…… To those familar with graffiti

medic38572

TB Fanatic
This showed up on a known building in a small town not to far away. Never had such problems with it before in this town. Who ever did it had to climb up on the building to do it. It is placed in a way were it cannot be missed. To those who have had to studied graffiti over the years, is this some kids klingon star trek writing or does it have a meaning?

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desertvet2

Veteran Member
I saw that yesterday. Wife said there is a thing called the " (town where it happened)...mafia"

LOSER DOPE DEALING YOUTH I SUSPECT...


OR..... the new negroes???

The area in question has been getting a shit ton of "new seeds" planted. Don't know how some of them are affording the costs of life there....unless it is being provided by the imbedded liberals.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Should be allowed to pick those pigeons off the roof when you see em...shitting up the place.

The area that this happened is UPPER middle class and people tend to take very good care of their places.

It would seem that some of our new placements don't understand pride of ownership, or private property rights.

Gonna be fun when they get caught in the act...next time.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!

How To Recognize Gang Graffiti

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By Mary Smith. Updated: January 16, 2017

How To Recognize Gang Graffiti


Gang graffiti has the purpose to demonstrate the power or the status of a gang. It is used to define the territory of a gang and to determine the dissemination of the intentions of the gang. They warn strangers and people who are not from the gang, such as law force and other trespassers, that they are about to trespass a prohibited area. They can also notify customers of potential drug or sex sale, or it may simply be a tribute to the death of a gang member of the gang. Although gangs have their own symbols, they follow a set of rules with regard to how to display them and many stay the same for many years. This is why we'd like to show you how to recognize gang graffiti.

Steps to follow:

1. Take a look at the letters and its design. If you want to recognize gang graffiti, note that if the graffiti consists of symbols and has several colors of paint, it is most likely not related to a gang. They contain surprisingly angular letters, which are painted in one color and often combine satanic and/or religious images.

2. Look for numbers in a graffiti. Many gangs use a number code that match the alphabetic order of each of the letters.For example, numbers like 13 or 14, usually signify the presence of a Hispanic gang. Note that M is the 13th letter in the alphabet, and represents either Mexico or "La Eme," which is how the Mexican Mafia is commonly known. The number 14 would therefore represent the letter N, which is the 14th letter in the alphabet, and means "North" or "northern".

You should also know that that the three-digit numbers, 031 or 021, are usually used by members of the Bloods. Insane Gangster Disciples could also mark their territory by inscribing 9,7,4; i.e, I, G,D.
Numbers are also commonly used by Bloods and Crips, who use the number 187 in California, which is the number given to 1st degree murder.

3. Sometimes we can see a combination of numbers and letters. If you see two numbers after the letters N, S, E or W (north, south, east or west) this represents the territorial directions or guidance of the gang. Consider an "S" that follows N, S, E or W usually means "side".

How To Recognize Gang Graffiti - Step 3

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4. Rival gangs can cross out other gangs' graffiti. They will sometimes be followed by a "K", which means killing as a threat from a rival gang to the gang who did the original graffiti.

5. Some gangs use abbreviations in their graffiti such as the Latin Kings, the Latin Queens or the Gangster disciples, who will usually mark their territory with "LK, "LQ! or "GD" respectively.

There are letters that also have a common meaning when recognizing gang graffitti. For example, if you see an "A" at the beginning of the letters, these mean "Almighty" and an "N" as the last letter of the gang symbols means "nation." A and N are everywhere and are used by many gangs regardless of their status and power. What the letter C refers to along with "VL" is a remark to a subsidiary, or local sub-group of the biggest gang.

6. Gangs can also use pictures and symbols to identify themselves. The five pointed crown is also a symbol commonly used for Latin Kings graffiti. On the other hand, Crips usually use a star of David, or six pointed star. It's important to tell them apart from Bloods, as these used a five pointed star.

