PREP The Time Is NOW...

Jmurman

Veteran Member
We have all spent the past month or so commiserating the upcoming election. I don't care WHO you vote for. The fact remains that we, as a country are in for some deep sh&t.

This means WE as citizens and individuals are going to witness the biggest changes to our nation that we have EVER faced.

If BO is elected then you can bet the media will start spinning that we are "OK, but "changes" have to be made. Those changes scare the crap out of me. I do not want to go down the road of socialism.

If McCain wins then he will face the wrath of a Demon-cratic controlled congress and senate and lawsuit after lawsuit over the election.

You know what I am saying is true.

So it's time to take inventory.

TURN OFF THE TV

Go through your preps and write what you have and what you need.

Make sure you have adequate meds, completed Dr visits, spare eyeglasses and all of that stuff.

Don't wait, act now...today.
 

janecj333

Membership Revoked
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think America has been through bad times and you're wrong that we haven't seen and known the worst and managed to find solutions. To prepare for the unknown is a good thing. To pontificate about political candidates to further divide us does all of us a disservice.
 

Jmurman

Veteran Member
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think America has been through bad times and you're wrong that we haven't seen and known the worst and managed to find solutions. To prepare for the unknown is a good thing. To pontificate about political candidates to further divide us does all of us a disservice.

Good luck to you.
 

MataPam

Veteran Member
I agree with you, Janecj333.

The _worst_ thing that could happen to this country is to loose respect for the rule of law. Who ever wins the election, there will be people claiming it was stolen, unfair, whatever. If McCain wins, it'll be the inner cities. If Obamma wins it'll be my fellow Red Necks.

But we need to limit the protests to grumbling and pay attention to what Congress is doing. We can elect a different president in four years.

We need to realize that the President's powers are limited by the Congress. And even though Democratically controlled, there are enough Dems with sense to not go overboard.
 

BlueNewton

Membership Revoked
NOOOOOooooo! Not what I need to hear when I am in prepping burn-out mode! :sht:

Of course, you are right. We should not always expect to have time still left.
 

UncurledA

Inactive
Thanks, Jm. You are so right. I thought you were going to post Alan Stang there for a minute....his latest article says exactly the same thing you are saying - it doesn't matter who you vote for, serious carp is coming fast, and no one of prominence for the last 30 years has done anything to prevent chaos, if they haven't actually fomented it:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan169.htm

( fair use )

AFTER THE ELECTION, HIDE YOUR STUFF


by Alan Stang
October 23, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

Here we are, a couple of weeks before the election, and I must confess I am in awe at the staggering genius of the conspiracy for world government. The conspirators strategize not just in years, but in decades. We are looking at the culmination of a scheme that obviously was planned and set in motion many years ago, a masterful demonstration of dialectical materialism. It’s no surprise that we are losing.

The Communist Party says it abolished itself. We can be sure of that because – heh, heh – the Party says so. But the Party is merely playing possum. It is about to elect a Communist President of the United States, where the government investigated, fired, fined and jailed Communists until a few years ago; and where people used to sue if you called them a Red.

Personally, I am suffering from a classic case of Yogi Berra’s déjà vu all over again. Forty years ago, I covered the Democrat National Convention in Chicago, which the Communists attacked. There was tear gas. There was the Chicago Police Department’s “Stink Squad,” assigned to investigate the incredible, lingering stench in the lobby of the Hilton. There was the court trial of the Chicago Seven.

All these many years later, I believed that 1968 was long dead medieval history, before the internet, when you had to use a “pay phone” to make a call. What? Had you told me then that forty years later the heirs and colleagues of the Communists who attacked the convention would elect one of their own President on a Communist platform, I would have thought it less likely than the possibility that Bella Abzug could have been named Miss America.

On the other ticket, we have a leader of the illegal alien invasion of this country, a man who sponsored successful legislation to inhibit freedom of speech, a former POW, who has since done everything he can to bury the POWs still abandoned in Southeast Asia, a man who takes pains to insult the POW families, actually hugged a North Vietnamese Communist torturer at a hearing in Washington and is a staunch advocate of world government, and on and on.

I believe that John McCain’s bizarre behavior is the result of prolonged and intensive Soviet interrogation and brainwashing in Vietnam, the product of which is a true Manchurian candidate. I believe that is why he made some thirty two propaganda tapes for the North Vietnamese, tapes broadcast over the loudspeakers in the prison camps, where other POWs heard them.

