ILL IMM THE BORDER SELL OUT TAKES SHAPE 2-3-2019

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Doomer Doug has been keeping his four eyes on, what the 1970's era comedy group, Firesign Theater, called "the rumors behind the news," related to the so called "border deal," now shaping up.

First, the government will not shut down on February 15th. The RINOS, et al have no stomach for any more government shutdown theater, and the Democrats have no stomach for it either. This means the dreaded "bipartisanship" now comes into play to provide a solution.

Second, well Rubio and Mitch the Bitch have OPENLY SAID Trump is likely to do a "deal," that includes border security funding, BUT DON'T CALL IT A WALL, in exchange for the JARED KUSHNER packaged deal that means a total of 1.8 MILLION DREAMERS, yep 1.8 million Dreamers will be granted citizenship, and the right to vote Marxist Democrat for the next three decades or more.

Third, this is all happening in the context of getting Jeff Sessions 2, ie Barr, confirmed as another Deep State Attorney General, which means that ole rule of law, and equality under the law, and accountability under the law, is just a quaint view held by the "old dead white guys," that wrote the US Constitution. Ergo, the Deep State has now clearly won, for the simple reason that NOT ONE SINGLE FEDERAL OFFICIAL, IN ANY AGENCY, AND FOR ANY REASON WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER BE TAKEN BEFORE A GRAND JURY. THE RULE OF LAW HERE IN THE USA IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. I have said, and I will say it yet again, nothing will be done about the DNC server TREASON, or the Clinton Foundation, or the Clinton Email server, or Benghazzi, and Clinton sending weapons to fund terrorists in Syria, or well, the list is loooooooong at this point. Take that Q and smoke it up where the sun don't shine. :kaid:
So, gang you should all prepare yourself for some kind of smoke and mirrors, ie spin control, related to the sequential, final nail in the coffin of the US Republic related to first 1.8 million Dreamers, followed by family chain, and amnesty for an additional 11 million, followed by an additional 30 million, and finally, all the final 30 million, which gives us the total of 60 to 75 million illegals now living in the USA.

The so call "gang of 8," which pushed the amnesty, they never called an amnesty, will win this time.

IN RETURN FOR SOME KIND OF BORDER SECURITY FUNDING, WITH NO MONEY, MUCH LESS NO WALL BEING BUILT, TRUMP, THE RINOS, LIKE RUBIO AND MITCH THE BITCH ARE GOING TO ADD OVER 10 TO 50 MILLION ADDITIONAL ILLEGAL DEMOCRAT VOTERS, AS PART OF THE BIPARTISAN, AVOID ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN ETC.

It really is all over. Trump had his shot and he blew it. Trump allowed globalist shills like Jared Kushner, Rubio and Mitch the Bitch to define his immigration policy.

So, on the 15th, we will see breathless announcements that a "path forward on immigration," and a "bipartisan compromise" has been reached, and "money for border security has been funded," in return for ALL the DREAMERS getting citizenship, yada yada

Watch and see what happens.

The link is here

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article225392700.html


Democrats ready to deal on border barrier — just not a ‘wall’

By David Lightman

February 01, 2019 12:52 PM

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article225392700.html#storylink=cpy

Washington

Jim Clyburn wants to call his border security plan a wall, even though it’s really not.

Clyburn, the third-ranking House Democrat, is proposing what he calls a “smart wall,” a border security strategy that uses technology, not concrete.

The South Carolina congressman explained his “wall” would involve drones, scanners, and sensors “to create a technological barrier too high to climb over, too wide to go around, and too deep to burrow under.”

His terminology matters because Democrats have signaled they’re willing to make a deal on border security that, at least rhetorically, would include some sort of barrier.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
DD, it was Franklin who said a Democracy was when two sheep and wolf were voting on what to have for dinner.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
Yep I agree we are screwed for sure.

All that is left for us true americans who believe in the rule of law is bullets, IMHO............
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
We will see, won't we. How many times have people jumped Trump, only to be astonished later. I'm not going to go there yet. Is it plausible? Of course.
There's another plot or two that could play out. It's like an intermission, take a pee, grab a beer and come back for the next set. It is all theatre, God's grand plan in technicolor....and he's not racist.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
DD, you might well be correct. Right now, I think Trump will do his best to shut down the gov't again. It's a power play. I reserve the right to change my mind after I see the SOTU on Tuesday. I think he'll clearly signal what he's going to do then.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Watch and see what happens.

Of course, as always. But I will be D O N E watching (and waiting) very soon, and likely off the choochoo pretty soon too the way things are looking.