How To Recognize Gang Graffiti - Step 6
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Knock on wood, we haven't had an problems with tagging in my immediate area. When I lived in Columbus, the Little Darlings used to come through in the spring and tag the backs of buildings in the alley. They were mostly 13- and 14-year-olds. We caught them using several cheap game cams.

The police and city told us to paint over the tags ASAP to prevent more of them from appearing. We told the city to step up patrols. Eventually, the store owners hung up signs saying cameras were in use, even when they weren't. That seemed to stop the problem.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
When OC and I were first married some misdirected youth decide to tag the back of one of our garages and the neighbors garage in the alley. Next day I procured a rooster, gutted it out, and hung it upside down on my garage where it had been tagged. It never happened again. We repainted the garage shortly there after and no issues since.
 

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
Should be allowed to pick those pigeons off the roof when you see em...shitting up the place.

The area that this happened is UPPER middle class and people tend to take very good care of their places.

It would seem that some of our new placements don't understand pride of ownership, or private property rights.

Gonna be fun when they get caught in the act...next time.
Yes. When they get caught in the back with a .308 from 300 yds.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
When OC and I were first married some misdirected youth decide to tag the back of one of our garages and the neighbors garage in the alley. Next day I procured a rooster, gutted it out, and hung it upside down on my garage where it had been tagged. It never happened again. We repainted the garage shortly there after and no issues since.
Is that a Santeria symbology?
Just curious
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Is that a Santeria symbology?
Just curious

Yes, but it's also a sign to certain hispanic types that they're next. I don't know if the misdirected youth was hispanic or from the islands either way it worked. As soon as it happened I asked a friend who is very familiar with cult like groups, gangs are a cult, and she told me to put the roo up as a warning and it worked.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Yes, but it's also a sign to certain hispanic types that they're next. I don't know if the misdirected youth was hispanic or from the islands either way it worked. As soon as it happened I asked a friend who is very familiar with cult like groups, gangs are a cult, and she told me to put the roo up as a warning and it worked.
I'm looking up 'Live Roosters near me' as I read this
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
You have TWO different gang alphabets in use. I've seen a LOT of the fluffy stuff here in CLE. Haven't seen ANY of the stuff on the right in the pic.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Well...that stuff on the right, to me, looks more like some kind of ancient writing than graffiti...

Witches cursing the place?

makes one wonder, I had something similar to that stuff on the right, drew it out, scanned it into my computer (pre-digital camera days) and emailed it to my friend who specializes in cults. That's when I was told to get the rooster and what to do. At the time we had a bunch of haitian refugees here in town, that have since moved to other places more suitable to their liking.
 

9idrr

Veteran Member
Knock on wood, we haven't had an problems with tagging in my immediate area. When I lived in Columbus, the Little Darlings used to come through in the spring and tag the backs of buildings in the alley. They were mostly 13- and 14-year-olds. We caught them using several cheap game cams.

The police and city told us to paint over the tags ASAP to prevent more of them from appearing. We told the city to step up patrols. Eventually, the store owners hung up signs saying cameras were in use, even when they weren't. That seemed to stop the problem.
The idea of lettin' 'em control the narrative bugs the hell out of me. News(?) people wanted to sound hip so they started to give credence to the term "tagging" that the perps used. It's vandalism, pure and simple. Urban street artists? Give me a flippin' break.
 

Marie

Veteran Member
It actually looks more like cult graffiti than gang graffiti. The tiny tags on top of the bubble letters may be gang but I can't make them out. The bubble letters aren't usually anything but "budding artists" what's your general AO and I can check some sources and get back to you.
 

samus79

Veteran Member
I used to know some taggers back when I was in high school, the bubble letters on the left don’t look like gang graffiti to me, the squiggly lines above the “SATE” bubble letters is their signature.

Interesting thing though, above the bubble letters is also a symbol that looks like a 2 combined with a 4 which I believe is the astrological symbol for the planet Jupiter. Also the left most symbol on the strange writing is an Egyptian Ankh. I couldn’t tell you what the rest of it is though. It does appear to be a Star Trek logo in there too.

