CORONA The Illegality of Mandatory COVID testing/Testing of only the Unvaxxed

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
I have seen a lot of talk around the boards recently about workplaces mandating COVID tests just for the unvaccinated. I am about to face this issue at my workplace, and have prepared the following document which I will present once I am tested. Bottom line, it is illegal and a violation of civil rights. Feel free to use and modify as necessary.

Good morning. This email is to serve as a letter of concern in regards to the upcoming policy concerning the weekly testing of only unvaccinated employees. It is imperative that you understand up front that:

· This directive is in direct violation of federal law concerning specific requirements associated with the use of EUA products.

· This directive is both inconsistent and contradictory to the current scientific data and studies proving that the COVID-19 virus infects and is transmissible by both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals alike while only requiring testing of unvaccinated personnel.

· This directive is in direct violation of the Constitutional rights of the employees who are tested, specifically the First Amendment to the Constitution which guarantees the protection of their religious rights from government overreach and impact to those employees seeking religious exemptions from the COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

All COVID-19 tests, whether polymerase chain reaction (PCR), antigen tests, or others, are authorized, not approved or licensed, by the federal government; but have been approved for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) only. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorizations for over 200 different test kits manufactured by various organizations. Each of FDA’s EUA letters relies on 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb- 3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(I- III). EUA products are by definition experimental and thus require the right to refuse, which puts the mandatory testing directive in contradiction to federal law. Title 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(I-III) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act states: individuals to whom the product is administered are informed—

(I) that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
(II) of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
(III) of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

The use of any EUA product must be optional, and come with the right to refuse the product under federal law. By issuing a directive ordering subordinate units to submit their unvaccinated members to twice weekly EUA COVID-19 tests in order to access their work centers, the company's new testing directive is in direct violation of federal law concerning the use of EUA products and is thereby illegal. By extension, all supervisors who carry out the directive are also in violation of federal law. In regard to this, what is the company’s legal authority for violation of Title 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(I-III) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act?

Second, the deliberate targeting of only unvaccinated individuals with this directive is counter to the current science and available data concerning the COVID-19 virus and the COVID-19 vaccines. Each of the current COVID-19 vaccine producers explicitly state that their products to do not fully prevent or completely protect individuals from catching or spreading COVID-19. In addition, according to the CDC, as well as peer reviewed medical journals and scientific studies, individuals that are unvaccinated, and individuals that are fully vaccinated or fully vaccinated and have received the COVID-19 booster dose have not only been proven to be susceptible to infection by the virus but are also capable of transmission of the virus to others. If the current regimen of vaccines does not prevent infection or transmission of the COVID-19 virus, then what is the company’s strategic objective of requiring these twice weekly tests for only unvaccinated employees?

Since all COVID-19 vaccines currently in use will not prevent the infection or transmission of the COVID-19 virus within a unit, the company’s directive will constitute an overt form of discrimination against those employees seeking exemptions from the COVID-19 vaccination mandate. This policy not only damages workplace cohesion but puts these individuals seeking vaccine exemptions at risk of reprisal from their peers and superiors alike. Further, the policy’s weekly testing and reporting requirements (such as the requirement that a supervisor must twice weekly observe the individual’s test administration and wait with the individual to verify the test’s results) impacts the section’s ability to perform their assigned tasks by placing additional administrative burdens on them.

Third, the company directive mandating the twice weekly testing of only unvaccinated individuals violates the Constitutional rights and federal laws enacted to protect those rights concerning the religious rights and freedoms of employees. Submitting a religious exemption to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate is part of, and constitutes, the exercise of one’s religion. The company’s directive unduly and disproportionally burdens those who submitted religious exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate. This violates these employee’s rights under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) of 1993, and the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution. In regard to the RFRA specifically, the Supreme Court wrote, “That statute prohibits the federal government from substantially burdening a person’s exercise of religion unless it demonstrates that doing so both furthers a compelling governmental interest and represents the least restrictive means of furthering that interest”.

