mossyoak1985
Senior Member
what do you expect from a militia, for them to be there on time and arrest them? i bet everyone of them gets there right after the guy accidentally catches on fire. because he tripped.several times.
COMMUNISM The Battle For Portland, Oregon
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Doomer Doug
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Again I seem to be out of it all in my downtown apartment with my hepa filter going..So antifa is claiming credit for any of this? Personally, this has more of an ISIS smell to it. ISIS blm, antifa won't matter now at all. I said I doubted we would make it to 11-3 and here we are. If armed militias, like the ones I saw when the proud boys did their thing that saturday, are indeed hunting down antifa then civil war two won't be stopped now that it has begun. The 600 trumpsters will come back with theur trucks and AR -15's and that will be that.
Catching up from last night.
It's getting beyond bad there.
It's getting beyond bad there.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Doug thank you for the updates, I'm going to open facebook (I haven't used it much) so my friends in Oregon can reach us to let us know any news if they need to.
Good luck and I hope you don't have to evacuate or have issues from all the smoke - my doctor had me taking double and even triple allergy meds during the Oakland Hills Firestorm - I'm allergic to eucalyptus trees and they were exploding all around us through the smoke was bad enough on its own that the hospitals were pretty full.
Good luck and I hope you don't have to evacuate or have issues from all the smoke - my doctor had me taking double and even triple allergy meds during the Oakland Hills Firestorm - I'm allergic to eucalyptus trees and they were exploding all around us through the smoke was bad enough on its own that the hospitals were pretty full.
There is precious little national coverage on this whole deal.
It's almost like "they" know the fires are being started by commie revolutionaries and don't want the scope to be general knowledge.
It's almost like "they" know the fires are being started by commie revolutionaries and don't want the scope to be general knowledge.
mzkitty
I give up.
Cascadians
Leska Emerald Adams
Interesting pattern emerging. The people who are not evacuating are guarding their homes and neighborhoods. Carrying guns. Grim and determined. Watering along their houses. The Sleeping Beast of Self Defense is waking up.
I walked Brook along our neighborhood route this morning at 5/a. Many have already left. But those who have stayed are more proactive than anything I've seen before.
And ppl are just starting to think maybe there's something peculiar happening.
I walked Brook along our neighborhood route this morning at 5/a. Many have already left. But those who have stayed are more proactive than anything I've seen before.
And ppl are just starting to think maybe there's something peculiar happening.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
From my friend of over 30 years in "Lincoln City" (they moved away from Portland it seems) though they are not yet under evacuation order they are pretty much on the sea, she's got a shot of the blood run sun over the ocean too.
The only other information I have for SM Sterling Change fans is that St. Angel (the monastery in the book and in real life) is under number 2 evacuation orders, the monks and packed and ready to go but have not left at the time of posting.
If I get any other useful location information or updates I will post, but I suspect most people I know are either on the road or don't need to evacuate - yet.
No word from my cousins in Washington State or my old roommate, but they are all on the Coast, not the Eastern Sides of the State.
nebb
Veteran Member
Already happened......congress
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Well, the powers that be are in hysterics about the "fake nrws rumors" kgw especially that antifa is setting fires and "six people were arrested" etc. Gee, since antifa has been setting fires in downtown portland for the last 105 days, why would anybody think they would set terrorist fires statewide?
"The powers that be" have lost control completely now. Antifa better be hiding
Bad air alert from Friday to Monday at noon some 3 days. Bless my hepa filter and my emergency supplies. Will be wearing my mask 24/7 for the next few days.
The local media can't save the system now.
"The powers that be" have lost control completely now. Antifa better be hiding
Bad air alert from Friday to Monday at noon some 3 days. Bless my hepa filter and my emergency supplies. Will be wearing my mask 24/7 for the next few days.
The local media can't save the system now.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
The fires are mostly on yhe coast, west of the cascades and in the eastern part of valley. Also foothills of the cascades and southern valley down by medford ashland etc
Like I said the fires are miles away from downtown.
