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ANOTHER situation that I would happily arrange the travel accommodations. To Hell.
ALERT TN Amber alert - Day 6 of search for missing 5yo girl from Hawkins County
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desertvet2
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Exactly what I am feeling....just from reading what is here.
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Summer Wells isn’t first family member to disappear
Rose Marie Bly, aunt of Summer Wells, went missing in 2009 and was never found.
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Summer Wells isn’t first family member to disappear
Summer Wells, the young girl at the center of a Tennessee AMBER Alert, is not the first member of that family to disappear. Her aunt, Rose Marie Bly, disappeared in 2009.
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Rose Marie Bly still missing(WVLT)
By Camruinn Morgan-Rumsey
Published: Jun. 22, 2021 at 4:10 PM EDT|Updated: 2 hours ago
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT) - Summer Wells, the 5-year-old at the center of an East Tennessee AMBER Alert, is not the first member of her family to go missing.
Rose Marie Bly, the aunt of Summer Wells, has been the subject of a missing person cold case since 2009, a report from the Charlie Project confirms. Rose Marie Bly is the sister of Candus Bly, Summer Wells’ mother.
The Charlie Project is a database that has cataloged over 14,000 missing person cases mainly from the United States. The project focuses on cases that were never solved.
Rose Marie Bly was last seen in St. Croix Falls, Wisconsin on August 21, 2009, according to the report. She left her home that night to meet a cousin at a bar about five miles away. Rose Marie Bly told her husband that she would be back before midnight, but she never made it to her destination, the report says.
Officials found Rose Marie Bly’s vehicle five days later in a parking lot used by truckers to park their tractor-trailers, a release from the FBI confirms. The parking lot is located around 30 miles from Rose Marie Bly’s residence, according to the release.
The Charlie Project mentions that the lot where the vehicle was found is normally used by semi-truck drivers to park tractor-trailers and that there was no sign of foul play. Rose Marie Bly left home with little money and no credit or debit cards, according to the report.
Rose Marie Bly and her husband reportedly had a troubled relationship and three weeks after her disappearance, he filed for divorce and sought a court order to prevent her from returning and taking their two children, the report said.
Prior to her disappearance, police had made at least one house call to address a domestic dispute. During the visit, her husband accused her of slapping him, and she accused him of putting her in a headlock and banging her head on the ground, according to the Charlie Project.
Rose Marie Bly’s husband passed a polygraph test after her disappearance and is not considered a suspect in the incident, the Charlie Project’s report says. His divorce and custody petition was granted and he has sole custody of their children, the report stated.
Her mother speculated that she became disoriented and wandered away from her vehicle due to an injury she had sustained a week before the incident, but there is no evidence to support this theory, the report says.
Rose Marie Bly was never found and the case remains unsolved.
In which case he can never spend the cash cause that would alert investigators.
Gambling or drug problem? He might have owed somebody. Doubt it would have been all that much money anyway - kids are everywhere.
That, too, will come out at some point. You can just bet that investigators are looking hard at dad.
Tennessee Cops Say Summer Wells Missing-Child Case Is ‘Outside the Norm’
Tennessee Bureau of InvestigationTennessee police said Thursday that they are “frustrated” by the lack of clarity in the disappearance of 5-year-old Summer Wells—who was last seen planting flowers in her garden before she vanished.“While every case is different, this one is definitely outside of...
Tennessee Cops Say Summer Wells Missing-Child Case Is ‘Outside the Norm’
Tracy Connor
Thu, June 24, 2021, 10:26 PM·3 min read
Tennessee Bureau of Investigation
Tennessee police said Thursday that they are “frustrated” by the lack of clarity in the disappearance of 5-year-old Summer Wells—who was planting flowers in her garden and then just vanished.
“While every case is different, this one is definitely outside of the norm,” Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokesperson Leslie Earhart said at a briefing on the progress, or lack of it, in the case.
“Typically in an investigation like this one, we have some idea of where the case is headed and what might have happened within a few days. In this situation, despite doing everything within our power and exploring all avenues, the circumstances leading to Summer’s disappearance remain unclear.”
Authorities say Summer’s family has been cooperating. Her mother, Candus Bly, took and passed a polygraph, according to her husband, Donald Wells. Meanwhile, his criminal record, which includes a 2020 arrest for domestic assault, has come under scrutiny.
