Tom Brokaw admits he is starting to prep for bird flu
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Fuzzychick
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Good to see that those public figures in MSM are actually being honest in preparing, perhaps people might actually look at this as a red flag to prepare. I really feel that things are gonna get alot worse and hopefully some have actually listened....from the mouths of MSM media personalities.
okie medicvet
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Now lets hope enough people were smart enough to be paying attention.
Fuzzychick
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okie medicvet said:
I hear ya! BTW, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and the family.
Sorry for thread drift!
I think it is odd that Brokaw suggests having water as most folks think water is a given all the time.
I personally keep a supply of distilled water on hand to last about two weeks worth but I think most city folks just think the water will always flow. If I had more room I would store more and if something does hit have have containers to store more tap water instantly.
We have a lake a few feet from our door so can use that for flushing etc. but most folks don't have that.
After Bird Flu hits real good I don't think I would want to be drinking or bathing in the city water it is recycled so fast.
I personally keep a supply of distilled water on hand to last about two weeks worth but I think most city folks just think the water will always flow. If I had more room I would store more and if something does hit have have containers to store more tap water instantly.
We have a lake a few feet from our door so can use that for flushing etc. but most folks don't have that.
After Bird Flu hits real good I don't think I would want to be drinking or bathing in the city water it is recycled so fast.
Bubba Zanetti
Veteran Member
Shooting Star
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You can watch the interview on the Meet The Press web site - they start talking about the bird flu about 23 mins into the interview....
Safecastle
Emergency Essentials Store
The water issue IS critical ... all local governments have to be keeping the utility-continuity concern at or near the top of their community preparedness planning efforts.
The concern is that absenteeism will cause public utilities in some areas to fail--water, power, gas, etc.
In reality, at this point, most community planning efforts are not up to snuff. Therefore, if you're on the ball, you will not be counting on your municipal water system to continue to function normally. And perhaps your system will be out of commission for long periods of time. It's no big deal to be on the safe side in your own household ... as long as you have enough lead time to do something about it, as we do now.
The concern is that absenteeism will cause public utilities in some areas to fail--water, power, gas, etc.
In reality, at this point, most community planning efforts are not up to snuff. Therefore, if you're on the ball, you will not be counting on your municipal water system to continue to function normally. And perhaps your system will be out of commission for long periods of time. It's no big deal to be on the safe side in your own household ... as long as you have enough lead time to do something about it, as we do now.
PCViking
Lutefisk Survivor
Both Tom Brokaw and Ted Koppel made it quite clear that they believe we're 'hosed' when the avian flu hits. DW and I listened to the podcast and advise others interested to do so also... TB said his home was a sanctuary and TK said his would be too... They know this is serious and sounded concerned!
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Regardless of how one feels about either gent's political position, NEITHER of them has gotten to where they are today by being stupid.
And face it. With a few exceptions here, they have sources you or I would only DREAM of.....
And face it. With a few exceptions here, they have sources you or I would only DREAM of.....
Both men have my respect on this subject. That segment that Ted did a while back on his show was excellent. The tone of the entire piece was completely credible thanks to his moderation.
That's a question that only you can answer since you know what cooties are in there.
Did you mean distilled or filtered? I didn't think that we are supposed to drink distilled water as it's more for medicinal uses, ironing, etc. but I could be wrong.
Bubba Zanetti said:
That's a question that only you can answer since you know what cooties are in there.
Onebyone said:
Did you mean distilled or filtered? I didn't think that we are supposed to drink distilled water as it's more for medicinal uses, ironing, etc. but I could be wrong.
Actually, it's not really surprising to me that Tom Brokaw would be somewhat prepped. After all, he narrated the docudrama for the Yellowstone Super volcanic eruption. I would imagine after that experience, he would want a few preps around. With all of the realities around all of us, I would hope more MSM folks would get on the ball.
Sadly, this interview aired on Christmas morning...probably their lowest viewership of the year. I'd say it's a good start, though. It would be helpful if the general public came to see that it's not just us crazy redneck survivalists who prepare.