In light of the fact that both unvaccinated and vaccinated can both be infected by and transmit COVID-19, requiring the twice weekly testing of only unvaccinated individuals does not represent a ‘compelling interest’ as mandated in the RFRA. Further, the current testing directive is also not the ‘least restrictive means of furthering that interest’ as also required by the RFRA. Before the COVID-19 vaccines were available to the public, the company did not institute a twice weekly testing policy for all employees. Instead, during this time the company satisfied their aforementioned ‘compelling interest’ through a 100% mask wear mandate and COVID-19 testing when individuals either began to show symptoms consistent with a COVID-19 infection, or as a prerequisite before certain types of travel. This set the precedent of what the company considered adequate when it came to the ‘least restrictive’ measures in regard to COVID-19 risk mitigation within its structure. Consequently, in addition to the illegality of mandating employees use an EUA product, company’s testing directive to twice weekly test only unvaccinated individuals is also in violation of the legal requirements of the RFRA and the other laws and regulations described above.

To conclude, I respectfully ask that the company delay implementing testing of only unvaccinated individuals and submit a legal review of their testing policy in light of the aforementioned violations of federal law and Civil Rights that such a policy entails. Every single time anyone is tested against their will, or any time an unvaccinated person is targeted for testing, it is a violation of law. Again, I submit this to you as a caution to ensure that the company is protected and that no violations of law occur.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
You can throw all the logic and laws around all you want, the lefties don't care about them and the courts seem to agree most of the time, especially for the big stuff that really matters

For sure. The point isnt to stop the testing, as management has made it clear that they dont care. The point is get this in writing for the follow up lawsuit. Its all about setting the stage now. I have the advantage of knowing that they dont care if theyre breaking the law, so I can plan and act (and set traps) accordingly.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
For sure. The point isnt to stop the testing, as management has made it clear that they dont care. The point is get this in writing for the follow up lawsuit.

Exactly! Your well-crafted letter won't make any difference in some quarters, but following up with a lawsuit will get their attention, especially a class-action lawsuit if you can manage that.
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
Treat her like a good fart and let it rip.
They can bathe in the aftermath of their own doing.

Much more polite than I could ever be. All I know is my personality will never have erectile dysfunction.
 

Marie

Veteran Member
I recently started a part time job. After the 5th circuit ruling and before the 6th. I got the notice 2 weeks ago. There is a rumor that they will have a drawing once a month to test 10 out of every 100 employees in our group. I told them I will not vaccinate or test. They cannot keep my position filled. It has been unfilled for 2 years prior to me accepting the position. They are extremely happy with my performance and tell me daily. I told them if either is mandatory they can terminate me because I refuse to comply. The position will probably be empty again. They care but corporate doesn't. Their loss.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
That might be what it comes down to, is "compliance manipulation" by superiors that know they can lose you. Of course, they have to be on board, but I have seen and heard about some interesting fenagling and other "good faith" attempts at testing compliance that just dont seem to be able to get off the ground. Almost like the failures are planned hehe
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
That might be what it comes down to, is "compliance manipulation" by superiors that know they can lose you. Of course, they have to be on board, but I have seen and heard about some interesting fenagling and other "good faith" attempts at testing compliance that just dont seem to be able to get off the ground. Almost like the failures are planned hehe

Threatening businesses with hefty fines: corruption and coercion...strong-arm bullying. I cannot fathom that the SCOTUS would be able to say its a go. If they do, everything will crumble and implode on itself. This is all sick.

Like Knoxville's Joker said: Nuremburg code and ICC time!
 

one4freedom

Senior Member
Testing should be universal. I would say that 99% of the people I know who have gotten Covid in the past two months have been fully vaxed. Vaxed can get and transmit Covid so need to be tested.
No one should be tested until they get tests that work as all testing accomplishes is to run up the numbers for their agenda.
Producing tests that can identify what you actually have, should have been a major priority but it obviously wasn't. I know people that had one positive and later multiple negatives. They were told to quarantine for whatever is the length of time required according to the CDC as of that day. Some needed medical procedures that were rescheduled. Once rescheduled you will have wait.
If you feel sick stay home until you are over whatever you have. Other wise you are spreading whatever you are sick with.
It is criminal and violates your rights to be treated differently just because you wouldn't let them experiment on you. Of course we live in the USSA, so what should we expect.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
All your arguments about testing are pointless. The testing is a condition of employment. Quit or submit. It's not a violation of your rights.