“We’ve worked it out, she’s apologized to me,” Wells, who pleaded guilty to gun possession under the influence in connection with the incident, said of Bly.
“She’s went to the district attorneys, she even went to judge and told them she made a serious mistake and that’s the end of it.”
Summer was last seen June 15 at her home in Rogersville.
“She was planting flowers with her mother and her grandmother and she wanted to go into the house, so my wife watched her go into the door and she went into the house,” her father told WJHL.
Wells said, “And the boys were on the internet of course, and she wanted to go downstairs and play with her toys. So when her mother [came] in and she says, ‘Summer’ and she went down into the basement and she didn’t answer. So she went down there and she was gone.”
“Some bad person grabbed her, but we have no idea,” said Wells. “The FBI and the police have covered every single place, everything that anybody can think of, they’ve covered.”
Search crews have inspected 4.6 square miles, using aerial and ground crews; they have scoured waterways and have spoken to anyone in the area the day of the disappearance. More than 300 tips have come in and none have yielded significant information.
Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Capt. Tim Coup said his search crews are drained from the painstaking work.
“I’ve had most of my guys come up to me and tell me: ‘Captain, I’ll go to the end. But I’m tired. I am physically and I am mentally tired,’” Coup said, adding: “We will not quit until we find Summer Wells.”
Asked if police think it’s possible Summer is still alive, Earhart said, “We typically would have found a child at this stage in the investigation, so honestly, we just don’t know.”
She added, “I understand the lack of answers frustrates you and the public, but trust me, no one is more frustrated than we are.”
Knoxville's Joker
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This was most likely a child killed by the family member, or the child was sold off into the human sex trafficking trade.
goosebeans
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David Paulides has an interesting video up about little Summer Wells, her missing aunt and other missing kids in TN. run time abt 35 mins. He's standing by a loud creek so you kind of have to listen hard.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncrnKCYdSGU
Knoxville's Joker
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For some reason there are families that harbor monsters.
What happened to Summer Wells? Hunt for missing five year old who parents claim vanished
Investigators have been inundated with tips, many of which they consider rumours and non-credible information
What happened to Summer Wells? Hunt for missing five year old who parents claim vanished
Graig Graziosi
Fri, July 2, 2021, 9:42 AM·5 min read
Summer Wells, a 5-year-old who has been missing since late June, disappeared from her home in Hawkins County, Tennessee. (Tennessee Bureau of Investigation)
Summer Wells, a 5-year-old who has been missing since late June, disappeared from her home in Hawkins County, Tennessee. (Tennessee Bureau of Investigation)
Nearly two weeks have passed since the mysterious disappearance of Summer Wells, a 5 year old from Hawkins County, Tennessee. Investigators have been searching for the girl, but rumours, an apparent lack of suspects, and zealous tipsters have complicated the rescue effort.
Summer's mother, Candus Bly, appeared on WJHL, a local broadcaster, to discuss her daughter's disappearance.
Ms Bly told reporters that she, her mother, her daughter Summer and her sons were planting flowers on the day the little girl disappeared.
“I walked [Summer] all the way over to the porch, and I watched her walking into the kitchen where the boys were watching TV. I told the boys, I said ‘watch Summer, I'll be back’ and within two minutes I came back. And I asked the boys where their sister was, and they said ‘she went downstairs, Mom, to play with her toys in the playroom,’” she said.
Ms Bly said she called for her daughter, who did not answer. After the little girl did not answer, she claims she went into the basement to look for her little girl, but found she was not there.
“I feel in my heart that somebody has came up here and took her ... has lured her away from here,” Ms Bly said.
She made a direct plea to the alleged kidnappers.
“Whoever has my daughter, I pray they haven't harmed her and they bring her back to us safe and sound,” she said.
It is unclear why Ms Bly believes someone lured her out of the house, as she has thus far presented no evidence to suggest anyone else was at or outside her home at the time her daughter disappeared.
“I'm just scared that somebody's hurting her and there's nothing I can do about it. And it – it smothers me,” she said.
Don Wells, the girl's father, shares Ms Bly's belief that a kidnapper snatched his daughter.
On Monday, he said he believed that a kidnapper came down a nearby hill by their home, threw her into a car, and drove away. As with Ms Bly's theory, Mr Wells presented no evidence to back up that claim.