I always figured there was more behind big celebs like Brokaw, Letterman, Imus, & Ted Turner having those huge "ranches" out west.
I always figured there was more behind big celebs like Brokaw, Letterman, Imus, & Ted Turner having those huge "ranches" out west.
JackieD
Senior Member
I watched the piece on MTP Sunday morning. They are indeed concerned. I was hoping a statement from Tom Brokaw that he and his wife were prepping would be taken very seriously by those who are not prepared.
I just returned from visiting my elderly parents and sister and I brought up the fact the Brokaw was prepping for the bird flu. I figure if they won't listen to me, they might take note if Brokaw says it. They all like him.
J
I just returned from visiting my elderly parents and sister and I brought up the fact the Brokaw was prepping for the bird flu. I figure if they won't listen to me, they might take note if Brokaw says it. They all like him.
J
okie medicvet
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It is a good start. If worst comes to worst for me, I live close enough to a lake that I could get water and boil it. But getting a berkey is on my list..unfortunately, won't have enough for that until April or May..I have my preps as to what I can get figured out for the next year. So as not to have my family think I have flipped out or am too paranoid, my 'prep gathering' will have to be gradual, and cost is a major factor as well.
and happy holidays to you too, fuzzychick.
and happy holidays to you too, fuzzychick.
Fuzzychick
Membership Revoked
Yep, word is getting out.....
notred
Inactive
MR. KOPPEL: But, you see, doing what Tom and Meredith have done, and what my wife and I have not done, yet--will do, I promise--wouldn't at this stage cause any shortages...
MR. BROKAW: No.
MR. KOPPEL: ...it wouldn't cause any panic. I'm not suggesting that people go out and instantly buy a four-week supply of medicine...
MR. BROKAW: Right.
MR. KOPPEL: ...food, water. But if you start...
MR. BROKAW: You have to think about it. Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...over a period of the next three months...
MR. RUSSERT: And that's the hard truth, it's probably the only thing you can do.
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Just--it's the only thing that the individual can do...
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...so that at the very least, if the pandemic hits your community, you can stay at home, don't go out.
From this one get the impression are very concerned about panic. They are very concerned about shortages. And they seem to set a date...March.
MR. BROKAW: No.
MR. KOPPEL: ...it wouldn't cause any panic. I'm not suggesting that people go out and instantly buy a four-week supply of medicine...
MR. BROKAW: Right.
MR. KOPPEL: ...food, water. But if you start...
MR. BROKAW: You have to think about it. Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...over a period of the next three months...
MR. RUSSERT: And that's the hard truth, it's probably the only thing you can do.
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Just--it's the only thing that the individual can do...
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...so that at the very least, if the pandemic hits your community, you can stay at home, don't go out.
From this one get the impression are very concerned about panic. They are very concerned about shortages. And they seem to set a date...March.
Fuzzychick
Membership Revoked
Good observation Notred! Yep mentioned in several flu and SHTF threads...March will be a month to watch.
A.T.Hagan
Inactive
I have long believed that people like Brokaw, Koppel, and others in the Big Media along with many of the high and mighty in the corporate and government world are personally far better prepared than they'll ever admit to us mere mortals. As you said, they have sources we do not and also have a better idea of just how fragile the web we all depend on really is.night driver said:
It's Joe Sixpack (both the highly educated and the high school dropout) that goes through life thinking they'll never need to prep. At least until the rare individual has their "gets it" moment.
.....Alan.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
okie-
go to www.pwgazette.com and see how you can build either your own Berkey for around 100 bux plus your own 5 gal bucket(s) or 5 gal bucket and a cooler...
OR you can do a siphon system (he has the whole set up on thye site) that produces better than a berkey....
go to www.pwgazette.com and see how you can build either your own Berkey for around 100 bux plus your own 5 gal bucket(s) or 5 gal bucket and a cooler...
OR you can do a siphon system (he has the whole set up on thye site) that produces better than a berkey....
