ALERT There’s a coup going on RIGHT NOW in Africa. Where is the story on TB?

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In a digital world, voices hushed and still,
An online forum stood, watching, waiting,
For words to grace its space, a screen to fill,
A tale of Sudan's coup, hearts debating.

In shadows, whispers of a coup arose,
A nation gripped by change, a struggle strained,
Yet silence echoed in that forum's prose,
No words of Sudan's plight, no thoughts explained.

The owner, saddened by this quiet truth,
Longed for engagement, empathy to share,
To bridge the gap between the old and youth,
To spark a fire, for minds to be aware.

But hope was not extinguished, it remained,
For words have power, and hearts can be regained.

Arise, oh writers, poets, speakers bold,
Express the stories that are left untold,
For in your hands the fates of nations mold,
A single word can make a spirit whole.

Sudan's upheaval, sung in verse and rhyme,
May stir the souls of those who've turned away,
And in the forum's threads, they'll find the time,
To speak of change and strife, and have their say.

For as the sun sets over desert land,
And darkness shrouds the tales we long to know,
The power of words will break the silent band,
And let the stories of Sudan's coup flow.
 
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Griz3752

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The only ything in Sudan which could concern me is if the various actor groups are closely affiliated w/ Sudanese immigrants on this continent. If that's the case, there could be a related dust up here.

THEN, I'll be on the roof, waiting for them to get stupid on my block. . . .

So far it looks like the Gov't goons are fighting the military goons so, Sudanese gang warfare.
 
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Sudan news LIVE updates: Deadly fighting between army, paramilitaries kills 27

Gun shots and tank canons could be heard ringing out in the city after talks between Sudan’s army and civilian politicians to discuss a potential power-sharing plan broke down.
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Sudan news LIVE updates: Deadly fighting between army, paramilitaries kills 27​

7 min read . Updated: 16 Apr 2023, 07:16 AM ISTAnwesha Mitra

Gun shots and tank canons could be heard ringing out in the city after talks between Sudan’s army and civilian politicians to discuss a potential power-sharing plan broke down.


Fighting broke out between the Sudanese army and the country’s main paramilitary group on Saturday. Several gunshots and explosions rang out in various parts of Khartoum on Saturday morning as clashes were reported between rival factions of the armed forces.

Paramilitary forces claim to have taken control of the international airport in Khartoum as well as a second airport in Meroe. The paramilitary RSF also claimed to have taken over the Presidential Palace and Army Chief General Burhan's residence.

Many videos appeared on social media showing armed fighters driving across the runway of the city's international airport, conducting checkpoints at crucial traffic intersections, and moving through residential areas. At the same time, heavy gunfire was audible in the background.

Here are the latest updates:
16 Apr 2023, 07:16:46 AM IST

UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed discuss developments in Sudan with EU's Borrell​

Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation and Josep Borrell, the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, today discussed developments in the Republic of Sudan
16 Apr 2023, 06:34:31 AM IST

Deadly fighting between army, paramilitaries in Sudan kills 27​

Fighting in the Sudanese capital raged into the early hours of Sunday after a day of deadly battles between paramilitaries and the regular army that left at least 27 people dead and 170 wounded.
Explosions and gunfire rang out on the deserted streets of Khartoum, according to witnesses, after the paramilitaries said they were in control of the presidential place, Khartoum airport and other vital facilities.

15 Apr 2023, 10:34:47 PM IST

UK foreign minister calls for restraint​

“The ongoing violence across Sudan must stop immediately. The UK calls on the Sudanese leadership to do all they can to restrain their troops and deescalate to prevent further bloodshed. Military action will not resolve this situation," British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said on Twitter.
15 Apr 2023, 09:23:50 PM IST

Paramilitary forces share unverified video, claim Egyptian troops ‘surrendered’ in northern Sudan​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647238085090979840
View: https://twitter.com/Sudan_tweet/status/1647238085090979840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1647238085090979840%7Ctwgr%5Efc7782998f99b767ba6fd47e1ddddd7ed62c59b3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.livemint.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fsudan-clash-live-planes-on-fire-gunshots-tank-canons-ring-out-across-capital-11681557685898.html


15 Apr 2023, 09:14:40 PM IST

Chad closes border with Sudan​

"Chad appeals to the regional and international community as well as to all friendly countries to prioritise a return to peace," it said in a statement.
Its 1,403 km (872 mile) border with Sudan will remain closed until further notice.
15 Apr 2023, 08:58:14 PM IST

Saudi plane hit by gunfire amid unrest​

A passenger plane preparing to take off from Sudan for Saudi Arabia came under fire on Saturday. The Airbus A330 "was exposed to gunfire damage... with guests and crew on board" ahead of its scheduled departure to Riyadh.