Doug, that little shotgun may turn out to be the only "wall" you get.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Hmm, Trump has been hogtied by his RINOS for all the time he has been POTUS. Even though Lying Ryan is now gone, he screwed us good. And now Mitch the Bitch, Rubio, and the others, Collins, Graham etc are pushing the Jared Kushner, globalist open borders, full amnesty agenda, which is nothing new of course, the stench of sellout is now overwhelming.

I am seeing some signs Trump finally gets it, but they are matched by his listening to Jared Kusher on illegal immigration. The RINOS are all talking about compromise, which always means sellout. I hope Trump declares a state of border emergency and moves/bypasses the feckless RINOS and Marxist Democrats. I am sure he won't be able to shut down the government again.

Here are some links that may indicate Trump is finally moving on border security. The videos are impressive.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/br...ern-border-a-precursor-to-national-emergency/

BOOM! Massive Military Exercise At Southern Border – Precursor To National Emergency?

Posted by Kane on February 2, 2019 12:11 am
Categories: Breaking

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/excited-border-patrol-officer-the-military-is-arriving/

Excited Border Patrol Officer – ‘The Big Guns Have Arrived! Armored Humvees With Mounted .50 Caliber’

Posted by Kane on February 2, 2019 12:10 am
Categories: Breaking
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
THE BORDER SELL OUT TAKES SHAPE 2-3-2019

With all due respect....your predictions have been less than stellar in the past. I don't make predictions because I don't like eating crow. I suggest we wait and see what happens. You might be right this time but then again you might not.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I posted on another thread (yesterday? Day before that?) a lot of info about how Trump can use mil funds legally, and may already be doing so. An offiicial from the DoD testified very recently about this, that Trump can legally build any kind of barriers necessary without Congress authorizing the actions or giving a penny for it.

Trump is getting the Dems to reveal to the universe that they are the party of Crime, Sex Slavery, Drugs, Lawlessness and No Border Sercurity. Meanwhile, work on walls goes on!

10 U.S.C. § 2803 (Section 2803) provides that the secretary of Defense ‘may carry out a military construction project not otherwise authorized by law’ upon determining that (1) ‘the project is vital to the national security or to the protection of health, safety, or the quality of the environment,’ and (2) ‘the requirement for the project is so urgent that’ deferring the project ‘would be inconsistent with national security or the protection of health, safety, or environmental quality.

10 U.S.C. § 284 (Section 284) provides that the secretary of Defense ‘may provide support for the counterdrug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime’ of any law enforcement agency, including through the construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States.



From a thread on FR. Lots of stuff.

What the mainstream media won't show you: The Border Wall IS Being Built...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3724777/posts


Fake Book 11 minute video non-FB denizens can watch.

https://www.facebook.com/MilneNews/videos/597167657374958/?t=50

From the rest of the FR thread:
San Diego/Tijuana Primary Barrier near the Prototypes (Eastern Flank)

Before President Trump:

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After President Trump:

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Starting this month (Feb), a second, taller (30 foot) bollard barrier begins construction 150 feet behind this new one. The enforcement zone (no man's land) between the barriers will have high speed patrol road for Border Patrol response, be lighted at night, under 24 hour video surveillance, and be alarmed with hidden sensors (essentially 100% detection). San Diego's border will be effectively closed by Christmas.

People asking about the steel bollards rusting already, lot of info on this type of steel:

It’s called weathering steel or CorTen. Controlled surface rusting to create a protective tube coat. Used on bridges and marine environments. Really effective in arid climates.

That is a special steel. The oxidation layer is very thin and hard and protects the rest of the structure. Does not need painting. Many highway bridges are made out of it.

CorTen is a trade name for a steel alloy material originally produced by United States Steel.
Corten is a weathering steel. This material is a corrosion resistant steel, that left uncoated develops an outer layer patina. This patina protects the steel from additional corrosion. It is a high strength steel alloy, and it is used where higher strength and longer life cycle material are desired. Especially in situations where untreated alloys are desired. Alternately spelled as Cor 10.

As Cor-Ten became more popular over the years other producing mills began to develop their own atmospheric corrosion resistant weathering steels. ASTM stepped in and created what is considered equivalent specifications to Cor-Ten® in most applications.

The applicable equivalent ASTM specifications are ASTM A588, A242, A606-4, A847 and A709-50W, which Central Steel Service supplies in various products including, sheet, coil, plate, steel flats, angles, channels, pipe & tube

CorTen Steel (CORrosion-Resistant, TENsile Strength).