Bird Guano
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Fuzzychick said:Good observation Notred! Yep mentioned in several flu and SHTF threads...March will be a month to watch.
March is right after Lunar New Year in Asia.
After a HUGE amount of travel takes place.
okie medicvet
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thanks for the link!
JohnGaltfla
#NeverTrump
okie medicvet said:
Wish in one hand and let me know what you think the other one will fill up with first and fastest. The reality is that the conditioning program has worked and a full 85-90% of the sheeple now believe Uncle Screwup will bail them out.
Life to them is a 1800FEMANOW call away.
okie medicvet
Membership Revoked
John, I don't necessarily think that is true across the board..because there were some who saw what happened in NOLA with katrina and woke up a bit.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I followed the SurvivalBlog link but was unable to find the Brokaw article.
Where is it?
I'd like to read it too...
Where is it?
I'd like to read it too...
Here you go Barry, This was posted here at TBK in the last week.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Meet the Press yesterday had a very interesting discussion
on the avian flu and the possible pandemic and need for u.s.
citizens to PREP NOW for it.
here is a transcript......you can watch the entire program
online here!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/
note: there are other issues talked about as well. ie:
Katrina/etc.
QUOTE
MR. RUSSERT: Let me talk about an issue that is of grave
concern to people but we don't know much about it and that's
the avian flu, the potential for pandemic. We had Dr.
Michael Ryan of the World Health Organization on MEET THE
PRESS. Let's listen to him and come back and talk about how
to deal with this.
(Videotape, November 20, 2005):
DR. MICHAEL RYAN (World Health Organization): The avian flu
strain has the potential to become a pandemic strain. It is
very worrying that we see this virus transmitting across the
species barrier into humans and the virus itself is evolving
and we are probably closer to a pandemic at any time in the
last 37 years, since the last pandemic of '68. This virus
has crossed the species barrier. It has infected humans.
It's killing a high proportion of those human beings and we
need to prepare for the possibility of a pandemic.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: Ted Koppel, how do you cover a story like that
without alarming people and still do your job as a
journalist to prepare people?
MR. KOPPEL: You can't. You have to alarm people because
until people are sufficiently alarmed they're not going to
listen to what has to happen. You know, what you don't hear
in that sound bite, and what is rarely spoken of, especially
among the politicians, is that the kind of vaccine that
would be necessary to treat the avian flu does not exist.
It cannot exist until the strain of avian flu is developed
and can be sampled and can be tested and then, and only
then, can you begin to develop the vaccine. In order to
develop sufficient quantities of that vaccine, to vaccinate
people twice, you're going to need so many hundreds of
millions of doses that it will take a minimum of two to
three years to get them. In other words, by the time you
get them, it'll be too late to treat most of the people that
would get the flu.
Now, you know, obviously, that raises questions as to what
needs to be done, what can be done. I tried, just before I
left "Nightline" to do a broadcast in which we brought some
of the best experts on and said, "Tell us what we need to
know. Tell us what we need to do." Among the things we
need to do, and it sounds horrific, to say it, is to put in
a decent supply of food and water and whatever medicine is
needed by a family in each American home now, before it's
too late, so that if, and when, a flu hits an area, like,
let's say, our area here in Washington, the people,
especially older people, or people who have breathing
problems, lung problems, people who have heart problems, can
afford to stay home for two or three weeks, or longer.
MR. BROKAW: Have you done that at your house?
MR. KOPPEL: No, in truth. Have you?
MR. BROKAW: We have.
MR. KOPPEL: Have you?
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Good for you.
MR. BROKAW: Well, we did it for a couple of reasons.
Meredith--we live in New York and we have a house outside of
New York and Meredith said, "This is going to be our
sanctuary. We have to be prepared in case something
happens." And we did put in a small supply of food and water
and...
MR. KOPPEL: Yeah.
MR. BROKAW: ...other things to have on the ready. It's
also--the avian flu and the pandemic possibilities are a
real commentary on the world in which we're living now. The
mobility of people to move across places that--the crush of
population everywhere, how rapidly these things spread. And
I think that leads in this country to a kind of unsettled
feeling on the part of a lot of people. They have so much
access to information now. They don't feel that they have
their own sanctuary because it all happens at warp speed and
I think politicians are not doing a very good job in my
impression.