"It has been confirmed that all members of the aircraft's cabin crew have safely arrived at the Saudi Embassy in Sudan," the kingdom's flag carrier said.

“Meanwhile aircraft flying over Sudan have returned and all other flights to and from Sudan have been suspended in order to preserve the safety of the guests and crew," Saudia added said in its statement.

15 Apr 2023, 08:01:38 PM IST

Indians urged to postpone travel plans to Sudan as armed forces clash​

“In view of reported firings and clashes, all Indians in Sudan are advised to take utmost precautions, stay indoors and stop venturing outside with immediate effect. Indian planning to travel to Sudan should postpone their travel. Please also stay calm and wait for updates," read an update shared by the Indian Embassy in Khartoum.
15 Apr 2023, 07:05:37 PM IST

Russia calls for 'urgent steps towards ceasefire' in Sudan​

"The dramatic events taking place in Sudan are causing serious concern in Moscow. We call on the parties of the conflict to show political will and restraint and take urgent steps towards a ceasefire," Russia's foreign ministry said in a statement.

15 Apr 2023, 07:00:40 PM IST

US seeks 'immediate' end to fighting in Sudan​

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said he was "deeply concerned" about the reports of fighting. He said US embassy staff in the capital Khartoum are all "currently accounted for."
"We urge all actors to stop the violence immediately and avoid further escalations or troop mobilizations and continue talks to resolve outstanding issues," he tweeted.
15 Apr 2023, 06:23:30 PM IST

Flights suspended, some carriers turn back in mid-air​

Commercial aircraft trying to land at Khartoum International Airport began turning around to head back to their originating airport as the clash intensified. Flight tracking data showed that flights from Saudi Arabia turned back after nearly landing at the airport on Saturday.
Saudi flag carrier Saudia said it had suspended all flights to and from Sudan until further notice after one of its Airbus A330 planes "was involved in an accident". The army has accused the paramilitaries of burning civilian airliners at the Khartoum airport after its takeover.

15 Apr 2023, 06:11:06 PM IST

Burning airplanes, airstrikes in Sudan - Watch videos​

Know more: Burning airplanes, airstrikes in Sudan as paramilitary, Army clash | Pics and videos
15 Apr 2023, 06:07:49 PM IST

Sudan paramilitary chief vows to fight on until all army bases captured​


15 Apr 2023, 05:54:40 PM IST

Civilians killed, injured as clashes continue​

According to a doctors union, three civilians have been killed as fighting rages within Sudan armed forces.

Gunfire was heard in several parts of Khartoum on Saturday and eyewitnesses told Reuters about shooting in adjoining cities. Cannon and armoured vehicles have been deployed in the streets of the capital, and heavy weapons are firing near the headquarters of both the army and RSF.

Doctors said clashes had occurred in residential neighborhoods and civilians had been injured. Civilians were seen running for cover as artillery exchanges rocked the streets.

According to a statement issued by the Sudan Doctors Committee — a part of the country's pro-democracy movement — clashes have led to "varying injuries." The military also said the fighting resulted in a number of casualties but provided no further details.
15 Apr 2023, 05:50:05 PM IST

UN Sudan envoy urges 'immediate' end to fighting within security forces​

UN Special Representative in Sudan Volker Perthes said that he had “reached out to both parties asking them for an immediate cessation of fighting to ensure the safety of the Sudanese people and to spare the country from further violence."

15 Apr 2023, 05:48:01 PM IST

Sudan's air force strikes multiple paramilitary bases​

“The Sudanese air force destroyed Tiba and Soba camps (in Khartoum) which belong to the Rapid Support (Forces) militia," the air force said in a statement.
It added that the regular army was chasing down RSF fighters and urged civilians to stay indoors as fighting raged on the streets of the capital between the rival security forces.
15 Apr 2023, 05:41:41 PM IST

What does the paramilitary RSF say?​

In a series of statements, the Rapid Support Forces militia accused the army of attacking its forces at one of its bases in south Khartoum. "The Rapid Support Forces defended themselves in response to the hostile forces inflicting heavy losses" on the regular army," it said in a statement.
It said its fighters "were able to take control of Merowe airport" north of Khartoum, "expelled attackers on bases in Soba" and "took control of Khartoum airport." They also claimed to “completely control" Khartoum’s Republican Palace - the seat of the country’s presidency.

