the end of Santa Claus
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CelticRose
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Celebrating Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ; right?
I'm a pagan yet I respect others their right to seek their own connection with Our Creator. I respect those whos' belief is that there is no greater power.
However I would think that a primary reason 'Bama-man Hussein does not celebrate Christmas or allow it to be celebrated is because he is not a Christain.
Obviously he's not celebrating Christmas because of a disdain for material things. He lives in a million dollar home And nothing in his demeanor nor that of his spouse indicates a disdain for material possessions or gaining as much materialwealth as they can.
So, then, is 'Bama-man a closet atheist?
Or is he, in fact, a Muslim?
I'm a pagan yet I respect others their right to seek their own connection with Our Creator. I respect those whos' belief is that there is no greater power.
However I would think that a primary reason 'Bama-man Hussein does not celebrate Christmas or allow it to be celebrated is because he is not a Christain.
Obviously he's not celebrating Christmas because of a disdain for material things. He lives in a million dollar home And nothing in his demeanor nor that of his spouse indicates a disdain for material possessions or gaining as much materialwealth as they can.
So, then, is 'Bama-man a closet atheist?
Or is he, in fact, a Muslim?
CanadianGuy
Veteran Member
we have a winner!!From other sources on the internet he doesn't allow birthday presents either.
http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/08/21/if-obama-is-a-christian-why-doesnt-he-celebrate-christmas/
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http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/08/21/if-obama-is-a-christian-why-doesnt-he-celebrate-christmas/
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BL225128
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SouthernGal
"Don't retreat...reload"
Of course he doesn't. He's a muslim.
Comment seconded. Motion carried...
Lone Eagle Woman
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Yes do agree with others here that Obama not celebrating Christmas is because he is a Muslim! BINGO!
Kalliope
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Which is perfectly in line with mainline muzzie practice.
and 7th Day Adventists - so?
seven.sixtwo
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GREAT! now i need a baby Chicago thug politician for my manger this year!!!!
This with all the other information on him make me goeven more!
and they dont even have a DOG!
How UN-American is that!!!!!!
) maybe that did it for him.....
CelticRose
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and they dont even have a DOG!
How UN-American is that!!!!!!
As a person who has dogs and has had pets of all sorts, with fins, feathers, felines and reptiles, I'd like to add this...........
None of the people I've known as friends or co-workers or neighbors who are Muslim, had had dogs as pets. the reason they gave me was that their religion considered dogs as unclean. They could and did have cats as pets because Mohmmed kept cats and they were considered to be 'beloved by him'.
Fred's Horseradish
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NO! Jehovah's Witnesses.
NoName
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I like to think it's because a dog can see past the person to their inner soul..if they have one.
CelticRose
Membership Revoked
Touche'!
MtnGal
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The couple explained that they spend "hundreds" on birthday slumber parties and want to "teach some limits". Santa Claus is still permitted to deliver seasonal gifts however.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...s-not-give-birthday-presents-to-children.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...s-not-give-birthday-presents-to-children.html
BL225128
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Yes, but 7th Day Adventists do not, as a routine matter, espouse and support murdering and slaughter of non-7th Day Adventists as a cornerstone of their theology.
Your analogy is as usual, flawed.
Phlatulance
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Seems like a good time for this. 
No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.
There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn’t (appear) to handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total — 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that is 91.9 million homes. One presumes there’s at least one good child in each.
Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75½ million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.
This means that Santa’s sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest manmade vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second — a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.
The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1) could pull TEN times their normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload — not even counting the weight of the sleigh — to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison — this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.
353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance — this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth’s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer with absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.
In conclusion — If Santa can pull that off, even the Borg are no match for him.
No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.
There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn’t (appear) to handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total — 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that is 91.9 million homes. One presumes there’s at least one good child in each.
Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75½ million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.
This means that Santa’s sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest manmade vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second — a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.
The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1) could pull TEN times their normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload — not even counting the weight of the sleigh — to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison — this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.
353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance — this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth’s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer with absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.
In conclusion — If Santa can pull that off, even the Borg are no match for him.
Seems like a good time for this.
No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.
There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn’t (appear) to handle Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total — 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that is 91.9 million homes. One presumes there’s at least one good child in each.
Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75½ million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.
This means that Santa’s sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest manmade vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second — a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.
The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see point #1) could pull TEN times their normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload — not even counting the weight of the sleigh — to 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison — this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.
353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance — this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth’s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer with absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.
In conclusion — If Santa can pull that off, even the Borg are no match for him.
HO HO HO
Terriannie
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I am amazed to hear this black preacher speak out so much against Obama or as he puts it, "That long legged Tarzan!" 
I was curious about the church he attended, then ditched and whether or not they celebrated Christmas. Not that this is the best source but it seems that they may not.
What a description....Tarzan or Pilgrim who or what is Obama? I'm still leaning "Muslim."
I was curious about the church he attended, then ditched and whether or not they celebrated Christmas. Not that this is the best source but it seems that they may not.
What a description....Tarzan or Pilgrim who or what is Obama? I'm still leaning "Muslim."
Rev Manning from Red Springs North Carolina who Went to NY, and is the Church of God Minister that is busy bashing Obama 'the Bi-Racial Tarzan' candidate.
Doing a great job as a leader and a minister and a teacher, as every word Manning speaks is Bible based or historically truth.......but in a very Southern Negro Old School sorta way. Manning can only do that because where he came from, Robeson County NC, is 1/3 black, 1/3 white, and 1/3 Indian and very much the Bible belt with a few backsliders.
Amberglass
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I almost didn't open this thread. There is so much going on I was just by passing it thinking it was just Santa stuff.
I think it is important information.
Susan maybe you should change the title, give viewers an idea that it is about Obama and his Christmas views..
Thanks for posting this by the way...very interesting.
I think it is important information.
Susan maybe you should change the title, give viewers an idea that it is about Obama and his Christmas views..
Thanks for posting this by the way...very interesting.
Terriannie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thanks NC Susan. I liked the way Rev. Manning spoke with conviction and a true love of Jesus and sent out the alarm. Obama himself can't stop Christmas but his influence and non defense will allow the PC anti-Christian lawmakers do the dirty deed for him.
Sure wish someone would walk right up and give his two girls a cute little PUPPY all tied up with a big red bow for a CHRISTMAS PRESENT right in front of a reporter. I wonder if he would shriek as if someone handed them a pig??
Sure wish someone would walk right up and give his two girls a cute little PUPPY all tied up with a big red bow for a CHRISTMAS PRESENT right in front of a reporter. I wonder if he would shriek as if someone handed them a pig??
What is the big deal about christmas?It is not biblical:1)Jesus was not born in december.2)The bible said we should not observe days,months,years(gal 4::10),these are of the law.If someone does not observe any day as special before God then what is wrong with it?It is scriptural.The way christians are going about Obama,they might make him turn hard against them even if was not his original intention.
Your confusion about Christmas notwithstanding, you may be right about Obama.
Revelation 13:7-8 (NASB)
7 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.
ontheright
TROPIC LIGHTNING GO 25th
TARZAN
Which also means he is a huge liar. Neither of these truths are a big surprise to most but should be extremely concerning to others who may be just waking up to their new reality.
fruit loop
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He belongs to the United Church of Christ, which is a very liberal denomination, and similar in many ways to my evangelical Lutheran church. I believe they also use the Apostles and Nicene Creeds in their worship.
They accept anyone who wants to attend and have very liberal views on gays, women, etc.
They accept anyone who wants to attend and have very liberal views on gays, women, etc.
