OP-ED The IEDs Come Home

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
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http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2016/09/19/the_ieds_come_home_110082.html

The IEDs Come Home

By Sale Lilly
September 19, 2016

After recently attending a military veterans conference at the University of Southern California, I could forgive the government, private and non-profit organization attendees for thinking that they were gathered to discuss how returning military veterans could better adjust to civilian life.* Instead, after another weekend of improvised attacks in the U.S. and Western Europe, I wonder if it’s average Americans who should be transitioning into a more militarized life, replete with improvised explosive device (IED) detection training, emergency tourniquet instruction and mastering barricade-in-place strategies for your school, your place of work or even your home.

If you're news-numb from the reports of killings in Chattanooga, San Bernardino, Orlando or any other number of terror attacks in the U.S., then I would urge you to take pause and consider this week’s three attacks; two with IEDs in New York and New jersey and a third with a knife in Minnesota.* Although information about the attacks is still limited, two things are significant about this weekend in American life:

One, terrorist attacks in America have definitively graduated beyond high-profile targets; to focus on a range of softer targets. Al-Qaeda and ISIS supported attacks would certainly strike high-profile landmarks and infrastructure if they possessed the capability to overcome or bypass existing security measures. To that point, this weekend we are not talking about one of the most sophisticated bomb builders in Al-Qaeda’s roster; Ibrahim al-Asiri, the bomb maker who is credited with building Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s 2009 “underwear bomb” and the 2010 toner cartridge bombs that very nearly brought down three separate aircraft. Instead, attacks with seemingly less complex designs; knives, pressure cooker bombs, were effective in terrorizing three separate states for what I would reason was no more than two to three hundred dollars of equipment and a pro-rata internet connectivity for the still-at-large bombers. If you take solace in the fact that it only took three years for terrorists to ratchet down their targets from the Boston Marathon in 2013 to a Your-Town-USA* 5K run- then don’t. Diffuse targets mean that we have traded one defensive block for another challenge, and this challenge comes with higher costs and more potential victims. While in uniform, I briefed my units deploying to Afghanistan and Iraq on the IED “hotspots” that were considered the most dangerous areas. Those briefs, while critical, lost some of their importance when insurgents made gains in infiltrating friendly military forces for the purpose of insider attacks and assassinations of coalition personnel. The interior of our own combat outposts were now suddenly “hotspots,” and the idea of a green zone needed to be stripped from our collective vocabulary. When I read in early reports that the Minnesota attacker was in a jacket marked as “security” as he stabbed eight victims, I couldn’t help but think how easily that tactic had migrated from one battlefield in Afghanistan to one shopping mall in America.

A second point, Unlike in previous high-profile attacks, life in America is quickly moving forward. The news generated about the attacks in New Jersey; at least on social media platforms, had trouble keeping up with other pop-culture topics such as a potential Notre Dame Football fourth quarter rally against Michigan State. In part, public attention may wane at these low or no casualty events compared to the astoundingly high number of fatalities in Orlando or Nice, France earlier this year. But for the bulk of Americans who don’t live near the Pentagon, New York City or major sporting venues, the week’s attacks should be all the more troubling. There is no consolation in staying away from New York City during 9/11 memorials or getting out of the Beltway on a Fourth of July weekend for fear of being too close to potential harm. Your mall could just as easily be the St. Cloud Mall; your fundraiser could just as easily be the New Jersey Semper Five race that was targeted over the weekend. So what then? Do terror attacks simply become another insurance category for Act of God or Force Majeure that we must suffer through? I personally think not. Like many returning service members, I see threats to American society and solutions to those threats embedded in the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Shortly after the September 11th attacks, I heard Jordanian and Israeli defense officials separately remark that the expanded U.S. Air Marshal programs and random anti-terror measures were just the beginning. You will look more like us, was the message. I didn’t fully appreciate their point of view, nor did I fully understand what “they” looked like at the time, but as I consider the world my infant son will grow up in (as he is beginning to crawl around my feet now) I want to consider the things he may take for granted growing up if the volume and ingenuity of terrorist attacks do not relent. With the U.S. military and Israeli force protection model in mind, here are just a few things that I think these attacks portend:

- Anti-terrorism force protection roles, unique and distinct from the requirements of law enforcement, become a part of the local and municipal government, perhaps even joining the cadre of electable positions or seats we see in election years, not unlike a county judge or comptroller. The pressure on local authorities to handle crises effectively will be high, and that pressure could generate more full-time roles in this field.