15 Apr 2023, 05:33:31 PM IST

Stranded passengers seen bowing their heads as RSF takes over Khartoum airport​

Sudan's paramilitary Rapid Support Force said it had taken control of Khartoum airport Saturday in response to army attacks on its bases. Visuals shared widely on social media showed passengers cowering as troops took over the area.
Know more: Watch: People at Khartoum airport in Sudan terrified after RSF takes control
15 Apr 2023, 05:23:18 PM IST

Wider conflict feared as clash continues​

Fierce clashes between Sudan’s military and the country’s powerful paramilitary force erupted Saturday in the capital and elsewhere in the African nation, raising fears of a wider conflict in the chaos-stricken country.

15 Apr 2023, 05:22:56 PM IST

What led to Sunday's clashes?​

The clashes came as tensions between the military and the RSF have escalated in recent months, forcing a delay in the signing of an internationally backed deal with political parties to revive the country’s democratic transition.
Sudan has been marred in turmoil since October 2021, when a coup overthrew a Western-backed government, dashing Sudanese aspirations for democratic rule after three decades of autocracy and repression under Islamist ruler Omar al-Bashir.
While the army-RSF rivalry dates back to the rule of autocratic former president Omar al-Bashir, the situation worsened amid efforts to iron out Sudan’s unsigned transition agreement. There was disagreement over how the paramilitary RSF - headed by Gen Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo - should be integrated into the military and what authority should oversee the process.
15 Apr 2023, 05:14:01 PM IST

Clashes at Sudanese state TV headquarters​

Clashes are taking place at the headquarters of Sudan's state TV, an anchor who appeared on screen briefly said on Saturday, amid clashes between the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces and the army. Gunshots could be heard in the background, a Reuters witness said.

15 Apr 2023, 05:11:28 PM IST

Planes on fire at Khartoum airport​

Visuals share on social media showed smoke billowing out of aircrafts. Unverified reports also suggest that some passengers have been injured or killed.
15 Apr 2023, 05:06:59 PM IST

Indian embassy in Sudan advises citizens to stay indoors​

“Notice to all Indians in view of reported firings and clashes, all Indians are advised to take utmost precautions, stay indoors and stop venturing outside with immediate effect. Please also stay calm and wait for updates," the Indian Embassy in Khartoum tweeted.

15 Apr 2023, 05:06:59 PM IST

Sudan air force strikes paramilitary bases in Khartoum: army​

Sudan's air force struck multiple paramilitary bases in Khartoum on Saturday, the army said, as fighting raged on the streets of the capital between the rival security forces.
"The Sudanese air force destroyed Tiba and Soba camps (in Khartoum) which belong to the Rapid Support (Forces) militia," it said in a statement.
 
jward

jward

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I hate it when mom and dad fight.
For the slower, not talking about Sudan.
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I completely agree. Never a good look, or omen, for these cats n dogs to be carrying on like, well,

-cats and dogs :eek:



I can understand to a degree Dennis’s frustration. It’s been hard to watch TB2K’s slide as leader of the pack as timely and relevant news disseminator, and I share the frustration when hearing that other sites now do it better, and sooner, and that people turn to them instead of us. That can change though, if we want it to.

but Kitty and Carl are the best of the best and we all owe them a debt of gratitude, imho, for their tireless efforts and quality contributions. Kitty sorts and surfs breaking news for decades now and remains unmatched here in that skill, and we’d be hard pressed anywhere to find anyone with Carls knowledge base and analytic skills, let alone someone who had em and was so selflessly willing to share!

Not to leave out the other “official” news hounds, many of whom are still trying to hold down jobs or battle significant health problems, yet still find the time to bring us timely material that actually matters.

All of the above are indispensable and rarely if ever get the appreciation they deserve!
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Having said that though, as the comments here reflect, though the story itself may have been “breaking” it didn’t really rise to the other criteria one is normally taught to associate with VIP news: the localization/proximity, impact, prominence and overall import simply were not there- as has been stated, it’s just another coup and is unfortunately competing with many many other things that have real import to us and a bigger claim to our attention. I think the comments bear this out- although the poetry was a rare treat. : )
(now we must ask if that was WW writing or his chat bot friend?!)

Anyway, I expect/hope the cats n dawgs made up by now- and suspect that either the dawg was having a painful day, or some real big bad mojo is bout to break on the world stage, and that one, or both of these things explain this unfortunate episode.
 
Cardinal

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Warm Wisconsin said:
In a digital world, voices hushed and still,
An online forum stood, watching, waiting,
For words to grace its space, a screen to fill,
A tale of Sudan's coup, hearts debating.