Not just protected from weathering, but also providing exceptional mechanical resistance.

These bollards are filled with concrete after they set in their foundations, for several reasons (the steel bollard protects the concrete from hammer, chisel or sledge attacks). Concrete filling keeps rain water out, to limit destructive rusting. It provides a lot of added mass, that improves performance against being rammed by vehicles (they will stop speeding suicide trucks).

It also complicates sawing through the bollards. Extra lengths of rebar with different properties can be dropped down the bollards (or every other one) to further challenge the saw blade.

Last April in New Mexico:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...rvid=A2F2363ADBE3FDA22D8EA2F2363ADBE3FDA22D8E

Many, many videos at Bing link, here's the top one:

Building the Border Wall
2:49

20 miles of new bollards completed, heading West from El Paso, TX:

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Four miles completed in downtown El Paso, TX:

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West side of the Calexico, CA Port of Entry complete (East side starts in April). This segment led the Nation in attacks on Border Patrol officers - after the new bollards, it is quiet:
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14 new segments have just been awarded in the last few months - 2019 will be a lot busier than last year.

New construction is scheduled to begin this month (Feb 2019) in several locations.


More from New Mexico Replacement of barriers to stop autos not people"

New Border wall construction zone Santa Teresa New Mexico 2018

7:27

Check out this activity at the border:
U.S. Customs and Border Protection Officers conduct Military Exercise
3:10
Border Patrol Off. Thanks President Trump for sending reinforcements to Arizona Border
2:20

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing all the contract management for the border wall. They developed two large standing multiple award task order contracts (MATOCs) to support the Project Office:

(A Western one) W9126G18R0096 MATOC for Horizontal Construction Services in support of the San Diego, El Centro, Yuma, and Tucson Border Patrol Sectors.

(And an Eastern one) W9126G18R0092 MATOC for Horizontal Construction Services in support of the Rio Grande Valley, Laredo, Del Rio, Big Bend and El Paso Border Patrol Sectors.

A pool of vendors have been pre-qualified to participate in these contracts, to use a rapid bidding process to compete on task orders for individual segments of wall.

Those vendors have been brought up to speed on the Master Project Management Plan - the exact route, the design requirements and specifications; and they have a very good idea of the priority list. So they are ready to bid pretty quickly when an individual segment comes up for bid.

This Program is ready for the big money bomb. Everyone is ready to ramp up construction now - just add money.

Warning, annoying music:
Drone footage taken in New Mexico of Border Wall being built in Summer 2018:
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new border wall.santa teresa new mexico,by drone

Drone footage from Summer 2018 of Border Wall being built in Calexico, California:
3:32
new border wall calexico california


Here is the blow by blow:

San Diego, California 14 miles of 18 foot bollards with anti-climb plate are being built (~10 miles complete), due to finish by May. FY 2017 appropriations. The $147 million contract for this project was awarded to SLSCO, a Texas-based construction corporation.

A second 14 mile layer of 30 foot bollards has been awarded, and will start February 2019. The contract was awarded on December 20, 2018 to SLSCO Ltd. using CBP’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2018 appropriations. The total contract value, including options, is approximately $287 million (and includes the 15 miles below in Tecate, Andrade and Calexico).

Tecate, California 3 miles of 30 foot bollards contract awarded, should start early 2019.

Andrade, California One mile of 30 foot bollards (one side of the Port of Entry), contract awarded, should start early 2019.

Calexico, California 2.25 miles of 30 foot bollards West of the Port of Entry, completed. FY 2017 appropriations, about $18 million.

11 miles of 30 foot bollards East of the Port of Entry, contract awarded, work to start in the Spring (FY18, included above).

Yuma, AZ 27 miles, Contract awarded, construction is scheduled to begin in April 2019. Fiscal Year 2018 appropriations awarded on November 13, 2018 to Barnard Construction Company, Inc. for the base contract of $172 million for approximately 14 miles (13 Option miles, plus 5 miles in Lukeville, below). Total contract value, including options, is approximately $324 million.

Lukeville, AZ 5 miles Contract awarded, construction is scheduled to begin in April 2019.

Santa Teresa, NM (Western flank/suburb of El Paso) 20 miles of 18 foot bollards with anti-climb plate. Complete. CBP awarded a construction contract January 22 to Barnard Construction of Bozeman, Montana. FY 2017 appropriations. The project cost is approximately $73.3 million.

El Paso, Texas 4 miles of 18 bollards with anti climb plate East from the Port of Entry to Fonseca Drive. Complete. CBP awarded a construction contract June 1, 2018 to West Point Contractors of Tucson, FY 2017 appropriations, 22 million.