John Top Holland cites a report in his new book, Perfidy: The Government Cabal That Knowingly Abandoned Our Prisoners Of War and Left Them to Die (Washington, AFP, 2008), that McCain’s CIA file shows he was in a Communist country in eastern Europe for a couple of years, not in a North Vietnamese hole. Were the Soviets preparing him to go home and enter politics?

So, in effect, there is a Communist at the top of each ticket. The only “difference” is in their styles and appearance, in which kind of Communist they are. The conspirators for world government must be whooping with delight. Totally benighted, we are about to vote ourselves into Communist penury and enslavement. If the people ever wake up, it could be too late.

Notice that whatever the revelations about their candidate and however many there are, Obamatrons are not impressed, not by the present certainty that he spent considerable time as a child with a Communist Party sexual degenerate, and then, as an adult, with a violent Communist terrorist in Chicago, not by the probability that he is a Communist himself, not by the fact that he is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to be President, and not by the fact that for years he was, and maybe still is, a Muslim, and on and on. He has been trained all his life to run for President this year.

I don’t believe I exaggerate very much when I speculate that the typical Obamatron would not be moved were Barney Frank caught in flagrante delicto behind Senator Hussein. He is “the One.” He is “the Messiah.” Why? The answer is whacking you upside the head. The present fiasco could only be possible because for a couple of generations now our population has literally been brainwashed in our Communist government schools. That national brainwashing is reinforced daily by our Communist media.

Who will win? I have built a reputation over almost half a century for brevity, clarity and honesty, and I shall not disappoint you here. I don’t know. But it makes no real difference. Again, the tops of the tickets are Reds. Both parties have collaborated to install the legal machinery that would legitimize a wall to wall Communist dictatorship. Posse comitatus has been repealed, and so on.

What should we realistically expect after the election? Because people are asking about it, I need to expand on a subject I have already raised. Many Americans are storing food, firearms, fuel and other essentials. A good idea! Go ahead and do it. But some are thinking they will “sit it out.”

When supermarket shelves go bare, when the ammo is gone, when the lights go out and there is no more gas, etc., they will reload at home, fire up the propane lanterns, barbecue those sides of beef, enjoy feasting and congratulate themselves on their foresight. A silly idea! What did you imagine the government will be doing while you “sit it out?”

Large, ugly men with no senses of humor, heavily armed federal agents, will come to your house, break down the door if they have to, and confiscate what you have stored. They will carry it out, load it on trucks and take it away. You will never see all that toilet paper, those medicines, those MREs, etc., again. What? They can’t do that!

They can’t? What about the Executive Orders? Remember? They must be important because every President has tinkered with them. They have the force of law. When the President declares a national emergency, the Executive Orders give him legal authority to seize every thimble and lug nut, every seed and female hygiene product, in fact every female in the country. And the fact that you are hoarding all those things is an obvious emergency.

Look them up. Neither Hitler, nor Stalin, nor even Mao Tse-tung was able to seize that much power. They didn’t have the technology. The next President, a Communist, will. No problem, though. Der Plan calls for them to load you on another truck and take you to a camp, where you will recline in taxpayer comfort while Der Heimat Security decides what to do.

Remember that those camps are financed, finished, equipped and staffed – and empty. Needless to say, for reasons of safety and to protect The Children, you will be forbidden to bring your firearms to the camps. We must do what it takes to protect The Children. And a member of the Clergy Response Team – who believes Romans 13 says you must obey government whatever it does – will be there to reassure you.

Indeed, when you arrive you will find many friends and neighbors, because people from miles around will be concentrated there. What would you call those camps? Let’s see. People will be relocated there. Why not “relocation centers?” Good. Again, people will be concentrated there. Hmm! Any thoughts?

This part of our analysis is not speculation. We know this will happen. We know it because both of the candidates are Communists. Just this morning, my guest on the Sting of Stang, Vietnam POW wife Diane van Renselaar, confirmed and amplified for me on the air what Army Colonel William Atkins told her (cited in the Holland book). According to his CIA file, John Sidney McCain spent a couple of years after capture not in a North Vietnam prison being tortured, but in Communist Czechoslovakia being “wined and dined.”

So we shall get one kind of Communism or another. And somewhere in the process you will make a choice. You do not have the choice not to make a choice. You will make it. Doing nothing is also a choice. What choice will you have? I am a total amateur on the subject. Alexander Solzhenitsyn is an expert.

