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day late

money? whats that?
As many know, I'm a locksmith. I see people from every aspect of society, in trouble, on a daily basis. Recently, there has been a change that I think folks need a heads-up about. It works like this;

Welfare recipients get 'Apple Pay' cards to take care of their needs. They can use them to pay for our services, among other things. Recently, there has been a problem with that. The best example I can give is what happened yesterday. I traveled 40 minutes out of town to open an apartment. The lady wants to pay me, but her card doesn't have enough money left on it to pay me. She was supposed to receive a new card five days, now six days, ago. There is no card in her mailbox. She calls her sister to use her card. Same problem. She asks her sister to check her mailbox for the card. Only bad luck. She calls Mom. Same story. No money on her card and no new card for anybody in the box. Thankfully, Mom had a credit card that worked, and I got paid.

The point is that the 'Apple Pay' cards are late. Maybe the usual gov. snafu, maybe something more. The fact is these are the people who have the least to lose and the most to gain. And hunger can make you do all kinds of strange things to fill that empty spot below the ribs. (Ask me how I know.) This problem is not widespread at the moment, but it is increasing. If it continues like this, it won't be long before hungry people start taking what they need, without regard to ownership.

I would advise checking and tightening security, starting TODAY!!! If this keeps going, it's gonna get ugly, real fast.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Could it be they just lied and they were just 1 week in on that card and was stretching the ‘checks in the mail’ updated to ‘the cards late?’

Not saying for sure just wondering.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Not necessarily.

Could just be the further breakdown --not of finances-- but of the USPS.

I have no love for John Ossoff--but did you see him GRILLING the US Postmaster General, esp when he said he'd get the postal service problems corrected in "3 to 6 MONTHS"!

Article below is from March 5 but this is STILL going on, and is affecting mail in the entire Metro Atlanta area:

Metro Atlanta residents not getting their mail due to delays at USPS facility​


These postal customers are also complaining that their packages can't be traced at all.


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Published: 10:42 PM EST March 5, 2024

Updated: 5:29 PM EST March 6, 2024



ATLANTA — Some metro Atlanta residents are looking for their mail, but there's one big problem -- it's either late or, worse, not showing up at all.

These postal customers are also complaining that their packages can't be traced at all. They said these issues are centered around one postal facility in Palmetto -- which is located mostly in Fulton County but also partly in Coweta County.



From paychecks and legal documents to mail of all types, customers from Lithia Springs, Kennesaw, Marietta, and other cities reached out to 11Alive about their mail being delayed, but there still aren't any answers as to why.

Trapped in transit, United States Postal Office (USPS) customers across metro Atlanta are anxiously awaiting packages they're not sure will ever arrive -- including Patrick Gerard, who owns the Kennesaw publishing company Ah. P. Meme.

"I'm a small comic book publisher and I do a lot of collectives on eBay -- buying and selling," he said.

He said four of his packages are somewhere behind the walls of the Palmetto postal facility, according to his tracking records. So, for now, he had to freeze his clients' comic book orders.

"I paused all selling until I know that the postal service is working again," Gerard said.

Even a customer from Marietta said she paid extra to mail a legal document, which included a two-day delivery. She said they told her the envelope was waiting to be processed in the Palmetto plant. Now, seven days later, the mail still hasn't been delivered.

"This delay is holding up an extremely important legal matter," she said.

At last check, a generated message pops up from the USPS website confirming there are processing delays in the area but doesn't say why.

USPS told 11Alive there was an incident at the Palmetto facility, but they said they couldn't go into details on what happened.


Editor's note: This story has been updated to clarify that the issue appears to be centered at a USPS facility, and not an actual post office.
 

Donner9x

Thread Killer :-)
This may be related, maybe not, as it is regarding state and not federal. But several months ago our company in Ohio laid off about a dozen people, and they all started unemployment. One of the guys I know who was laid off had registered with unemployment, and part of the procedure in registering is several layers of identity security, and one of the 2-step processes allows you to choose an app to use for the process. So he chooses the "IBM Verify" app, and uses that every time to log onto his account.

Trying to make a long story short, everything goes fine for several weeks until he has to replace his cell phone due to battery issues. He does so, transfers all apps and data from old phone to new, as far as he knows everything on his phone is working fine. Until he goes to make his weekly claim, and finds out that the app quit working, needs to be reconnected to the account, consequently he can't access his account, nor apply for his weekly claims.

Ever since that day, he has tried every means they have available to ask for help. Filled out online forms, waited on the phone thru a long tedious process of automated messages, only to be told each time that they've already reached their maximum allotment of calls for the day, and to call back tomorrow - and on and on and on it goes. He's also tried to start from scratch and create a new ID, but it just goes around in circles and tells him it can't verify him, and he needs to contact them at their phone number for help, which he does, and round and round he goes again with no answer and no help. It''s been 2 weeks and no one has contacted him, and he can get no response.

Seems like they are happy enough to let the guy hang out there and save them some money paying unemployment.

He's old enough he's just considering going ahead and retiring and forgetting the whole thing, which may be what he does. But if you're in that situation, don't lose your ability to connect to your account, or need their help for any other reason, or you may be dead in the water.
 

day late

money? whats that?
Could it be they just lied and they were just 1 week in on that card and was stretching the ‘checks in the mail’ updated to ‘the cards late?’

