Experience counts. Nothing much else does (with the possible exception of personality, because some human docs don't listen to their female patients, and some human docs are just arrogant know-it-alls, and who wants to deal with that?).
I honestly hate the word Karens why do people use it? It is like an insult. Please inform, I am female, I have emotions and I love my pets as any animal owner would if they have a heart.
I will be praying for you & your pup !Warthhog: that is true they have to pay back their school loans. I do not know what Vets make now a days. I live in the country so we have many female vets , the closer I get to the City I see the male vets. But I have not seen any real young male vets of as yet. I think they stay in major cities where they get more money.
I have to take a pet to the University of Pennsylvania in Philla to their Vet hospital it it has a large amount of male Vets. It is a school but they have a Vet clinic. I have a puppy that we just got and it's back legs are turning outwards.
So my Premium Vet Hospital is sending me to the City for this dog. I am either going to get my money back from the breeder ( the dog will need surgery and is only 5 months) or give her back and get a new dog.. Hard to do as we are attached to her. But the surgery I have been warned will cost over 10 grand. I am 7 short. And they want 50 % before doing the surgery.
It am not the type of person to ask strangers online for help.
So I will see what happens when I get to Philly next week.
Thank you for speaking up.About that suicide rate in Vets these days- There was an uptick in Cancer rates after Chernobyl, and the doors blew off after Fukushima. My Vet told me in 2012 there is a 94% increase in Cancers across the board. Of my ten dogs, eight had some form of it.
The agony of the entire process, both on the dogs and on the Vet staff, is terrible. I am surprised the suicide rate is as low as it is. It actually should be higher. I controlled most of my emotion as each one said goodbye, because I knew my Vet and the techs didn't need that. I didn't come unstuck like some of the women did. I don't know how they can do years of that? They trained to be Vets, not grief counselors, but they get the melt downs from the owners as well as the animals that refuse to die quiet and scream or get up and run. Vet said all of mine were the exception, definitely not the rule. I believe her.
Throw in the emotional owners and the Karens (of both and varying sexes), the plandemic and all of that drama, the economy, chasing money for the bill, woke and the workplace, and on and on. Being a Vet is tough. Suicide is a permanent answer to a temporary problem, but I can see why some do.
My daughter is a farrier. She very good at it. She is also working on a Vet Tech Bachelors Degree. One goes well with the other. She takes her learning very seriously and finds that she loves it. She does prefer large animals but her externship lab time has to be with a small animal vet. She works on a ranch right now of 600 head of cattle.
When she was going to Farriers school she was stepped on by a draft horse, right on her knee after the horse knocked her down. She called me to let me know they were taking her to the ER. No broken bones but some pretty good bruising and swelling.
I had gone to two vet offices over the years run by a man. Both men were not very kind and gave little time to care for my animal. I found the lack of compassion disgusting.
So at present I have 3 vet offices I use as I have many animals.
2 offices are run by women. Not bad but not the greatest in service, they are kind but run me through their office like a meat factory. Today it's about getting as many bookings and giving just 10- 15 minutes of time and that is it. It's the cost of school and the cost of starting up the business.
I also go to are a larger vet hospital that has an older man. He is my age 60ish. He is rather rough around the edges so I prefer the female Doctors. But this Vet Hospital which is more expensive gives me unlimited time for my animal. I pay premium.
Overall I like the Premium Hospital best it is just that I have to drive a distance.
I prefer women they are far more compassionate.
You as a man probably can relate more with a male doctor. Though my husband has no issues though he agrees the Premium Hospital is better and he enjoys talking about the medical research with the doctors since he was in medical research.
So I think it depends on your comfort level.
Yes, I know it's hard and expensive, but there are also a lot of the wrong people becoming vets, as well as doctors.
I also think this next generation, raised on the Internet, will have a ton of problems in professional positions. Many have stunted emotional growth, being almost 30 but still seeing life at a 15 or 16 year-old in many respects.
The coming world war and purges will cure them of that type of myopic point of view.
We had a female vet for our cat. He had urinary tract cysts and couldn't urinate. This vet was a nightmare. She was a good surgeon, but she had no compassion and disliked my cat. She hurt him and he came home traumatized and with the feline version of P.T.S.D. after an extended stay - 10 days if I remember. He is now transgender, but healthy. The vet was a mature woman.
That was many years ago. The vet we have now is a woman who is younger. She is so kind and a very good vet. My cat comes home as relaxed as possible after being at the vets. He is old now and taking thyroid medication. When we took him in he was failing and very thin. It happened very quickly. Our vet knew immediately what the problem was. My cat is now much healthier and has gained weight.
My point is that it has nothing to do with gender, it is the individual.
I have a wethered sheep that way also. They re route the urethra so they have to urinate like a female. Keep blockages from forming again. Shorter exit routewait.....your cat is now transgender?!
what?