I have heard this before too. It does not apply in my case, but from what I understand if it is not in your contract or if it was not part of your original hiring paperwork then they cannot use it as a condition of employment unless they go back and renegotiate your paperwork.
 

Stanb999

Inactive
I have heard this before too. It does not apply in my case, but from what I understand if it is not in your contract or if it was not part of your original hiring paperwork then they cannot use it as a condition of employment unless they go back and renegotiate your paperwork.

Your legally required to work where you do?
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
I have heard this before too. It does not apply in my case, but from what I understand if it is not in your contract or if it was not part of your original hiring paperwork then they cannot use it as a condition of employment unless they go back and renegotiate your paperwork.
These tests just like the vaccines are all authorized for emergency under a EUA….meaning they are experimental. Under Title 21 and the Nuremberg code, no human can be forced into medical experimentation and they have a right to refuse with zero consequences
 

Stanb999

Inactive
These tests just like the vaccines are all authorized for emergency under a EUA….meaning they are experimental. Under Title 21 and the Nuremberg code, no human can be forced into medical experimentation and they have a right to refuse with zero consequences

That has literally nothing to do with willful employment. Your company can make you do all sorts of things as a condition of employment.
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
That has literally nothing to do with willful employment. Your company can make you do all sorts of things as a condition of employment.
They sure can but they’re putting themselves at risk for all sorts of lawsuits by violating basic human right laws and the Religious Freedom Restoration Rights Act
 

Stanb999

Inactive
They sure can but they’re putting themselves at risk for all sorts of lawsuits by violating basic human right laws and the Religious Freedom Restoration Rights Act

Exactly how? You always have the opportunity to quit and find other employment. Very few are the limits on free association. Rightfully so.
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
Deny exemptions for existing employees or refuse to hire based on religious standing to the vax. The second would be difficult to prove.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
Your legally required to work where you do?

.mil so yes. It is slightly different for us. And I am not familiar with civilian employment law, but as Crustyecho said, your company cannot willfully violate federal law. This is a constrictive law that affects employers similar to the Civil Rights act of 1964. A private company cannot make a violation of federal law concerning EUA use a condition of employment just as they could not make a violation of the Civil Rights Act a condition of employment.
 
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greenhart

Veteran Member
For sure. The point isnt to stop the testing, as management has made it clear that they dont care. The point is get this in writing for the follow up lawsuit. Its all about setting the stage now. I have the advantage of knowing that they dont care if theyre breaking the law, so I can plan and act (and set traps) accordingly.
I like the way you think.
 

undead

Veteran Member
All your arguments about testing are pointless. The testing is a condition of employment. Quit or submit. It's not a violation of your rights.


hmmm, no, you are incorrect

This is a requirement by the government on the employer. The employer does not have such as a condition of employment if NOT FOR the government requirement that would otherwise bankrupt any employer.
 

Stanb999

Inactive
hmmm, no, you are incorrect

This is a requirement by the government on the employer. The employer does not have such as a condition of employment if NOT FOR the government requirement that would otherwise bankrupt any employer.

The employer has the choice as well. Many act as if an employer has an obligation to you. Not so. They can fire you for about any reason excepting a very few enumerated in law. Can you be fired for looking funny. Or having a dumb hair cut. Or... what ever.

The only question for most is will you get unemployment if fired for failure to vaccinate. The answer to this has been a resounding no.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Unfortunately, your rant letter is premised on erroneous information. At least one of the putative "vaccines" has been fully FDA approved. Additionally, companies don't care about legality. They care about what the government tells them to do. And should a person employing your (or any other) rant be fired, they can sue them employer. Then, in 5-6 years when the case comes up for trial, they can try to locate the plaintiff under the freeway overpasses, in his cardboard box.

I love all the puffed-out chest-thumping you and so many others are doing. I find it quite entertaining. Because in the end, you and most of the rest will either toe the line, or lose your livelihoods. And those with young kids will fold the fastest.

