CRIME The proliferation of Security Tags on things

[20Gauge]

Just an observation from the last few weeks. It appears that small crime, (petty theft), has been taking a jump. Not that petty theft is petty to me. Theft is theft.

What spurred this observation was my purchasing a 20 round box of 223 so I can continue building my ammo fort. When I went to check out it has one of those little security tags in order to prevent theft.

I really didn't think much of it as I figured it was from when things were in short supply and it just didn't get rotated. Not the case apparently.

I went to buy some CCI 22 ammo and saw the same thing. Got a flashlight for the wife and it was the same thing.

Got a pair of shirts and yep the same thing.

I decided to ask the cashier what was happening, (she was older and not afraid to talk apparently), and she told me that the stores are having a big problem with people walking out with things. So they are tagging everything. Their loses were just too much.

I am not sure what the problem is as we live in a decent area with low crime and a lot of people carry day to day.

I know it means something, but no sure what.

 

[summerthyme]

The entitlement attitude is spreading. And lest you want to stereotype the perps as the "usual suspects", older folks (baby boomers) apparently do a LOT of shoplifting. A friend who was a manager at Wal-Mart said that the prime reason they had to lock up *razor blades* (which admittedly went stupid in price when they started competing to see how many blades they could put on one cartridge!) was because older men would look at the price, grimace... and then pocket them!

Another BIG problem in terms of theft is... hearing aid batteries!

"Shrinkage " is a HUGE problem in the big box stores. People don't feel any sort of a human connection with the owners (not like if you're in Mr. Smith's hardware store... you know if you pocket an item, HE and his family are going to take the loss, and if too many people steal, he'll close down and your town won't have a hardware store) and so many feel like they've gotten screwed in some way by "the man" that they feel *entitled* to items which catch their eye.

And then there are the shoplifting rings.. groups of people (often ethnic or immigrant women in "native costume"... burkas, or voluminous skirts and loose tunic tops) who often take orders for merchandise, and then send soneone out with a "shopping" list of stuff to get!

Our founders were right... our system of government, and indeed, our societal order, are wholly dependent on the country being populated by "a religious and moral people". Without that, the rule of law is a joke.

Summerthyme

 

[20Gauge]

I can understand what you are saying. Yet, the items you are describing are considered basics by some, razor blades etc. Other items are simply resold for profit. I can't see the same when the items being taken are gun parts, t shirts, underwear, ammo, etc.

That is what I am having trouble understanding. There is no real profit motive, real money savings or survival needs.

Yes, razor blades are far too pricey and I do understand why people steal them.

 

[summerthyme]

Well, ammo is *defnitely * resellable for profit.. generally to someone who diesnt want to ve seen buying it, or who can't qualify under some law to buy it.

The rest... underwear, etc... again, there are theft rings that will take orders for ANYthing... and people who consider "ordering" something they want from one of these groups to just be "smart business". We have a tenuous and ever-weakening hold in the whole concept of private property in this country, thanks to the socialist indoctrination ongoing.

Summerthyme

 

[NCGirl]

I would LOVE to post the youtube video of the girl saying "you got to understand growing up in the hood we gotta steal things, how you gonna get money for new clothes and stuff"? but I am afraid I will post it wrong and get yelled at so I will just tell you what it says.

Somehow its just not as funny that way.

sorry


I just purchased some stuff from Nordstroms and they forgot to take the security tag off. I HATE those things. I would try and take it off myself but its an expensive blouse and I just know it will shoot ink all over the shirt if I do. But DAMN! now I got to drive 2 hours round trip to get them to take it off. I may just dispute it on my credit card. Did I say I hate those tags?

 

[hiwall]

I had some ammo shipped here from academy sports and I noticed they had security tags on them.

 

[20Gauge]

Well, ammo is *defnitely * resellable for profit.. generally to someone who diesnt want to ve seen buying it, or who can't qualify under some law to buy it.

The rest... underwear, etc... again, there are theft rings that will take orders for ANYthing... and people who consider "ordering" something they want from one of these groups to just be "smart business". We have a tenuous and ever-weakening hold in the whole concept of private property in this country, thanks to the socialist indoctrination ongoing.

Summerthyme

Can't argue with the comment. It still makes me feel that something has changed and I am not sure what. 6 months ago, even with shortages of some items, this wasn't needed. Now it is.

 

[Macgyver]

I would LOVE to post the youtube video of the girl saying "you got to understand growing up in the hood we gotta steal things, how you gonna get money for new clothes and stuff"? but I am afraid I will post it wrong and get yelled at so I will just tell you what it says.