Mission, Texas (Western Flank of McAllen Port of Entry) 8 miles of hurricane rated levee wall system, topped with 18 foot bollards. Contract awarded, construction is scheduled to begin in February 2019. This is the area with many of the test cases that were pursuing legal challenges (La Lomita Chapel, National Butterfly Center Ray Anzalduas). (FY) 2018 appropriations. The contract for this project, referred to by CBP as RGV-02, was awarded on November 11, 2018, to SLSCO in the amount of approximately $167M.

Donna/Weslaco, Texas, (Eastern flank of McAllen metro area, East of the Santa Ana Reserve) 6 miles of hurricane rated levee wall system, topped with 18 foot bollards. Contract awarded, construction is scheduled to begin in February 2019. (FY) 2018 appropriation. The contract for this project, referred to by CBP as RGV-03, awarded on October 31, 2018 to SLSCO Ltd in the amount of $145 Million for construction.

Brownsville, Tx Area 7 (with an option for 4 more) automated gates to be constructed, to begin closing the 35 road gaps left in the area during the Bush-era Secure Fence Act barrier construction. (FY) 2017 appropriation. The contract for the first phase of gate construction was awarded on October 3, 2018 to Gideon Contracting, LLC, from San Antonio, Texas in the amount of $3,731,380 for the seven base gates. The contract includes options for four additional gates valued at $1,985,525.

All of this that has been put on contract so far during the Trump Administration totals 115 miles - probably what the President was referring to on Christmas Eve.

The pace of construction this year will be significantly higher than last. In 2018, 35 miles were built over four different segments. Already awarded for this year are 80 miles across thirteen segments (one of the Texas awards is composed of five separate segments).

But if the President gets a few billion, we will really be off to the races. The $5.7 billion he requested for 234 miles, would button up the the Rio Grande Valley, Laredo, and 75 more miles for the highest priority points on the border - where more than 2/3 of illegal immigrants now cross.

The 18 foot bollards with the anti-climb plates are roughly the high end of no-kill height. The plates defeat most climbers a few feet lower, while their feet are only about eight feet off the ground.

The 30 foot barriers will kill more than half of those who fall from near the tops.

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pirate

Inactive
nice presentation showing construction underway at southern border, many people could know the same...IF..we had a news organization that dealt in News....

DD, BTW.....Quote by Benjamin Franklin: “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb ...
 

sunny225

Membership Revoked
Most people who are awake and aware know who the bad guys are. The rest of them don't care...…….
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
Watch and see what happens.

Of course, as always. But I will be D O N E watching (and waiting) very soon, and likely off the choochoo pretty soon too the way things are looking.

Doug, that little shotgun may turn out to be the only "wall" you get.

So when you get off the "choochoo" what are your choices. I will stay with the one who I came to the dance with. I'm not ready to give up without a fight.
 

Captbill

Veteran Member
THE BORDER SELL OUT TAKES SHAPE 2-3-2019

With all due respect....your predictions have been less than stellar in the past. I don't make predictions because I don't like eating crow. I suggest we wait and see what happens. You might be right this time but then again you might not.

THIS!!!
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
So when you get off the "choochoo"

Off the Trump Train ….

Not doing anything else any different except going back to tuning out DeeCee. And getting some chickens finally.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
You’ll like the chickens....I’m having a good time with mine except they chit like a goose. Been doing pretty well in the subzero weather and still laying eggs all winter. They’re used to free ranging so I think that they are looking forward to spring as much as I am. Now if I can just break my Mal from sampling their droppings, stupid dog!
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
THE BORDER SELL OUT TAKES SHAPE? - Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it's not getting the press coverage or we're not. What do you think? - OGM

Build The Wall: Construction Progress

GOP
Published on Jan 12, 2019

120 miles of border wall has either been built, or will soon be under construction. It's time to give our border agents the resources they need to build the infrastructure they have asked for.

Link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-f6KkLJF9c

run time: 1:34
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
This is from back in April 11, 2018 well after the inauguration of President Trump.

Construction for new Texas border wall begins
1,373,501 views

CBS This Morning
Published on Apr 11, 2018
Attorney General Jeff Sessions travels to New Mexico today to speak with Southwest border sheriffs about immigration enforcement. The visit comes as crews break ground on a new section of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, west of El Paso. Manuel Bojorquez reports.