In shadows, whispers of a coup arose,
A nation gripped by change, a struggle strained,
Yet silence echoed in that forum's prose,
No words of Sudan's plight, no thoughts explained.

The owner, saddened by this quiet truth,
Longed for engagement, empathy to share,
To bridge the gap between the old and youth,
To spark a fire, for minds to be aware.

But hope was not extinguished, it remained,
For words have power, and hearts can be regained.

Arise, oh writers, poets, speakers bold,
Express the stories that are left untold,
For in your hands the fates of nations mold,
A single word can make a spirit whole.

Sudan's upheaval, sung in verse and rhyme,
May stir the souls of those who've turned away,
And in the forum's threads, they'll find the time,
To speak of change and strife, and have their say.

For as the sun sets over desert land,
And darkness shrouds the tales we long to know,
The power of words will break the silent band,
And let the stories of Sudan's coup flow.
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Was that you or chatgpt generated?
 
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Sudan: Army and RSF battle over key sites, leaving 56 civilians dead

Clashes between the army and a notorious paramilitary force leave nearly 600 people injured.
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Sudan: Army and RSF battle over key sites, leaving 56 civilians dead​

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A power struggle between Sudan's army and a paramilitary force has rocked the country, with more than 50 civilians reported dead.

Residents dodged gunfire in the capital, Khartoum, as rival forces battled over the presidential palace, state TV, and army headquarters.

Twenty-five people, including 17 civilians, have died in the city, a doctors' organisation said.

The clashes erupted after tensions over a proposed transition to civilian rule.

Both the army and its opponents, the Rapid Support Forces (RSF), claimed they had control of the airport and other key sites in Khartoum, where fighting continued overnight.

Heavy artillery was heard in Omdurman, which adjoins Khartoum, and nearby Bahri in the early hours of Sunday morning. Eyewitnesses also reported gunfire in the Red Sea city of Port Sudan.

The army said jets were hitting RSF bases, and the country's air force told people to remain in their homes on Saturday night while it conducted a full aerial survey of paramilitary activity.

Residents of Khartoum told the BBC of their panic and fear, with one describing bullets being fired at the house next door.

At least 56 civilians have been killed in cities and regions around the country, a Sudanese doctors' committee said, adding that dozens of military personnel were dead, some of whom had been treated in hospitals.

In total, at least 595 people had been injured, it said.

Three employees for the World Food Programme (WFP), a UN body that delivers food assistance to vulnerable communities, were killed after the RSF and armed forces exchanged fire at a military base in Kabkabiya, in the west of the country.
Generals have been running Sudan since a coup in October 2021.

The fighting is between army units loyal to the de facto leader, Gen Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and the RSF, commanded by Sudan's deputy leader, Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo also known as Hemedti.

Gen Dagalo said his troops would keep fighting until all army bases were captured.

In response, Sudan's armed forces ruled out negotiations "until the dissolution of the paramilitary RSF".

'So much panic and fear'​

In Khartoum, people were filmed running away and taking cover as black smoke rose over the city.

A Reuters journalist said there were armoured vehicles in the streets, while video showed a civilian plane ablaze at Khartoum airport. Saudi airline Saudia said one of its Airbuses came under fire.

Saudia and EgyptAir have suspended flights to Khartoum and neighbouring Chad has closed its border with Sudan.

"We don't have any electricity," a British-Sudanese doctor, who is visiting relatives in Khartoum, told the BBC. "It is hot. We can't afford to open the windows, the noise is deafening."

Another eyewitness speaking to the BBC via her Kenya-based sister said: "Shooting is still ongoing and people are staying indoors - there is so much panic and fear."

Residents had not been expecting the clashes, she said, and many had been caught in transit, with bridges and roads closed and many schools in lockdown.

Duaa Tariq was speaking to the BBC when a military plane flew over her building. "They're shooting live ammunition at the roof of the house next door and we're just now taking shelter," she said.
Smoke rises above buildings near one of Khartoum's airport
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Smoke rises above buildings at Khartoum's airport

The UK, the US and the EU have all called for an immediate end to the fighting. The UN's secretary general has spoken to Gen Burhan and Gen Dagalo, urging them to end the violence.

US Ambassador John Godfrey said he "woke up to the deeply disturbing sounds of gunfire and fighting", and that he was "sheltering in place with the embassy team, as Sudanese throughout Khartoum and elsewhere are doing".