MR. KOPPEL: But, you see, doing what Tom and Meredith have
done, and what my wife and I have not done, yet--will do, I
promise--wouldn't at this stage cause any shortages...
MR. BROKAW: No.
MR. KOPPEL: ...it wouldn't cause any panic. I'm not
suggesting that people go out and instantly buy a four-week
supply of medicine...
MR. BROKAW: Right.
MR. KOPPEL: ...food, water. But if you start...
MR. BROKAW: You have to think about it. Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...over a period of the next three months...
MR. RUSSERT: And that's the hard truth, it's probably the
only thing you can do.
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Just--it's the only thing that the individual
can do...
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...so that at the very least, if the pandemic
hits your community, you can stay at home, don't go out.
MR. BROKAW: And having said that, I'm on my way to
Southeast Asia. My doctor said to me "Are you going to go
to the countryside?" And I said, "Some." And he said, "Oh,
God, you got to be really careful." So I thought...
[more]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10531436/
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Meet the Press yesterday had a very interesting discussion
on the avian flu and the possible pandemic and need for u.s.
citizens to PREP NOW for it.
here is a transcript......you can watch the entire program
online here!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/
note: there are other issues talked about as well. ie:
Katrina/etc.
QUOTE
MR. RUSSERT: Let me talk about an issue that is of grave
concern to people but we don't know much about it and that's
the avian flu, the potential for pandemic. We had Dr.
Michael Ryan of the World Health Organization on MEET THE
PRESS. Let's listen to him and come back and talk about how
to deal with this.
(Videotape, November 20, 2005):
DR. MICHAEL RYAN (World Health Organization): The avian flu
strain has the potential to become a pandemic strain. It is
very worrying that we see this virus transmitting across the
species barrier into humans and the virus itself is evolving
and we are probably closer to a pandemic at any time in the
last 37 years, since the last pandemic of '68. This virus
has crossed the species barrier. It has infected humans.
It's killing a high proportion of those human beings and we
need to prepare for the possibility of a pandemic.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: Ted Koppel, how do you cover a story like that
without alarming people and still do your job as a
journalist to prepare people?
MR. KOPPEL: You can't. You have to alarm people because
until people are sufficiently alarmed they're not going to
listen to what has to happen. You know, what you don't hear
in that sound bite, and what is rarely spoken of, especially
among the politicians, is that the kind of vaccine that
would be necessary to treat the avian flu does not exist.
It cannot exist until the strain of avian flu is developed
and can be sampled and can be tested and then, and only
then, can you begin to develop the vaccine. In order to
develop sufficient quantities of that vaccine, to vaccinate
people twice, you're going to need so many hundreds of
millions of doses that it will take a minimum of two to
three years to get them. In other words, by the time you
get them, it'll be too late to treat most of the people that
would get the flu.
Now, you know, obviously, that raises questions as to what
needs to be done, what can be done. I tried, just before I
left "Nightline" to do a broadcast in which we brought some
of the best experts on and said, "Tell us what we need to
know. Tell us what we need to do." Among the things we
need to do, and it sounds horrific, to say it, is to put in
a decent supply of food and water and whatever medicine is
needed by a family in each American home now, before it's
too late, so that if, and when, a flu hits an area, like,
let's say, our area here in Washington, the people,
especially older people, or people who have breathing
problems, lung problems, people who have heart problems, can
afford to stay home for two or three weeks, or longer.
MR. BROKAW: Have you done that at your house?
MR. KOPPEL: No, in truth. Have you?
MR. BROKAW: We have.
MR. KOPPEL: Have you?
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Good for you.
MR. BROKAW: Well, we did it for a couple of reasons.
Meredith--we live in New York and we have a house outside of
New York and Meredith said, "This is going to be our
sanctuary. We have to be prepared in case something
happens." And we did put in a small supply of food and water
and...