Link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL08sbhHzRA

Run time 2:42
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I'm wondering if President Trump is building the wall a little at a time in areas with more local support and less likely to get press coverage. Think the legacy media wants to take video in Texas 100+ degree heat while dodging rattle snakes and scorpions? This way he gets it done and saves the big fights for the areas with the most ardent opposition?

The man is dumb like a fox.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I'm wondering if President Trump is building the wall a little at a time in areas with more local support and less likely to get press coverage. Think the legacy media wants to take video in Texas 100+ degree heat while dodging rattle snakes and scorpions? This way he gets it done and saves the big fights for the areas with the most ardent opposition?

The man is dumb like a fox.

Did you read what I posted above?
 

Elza

Veteran Member
I just have one question. What good is a wall if they're going to give amnesty to half of Mexico? Isn't that rather like locking the barn after after the horse is already gone?
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Some of those sections do look 10 ft higher.
Some are. One article said they are putting a lower wall up first and a higher (30 ft) one behind it with an access road between. The 10 foot fence replacing in some areas a barbed wire fence that looked like it'd have trouble containing cattle. If you look in some of the posted videos by Be well's you can see remnants of the old barbed wire fence laying just beyond the new bollard fence.

One article states: the fall from 30 feet may kill half of those jumping to the ground from that height. If they don't die from the fall they'll most likely be injured. In some of the more remote areas if the border patrol doesn't find them or chooses not to it would still be a death sentence. Self limiting?
 
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Altura Ct.

Veteran Member
Watch and see what happens.


That's the bottom line. What actually happens? Talk is cheap whether it is coming from Trump or elsewhere.

in addition the time for talking is past and all this talking does nothing but allow for the invasion to continue. It has been talked about to death. We have been talking about this for YEARS.
 

BH

. . . .
I just have one question. What good is a wall if they're going to give amnesty to half of Mexico? Isn't that rather like locking the barn after after the horse is already gone?

By they I assume you are talking 2/3 of Senate and 2/3 of the House, because that is what it will take
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
That's the bottom line. What actually happens? Talk is cheap whether it is coming from Trump or elsewhere.

in addition the time for talking is past and all this talking does nothing but allow for the invasion to continue. It has been talked about to death. We have been talking about this for YEARS.

^^^TRUTH in 200 point font^^^

stop this INVASION - like you're constitutionally PRE-AUTHORIZED to do - or get out of the way and let willing American Patriots do the job of protecting our borders themselves - something our military SHOULD be doing RIGHT NOW​
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
get out of the way

And how likely is the "indispensable government" going to be to just step aside?

IF you want your country back at this point, you will have to TAKE IT - by force, with blood and steel - from EVERYONE who stakes a claim to it. And that will be a tall order. I am no longer sure it is possible.
 
A lot of you are not going to like this info, but the writer is a true patriot who is trying to do his part to fight this invasion problem. I have heard him, on the Rense show, a few times...he is a real fighter for this cause, with his organization, Alipac.

I'd like to add that I've also been listening to a radio show telling that an invasion of foreigners, not just Central Americans, is planning on invading us up through our border. The UN is also involved...it is NOT our friend! MMJ


https://www.alipac.us/f8/trump-lets-caravan-illegals-into-usa-inspiring-more-caravans-form-369614/

Trump Lets Caravan Illegals Into USA, Inspiring More Caravans to Form
February 1, 2019

by William Gheen
President of ALIPAC
www.alipac.us

Most Trump voters believe that President Donald Trump has stopped the illegal alien caravans at America's borders to keep asylum seekers in Mexico through orders to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees our Border Patrol and ICE agents.

Unfortunately, this is not true and fits into the pattern of many false promises and statements emanating from Donald Trump and the White House on immigration issues.

At this time, the Trump administration is continuing the costly and deadly Catch and Release program by which illegals are simply given tickets to appear at future court dates in the jurisdiction of their choosing. It should be no shock to anyone that the vast majority never show up in court, are not tracked or locatable, and are never deported after being handed such a worthless ticket.

There are reports that illegal aliens are now starting to complain about how long it takes our Border Patrol to pick them up from the point where the drug traffickers drop them off. Illegal aliens look forward to being "apprehended" by US Border Patrol because, within a few days, they will be clean, dressed in clean clothes, fed, medicated, and transported inland in air-conditioned taxpayer-funded DHS buses under President Trump's control to be dropped off at invasion supporting churches in Phoenix, AZ, and San Diego, CA.

If you don't want to believe this because you heard President Trump promise these illegals would not be allowed into America, we have news reports from Phoenix and San Diego that prove it.