Russia's embassy was also concerned by the "escalation of violence" and urged a ceasefire, Reuters reported.
The RSF on Saturday claimed control of at least three airports, the army chief's residence and the presidential palace, but Gen Burhan denied this in an interview with al-Jazeera.

There are also reports of clashes at the state TV station, which eyewitnesses say is now controlled by the RSF.
Earlier, the RSF had said that one of its camps in the south of Khartoum had been attacked. And on Saturday evening, Reuters reported that the army launched airstrikes on an RSF base in the north-west of the city, citing eyewitnesses.

The army has said that RSF fighters have been attacking army camps and trying to seize the military headquarters.

"Clashes are ongoing and the army is carrying out its duty to safeguard the country," the AFP news agency quoted army spokesman Brig Gen Nabil Abdallah as saying.

The Reuters news agency also cited witnesses as saying that there was gunfire in the northern city of Merowe.

The RSF released a video that it said showed Egyptian troops who had "surrendered" to them in Merowe. The Egyptian military said its soldiers were in Sudan to conduct exercises with their Sudanese counterparts and that it was co-ordinating with Sudanese authorities to guarantee the safety of its personnel.

Generals run Sudan through the Sovereign Council. Gen Burhan is its president, while Hemedti is its vice-president.

A proposed move to a civilian-led government has foundered on the timetable to integrate the RSF into the army. The RSF wanted to delay it for 10 years, but the army said it should happen in two years.

Hemedti was a key figure in the conflict in Darfur that began in 2003 and has left hundreds of thousands dead.

Western powers and regional leaders had urged the two sides to de-escalate tensions and go back to talks aimed at restoring civilian rule.

There had been signs on Friday that the situation would be resolved.

The 2021 coup ended a period of more than two years when military and civilian leaders were sharing power. That deal came after Sudan's long-term authoritarian President Omar al-Bashir was overthrown.

There have been regular pro-democracy protests in Khartoum since the coup.
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At least 56 killed, hundreds injured in clashes across Sudan as paramilitary group claims control of presidential palace​


CNN journalists in Sudan
Updated 12:54 AM EDT, Sun April 16, 2023

CNN —
At least 56 people have been killed and 595 injured in clashes across Sudan, according to the Central Committee of Sudan Doctors.

Sudan’s paramilitary chief Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo claims to have seized most of Khartoum’s official sites after clashes erupted between his armed group and the country’s military on Saturday.

“The Rapid Support Forces control more than 90 percent of strategic sites in Khartoum,” Dagalo said in an interview with Sky News Arabia, referring to his paramilitary group.

The country’s military leader, General Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, disputed Dagalo’s claims and said the military has maintained control over government sites.

Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo attends a rally in the village of Abraq, Sudan, on June 22, 2019.

Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo attends a rally in the village of Abraq, Sudan, on June 22, 2019.
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In an interview with Al Jazeera, Dagalo – also known as Hemedti – described Burhan as a “criminal,” accusing him of instigating fighting on Saturday, which led to three civilian deaths and dozens wounded.

Armed clashes were reported throughout Khartoum, including the presidential palace and the capital’s army headquarters. Medical sources at a hospital in central Khartoum told CNN Saturday afternoon the hospital has received dozens of wounded civilians and military personnel in the last several hours.

Heavy smoke bellows above buildings in the vicinity of the Khartoum's airport on April 15, 2023, amid clashes in the Sudanese capital.

Heavy smoke bellows above buildings in the vicinity of the Khartoum's airport on April 15, 2023, amid clashes in the Sudanese capital.
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Sudan’s military said the Rapid Support Forces infiltrated Khartoum airport and burned civilian aircraft.

“To our honorable people, the rebellious forces are continuing with their cycles of traitorous plotting and attacks against our country and its national sovereignty. Since this morning, your Armed Forces sons have been fighting with their lives for our nation’s rights and dignity,” the Official Spokesman of the Armed Forces said in a statement.

Dagalo’s meteoric rise to power began when he was a leader of Sudan’s notorious Janjaweed forces, implicated in human rights violations in the Darfur conflict of the early 2000s. His group also killed at least 118 people in pro-democracy protests in June 2019 after troops opened fire at a peaceful sit-in.

‘Traitorous plotting’​

Sudan’s army accused the Rapid Support Forces of “traitorous plotting” against the country, and has demanded its dissolution.

There will be “no negotiation or dialogue before dissolving Hemedti’s rebel militia,” the Sudanese army said in a statement. It also issued a wanted poster for Dagalo, calling him a “fugitive criminal.”