The stuff on the right is definitely weird, looks like a code of some sort you’d have to have a key to decipher and the two occult/astrological symbols are interesting as well. My guess is it’s probably some kids messing around, doesn’t really look like gang graffiti to me. I’d keep an eye out because there will probably be more of it popping up around town until they catch the perps.
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
That is not gang graffiti. It’s from a tagging crew. Usually pot heads who are shit heads interested in destroying property. It gives them more creds if it is higher and harder to get to. I have a call into one of my old gang unit guys on the klingon stuff. Have not seen that before. If you start seeing large X’s through the tagging, then you have a turf war which can get violent.

The scribbles above the T is the turds signature that did it.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
makes one wonder, I had something similar to that stuff on the right, drew it out, scanned it into my computer (pre-digital camera days) and emailed it to my friend who specializes in cults. That's when I was told to get the rooster and what to do. At the time we had a bunch of haitian refugees here in town, that have since moved to other places more suitable to their liking.
Interesting.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
My opinion, having seen and understood gang graffiti over the years, that is not gang related.

For someone to climb up the building and spray something like that, it's an attention getter. This is someone's personal tag and he/she is doing it for "clout".

The stuff on the right is not gang related. I've never seen anything like it. Almost looks like stylized Latin or Hebrew? If you ever figure it out Medic, I'd be interested in the story.

Can you get more pics? It looks like some of it was cut off.
 
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FireDance

TB Fanatic
It reminds me of the runes in Tolkien’s works. Not exactly the same, but close. I had a friend who (along with me) practiced writing this way. I lost interest, but she was a “master”.

Not saying it’s related, just that is what it reminds me of.
 

samus79

Veteran Member
It reminds me of the runes in Tolkien’s works. Not exactly the same, but close. I had a friend who (along with me) practiced writing this way. I lost interest, but she was a “master”.

Not saying it’s related, just that is what it reminds me of.

It’s definitely not normal graffiti and combined with the occult symbols it’s kind of piqued my interest, hopefully we get some follow up on this one.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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ALL THREADS ASKING FOR HELP NEED TO USE THE ‘HELP’ PREFIX.

Changed.

Please stop being lazy. I’ve posted this on another of your “help me” threads recently.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
makes one wonder, I had something similar to that stuff on the right, drew it out, scanned it into my computer (pre-digital camera days) and emailed it to my friend who specializes in cults. That's when I was told to get the rooster and what to do. At the time we had a bunch of haitian refugees here in town, that have since moved to other places more suitable to their liking.

Adding what you posted to what I was thinking...makes me believe that the graffiti was put up sometime between midnight and 3:00 Am. That 'island witchery' actually starts at midnight and, basically, ends around 3:00 Am.
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
Here is what I just got back form an old partner. Redacted and clarified a few things. Krews are what tagger crews call themselves.



Ok. Here is what you are looking at brother. The bubble letters are Zate TNC. Zate is the local krew. Tnc is a larger worldwide krew. They post their art all over social media to gain notoriety and have grown substantially as a result. The other photo you sent is interesting. I would like to meet these guys. Every krew has a alphabet that they use. Most artists have their own alphabet as well. This is not tncs standard alphabet. You would be able to read it. This alphabet is cryptic and directed at a small audience. This is common with our clients (gangs). Not for tnc and other krews. Tnc will call out and disgrace anyone using their tag if gang affiliated. If you can get another shot of the rest of the script and a close up of the signature I can run it through...
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Adding what you posted to what I was thinking...makes me believe that the graffiti was put up sometime between midnight and 3:00 Am. That 'island witchery' actually starts at midnight and, basically, ends around 3:00 Am.

Meant to also say, "3:00 AM is when all 'stuff' stops because the demon is supposed to appear then". And, one way or another, it usually does appear...for them.

Yeah, I've researched this stuff. Old Army lesson well learned, "Know thy enemy"...
 
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