Videos From Patriots of Trump's DHS Buses Dropping off Illegals

While Trump and the Mexican officials did briefly stall the caravans in Mexico to prevent the optics of them tearing through our border patrol checkpoints and triumphantly marching into conquered America, Breitbart News started reporting on November 14, 2018, that Mexican federal police started escorting these caravan illegal aliens to our border for processing. The reports indicated that 60-100 illegal aliens per day were being processed into the USA.

Then came the videos from outraged patriots on the ground--

Videos filmed by Patriots Movement AZ

Friday Jan 25, 2019
DHS buses dropping hundreds more illegal aliens into our city (CLICK TO VIEW)

Jan 5, 2019
More Dept of Homeland Security buses dropping off hundreds of illegal border hoppers who screamed asylum and have been released in our community while they wait years to be denied asylum. (CLICK TO VIEW)

Trump Duplicity On Display
The facts documented in these articles and videos, that illegal immigrants in the caravans are receiving the red carpet treatment into the USA after they are forced to wait briefly in Mexico so as to decrease the alarm level of outraged US citizens, directly contradict what Trump tells the media and the public!

On November 22, 2018, Bradford Betz and Edmund DeMarche of Fox News reported, "Asylum seekers will have to wait in Mexico as cases are processed under new plan." Their report was based on a Washington Post story which cited "internal planning documents" and three unnamed officials in the Department of Homeland Security. And while the DHS said they had no immediate plans to implement this leaked report, the misleading Fox News headlines were still waved in the faces of Trump voters.

But then Trump stepped in to bolster this false belief with his own words on December 11, 2018, as reported by Breitbart's Charlie Sperling in "Donald Trump Claims Victory over Caravan Migrants; Demands Wall."

The article reports:
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"President Donald Trump asserted Tuesday that border enforcement agents had successfully turned back the caravans of migrants trying to enter the United States, despite reports of increased illegal border crossings.

“Despite the large Caravans that WERE forming and heading to our Country, people have not been able to get through our newly built Walls, makeshift Walls & Fences, or Border Patrol Officers & Military,” Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump Lets Caravan Illegals Into USA, Inspiring More Caravans to Form

February 1, 2019

by William Gheen
President of ALIPAC
www.alipac.us

Most Trump voters believe that President Donald Trump has stopped the illegal alien caravans at America's borders to keep asylum seekers in Mexico through orders to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees our Border Patrol and ICE agents.

Unfortunately, this is not true and fits into the pattern of many false promises and statements emanating from Donald Trump and the White House on immigration issues.

At this time, the Trump administration is continuing the costly and deadly Catch and Release program by which illegals are simply given tickets to appear at future court dates in the jurisdiction of their choosing. It should be no shock to anyone that the vast majority never show up in court, are not tracked or locatable, and are never deported after being handed such a worthless ticket.

There are reports that illegal aliens are now starting to complain about how long it takes our Border Patrol to pick them up from the point where the drug traffickers drop them off. Illegal aliens look forward to being "apprehended" by US Border Patrol because, within a few days, they will be clean, dressed in clean clothes, fed, medicated, and transported inland in air-conditioned taxpayer-funded DHS buses under President Trump's control to be dropped off at invasion supporting churches in Phoenix, AZ, and San Diego, CA.

If you don't want to believe this because you heard President Trump promise these illegals would not be allowed into America, we have news reports from Phoenix and San Diego that prove it.

Videos From Patriots of Trump's DHS Buses Dropping off Illegals

While Trump and the Mexican officials did briefly stall the caravans in Mexico to prevent the optics of them tearing through our border patrol checkpoints and triumphantly marching into conquered America, Breitbart News started reporting on November 14, 2018, that Mexican federal police started escorting these caravan illegal aliens to our border for processing. The reports indicated that 60-100 illegal aliens per day were being processed into the USA.

Then came the videos from outraged patriots on the ground--

Videos filmed by Patriots Movement AZ

Friday Jan 25, 2019
DHS buses dropping hundreds more illegal aliens into our city (CLICK TO VIEW)

Jan 5, 2019
More Dept of Homeland Security buses dropping off hundreds of illegal border hoppers who screamed asylum and have been released in our community while they wait years to be denied asylum. (CLICK TO VIEW)

Trump Duplicity On Display

The facts documented in these articles and videos, that illegal immigrants in the caravans are receiving the red carpet treatment into the USA after they are forced to wait briefly in Mexico so as to decrease the alarm level of outraged US citizens, directly contradict what Trump tells the media and the public!