In his Gulag Archipelago, he explains that even while they are dragging you away, you will tell yourself it is a mistake. I am innocent. They will let me go. “At what exact point, then, should one resist? When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? . . .”

In a famous footnote on page 13 of my edition, he writes: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive . . . . Or if, during periods of mass arrests . . . people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door . . . and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .

“If . . . if . . . We didn’t love freedom enough. . . . We submitted with pleasure! . . . We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” Solzhenitsyn says “resistance should have begun right there, at the moment of the arrest itself. But it did not begin.” Of course, he is talking about Russia. Here the same thing would have a different style. For instance, in the Soviet Union you were simply arrested. Here, if you ask one of the super patriot zombies whether you are being arrested, he will say you are not, but you must go along to the camp.

So what will you do? Will you simply give up your stash and get on the bus? Right now you probably don’t know yourself. You may not know until it happens. But we do know they are coming. We do know who the enemy is. The enemy – and I mean this literally, not metaphorically – are for instance the national Communist media.

People like Katie Kook and Chris Matthews and Bill Maher, outfits like the Communist News Network (CNN) and the Communist Broadcasting System (CBS) are just as much enemies as Wehrmacht Panzer units invading our country in uniform would have been in 1943. They are not confused. They know what they are doing. They will not stop until they destroy you. And they are accessible. You don’t need me to tell you what to do with such an enemy.

The enemy is Helicopter Ben Bernanke, Ponzi Paulson, Madam Peelousy, Butt jumper Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the bottom slice of Ted Kennedy’s “waitress sandwich.” And on and on. The Red professors. All the people who routinely spit in your face; the people who don’t care how you vote, for whom the vote is a mere charade; the people who have destroyed your job and intend to dissolve your country.

They have gotten away with it, so far, because you have not yet made them sufficiently afraid when they set foot in your neighborhoods. The soles inside their Guccis don’t yet tingle nervously when they set foot on the tarmac. The ones who are elected must return to the districts once in a while to maintain the pretense that they represent you, but they don’t yet wonder whether they will return to Washington alive.

What el presidente Jorge W. Boosh would call “el momento de verdad” is coming soon. Look at the Executive Orders. Then read Solzhenitsyn.

[Announcement: Alan Stang's new radio show, The Sting of Stang, will debut on Monday, July 14th, 7 to 8 a.m., Central, M-F, via Republic Broadcasting Network. To listen, go to republicbroadcasting.org and click on Listen Live. Call in is 800 313-9443. If you can't listen at that time, do so via the archives, which are free. I'll be talking about the various manifestations of the conspiracy for world government, its tactics, such as the illegal alien invasion, its purposes and its players, from Jorge W. Boosh on down.]

© 2008 - Alan Stang - All Rights Reserved
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
I've said it before, but, when you see a cloud of black smoke curling up over my place and hear a loud blast, you'll know that Cappy's stash ain't gonna be used against him or his compatriots. You'll also know that Cappy just might be a'knocking at your door, looking for a warm 'hidey-hole'. Heh, as I've said, I've tried to prep for *all* possible scenarios. Can't take it with me? Heh, we'll see. Hide and watch!
 
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mbabulldog

Inactive
I've said it before, but, when you see a cloud of black smoke curling up over my place and hear a loud blast, you'll know that Cappy's stash ain't gonna be used against him or his compatriots. You'll also know that Cappy just might be a'knocking at your door, looking for a warm 'hidey-hole'. Heh, as I've said, I've tried to perp for *all* possible scenarios. Can't take it with me? Heh, we'll see. Hide and watch!

They'll always be a cot and 3 hot squares for you at mi casa, Caplock. It'd be an honor to go shoulder to shoulder with ya!
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
But we need to limit the protests to grumbling and pay attention to what Congress is doing. We can elect a different president in four years.

You have got to be kidding, right? Look where the present admin got us in the last 4 years......good grief. And in 4 years after we get either mr socialist or mr globalist we can just elect another different breed of the same and it will be all roses and sunshine?

I hope whatever it is you are drinking is not overly strong but if it is, you might want to back off of it a bit.....

It's this sort of indulgence in thinking our gov will be ok, that got us to where we are today..........the economy is in the pits, our debt is in so many figures I can't even count them all anymore and we face some really serious issues in the coming weeks/days.

whoa......
 

Jmurman

Veteran Member
You have got to be kidding, right? Look where the present admin got us in the last 4 years......good grief. And in 4 years after we get either mr socialist or mr globalist we can just elect another different breed of the same and it will be all roses and sunshine?