- Taxes for visible and undercover private security guards are partly subsidized by the venues that need them the most, with Israeli’s restaurant security tax mimicked or even mandated in the U.S. for restaurateurs, club owners, malls and large retail chains- who will be all too eager to have the surcharge itemized in the receipt to reassure customers their prices are not predatory.

- Opt-out mass text and social media alerts, like Amber Alerts in the case of child abduction, are the norm for all the electronic media we utilize, with victim call chain confirmations an important element for parents and loved ones to determine the relative safety of a loved one in an attack.

- And sadly, the average American citizen will relate much more closely to the American military veteran (where I started this piece), since the world the American civilian inhabits will not appear all that different - at least in tone and threat posture - from the world the service member recently departed.

The above is speculation based on what I saw in the U.S. Military, and none of it may come to pass. But I find myself suddenly a parent now and ruminating on what I will do as a parent.

When my son is old enough, will I teach him to tackle “heads-up” so he doesn’t receive a concussion in football? Will I teach him to permanently keep his personal electronics on “vibrate” so he won’t draw an active shooter to him? Will I teach him some silly rhyme about ‘liquor and beer’ for when he drinks alcohol for the first time? Will I teach him to count door exits when he enters a movie theater so he can better escape in an attack; or to be wary of vehicles that have a low suspension like the heavily packed car bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan? Will I teach him to always walk along the innocuous but ever-present traffic barricades that would give him cover in an improvised vehicle attack, as in Nice, France?

Yes. Yes, I will teach him all of those other things. Because that is what American parents must now do.


Sale Lilly is a former naval threat analyst and naval officer who served alongside NATO units in the Mediterranean, the Black Sea and Afghanistan. He is currently a crisis management consultant.
 

Bob1313

Membership Revoked
Remove all muslims that have been here less than ten years and 99% of the problems are solved, self deportation will be much better for them than the alternative....
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
Can you imagine how different officialdom's reaction would be if they thought it was militia or white supremacists?

They would treat it like the acts of war they are.

As it is they seem most concerned about pretending this shit isn't even happening.

Which means its one of the oligarchy and just us dept attack dog pets they suspect are responsible.
 
At least the hourly radio news is reluctantly, (and without comment), reporting these terrorists acts and putting the blame on muzzies. I am sure it is like pulling teeth for them, (and they do sound pained). And they are off message on promoting Hillary. So it is a double plus for us other than the fact that a new phase of the war has "come home".

We knew that it was coming, the IEDs exploding around soft targets, (the people on Main Street USA).
 

Bob1313

Membership Revoked
Can you imagine how different officialdom's reaction would be if they thought it was militia or white supremacists?

They would treat it like the acts of war they are.

As it is they seem most concerned about pretending this shit isn't even happening.

Which means its one of the oligarchy and just us dept attack dog pets they suspect are responsible.

Gotta figure out a way to steer the jihadi's to the "Correct" targets maybe release home addresses/schedules etc.. for all the politicans that allowed these hundreds of thousands of animals into the country, definitely need a few of these things to go off in the D.C. suburbs
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
Look, its basic human nature that you get more of what you reward.

When they treat jihadis, professional marxist agitators, black and latino racist supremacist groups the way they do after they visit violence on real Americans we get more of it. They are rewarding those visiting violence on us by handling it the way they do.

This is not lost on those that want to dispose of the 'irredeemable deplorables' which is why those groups visiting violence on real America and real Americans get free pass after free pass.
 