UN Secretary-General António Guterres called on the leaders of the RSF and Sudanese Armed Forces to “immediately cease hostilities,” while the UN Security Council released a statement stressing “the importance that humanitarian access is maintained and the safety of UN personnel is ensured.”

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The African Union also issued a statement urging “the political and military parties to find a fair political solution to the crisis.”

The General Command of the Sudanese Army issued a statement calling on civilians to stay indoors as warplanes will be conducting sweeps looking for Rapid Support Forces.

“The Sudanese Air Force will conduct a complete sweep of the rebel Rapid Support militia’s presence. The Air Force calling on all citizens to stay inside their houses and not to go out,” the statement said.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the “fragile” situation comes amid negotiations over a civilian-led transition to restore civilian rule in the country.

“The major parties in Khartoum some weeks ago reached a very important framework agreement on how to proceed with a transition to civilian government. And there’s been real progress in trying to move that forward,” Blinken said during a news conference in Vietnam.

“It’s a fragile situation. There are other actors that may be pushing against that progress. But this is a real opportunity to finally carry forward the civilian-led transition and one that we and other countries are trying to bolster,” the US top diplomat added.

In a statement on Sunday, Blinken said he had spoken with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates the day before about the “dangerous” fighting in Sudan that “threatens the security and safety of Sudanese civilians and undermines efforts to restore Sudan’s democratic transition.”

“We agreed it was essential for the parties to immediately end hostilities without pre-condition,” he said, adding “the only way forward is to return to negotiations that support the Sudanese people’s democratic aspirations.”

Blinken said he urges General Abdel Fattah Abdelrahman al-Burhan and General Mohamed Hamdan Degalo to take “active measures to reduce tensions and ensure the safety of all civilians.”

The discussion emphasized the importance of stopping the military escalation and returning to the framework agreement in a way that guarantees the security and stability of Sudan, it said.

Khartoum’s State Security Committee late Saturday declared a public holiday in the capital “in order to preserve lives of citizens and their property.”

The military has been in charge of Sudan since a coup in 2021, with Burhan and Dagalo at the helm. The 2021 coup ended a power-sharing arrangement, following the 2019 ouster of long-term former President Omar al-Bashir.

A CNN investigation also uncovered another link between the two men: their involvement in Russia’s exploitation of Sudan’s gold resources to fund its Ukraine war, with Dagalo’s forces also being key recipients of Russian training and weaponry.

But recent talks have led to cracks in the alliance between the two military leaders. The negotiations have sought to integrate the Rapid Support Forces into the country’s military, as part of the effort to transition to civilian rule.

Sources in Sudan’s civilian movement and Sudanese military sources told CNN the main points of contention included the timeline for the merger of the forces, the status given to RSF officers in the future hierarchy, and whether RSF forces should be under the command of the army chief — rather than Sudan’s commander-in-chief — who is currently Burhan.

The hostilities, sources told CNN, are the culmination of what both parties view as an existential fight for dominance, one with Burhan, they said, seeking support from Sudan’s former Islamist rulers, resurrecting the specter of days many Sudanese fought to leave behind.

Additional reporting by Reuters.
 
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I too have been wondering if we post new thread and stick new "breaking" news in the big threads. I've been waiting on some clarification because the main isn't seeing as many breaking news threads and I thought that was the point of having the assigned threads?

I also haven't slept in days.. because April 18th and all. So I may be thinking too much.
 
Melodi

Melodi

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When some of us went to bed, this was barely being reported, and it was being covered on the Central African thread. Things exploded overnight (UK/Irish time), or at least the news about it did. We woke up to reports of 56 dead, doctors getting desperate, and perhaps a full-scale civil war. I've been trying to get the news out of France, which may also be on the verge of a civil war, but which English language news sources seem to have a near blackout on.

Housemate says it is being reported better in German news sources, and there have been many demonstrations and riots. Still, no one has done something spectacular like storming the Bastille or setting fire to Macroon's living space. But things are crazy enough that stuff could happen back to Africa.

BBC now has a constantly updating thread on this, which is the major headline. It updates every few minutes.

 
Warm Wisconsin

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Cardinal said:
Was that you or chatgpt generated?
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Pinecone said:
Ohh, good point. I had wondered why we hadn't heard his poetry before. I thought it was awful quick, too. Caught me. :(
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How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll lollipop?

There is just some things that are unknowable.

Seriously, I only used prompts and editing skills. AI did the rest
 
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BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, APR 16, 2023 - 07:35 AM
Smoldering tensions between rival armed forces erupted into all-out warfare in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum on Saturday, leaving at least 50 dead and 600 injured. What began as a peaceful clash over Sudan's political future is now a war for control of Africa's third-largest country .