On November 22, 2018, Bradford Betz and Edmund DeMarche of Fox News reported, "Asylum seekers will have to wait in Mexico as cases are processed under new plan." Their report was based on a Washington Post story which cited "internal planning documents" and three unnamed officials in the Department of Homeland Security. And while the DHS said they had no immediate plans to implement this leaked report, the misleading Fox News headlines were still waved in the faces of Trump voters.

But then Trump stepped in to bolster this false belief with his own words on December 11, 2018, as reported by Breitbart's Charlie Sperling in "Donald Trump Claims Victory over Caravan Migrants; Demands Wall."

The article reports:

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"President Donald Trump asserted Tuesday that border enforcement agents had successfully turned back the caravans of migrants trying to enter the United States, despite reports of increased illegal border crossings.

“Despite the large Caravans that WERE forming and heading to our Country, people have not been able to get through our newly built Walls, makeshift Walls & Fences, or Border Patrol Officers & Military,” Trump wrote on Twitter.
In November 2018, there were nearly 52,000 border crossings on the southern border, the highest number of illegal immigrants in the month of November since 2006.
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Trump highlighted reports that some of the caravan migrants were accepting work in Mexico as they waited for their chance to enter the United States.
“They are now staying in Mexico or going back to their original countries,” he wrote. “Ice, Border Patrol, and our Military have done a FANTASTIC job of securing our Southern Border.”
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Trump argued that the border was “secure” despite reports claiming the opposite.
“Our Southern Border is now Secure and will remain that way,” he wrote. “I look forward to my meeting with Chuck Schumer & Nancy Pelosi.”
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To be honest, these claims shocked many of our ALIPAC volunteer activists and researchers at www.ALIPAC.us who monitor these issues closely.

At one point our research team caught Trump flat out lying on Twitter about the first two caravans he let it. (Review) The following Tweet is false unless by "stopped" Trump means "Stopped at the border briefly before we let thim enter in small groups."

Trump Tweet 9:09 AM - 19 Jan 2019 (View Tweet at Source)
Mexico is doing NOTHING to stop the Caravan which is now fully formed and heading to the United States. We stopped the last two - many are still in Mexico but can’t get through our Wall, but it takes a lot of Border Agents if there is no Wall. Not easy!

The border is obviously not secured; illegals are pouring in at historic levels, encouraged by Trump's Amnesty pushes and inaction on real border security. The caravan illegal aliens are obviously not being kept in Mexico, according to Facebook Go Live videos and numerous news reports.

Trump's statements were obviously detached from reality either intentionally or unintentionally, and if by mistake, how could the President of the United States be so wrong on such an important matter like the invasion of America?

The problem and disparities were further confirmed Jan 6, 2019, when Kate Morrissey of the San Diego Tribune reported, "Two weeks later, no sign of 'Remain in Mexico' policy in action at San Ysidro Port of Entry."

Morrissey reports, "More than two weeks after the Trump administration announced a new policy that would force asylum seekers to wait in Mexico for their turns in U.S. immigration court, there is no sign yet at the San Ysidro Port of Entry that it has been implemented."

More Duplicity from Trump Administration
The great roller coaster of what Trump says and promises versus what actually happens is not over yet. It appears the caravan illegals Trump said were not going to be let in are now going to be returned to Mexico.

But after the Trump administration recently announced that illegal alien asylum seekers who were not supposed to be let into the USA in the first place will now be returned, AFP News reports on Jan 29 that "US delays returning asylum seekers to Mexico" because Mexican officials deny they have agreed to any such deals, and get this--

It's illegal for asylum seekers to stay in Mexico while applying for asylum!

Honesty and consistency are the Answers

For the United States to be secure and prosperous, we must have honest leadership that keeps campaign promises and tells Americans the truth. The truth is what is missing from the media and government today, and while Trump campaigned as a "Truth Teller," his deeds have not matched his words.

If you are a concerned American reading the news in horror about the three new illegal alien caravans that have formed and are moving towards our southern border, please know they are coming because the others have mostly been allowed into America.

They have phoned home like E.T. and told friends and family in Mexico, Honduras, Panama, Brazil, China, Russia, and India that they were escorted into America by socialist and Zionist refugee aid support groups, the Mexican federal police, and the USA Border Patrol and Department of Homeland Security under the management of Donald J. Trump.

They are now cozy and secure in the socialist states of America where their food, housing, healthcare, education, and cell phones are all being paid for by American taxpayers and consumers!

No wall across our whole border would defend us from these practices and dishonest politicians.

Here is our national press release on this matter (View), please help us circulate this report and release to warn more Americans of the truth about our borders, politicians, and the illegal alien caravans.