I have a wethered sheep that way also. They re route the urethra so they have to urinate like a female. Keep blockages from forming again. Shorter exit route
That is part of the reason my daughter prefers large animals. She is very empathic when people are in emotional pain especially to the loss of their fur family members.About that suicide rate in Vets these days- There was an uptick in Cancer rates after Chernobyl, and the doors blew off after Fukushima. My Vet told me in 2012 there is a 94% increase in Cancers across the board. Of my ten dogs, eight had some form of it.
The agony of the entire process, both on the dogs and on the Vet staff, is terrible. I am surprised the suicide rate is as low as it is. It actually should be higher. I controlled most of my emotion as each one said goodbye, because I knew my Vet and the techs didn't need that. I didn't come unstuck like some of the women did. I don't know how they can do years of that? They trained to be Vets, not grief counselors, but they get the melt downs from the owners as well as the animals that refuse to die quiet and scream or get up and run. Vet said all of mine were the exception, definitely not the rule. I believe her.
Throw in the emotional owners and the Karens (of both and varying sexes), the plandemic and all of that drama, the economy, chasing money for the bill, woke and the workplace, and on and on. Being a Vet is tough. Suicide is a permanent answer to a temporary problem, but I can see why some do.
and speaking of mental imagery, the title of this thread evoked one hell of a mental image as well.
i have a very active imagination.
as with my very inquisitive nature, it is a blessing and curse.....
Our most recent vet, a woman, was incredible. She shared an office with some small animal vets, but she hated to be there and spent most of her time traveling around tending to flocks of sheep and cattle and goats like ours. A woman of few words and no frills, just gentle, plain, common sense. She just retired and we can find no one to replace her - no one is taking new clients. Our livestock are incredibly healthy (knock wood!) and we deworm, vaccinate, and deliver all our own kids and castrate the wethers ourselves, but I am NOT looking forward to the day when something goes awry, and we're not up to the task. Oh, wait , there is one fellow who might come out, but at $200 just for the farm visit, well, nobody better get sick is all I can say.Every year it gets tougher to find large animal vets.
Seeker22, no offense to you. I just hate the word. I somehow figured it was derogatory. I have been seeing it all over the web and could not figure it out. I am 63 so I do not keep up with the new slang language.I hate the word Karens, too. I also hate that they hijacked the word dumb to mean stupid or slow and the word gay to mean anything but happy. I used Karens, instead of (nosey) bitches, as Dennis doesn't like that word on the forum. Apologies to all named Karen.
Ew.You're also within spitting distance of the vet school, Packy, and have the "A" students. Out in the hinterlands, a lot of the new small animal vets are questionable, at best. A lot of them end up working for the corporations, like Banfield.
I generally find OLDER vets to be the better ones.I find the female vets to be the better ones actually.
Female converts would still be men. Now mind you, I don’t mind female vets per se, but I DO mind young, self-important know-it-all vets. The women tend to wear those traits on their sleeve more than men do.As everyone else has said Vets don't make the big bucks anymore and for a variety of reasons. That said it could be worse Dennis, it could be male to female converts that are taking care of your dogs.
And that is your choice. My female vets have all been in their early 30's and have been fabulous! I would not trade them. It's the person and attitude, not the gender or their age. I've run into "older" vets that just freaking suck.I generally find OLDER vets to be the better ones.
Quacks and butchers all have the word “doctor” in front of their name. Evidently your standards are pretty low.When my dog or cat is hurt or in distress i don't much care if the Vet is male or female, as long as there is the word Doctor in front of their name.
Mike
Karen was co-opted as a term to describe bitching, miserable, demanding women. I think it fits perfectly.I honestly hate the word Karens why do people use it? It is like an insult. Please inform, I am female, I have emotions and I love my pets as any animal owner would if they have a heart.
THIS!I also think this next generation, raised on the Internet, will have a ton of problems in professional positions. Many have stunted emotional growth, being almost 30 but still seeing life at a 15 or 16 year-old in many respects
And you’ve been DAMN LUCKY. Try it with vets in their mid 20’s. Come back with a full report.And that is your choice. My female vets have all been in their early 30's and have been fabulous! I would not trade them. It's the person and attitude, not the gender or their age. I've run into "older" vets that just freaking suck.
Ew.
Banfield. That’s a dirty word in our practice, lol. At least among us techs, it is. I’d not take a pet rock to a Banfield.
Wow! A couple of years ago it was $90 to have my mom's sweet Joy put down here at home by our local vet; they do it on their "farm call" rounds. They would have disposed of her, but we still had our other property out of town and dh took her to our "pet cemetery" there.A couple years ago when my great dane suddenly could no longer get up the local lady vet's office gave me a card for a mobile vet who was a guy to come put Spottie down. He arrived with his wife and a fancy mid sized truck with a really great setup, all stainless steel. His normal practice was goats, he said. My bill that day was $450, and no disposal of the corpse.
The local lady vet has a booming business that she owns and there is always quite a wait to see her. Sadly she does have some kind of nervous condition that causes her to miss work often. Seems like she just loves animals so much that it messes with her head when she sees them getting old and dying.
Spottie just loved that woman!