Vtshooter

Veteran Member
Gotta figure out a way to steer the jihadi's to the "Correct" targets maybe release home addresses/schedules etc.. for all the politicans that allowed these hundreds of thousands of animals into the country, definitely need a few of these things to go off in the D.C. suburbs

There you go. If muzzies really want to create a panic, target some of the DC bunch. Or the media. The msm would fall all over themselves reporting on that.
 

vestige

Deceased
Look, its basic human nature that you get more of what you reward.

When they treat jihadis, professional marxist agitators, black and latino racist supremacist groups the way they do after they visit violence on real Americans we get more of it. They are rewarding those visiting violence on us by handling it the way they do.

This is not lost on those that want to dispose of the 'irredeemable deplorables' which is why those groups visiting violence on real America and real Americans get free pass after free pass.

I had a lengthy reply in mind for the OP but decided to pass.

Adino nailed it.

Play with fire you get burned.


Prepare to deal with things like this in your own area and prepare to do it on your own terms.

911 responders will be too late for anything other than paperwork.

Always been that way...

always will be that way.

(I'm sorry)
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Can you imagine how different officialdom's reaction would be if they thought it was militia or white supremacists?

They would treat it like the acts of war they are.

As it is they seem most concerned about pretending this shit isn't even happening.

.

This is exactly right.
In any event or crisis, if you switch the groups either perpetrating the action or the recipients of the action around, and the action taken by the government would be different, then you know that the government's actions are based on political biases and not hard cold impartial reality.
The governments insistence on drumming up fear of conservative groups, while ignoring the very real terrorist actions of moslems, demonstrates this exactly.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
IED's guarantee Team Deplorable's Presidency.

Yeah, years ago I (((figured))) the importing of such attacks would up the ante in the dynamics of security against terrorism. I did not broker the meme, but felt it would 'change' things here to another level. Thankfully the Lone Wolf Terrorist who are networked in their religious doctrine of Islam are not taking in the BIG SCREEN SHOT of THE AMERICAN MIND. Neither is that Sorro-y piece of work!

Every series of IED's add to Trump's victory. Why do you think the LEFTIST-PROGRESSIVE-COMMUNIST MEDIA jumped on Trump for mentioning the bombing after the fact which also REQUIRED a immediate medicated-type Hillary response.

The Clown Shoe Left's panties are in a BIG WAD now!:eleph:
 
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TerryK

TB Fanatic
IED's guarantee Team Deplorable's Presidency.

Yeah, years ago I (((figured))) the importing of such attacks would up the ante in the dynamics of security against terrorism. I did not broker the meme, but felt it would 'change' things here to another level. Thankfully the Lone Wolf Terrorist who are networked in their religious doctrine of Islam are not taking in the BIG SCREEN SHOT of THE AMERICAN MIND. Neither is that Sorro-y piece of work!

Every series of IED's add to Trump's victory. Why do you think the LEFTIST-PROGRESSIVE-COMMUNIST MEDIA jumped on Trump for mentioning the bombing after the fact which also REQUIRED a immediate medicated-type Hillary response.

The Clown Shoe Left's panties are in a BIG WAD now!:eleph:

Exactly true. At Hillory's "staged news conference" today, one of the "arranged" questions from a pre-selected reporter was did she think these terrorist acts would aid the Trump campaign. The left is indeed worried about moslems doing what moslems do.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Remove all muslims that have been here less than ten years and 99% of the problems are solved, self deportation will be much better for them than the alternative....

And close all mosques, and deport every single imam, and shut down every mozlem organization like CAIR, ISNA, etc.
 

Be Well

may all be well
There you go. If muzzies really want to create a panic, target some of the DC bunch. Or the media. The msm would fall all over themselves reporting on that.

Islamij jihad and the commiepuke/leftists/gov are a team. If the mohammedans attacked gov/media etc, it would be "friendly fire".
 

vestige

Deceased
And close all mosques, and deport every single imam, and shut down every mozlem organization like CAIR, ISNA, etc.