"We know from prior Trump deployment of troops to our border that any soldiers sent to the border are under specific instructions not to engage, detain, or stop any illegal immigrants as Trump deceptively wants Americans to believe," explained William Gheen, President of ALIPAC. "While it is true Trump wants to stop large caravans from entering as a group and putting his open borders policies and hypocrisy on full display; Trump is allowing most of these illegal alien caravan members into the USA in small groups of around 100 per day. These latest caravans are coming because Trump let the earlier caravans in, and those illegal immigrants are calling people back home reporting their food, housing, transportation, cell phones, healthcare, and education are being paid for by American taxpayers and consumers. These open borders policies and deceptions by Trump will bring in more illegals in the future." Released to the media Feb 1, 2019.

Please tell Trump to stop misleading us, misinforming us, contradicting himself, and allowing illegal aliens to enter and remain in the US unlawfully, which violates our laws, Constitution, and his Oath of Office.

Share this press release, videos, and report by e-mail and on (FACEBOOK HERE) .. (TWITTER HERE) .. (GAB HERE) .. (ALIPAC HERE)

Last edited by ALIPAC; 02-01-2019 at 05:33 PM.
 
https://rense.com/general96/2224-illegal-aliens-got-into-the-us.php

January 2019 - 2,224 Illegal Aliens Got Into The US And
Required Hospitalization - You Paid

Author Chris Buskirk
1-29-19

An astounding 2,224 migrants, largely from Honduras and Guatemala, required hospitalization upon reaching US territory in January, the Department of Homeland Security reports.

Infectious diseases like scabies merited the greatest concern, Border Patrol Medical Director David Whipple told theWashington Examiner.

Colder weather, beginning in November, resulted in large numbers needing immediate health care, Whipple said.

"We're being called every day. The (Border Patrol) wants us to do immediate screenings because they lack the medical personnel," Whipple emphasized.

Hidalgo County, Texas Director Tisha Green remarked, "The biggest concern that I hear about is not that they're disease-ridden, but that they're not vaccinated."

Border region residents express concern when outbreaks of tuberculosis and measles among migrants are reported in the press, particularly in rural areas.

"It could become a county epidemic," Green added.

DHS also reported the Border Patrol motor pool logged more than 20,000 hours transporting migrants to medical facilities in November, December, and January, often compromising needs in other areas.
 
parable,

I suggest you do some research on Alipac, if you question them....they would welcome any requests for information, on their site. I have head Mr Gheen interviewed, several times, and he is the real deal! MMJ
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
People are so fast to blame stuff that happens with some Federal Agency as the author/father on PDJT while the truth is that they're not really Trump people either giving or following the orders. Yep, his fault, damn learning curve from Hell but he's starting to get it.

One HOPES!!
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
My understanding is the "border wall," now being built is simply replacing, upgrading walls in areas that already exist. San Diego is a prime example. They have had a "wall" there for years, and now they are replacing it. It is also a fact that Trump has the ability to use military funds from day one, and he won't do it. Trump is also letting in THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS, almost on a daily basis. I get people want to believe Trump, and Q, but facts are facts.

I'm saying the Kushner, Mitch the Bitch, Rubio amnesty crowd are quite willing to trade some cosmetic "border security measures," in return for letting in 1.8 million Dreamers and setting up a pathway for citizenship for tens of millions of illegals already here.

I notice nobody is denying Kushner is now effectively making border policy, and the deal is the 1.8 million. So, gang, on the 15th, when the trade is made, ie border security for 1.8 million dreamers, don't say Doomer Doug didn't warn you. Alipac are PATRIOTS and I trust them more than I do Trump at this point .
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
So, gang, on the 15th, when the trade is made, ie border security for 1.8 million dreamers, don't say Doomer Doug didn't warn you. Alipac are PATRIOTS and I trust them more than I do Trump at this point .

So noted. Call me crazy, but I'll hoping onto a little hope that he'll do the right thing.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I have posted several links where Mitch the Bitch, Rubio, and Kushner openly say they are negotiating a trade between "border security measures" in return for 1.8 million dreamers. I don't know why people are totally ignoring what they are doing, and the open statements by other RINOS, certain Democrats that they WILL MAKE THIS DEAL TO PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, AND DEAL WITH "BORDER SECURITY."

Trump, well he seems to be out of loop, and Kushner is now making border policy.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Doug, you are usually considered to be a rational observer, and yet you continue to believe it's possible to (petition the Lord with prayer) evacuate and deport a few million people.
 
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