The battles pit the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) led by General Abdel Fattah al-Burhan against the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) of General Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo -- who's also known as Hemedti and has served as Burhan's deputy head of state.
via Britannica

The two generals united in a 2021 coup to take shared control of the country. However, recent months have seen mounting tensions between the SAF and RSF, as the generals have clashing positions in negotiations for the establishment of civilian government -- something the country's been trying to achieve since a 2019 revolution overthrew the 30-year reign of President Omar al-Bashir.

To say things have soured among the two former allies would be a major understatement: After fighting erupted, Hemedti has reportedly said that "Burhan will be captured or he will die like a dog." Meanwhile, in a gesture that seems comically empty given the state of affairs, Burhan issued a decree commanding the RSF to disband.

Generals Dagalo aka Hemedti (left) and Burhan (Mahmoud Hjaj/Anadolu Agency via AFP)
It's unclear who fired the first shot, but now the two forces are battling for control of key Khartoum locations, including the presidential palace, army headquarters, state television and the airport.

Battles have also been reported in various other cities. "Large numbers of casualties reported in Nyala, South Darfur," tweeted BBC freelancer Mohanad Hashim. "We need to build a better picture of what is going on beyond Khartoum."

While ZeroHedge can't authenticate them, videos are circulating on social media that purportedly show various scenes of combat. Here, a multiple-rocket launch system is deployed from the bed of a light truck, as other soldiers make a tardy exit from the backblast area:

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View: https://twitter.com/Moshtabk/status/1647173270662262784?s=20


SAF jets were seen screeching low over the Khartoum skyline as they conducted airstrikes on RSF positions in and around the city.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647270930870042624
View: https://twitter.com/LogKa11/status/1647270930870042624?s=20



Some of the earliest fighting took place at Khartoum International Airport. Saudi Arabia's national airline, Saudia, reported one of its Airbus A330 jets had an "accident." It was seen engulfed in flame, while other videos showed multiple commercial aircraft ablaze. All flights have been cancelled.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1647185120313372673
View: https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1647185120313372673?s=20



Battles continued to rage overnight, lighting up the sky with tracer rounds...

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View: https://twitter.com/MowliidHaji/status/1647462524751585281?s=20


US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said he has consulted with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates about the "dangerous fighting...which threatens the security and safety of Sudanese civilians and undermines efforts to restore Sudan’s democratic transition." The trio called for an immediate end to hostilities "without pre-condition."

There are also calls for peace from within Sudan. “I demand al-Burhan, the army commanders, and the RSF leaders to stop the bullets immediately and for the voice of reason to rule,” said Abdalla Hamdok, former civilian prime minister in a video statement. “There is no victor over the corpses of its people.”

US embassy staff in Khartoum have been ordered to shelter in place, with similar advice given to Americans citizens in the country. Since its 1956 independence from the UK and Egypt, Sudan leads Africa in the cumulative number of coup attempts, at 15 and counting.

Osama bin Laden operated both legitimate businesses and a terrorist headquarters in Sudan in the early 1990s, before being expelled. In 2020, Sudan was removed from the US list of state sponsors of terror by Donald Trump, as his administration pushed for Sudan to establish diplomatic relations with Israel. To achieve the removal, Sudan agreed to pay $335 million in restitution to terror victims.

While Trump avoided publicly linking the terror-designation removal and the establishment of diplomatic ties with Israel, RSF leader Hemedti was frank: “Whether we like it or not, relations with Israel are tied to removing Sudan from the US list of states sponsoring terrorism."

Hemedti speaks to reporters in May 2019, following the coup that deposed 30-year President Omar al-Bashir (AP photo)

As the Trump White House maneuvered, Hemedti spoke warmly of Israel's potential to benefit Sudan, a 91% Muslim country: "We need Israel. It is a developed country and Sudan will benefit from its advanced capabilities in the technical and agricultural sector."


Hemedti, who's been vilified for a bloody 2019 crackdown on a protester camp that killed more than 100, has the backing of Saudi Arabia and UAE. He gained their favor by deploying RSF soldiers to aid the Saudi war in Yemen.

Sudan's position on the Red Sea amplifies its strategic significance. While they were sharing power, Burhan and Hemedti used the possible construction of a Russian naval base at Port Sudan as a bargaining chip in their pursuit of US tolerance of their military rule.

In February, Sudan's military completed its review of an agreement for the Russian base -- and approved it. However, it said final adoption would have to wait for the transition to civilian rule, to include the creation of a legislature to ratify it.