Though Ms Bly apparently did not see anyone, there are plenty of people who claim they know something about the little girl's disappearance; more than 650 tips have been received by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation regarding the girl's disappearance. Many of these appear to be dead ends or idle speculation, however, as the investigatory agency has asked that people only submit credible information to the tips lines to help authorities avoid wasting time sifting through rumours.
“Sharing speculation or rumours only makes the process more difficult for law enforcement by increasing the number of non-credible tips,” the agency said in a tweet.
Investigators said they have been “frustrated” by both the lack of credible suspects and the “rugged, mountainous terrain” where the alleged abduction took place.
Mr Wells and Ms Bly both addressed rumours circulating on social media that there was a red truck present at the time of the girl's abduction.
“There's always going to be haters, you know, and they are always going to be that way in this world,” he said. “We'll just want to focus on the good friends and Christian people that are trying to help us and praying for us and praying for Summer.”
He said they didn't know anything “about ... no red truck”, a reference to a vehicle that witnesses said they saw in the area around the time that Summer is believed to have been abducted. Police have insisted that the driver is not a suspect, but is being sought as a possible witness to whatever happened to the little girl.
Ms Bly also addressed the truck, but said she did not know anyone who drove a red Toyota pickup.
“It's really strange that I've never seen this truck,” she said. “And I've never heard of it until just recently, but I wish they would come forward and explain themselves. If you're not a suspect, at least come forward and say what you've seen.”
TBI has asked for the public's help in locating the child. The agency does not appear to be treating the parents as suspects at this time.
Both Mr Wells and Ms Bly have criminal history outside of Tennessee.
Mr Wells was convicted of multiple violent felonies and has served time in prison for his convictions that include drug charges, burglaries and parole violations in Arkansas, Utah and Texas. Mr Wells was arrested last October after Ms Bly accused him of domestic assault. Deputies found him drunk in his vehicle attempting to drive up his own driveway when he was arrested.
She dropped those charges less than a week later.
Ms Bly has a record in the state of Wisconsin, most recently a guilty plea on misdemeanour domestic abuse charges from 2003.
Evidence of a criminal record is not sufficient evidence to suggest any sort of guilt or complicity on the part of Summer's parents, however.
This is not Ms Bly's first time dealing with the mysterious disappearance of a loved one; in 2009, her sister, Rose Marie Bly, disappeared from her home in St. Croix Falls, Wisconsin.
“I don’t know all of what happened or what did happen, but I hope that they find [Rose Mary Bly], too,” Ms Bly said. “It makes no sense at all, how can people just vanish and not be heard from or seen without a trace? It’s very devastating.”
Rescue efforts in the area are being scaled back, though Church Hill Rescue Squad, which is coordinating the search, said that the reduction was not an indication that they were giving up the search.
“Just because we may not be seen as such a large presence in and throughout the area, rest assured that we have not quit and won’t quit until we find Summer Wells,” the group said in a statement.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
The police are letting that couple dig their own grave.
One or both of them did it, and they are typically "oh, so helpful"...... That poor kid.
I'm surprised the police haven't taken them them to the station yet.
One or both of them did it, and they are typically "oh, so helpful"...... That poor kid.
I'm surprised the police haven't taken them them to the station yet.
Yeah... I pray they get an airtight case, because those two killed that girl (or one did and the other is backing them, knows all about it). Even assuming (right or wrong, no idea- I'm going solely by printed interviews, and haven't even seen pics) poor, undereducated and heavily influenced by TeeVee... NONE of their reactions are normal. This mother, who is SO careful she watched her 5 year old daughter walk all the way INTO the kitchen, and also specifically told older siblings to watch her (who does that? Is this high crime inner city?), almost instantly goes to the "stranger abduction" theory. BULL!
Careful parents *can't believe* the kid is gone.
And both parents certain she was abducted? Sounds like it was a frequently discussed subject in their home. Just sayin'...
And I will sincerely apologize to them if this turns out to be a true tragedy not involving the family. Because that *does* happen, and the resulting suspicion the family endures is just lye in a gaping wound.