Not saying for sure just wondering.

Fair question. If it were just one or two, I would suspect it is just people trying to get out of paying the bill. That happens all the time. But this is more widespread than just one or two people trying to get something for nothing. This lady was honest. She was desperately trying to pay me. The money just wasn't there.
 

Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
Looking back as fr as 5 years I can pinpoint certain postal facilities that have track records of 'losing' packages. One was a way point in IL that had a well-known record of losing OTC products packages from CVS Pharmacy. The local PO could track them to that point, and the CVS fulfillment center said the same thing: that particular way-point swallowed packages regularly.

There is a location in TX that also has issues with theft en route. Even if not it can take up to 3 days for a package to pass from one end of the building to the other.

Normally we have very good service in our area, but occasionally packages will hit Sioux Falls (100 miles away), and then pass on to Des Moines (220 miles away), before coming back to Sioux City and out for delivery. It is almost like somebody can't read a map. And yes, I know it is Zip Code oriented. Maff is hard and all that.

RR
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Fair question. If it were just one or two, I would suspect it is just people trying to get out of paying the bill. That happens all the time. But this is more widespread than just one or two people trying to get something for nothing. This lady was honest. She was desperately trying to pay me. The money just wasn't there.
Your story has a couple of loose ends or bad explanations.

Usually such cards get “reloaded” with fresh digital dollars each month rather than new cards coming in the mail each month.

Don’t know which state you are in or what welfare “service” has contracted with Apple Pay but it seems a couple of relevant details are missing or incorrect.
 

et2

TB Fanatic
The new welfare aliens are from south of the border. Not enough to go around. Wait until they find out FJB lied to them.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Well, at least you know that when the banks fail, these folks won't be a problem.

They got no money in the banks to lose.

5D chess players over here.

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rob0126

Veteran Member
Speaking of the USPS:

I order my supplements online fairly frequently.

I few weeks ago, I put in an order and it shipped USPS.

Usually the packages arrive pretty fast, but not this time.

The package was delayed. A week goes by, and so I take a look to see where it's at.

According to the tracking on the package, it literally bounced between 3 facilities in 3 different towns, several times, and stayed in that loop.(N GA area)
Had to get the shipper to resend the product.

Btw, this was a split ship order, but the other half of it arrived ahead of time.

Never seen anything like it.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
Looking back as fr as 5 years I can pinpoint certain postal facilities that have track records of 'losing' packages. One was a way point in IL that had a well-known record of losing OTC products packages from CVS Pharmacy. The local PO could track them to that point, and the CVS fulfillment center said the same thing: that particular way-point swallowed packages regularly.

There is a location in TX that also has issues with theft en route. Even if not it can take up to 3 days for a package to pass from one end of the building to the other.

Normally we have very good service in our area, but occasionally packages will hit Sioux Falls (100 miles away), and then pass on to Des Moines (220 miles away), before coming back to Sioux City and out for delivery. It is almost like somebody can't read a map. And yes, I know it is Zip Code oriented. Maff is hard and all that.

RR
One in TN would steal guns that ended up going through there and the box would arrive to the customers with an equal weight of cat litter in a USPS taped up bag so the weight did not change during shipping. USPS stole more individual packages from our company than UPS, and Fedx combined. UPS tried to steal an entire case of AR lowers but when the ATF showed up where they went missing and threatened to shut the place down and search it, they were miraculously found. It was one case of lowers very well shrunk wrapped and all taped up on a pallet full of the same boxes so they could have tossed it off a truck and it would not have come off the pallet. A UPS employee friend told me that several higher ups just got busted trafficking fentanyl via UPS. They would have their minions mail it, then grab the package at the warehouse while it was being processed and deliver it to the real buyer. By by.
 

day late

money? whats that?
Your story has a couple of loose ends or bad explanations.

Usually such cards get “reloaded” with fresh digital dollars each month rather than new cards coming in the mail each month.

Don’t know which state you are in or what welfare “service” has contracted with Apple Pay but it seems a couple of relevant details are missing or incorrect.

I'll do my best to clear up what I can. First of all, I'm in Florida. Secondly, I have no idea how these cards work since I've never had need of them, nor the desire to learn. I do know the neighborhood was one of those government type projects. Two or three stories, four apartments per floor, two to four bedrooms, low rent. The lady did not say the card came from the government, but during conversation told me they come every month. Perhaps I assume incorrectly, but given the area, the number of people called for the same type card, and a few other things you pick up in just vibes, it is easy to see how I came to that idea. I hope this clears things up a bit.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
The downfall started on August 15, 1971.

Nixon threw the US off the "Gold Standard." Dollars no longer backed by gold and became a "fiat currency."

It was an act which was done without approval of ANYONE - simply an order from the Nixon White House. And probably done unconstitutionally since Bretton Woods WAS an agreement/treaty certified by Congress.

Google query: Was Bretton Woods Agreement ratified by Congress - ans. YES.
In July 1945, Congress passed the Bretton Woods Agreements Act, authorizing U.S. entry into the IMF and IBRD. The two organizations officially came into existence on December 27, 1945.

Bannon has implied that a return to the gold standard could be done just as easily by Trump - but would be accompanied by "weeping-wailing-gnashing of teeth" among Wall Street - confirming their fears of a Trump Administration.

Dobbin
 
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