It's been said before many times. Joseph O'Shaunessy:


(I think this guy went to jail.) ^^^


ETA: Thanks to the Curmudgeon... the old dog learned a new trick.
 
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pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use.....
http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2016/09/19/the_ieds_come_home_110082.html

The IEDs Come Home

By Sale Lilly
September 19, 2016

After recently attending a military veterans conference at the University of Southern California, I could forgive the government, private and non-profit organization attendees for thinking that they were gathered to discuss how returning military veterans could better adjust to civilian life.* Instead, after another weekend of improvised attacks in the U.S. and Western Europe, I wonder if it’s average Americans who should be transitioning into a more militarized life, replete with improvised explosive device (IED) detection training, emergency tourniquet instruction and mastering barricade-in-place strategies for your school, your place of work or even your home.

If you're news-numb from the reports of killings in Chattanooga, San Bernardino, Orlando or any other number of terror attacks in the U.S., then I would urge you to take pause and consider this week’s three attacks; two with IEDs in New York and New jersey and a third with a knife in Minnesota.* Although information about the attacks is still limited, two things are significant about this weekend in American life:

One, terrorist attacks in America have definitively graduated beyond high-profile targets; to focus on a range of softer targets. Al-Qaeda and ISIS supported attacks would certainly strike high-profile landmarks and infrastructure if they possessed the capability to overcome or bypass existing security measures. To that point, this weekend we are not talking about one of the most sophisticated bomb builders in Al-Qaeda’s roster; Ibrahim al-Asiri, the bomb maker who is credited with building Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s 2009 “underwear bomb” and the 2010 toner cartridge bombs that very nearly brought down three separate aircraft. Instead, attacks with seemingly less complex designs; knives, pressure cooker bombs, were effective in terrorizing three separate states for what I would reason was no more than two to three hundred dollars of equipment and a pro-rata internet connectivity for the still-at-large bombers. If you take solace in the fact that it only took three years for terrorists to ratchet down their targets from the Boston Marathon in 2013 to a Your-Town-USA* 5K run- then don’t. Diffuse targets mean that we have traded one defensive block for another challenge, and this challenge comes with higher costs and more potential victims. While in uniform, I briefed my units deploying to Afghanistan and Iraq on the IED “hotspots” that were considered the most dangerous areas. Those briefs, while critical, lost some of their importance when insurgents made gains in infiltrating friendly military forces for the purpose of insider attacks and assassinations of coalition personnel. The interior of our own combat outposts were now suddenly “hotspots,” and the idea of a green zone needed to be stripped from our collective vocabulary. When I read in early reports that the Minnesota attacker was in a jacket marked as “security” as he stabbed eight victims, I couldn’t help but think how easily that tactic had migrated from one battlefield in Afghanistan to one shopping mall in America.

A second point, Unlike in previous high-profile attacks, life in America is quickly moving forward. The news generated about the attacks in New Jersey; at least on social media platforms, had trouble keeping up with other pop-culture topics such as a potential Notre Dame Football fourth quarter rally against Michigan State. In part, public attention may wane at these low or no casualty events compared to the astoundingly high number of fatalities in Orlando or Nice, France earlier this year. But for the bulk of Americans who don’t live near the Pentagon, New York City or major sporting venues, the week’s attacks should be all the more troubling. There is no consolation in staying away from New York City during 9/11 memorials or getting out of the Beltway on a Fourth of July weekend for fear of being too close to potential harm. Your mall could just as easily be the St. Cloud Mall; your fundraiser could just as easily be the New Jersey Semper Five race that was targeted over the weekend. So what then? Do terror attacks simply become another insurance category for Act of God or Force Majeure that we must suffer through? I personally think not. Like many returning service members, I see threats to American society and solutions to those threats embedded in the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Shortly after the September 11th attacks, I heard Jordanian and Israeli defense officials separately remark that the expanded U.S. Air Marshal programs and random anti-terror measures were just the beginning. You will look more like us, was the message. I didn’t fully appreciate their point of view, nor did I fully understand what “they” looked like at the time, but as I consider the world my infant son will grow up in (as he is beginning to crawl around my feet now) I want to consider the things he may take for granted growing up if the volume and ingenuity of terrorist attacks do not relent. With the U.S. military and Israeli force protection model in mind, here are just a few things that I think these attacks portend:

- Anti-terrorism force protection roles, unique and distinct from the requirements of law enforcement, become a part of the local and municipal government, perhaps even joining the cadre of electable positions or seats we see in election years, not unlike a county judge or comptroller. The pressure on local authorities to handle crises effectively will be high, and that pressure could generate more full-time roles in this field.

- Taxes for visible and undercover private security guards are partly subsidized by the venues that need them the most, with Israeli’s restaurant security tax mimicked or even mandated in the U.S. for restaurateurs, club owners, malls and large retail chains- who will be all too eager to have the surcharge itemized in the receipt to reassure customers their prices are not predatory.

- Opt-out mass text and social media alerts, like Amber Alerts in the case of child abduction, are the norm for all the electronic media we utilize, with victim call chain confirmations an important element for parents and loved ones to determine the relative safety of a loved one in an attack.

- And sadly, the average American citizen will relate much more closely to the American military veteran (where I started this piece), since the world the American civilian inhabits will not appear all that different - at least in tone and threat posture - from the world the service member recently departed.

The above is speculation based on what I saw in the U.S. Military, and none of it may come to pass. But I find myself suddenly a parent now and ruminating on what I will do as a parent.

When my son is old enough, will I teach him to tackle “heads-up” so he doesn’t receive a concussion in football? Will I teach him to permanently keep his personal electronics on “vibrate” so he won’t draw an active shooter to him? Will I teach him some silly rhyme about ‘liquor and beer’ for when he drinks alcohol for the first time? Will I teach him to count door exits when he enters a movie theater so he can better escape in an attack; or to be wary of vehicles that have a low suspension like the heavily packed car bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan? Will I teach him to always walk along the innocuous but ever-present traffic barricades that would give him cover in an improvised vehicle attack, as in Nice, France?

Yes. Yes, I will teach him all of those other things. Because that is what American parents must now do.


Sale Lilly is a former naval threat analyst and naval officer who served alongside NATO units in the Mediterranean, the Black Sea and Afghanistan. He is currently a crisis management consultant.

You're a fool Sale. Why don't you teach your son to be a man, that all islam is to eliminated and for GODS sake teach him to be a fighter and to take back what is his, not pussy foot around an enemy.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
It is concerning to see a military man, a father of young children, passively accepting such a bleak future for them. It sort of makes you want to grab him by the front of his uniform and shout, "Snap out of it!"
 

Emcomus

<~Knights of Malta
HouseCarl, First off -Sale Lilly is quite a concise writer and correct in the threat assessment.

One BIG soft target that has been overlooked are churches and synagogues. Citizens must be aware of their surroundings at all times, run from the sound of firecrackers not to see what is happening. Duck and take cover when exiting away from the sound of this gunfire. On Black Friday in a mall in ANYTOWN USA be aware of what's happening.

Rather then a 'security tax' which I'm sure the government would love to get their hands on (reminds me of the old mafia pay for protection plan) I feel that many private security companies will sprout up offering these services. Unfortunately-malls will feel they have things under control, and church congregation's will gladly become martyrs;this dismissal or passive resistance DOES NOT reduce further acts of "Lone Wolf" terrorism. This type of response exposes security weakness emphasizing underlying vulnerabilities.

The ONLY thing which discourages future civilian attacks is PROACTIVE termination of the immediate threat. Each situation is different, but LEO know that an active shooter must be quickly terminated. For example; if a church were to come under armed attack, the best place to stop the perpetrators is outside, before they can achieve their objective. This is how battles (not the whole war) are won. The enemy is demoralized when they don't achieve their objective. Bottom line-it's better to die and make a statement; then to die in vain before creating terror.