I hope whatever it is you are drinking is not overly strong but if it is, you might want to back off of it a bit.....

It's this sort of indulgence in thinking our gov will be ok, that got us to where we are today..........the economy is in the pits, our debt is in so many figures I can't even count them all anymore and we face some really serious issues in the coming weeks/days.

whoa......

Four years can wreak havoc on an already fragile and increasingly dysfunctional society and economy.

That's why I get when I hear of people wanting to vote for BO , because it's "change."
 

egads

Veteran Member
I'll take Mr. Globalist over Mr. Socialist any day. At least with the globalist we stand a chance. The socialist lays it all for you in how he's going to take your money and give to the "less fortunate", and people are going to willingly vote for this boob, WOW!! Talk about kool-aid drinkers!
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We need a president that is a scientist. Not a politician. Not someone who envisions the Earth and its people as puppets for their experimental and egotistical amusement. Someone to 'try' pipe dreams on. We need someone who understands alternative energy, Hydrogen, solar, math and good ole hard work. Someone honest. Someone who doesn't want to cheat. Someone who knows how to say 'sorry' to those we have offended, and really mean it. Someone who will gladly try to pay back some debt. Someone that is compassionate. Someone that can explain to the people in the US what really happened to all their money, and to let them know that to some extent it was their own fault. Someone to explain in honest words what needs to be done to protect us from this happening again. Someone to help us see that all we need to do is to make a few minor changes to improve things. Not tear the guts out of the country and start over.

Too bad that person is know where to be found.

Humans are ready to kill themselves off. The last thing we need is an experiment by someone who is angry deep down inside. This isn't normal times in any shape or form.

I don't think McCain isn't the perfect answer, but, I do think he is the best bet from what we have to choose from.

jmo.
 

nharrold

Deceased
I agree with you, Janecj333.

We need to realize that the President's powers are limited by the Congress. And even though Democratically controlled, there are enough Dems with sense to not go overboard.[/quote]

Worked real good this last time around, didn't it!
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think America has been through bad times and you're wrong that we haven't seen and known the worst and managed to find solutions. To prepare for the unknown is a good thing. To pontificate about political candidates to further divide us does all of us a disservice.

Oh yeah the world has had tough times before and in general the were better prepared to deal with it. The times we are about to go through are not in most of living memory.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Folks, it doesn't really matter who gets elected...the die has been cast. There's going to be 'troubles', no matter who is president. Biden has said it. Colin Powell has said it. Madeline Albright has said it. And neither of the two candidates have denied it. If you are not prepared to defend yourself and your loved ones...you best 'git'r done'...asap!

It is my personal belief that with obama, it'll drag out to 4 or more years. With McCain, it'll be (the worst of it) a year to two years. I can handle two years a lot easier than I can 4 to 8 years. I'm voting 'McCain/Palin'.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
jane you have to go back more than 150 years to get to REAL bad stuff in the US.

MOST countries only have to go back less than a generation.

WE are NOT prepared or capable of mentally and spiritually BEING prepared in large numbers because we have NOT been tested. Yes the Greatest Generation WAS tested, but NOT ON OUR SOIL. And, while they may have been the Greatest Generation they raised a generation of Benjamin Spock Wussies, who in turn raised a generation of couch potatoes who can't DEAL with a delay in their gratification, and THEIR heirs can't deal with ANY delay in gratification and have the attention span of a gnat or ADD 6 year old on 5 tablespoons of sugar and a quarter pound of chocolate.


the Nation is HARDLY made up of the same "Right Stuff" that the Greatest Generation was made up of.

So, no, CURRENT AMERICANS aer NOT ready to deal with privations....I'm not sure that we're able to BECOME ready in a short time (like a year or two). And I don't REALLY think we have a year.
 

Rucus Sunday

Veteran Member
The reason we're now dealing with the greater evil is because people kept voting for the lesser evil. As it turns out, there's no difference in the long run. A vote for Bush then was a vote for Obama now. A vote for McCain now is a vote for someone worse than Obama...in the future. If we're not going to vote for people who respect the Constitution, why complain when they get elected and then don't respect it?
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Um

I personally think it will matter little who gets in as the same controllers are behind all parties. I haven't listened to the below but I'd say it's not that far off the mark.

None seem to want to tell the whole truth. Russia is just being used also to do the dirty work for the real power. The real power is those behind the Feds and central banks. Money controls this world and Old Nick is the power behind the lot.



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