Sorry, but Real Life often interferes with one's thoughts about what's "right."
 
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TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
Unfortunately, your rant letter is premised on erroneous information. At least on of the putative "vaccines" has been fully FDA approved.

Fair, and when Comirnaty is available in the US (in say 2-3 years when the EUA vax runs out) we can have the discussion on the legality of vaccines. There are several lawsuits playing out right now about the vaccines and mandates, including at the Supreme Court. A federal judge has already ruled that the Pfizer EUA and Corminaty may be medically interchangeable, but they are "legally distinct", by Pfizers own paperwork. You still cannot, by law, mandate an EUA vax.

Additionally, companies don't care about legality. They care about what the government tells them to do.

Again granted, but a company can no more violate the civil rights of 1964 than the can Title 21 USC.

Then, in 5-6 years when the case comes up for trial, they can try to locate the plaintiff under the freeway overpasses, in his cardboard box.

My standard of living may decrease, but there is no reason for a motivated individual to end up in a van down by the river.

I love all the puffed-out chest-thumping you and so many others are doing. I find it quite entertaining. Because in the end, you and most of the rest will either toe the line, or lose your livelihoods. And those with young kids will fold the fastest.

Sorry, but Real Life often interferes with one's thoughts about what's "right."

This memo was filed this morning. I've said I am prepared to walk if it comes to that. I stand lose an almost 20 year military career, and I have 3 small children under age 10. Again, my standard of living may decrease, but in the end my family will be taken care of, none of us will be vaxxed, and I will have my integrity and have set the standard for my family. This is the epitome of "doing the right thing wont be easy".
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
That’s the exact point of this paradigm. The companies only care about what the government says and certain people in government think that no one will push back to protect their individual rights.

The more they can get away with to pushing their own agenda the more they will continue until we have zero rights left. The companies are nothing more than a tool in this instance because they don’t want to take on the deep state.

Yes, those who do push back assume risk that this may pose personal cost. But if we let them continue down this road none of us will have anything left. What do we do then?

The DoD has is the continuous societal experiment that tends to lead the charge because service members give up some rights to wear the uniform.
Sadly, there are too many who don’t read the Constitution well enough to know what all is in it.
 

SwampTiger

Watching…to go Home
Our shift just had our meeting with our plant manager. After stressing for months, he stated to us that he and the owners will NOT and never will mandate a vaccine. But they will have to comply with the testing and masking mandates to avoid the fines by OSHA. Multiple mills across 2 states.

Great thing is that when we had to fill out the vaccine questionnaire, he said that " if we were vaccinated and lost our card just to check yes and they would trust us".....lol. I didn't though, I checked unvaxxed.

Also said that for the weekly test needed that if we could not get the test done that it would be ok.... because at least we made an effort.. :D

Blessed to have a great employer.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
@TFergeson , I wasn't trying to denigrate anything you said. Rather, I was pointing out the objective reality for most people. You do you boss....

No worries Dennis we're good. I felt targeted and as you can imagine this is most certainly a sore spot and stressful time for me.

What I am finding important is that this is not a vax vs. unvaxxed issue. It is a freedom vs slavery issue. The military, and from what Ive read the commercial sector as well, is now talking about counting those vaccinated but without a booster as straight up unvaccinated. As we said months ago, forever boosters are a thing, and the threat of wearing the "mark" of being unvaccinated will not stop until someone stops them.

They backed me into a corner and made it so I have nothing to lose. So now I have been freed of constraints that would normally prevent me from taking certain actions.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No worries Dennis we're good. I felt targeted and as you can imagine this is most certainly a sore spot and stressful time for me.

What I am finding important is that this is not a vax vs. unvaxxed issue. It is a freedom vs slavery issue. The military, and from what Ive read the commercial sector as well, is now talking about counting those vaccinated but without a booster as straight up unvaccinated. As we said months ago, forever boosters are a thing, and the threat of wearing the "mark" of being unvaccinated will not stop until someone stops them.

They backed me into a corner and made it so I have nothing to lose. So now I have been freed of constraints that would normally prevent me from taking certain actions.


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