Somehow its just not as funny that way.

sorry


I just purchased some stuff from Nordstroms and they forgot to take the security tag off. I HATE those things. I would try and take it off myself but its an expensive blouse and I just know it will shoot ink all over the shirt if I do. But DAMN! now I got to drive 2 hours round trip to get them to take it off. I may just dispute it on my credit card. Did I say I hate those tags?

If you have a large magnet you can release most of those security tags.

 

[NCGirl]

If you have a large magnet you can release most of those security tags.

Seriously?
I have some super strong magnets sitting here in the table! Please tell me how to do it! I know the minute I try to pull it apart it's going to shoot that ink all over not shirt. I sure don't want to spend 2 hours driving back to the store either, if I can get it off myself would be great

 

[33dInd]

well...........put on your thinking caps folks.............This goes back to the obama era also............decriminalization of a lot of things to include raising the shoplifting levels from petty to felony...............Think. They had to lesson the theft rates so they , nation wide, including here in Oklahoma raised the misdemeanor to felony to well over a thousand dollars.
Most drug crimes they did the same thing to.............slowly but surely

 

[bbbuddy]

I would LOVE to post the youtube video of the girl saying "you got to understand growing up in the hood we gotta steal things, how you gonna get money for new clothes and stuff"? but I am afraid I will post it wrong and get yelled at so I will just tell you what it says.

Somehow its just not as funny that way.

sorry


I just purchased some stuff from Nordstroms and they forgot to take the security tag off. I HATE those things. I would try and take it off myself but its an expensive blouse and I just know it will shoot ink all over the shirt if I do. But DAMN! now I got to drive 2 hours round trip to get them to take it off. I may just dispute it on my credit card. Did I say I hate those tags?

I had no idea there was such a thing as an ink tag. Good thing I don't steal.
Learn something new here every day.
And I must be REALLY behind the times, lol.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

I had no idea there was such a thing as an ink tag. Good thing I don't steal.
Learn something new here every day.
And I must be REALLY behind the times, lol.

LOL, don't feel bad. I don't know what they're talking about, either!

 

[SageRock]

Can't argue with the comment. It still makes me feel that something has changed and I am not sure what. 6 months ago, even with shortages of some items, this wasn't needed. Now it is.

Perhaps they're getting ready for hyperinflation.

 

[hiwall]

Soon there will be armed guards too.

 

[intothatgoodnight]

I would LOVE to post the youtube video of the girl saying "you got to understand growing up in the hood we gotta steal things, how you gonna get money for new clothes and stuff"? but I am afraid I will post it wrong and get yelled at so I will just tell you what it says.

Somehow its just not as funny that way.

sorry


I just purchased some stuff from Nordstroms and they forgot to take the security tag off. I HATE those things. I would try and take it off myself but its an expensive blouse and I just know it will shoot ink all over the shirt if I do. But DAMN! now I got to drive 2 hours round trip to get them to take it off. I may just dispute it on my credit card. Did I say I hate those tags?

. . . uh, WHO would "yell" at you on TB2K? What would "they" type, that you find difficult to deal with, such, that it limits your potentially valuable posting additions for ALL of us to read?

Serious questions.


intothegoodnight

 

[Nowski]

I view absolutely everything, from a racial POV.

Therefore I have to conclude, Africans.

Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.

AVOID THE GROID

Regards to all deplorables.

Nowski

 

[Bardou]

I think when an employee forgets to take that electronic alarm tag off an item, that they should give it to you for free. After all it's an accusation that you did not pay for it, you must be stopped and you must produce the receipt showing you aren't a thief. Not only that, people stopping and staring at you is embarrassing. I think I will have them call the cops, refuse to show the receipt until the cop gets there. Cause a scene, then tell them you plan to sue them. Maybe then this $hit will stop!

 

[Dozdoats]

This video is about 4 years old -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=-7nz_c_850w
Life Hack: Security Tag Removal
RT 02:07

 

[20Gauge]

I view absolutely everything, from a racial POV.

Therefore I have to conclude, Africans.

Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.

AVOID THE GROID

Regards to all deplorables.

Nowski

This is one of the stores that is 99% white in both employees and shoppers. Not sure how they managed that, but they did.

 

[20Gauge]

I think when an employee forgets to take that electronic alarm tag off an item, that they should give it to you for free. After all it's an accusation that you did not pay for it, you must be stopped and you must produce the receipt showing you aren't a thief. Not only that, people stopping and staring at you is embarrassing. I think I will have them call the cops, refuse to show the receipt until the cop gets there. Cause a scene, then tell them you plan to sue them. Maybe then this $hit will stop!

They do have value around here. Walmart for example should have a substation for the police for all of the shoplifting, etc.

 

[SmithJ]

I had some ammo shipped here from academy sports and I noticed they had security tags on them.