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goosebeans
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Watched the interview with the parents last night and became absorbed in the comments. There was talk of a video taken just before she went missing,. They'd ( mom, summer and some 15 y/o boy )been to a swimming hole and Summer had gone underwater for over a minute. Mom and boy were drinking, Then the little girl was shown "asleep" on the back seat of the vehicle on the way home. I think the mom posted this on Tic Tock or something. I'm not familiar with much social media so haven't seen it. But all in all, I'm afraid it's not looking good for little Summer 
And there we have the story.Watched the interview with the parents last night and became absorbed in the comments. There was talk of a video taken just before she went missing,. They'd ( mom, summer and some 15 y/o boy )been to a swimming hole and Summer had gone underwater for over a minute. Mom and boy were drinking, Then the little girl was shown "asleep" on the back seat of the vehicle on the way home. I think the mom posted this on Tic Tock or something. I'm not familiar with much social media so haven't seen it. But all in all, I'm afraid it's not looking good for little Summer
bw
Fringe Ranger
Ahh, that connects the dots very neatly.
Watched the interview with the parents last night and became absorbed in the comments. There was talk of a video taken just before she went missing,. They'd ( mom, summer and some 15 y/o boy )been to a swimming hole and Summer had gone underwater for over a minute. Mom and boy were drinking, Then the little girl was shown "asleep" on the back seat of the vehicle on the way home. I think the mom posted this on Tic Tock or something. I'm not familiar with much social media so haven't seen it. But all in all, I'm afraid it's not looking good for little Summer
I've been following this because we are moving to TN soon and have been traveling in that area. I've seen that photo as well as the video and what makes me very uncomfortable is that she is sleeping leaning up against milk jugs. It looked really awkward. Now kids do sleep on the weirdest things, so there's that. But that photo just doesn't sit well with me. It's weird that she's sleeping on COLD milk jugs. But, she does have color in her face and lips. She doesn't look pale or odd in that way, IMO. This whole thing is so heartbreaking. It really seems like the parents have a hand in it, but I hate to judge anyone when I really don't have any evidence.
Also, someone asked if she lived in the inner city. She lives up in the Appalachians and it seems like it's out of the way to even get to their driveway so to think some random person just snatched her up seems off.
I'm following a Nick Beres from News Channel 5 and this is his latest update on Facebook:
***WHERE IS SUMMER WELLS?
No updates are expected today from the TBI, FBI or Hawkins County Sheriff.
But that does not mean I won’t post about that missing five-year-old.
So, here I am … wanting to make sure NO ONE FORGETS.
It’s been nearly three weeks now since the little girl vanished from her Rogersville home.
The search effort continues.
My sources tell me it now seems highly-unlikely Summer just wandered off into the woods alone and got lost.
Had she, by now K-9s would have hit on something.
The general consensus at this time is that she is the victim of foul play.
Either an abduction or someone close to her — a friend, family member, a neighbor — harmed her.
But the TBI has named NO suspects.
MY BELIEF IS SOMEONE OUT THERE KNOWS SOMETHING.
Perhaps more than one person was involved … and maybe … just maybe someone is feeling regret … feeling the guilt … and perhaps will do the right thing.
It could happen.
But, who am I kidding?
Anyone who would harm a child is a monster and a coward.
AT THIS POINT, all possibilities are on the table.
But after more than 750 tips … nothing.
And any trail — if there was one — is getting colder by the day.
Remember, there is more than $50,000 in reward money.
INVESTIGATORS NEED A GOOD LEAD.
Call 1-800-TBI-FIND.
bw
Fringe Ranger
I haven't seen the picture, but I wonder why it was taken. Random shot? Are there other seemingly random shots from the day? Or was someone making sure that a lifelike picture of the girl would be available later?
The video is only a few seconds long and the mother claims it's the grandmother's voice, but it sounds like a teenage boy, honestly. It says something about them wanting to get her arm a certain way, but it wasn't like that anymore. They didn't mean for it to be a video, they were just trying to take a photo. Now I've taken cute pictures of my kids because they looked this way or that, so it could be that, but too many things just seem off. There's also a lot of conflicting stories between the mom and dad of where the grandmother was during all this. She may have even been swimming with them. It's really hard to know what the real story is.
I was the one who threw out the "what is this, the inner city?" question, but it was rhetorical... commenting on the supposed "extreme care" mom took when Summer ran across their backyard to the house. Parents in the boonies just don't watch their kids THAT close... the back yard is an extension of the living room, and no one watches every step the kids take from the couch to the TV. (True wilderness where cougar and large game roam an exception)
It's all such an obvious narrative... they are all saying what they think "sounds good" for them, but it's all awkward and creepy.
Poor Summer...
Summerthyme
It's all such an obvious narrative... they are all saying what they think "sounds good" for them, but it's all awkward and creepy.