To the extent this new war postpones that transition and the establishment of a new Russian naval base astride the Red Sea, it would seem it serves a US government objective. We can't help wonder, then, about Washington's sincerity when it comes to stopping it -- and about how exactly it started.


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Txkstew

Txkstew

Veteran Member
Shitholia and Greater Shitholia.

In 1973, while my parents, and little bro, were working in Saudia Arabia, and I was there on Summer break, were briefed by my Mom on her plan for our vacation. She had a plan for us to take a trip to Ethiopia, Cyprus, and Lebanon. It was met by little interest. All three fell into Civil War shortly there after. We, on the other hand went back to the States for Vacation.
 
CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Warm Wisconsin said:
In a digital world, voices hushed and still,
An online forum stood, watching, waiting,
For words to grace its space, a screen to fill,
A tale of Sudan's coup, hearts debating.

In shadows, whispers of a coup arose,
A nation gripped by change, a struggle strained,
Yet silence echoed in that forum's prose,
No words of Sudan's plight, no thoughts explained.

The owner, saddened by this quiet truth,
Longed for engagement, empathy to share,
To bridge the gap between the old and youth,
To spark a fire, for minds to be aware.

But hope was not extinguished, it remained,
For words have power, and hearts can be regained.

Arise, oh writers, poets, speakers bold,
Express the stories that are left untold,
For in your hands the fates of nations mold,
A single word can make a spirit whole.

Sudan's upheaval, sung in verse and rhyme,
May stir the souls of those who've turned away,
And in the forum's threads, they'll find the time,
To speak of change and strife, and have their say.

For as the sun sets over desert land,
And darkness shrouds the tales we long to know,
The power of words will break the silent band,
And let the stories of Sudan's coup flow.
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And let the stories of Sudan's coup flow.

Which one?

Khartoum is a 1966 British epic war film written by Robert Ardrey and directed by Basil Dearden. It stars Charlton Heston as British General Charles "Chinese" Gordon and Laurence Olivier as Muhammad Ahmed (a Sudanese leader whose devotees proclaimed him the Mahdi), with a supporting cast that includes Richard Johnson and Ralph Richardson.[4] The film is based on historical accounts of Gordon's defence of the Sudanese city of Khartoum from the forces of the Mahdist army, during the 1884–1885 Siege of Khartoum.[5] The opening and closing scenes are narrated by Leo Genn.

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John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
KittyKatChic said:
I too have been wondering if we post new thread and stick new "breaking" news in the big threads. I've been waiting on some clarification because the main isn't seeing as many breaking news threads and I thought that was the point of having the assigned threads?

I also haven't slept in days.. because April 18th and all. So I may be thinking too much.
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I'm sorry you haven't slept in days, but what importance is April 18th?
 
Knoxville's Joker

Knoxville's Joker

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intothatgoodnight said:
Suggest that we hook TB2K up to the latest "Breaking News In Africa" ChatGPT API (application programming interface).

Would do the trick, nicely.


intothegoodnight
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Honestly between the brains here we might be better off housing our own in house ai scouring bot or something. The problem is that we would need more terabytes of storage. Is this something we need to start a thread on and see if enough interest is there to warrant a fund raiser once the related costs are ascertained?
 
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intothatgoodnight

. . .
Knoxville's Joker said:
Honestly between the brains here we might be better off housing our own in house ai scouring bot or something. The problem is that we would need more terabytes of storage. Is this something we need to start a thread on and see if enough interest is there to warrant a fund raiser once the related costs are ascertained?
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The core essence of the SEVERAL current retail-level AI systems is their individual shared data repositories from which that particular AI retail-level service derives its capability.

Sovereign-maintained/built large-scale (private) AI systems, which are not available to outsiders, are similar in architecture.

An AI API would be the more cost effective approach - or, several different retail AI APIs representing interfaces to multiple different AI retail products/services, from which potential conclusions/reports could be amalgamated and drawn into the TB2K noosphere/cauldron.


intothegoodnight
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
LightEcho said:
This could become BIG news. It smells like a US attempt to open another proxy war against Russia.

Short talk about this in the beginning of this video-
RT 5:27
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The PRC presence on the ground there has been "large" for a long time. IIRC a few years ago the PRC had +50,000 "security personnel" in Sudan to protect their oil exploration and drilling investment.

That the Egyptian presence was to the extent it was IMHO implies that they were working upon getting "a share" of the petroleum and natural gas sent north to them.

There's also the "issue" of the Nile and its water flow with regards to Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia.
 
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