MR. KOPPEL: Yeah.
MR. BROKAW: ...other things to have on the ready. It's
also--the avian flu and the pandemic possibilities are a
real commentary on the world in which we're living now. The
mobility of people to move across places that--the crush of
population everywhere, how rapidly these things spread. And
I think that leads in this country to a kind of unsettled
feeling on the part of a lot of people. They have so much
access to information now. They don't feel that they have
their own sanctuary because it all happens at warp speed and
I think politicians are not doing a very good job in my
impression.
MR. KOPPEL: But, you see, doing what Tom and Meredith have
done, and what my wife and I have not done, yet--will do, I
promise--wouldn't at this stage cause any shortages...
MR. BROKAW: No.
MR. KOPPEL: ...it wouldn't cause any panic. I'm not
suggesting that people go out and instantly buy a four-week
supply of medicine...
MR. BROKAW: Right.
MR. KOPPEL: ...food, water. But if you start...
MR. BROKAW: You have to think about it. Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...over a period of the next three months...
MR. RUSSERT: And that's the hard truth, it's probably the
only thing you can do.
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: Just--it's the only thing that the individual
can do...
MR. BROKAW: Yeah.
MR. KOPPEL: ...so that at the very least, if the pandemic
hits your community, you can stay at home, don't go out.
MR. BROKAW: And having said that, I'm on my way to
Southeast Asia. My doctor said to me "Are you going to go
to the countryside?" And I said, "Some." And he said, "Oh,
God, you got to be really careful." So I thought...
[more]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10531436/
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I recall over a year ago, people on this board had discussed what was the standard amount of water needed per person per day. Then someone on this board went through a hurricaine, and was without water and power for at least 5 days. I remember them saying something like, "that allowance of water per person per day wasn't nearly enough!".
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thanks for the link.... I just read the interview....
I'd say "Holy $hit" except that I saw what happened before, during and after Katrina --- even within my own family.
A few people might listen to and heed their warning, but I think most of them probably were already leaning towards prepping.
I tell you what, it seems to me that if the social breakdown after Katrina was not enough to get folks to prep, then I don't know what can do it. But seems to me that an interview like this one -- while it might grab the attention of the typical TB2Ker -- is no where near the attention grabber that Katrina was. Or should have been.
Yeah, this interview might push a few folks off the fence and into their nearest grocery store. But I would think that the "reachable" folks got the message post-Katrina.
Just My Humble Opinion....
I'd say "Holy $hit" except that I saw what happened before, during and after Katrina --- even within my own family.
A few people might listen to and heed their warning, but I think most of them probably were already leaning towards prepping.
I tell you what, it seems to me that if the social breakdown after Katrina was not enough to get folks to prep, then I don't know what can do it. But seems to me that an interview like this one -- while it might grab the attention of the typical TB2Ker -- is no where near the attention grabber that Katrina was. Or should have been.
Yeah, this interview might push a few folks off the fence and into their nearest grocery store. But I would think that the "reachable" folks got the message post-Katrina.
Just My Humble Opinion....
spinnerholic
Inactive
I've been watching the prices of #10 cans of food at three sites for many months now. And I think a whole big bunch of people "got it" during and after Katrina. Anyone else noticed that since these companies went into overdrive to produce MRE's, and then back into production for the public there have been few if any sale specials on the food?
I called my favorite supplier and asked when the specails would start again only to be told that they are having a hard time keeping up with public demand now and anticipated sale specials only on gear and equipment, not food, from now on.
So I think a whole lot more people woke up very suddenly post Katrina than we know about yet.
I also think we'd best buy what we need as fast as we can because history shows that high demand pushes prices up.
I called my favorite supplier and asked when the specails would start again only to be told that they are having a hard time keeping up with public demand now and anticipated sale specials only on gear and equipment, not food, from now on.
So I think a whole lot more people woke up very suddenly post Katrina than we know about yet.
I also think we'd best buy what we need as fast as we can because history shows that high demand pushes prices up.