Poor Summer...
Summerthyme
inskanoot
Veteran Member
Sloan Bella weighed in on this. She mentioned some trauma in the family, but she thinks that three non-family members abducted Summer. Sloan won’t say whether Summer is still alive.
View: https://youtu.be/P_T8hXlme84
No, it's her. They shaved her head, which is also kind of weird. I read it was because of lice, which makes sense, but in the interview the parents did they contradicted each other as to why her head was shaved and neither said because of lice.
goosebeans
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Thanks so much for posting and confirming what I'd read in those comments, DustyOpal! I didn't want to spread false info, but a number of people mentioned the video so I figured it must exist somewhere.
To me, it looks like they may have placed the milk jugs to prop her up. She's also clean, dry and dressed. Not like she she'd just been pulled out of the water. Wonder why mom was asking if she still had her arm up?
Also, people were commenting that the way the parents keep speculating that she was snatched and taken off "far, far away" is reason to think that she's really close by, on the property somewhere. But I'm wondering if they actually took her off, far away, themselves, and that's why the dogs are not picking up a trail. Maybe they never took her out of the car and just got her out as far as they could. Lord, poor, beautiful, little thing.
OTOH, I wouldn't completely rule out someone casing the place and snatching her. That area, where they live, looks very much like here. Even though I've heard locals say "I'd be scared to death to go down your road!" ( I think mostly because it's narrow and they're afraid to meet something coming the other way. A rock face on one side and a thirty foot drop into a boulder strewn creek on the other) ) before we fenced and put a gate at the end of our driveway and as far out and secluded as we are, we had a number of strange people show up at the door. A car full of guys, dressed in camo! One came to the porch asking "s'okay if we go hunt ginseng up there?" nodding to the back of our hollow. I just looked him in the eye and said "NO!" he hesitated and asked "no?" He sidled back to the car, told the others, "she said no" and they backed all the way out. A guy with a briefcase wanting to "come in, sit down and discuss the state of education in this country" I told him, "Turn around, get back in your car and leave. Now! He did. I called the sheriff's dept. to give them a heads up on him. So, yes, there are people who have no qualms about heading into creepy secluded back country.
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AlfaMan
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I hate to say it, but that poor little girl in the video already looks dead. They had been swimming, yet she looks completely pale (as if she had lost a lot of blood?) We don't have kids; but why would a young kid crawl up against milk jugs to sleep? She's not in a booster seat either. Propping her up in a seat like that makes it appear she's alive, but sadly I don't think she is.
I think the mom was on the way to dumping the kid's body when that video was taken. And there are lots of old homesteads with wells around them. Dumping a body in a well ensures search dogs will never get her scent.
Why the hell would someone kill the most precious gift God could ever give a human being? It boggles the mind.
Paulides said that the house is on a dead end street, so basically no crime. Criminals avoid that for obvious reasons. However, he also filmed his comments in what I took to be the general area of TN (I could be confused on this), and said the place was full of bears, and his head would be on a swivel for the duration of the video. As the place has a missing persons cluster (that includes the aunt), I can imagine that between bears, and THAT (and Squatch too - but that is me and woo), I'd be esp. watchful of any small kids. It not a sheep pasture in the mid-West.
I am not defending the parents. I am not saying she was abducted by something supernatural, but Paulides has decades of expertise in these situations, and while he does not give an opinion on this case, I AM interested that he has made a video looking into it. It must have checked a few boxes, to have piqued his interest.
It's possible. She IS very pale in that pic, but still pink... looks alive. And tired kids will crash *anywhere*... I've got pics of ours face down in the garden, and the two older boys at 4 and 5, sacked out on a trailer full of ear corn!
But IF that is supposedly a video of them heading home from swimming, she's weirdly dry and dressed awfully warm...
Summerthyme
Unfortunately, we as a society no longer value children... part of the push away from Christianity, the nuclear family, and valuing life at all. Without support from local family, even the best parents can be overwhelmed, stressed, and snap. But in some of these dysfunctional messes, the poor kids never stand a chance.
Summerthyme
goosebeans
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Faroe, he was filming on a river in MT. It was a bit confusing. From what I understand, the mother's sister went missing in Wisconsin. Pretty sure there are black bear where the little girls lives. We have plenty of them here in south west Virginia, and no matter what the game warden will tell you, they DO have a taste for red meat! I think the dogs would have found her though if a bear did it.