Which is why I'm a strong believer that every citizen which wishes to carry a concealed pistol shouldn't have that right impeded by state authority. The RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS is a federal issue which should be taken away from state regulations; furthermore the government should allow interstate travel for licensed citizens. Of course criminal and sanity background checks need to be conducted, but the Fed's should be a "shall issue" entity, overriding state law. This has been done in abortion; which I still can't understand why the SCOTUS doesn't understand the RIGHT TO LIFE only LIBERTY (unless it has to do with guns).

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Gun control is hitting your target, not putting weapons into the hands of criminals. Gun Free Zones mean "terrorist soft targets" and now that bombs in trash containers are killing, injuring, and maiming citizens - perhaps all garbage cans need to be banned. How ridiculous.
 
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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
It's not like IED's is a new thing. This didn't just "happen" yesterday...

Man arrested for making bomb threat to metro malls, says "“Allah will take vengeance on the scumdogs of the western world”
Ragnarok: This was from June of this year
http://www.koco.com/news/bomb-squad...-home-after-online-threat-police-say/39969006

Refugee Indicted for Plot to Bomb Houston Malls
Ragnarok: From 2015
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-bomb-houston-malls-fight-with-islamic-state/

Terrorists threaten Mall of America
Ragnarok: Also, from 2015...
http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/terrorists-threaten-famous-american-mall/

Jim Garrow Says Muslim Terrorists To Unleash 9/11 Shopping Mall Bombing Attacks On America
Ragnarok: remember this from 2014?
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/jim-...sh-911-shopping-mall-bombing-attacks-america/

Man allegedly in al-Qaida plot to bomb Ohio shopping mall
Ragnarok: This one goes back to 2004...
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5209103/n...da-plot-bomb-ohio-shopping-mall/#.V-CqRmdTGUk

So, as you can see, IED attacks did not just "come home". They have been on the radar for AT LEAST 12 years, now. And to act like this is a new anomaly deflects from the tactic and is dishonest.
 
Two comments:
The ATF saying early on that it was Tannerite was a "red herring". The ATF
wants to ban it, keep it out of the hands of the evil rednecks who have NEVER used it for terrorism. This is just more political crap coming out of the ATF. They knew it was not Tannerite.

Also, those Pakistani wives are all "black widows". It was the same deal in the San Bernadino shooting. They are part of the radicalization process, screw them into jihad while being minders.



7 questions we have about bombings in New York and New Jersey

By Susannah Cullinane, Shimon Prokupecz, Emanuella Grinberg and Holly Yan, CNN
Updated 10:15 AM ET, Tue September 20, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/us/new-york-new-jersey-bomb-questions/index.html


The pressure cooker bombs found at the 23rd Street and 27th Street locations in Manhattan contained the homemade explosive hexamethylene triperoxide diamine, or HMTD, according to law enforcement officials. It is a highly unstable explosive similar to TATP, used in the 2005 London bombings.

Rahami's wife left the United States a few days before this weekend's bombings, and US officials want to speak with her, a law enforcement official said on condition of anonymity.
The official didn't provide details about her travels but said authorities are working with officials in Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates to gain access to her.
Her timeline in the United States wasn't immediately clear. Rahami had tried earlier this decade to petition to bring his wife to the United States from Pakistan, though it wasn't clear when he succeeded.
A law enforcement official told CNN that Rahami filed the paperwork in 2011, and it was approved in 2012.
Then, in 2014, Rahami contacted the office of US Rep. Albio Sires, D-New Jersey, from Islamabad, Pakistan, saying he was concerned about his wife's passport and visa. It turned out her Pakistani passport had expired and the consulate wouldn't give her an immigrant visa until the passport was renewed, Sires said.
Once the passport was renewed, she found out she was pregnant, and officials told her they wouldn't give a visa until she had the baby, Sires said. They also told her when she had the baby they had to get an immigrant visa for the baby.
At that point, Rahami claims the consulate told him to go back to Karachi, Pakistan, but he claimed it was too dangerous to go there. The congressman doesn't know what happened after that.
 
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