I was gonna say, the only place I’ve seen ammo with security tags is at Academy Sports

 

[LibertyInNH]

I think when an employee forgets to take that electronic alarm tag off an item, that they should give it to you for free. After all it's an accusation that you did not pay for it, you must be stopped and you must produce the receipt showing you aren't a thief. Not only that, people stopping and staring at you is embarrassing. I think I will have them call the cops, refuse to show the receipt until the cop gets there. Cause a scene, then tell them you plan to sue them. Maybe then this $hit will stop!

Easy solution - keep walking if the buzzer goes off. You have no obligation to stop.

 

[WalknTrot]

I'd guess that at least 1/3 of the everyday stuff sold on Ebay and in Amazon "storefronts" are stolen merchandise. Great way to launder ill-gotten gains.

 

[Don Quixote]

...And then there are the shoplifting rings.. groups of people (often ethnic or immigrant women in "native costume"... burkas, or voluminous skirts and loose tunic tops) who often take orders for merchandise, and then send soneone out with a "shopping" list of stuff to get! ...

Summerthyme

A friend who worked at a WM store told us how some of the "migrants" in full tribal array would fill up shopping carts with merchandise, then swagger out the door without even slowing down for the check out, loading their haul into late model if not new SUVs or vans.
They were told to ignore them.
My speculation was that they knew that if they gave them any hassle, the next pack of "refugees" who came in would bring automatic weapons and explosives, and leave the place bathed in blood and body parts, which would diminish their customer flow appreciably, if not shut the place down.

Guess they figure it just isn't worth it.

Certain "ethnic" groups feel that they are entitled to "Jizya" from subjugated Kuffar - which apparently includes generous welfare and license to steal with impunity.
The subjugated Dhimmies (most of us) are obligated to pay their jizya tax (tribute) via higher prices to cover the losses as well as taxes to fund government largesse.

Don't know if the Trumpster can turn things around, but I get the distinct impression that after 8 years of Obama's rule, America is for all intents and purposes another part of the global Caliphate.

Things haven't gotten as bad as most of Europe... yet... but this "religion" is just as ruthless and relentless as it has been for the past 1400 years or so.

Unless effectively resisted (which will violate a lot of PC constrictions and offend the hell out of a lot of people) what we have known as human civilization will be lost.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

I think when an employee forgets to take that electronic alarm tag off an item, that they should give it to you for free. After all it's an accusation that you did not pay for it, you must be stopped and you must produce the receipt showing you aren't a thief. Not only that, people stopping and staring at you is embarrassing. I think I will have them call the cops, refuse to show the receipt until the cop gets there. Cause a scene, then tell them you plan to sue them. Maybe then this $hit will stop!

Now that I know what everyone is talking about, this has happened to me twice at Wal-Mart. Both times, I had bought a DVD, and the cashier forgot to take the alarm tag off. The buzzer went off at the door as I was leaving. Talk about "embarrassing"! I was stopped, my receipt was checked, and I had to go back to the checkout for them to take it off. All the while, everyone was starring at me as if I was some kind of criminal!

 

[NCGirl]

. . . uh, WHO would "yell" at you on TB2K? What would "they" type, that you find difficult to deal with, such, that it limits your potentially valuable posting additions for ALL of us to read?

Serious questions.


intothegoodnight

Dennis !!
He's scary .....


I tried to read and understand the how to about posting links and my decrepit old brain is too foggy to understand.

Thanks for the magnet video, I'm gonna try it as soon as I get home!

 

[Mercury3]

I would LOVE to post the youtube video of the girl saying "you got to understand growing up in the hood we gotta steal things, how you gonna get money for new clothes and stuff"? but I am afraid I will post it wrong and get yelled at so I will just tell you what it says.

Somehow its just not as funny that way.

sorry


I just purchased some stuff from Nordstroms and they forgot to take the security tag off. I HATE those things. I would try and take it off myself but its an expensive blouse and I just know it will shoot ink all over the shirt if I do. But DAMN! now I got to drive 2 hours round trip to get them to take it off. I may just dispute it on my credit card. Did I say I hate those tags?

I think I saw the same one. She actually said that and believed it too.

 

[biere]

I just skimmed this thread so I don't know if it was mentioned.

Some of the small tags are used for inventory control and stuff by manufacturers I believe.

There are of course security tags galore and a google or other search will turn up all sorts of stuff.

I like the octupus tag myself, wraps itself around the product and cashier removes there at the register.

I know also if you search some folks discuss how to disable things like ink tags and what not and this stuff is always ongoing.

I like to know what is out there just so I know, I don't see a point in stealing a penny if I know who dropped it on the ground I will tell em they dropped it or pick it up for someone elderly. On up to whatever.

But sometimes getting home, I live rural, and finding a tag still on the product a drive back to have em disable something I can do myself is something I consider.