Like I said the fires are miles away from downtown.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Half Million People Evacuated in Oregon As Wildfires Spread, Arson Concerns Grow
Wildfires continue to rage throughout Oregon Friday morning, have killed at least three people and forced more than half a million from their homes.
AP cites data from the Oregon Office of Emergency Management, which shows about 12% of the state's 4.2 million population, or about 500,000 residents, have been evacuated. As much as 1,400 square miles (3,625 square kilometers) have burned across the state this week. State officials said wildfire activity flourished Thursday afternoon in northwestern Oregon as hot weather and windy conditions fueled the fires.
The Northwest Interagency Coordination Center's latest fire map shows there are many uncontained wildfires across the state.
Readers may recall the U.S. Climate Prediction Center confirmed a broad shift in a weather pattern across the U.S. last month, called La Nina, which has transformed the western U.S. into a tinder box.
Even though La Nina has been confirmed, or depending on who you speak to, 'climate change', these have been some of the mainstream consensus themes of what could be fueling the fires. But, according to a new report via Reuters, arson investigators have been called to investigate fires as suspicion grows on the origins.
Earlier this week, there was at least one instance, according to Oregon State Trooper Ryan Burke, who tweeted a 36-year-old "Puyallup resident" was arrested on Wednesday (Sept. 9) for starting a fire on the "median on SR-167."
Local TV station, Q13 FOX, reports "Jeff Demologik" was reportedly arrested by state troopers - here's the man filming his arrest for setting fire in the median on the highway.
In a separate incident, one Twitter user tweets:
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Wildfires continue to rage throughout Oregon Friday morning, have killed at least three people and forced more than half a million from their homes.
AP cites data from the Oregon Office of Emergency Management, which shows about 12% of the state's 4.2 million population, or about 500,000 residents, have been evacuated. As much as 1,400 square miles (3,625 square kilometers) have burned across the state this week. State officials said wildfire activity flourished Thursday afternoon in northwestern Oregon as hot weather and windy conditions fueled the fires.
The Northwest Interagency Coordination Center's latest fire map shows there are many uncontained wildfires across the state.
Readers may recall the U.S. Climate Prediction Center confirmed a broad shift in a weather pattern across the U.S. last month, called La Nina, which has transformed the western U.S. into a tinder box.
Gov. Kate Brown has declared a state emergency for the wildfires that extends into early November. She said Thursday, "this could be the greatest loss of life and structures due to wildfire in state history. "
Even though La Nina has been confirmed, or depending on who you speak to, 'climate change', these have been some of the mainstream consensus themes of what could be fueling the fires. But, according to a new report via Reuters, arson investigators have been called to investigate fires as suspicion grows on the origins.
Earlier this week, there was at least one instance, according to Oregon State Trooper Ryan Burke, who tweeted a 36-year-old "Puyallup resident" was arrested on Wednesday (Sept. 9) for starting a fire on the "median on SR-167."
Local TV station, Q13 FOX, reports "Jeff Demologik" was reportedly arrested by state troopers - here's the man filming his arrest for setting fire in the median on the highway.
In a separate incident, one Twitter user tweets:
It appears possible that some of these wildfires were not just started by lighting strikes or mishaps with utility companies but possibly there's a chance arson could be involved.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Given how intenesly antifa involvement is being denied by tptb, antifa set some of them. Hmm, antifa rioting and setting fites for 105 days. Why would anybody think they were involved? 
I searched "antifa setting fires in Oregon", blocking maneuvers by the press were the main results.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
A few FACTS here.
One: NOBODY in Multnomah county is under any evacuation order of any type. Multnomah county is 300,000 acres total or one thitd of the 900,000 total burnt acres.
Two: The fires are threatening Clackamas county which is south of me by several miles.
Three. The actual fires are further south than that in Mollah etc. It has cooled off a lot well below the expected 90F for thursday and Friday.
Four. Portland's leadership is even worse
Five: Portland is not "burning to the ground."
Six. Personally, other than some smoke and bad air quality all of this is 15 MILES away to my south at least.
One: NOBODY in Multnomah county is under any evacuation order of any type. Multnomah county is 300,000 acres total or one thitd of the 900,000 total burnt acres.
Two: The fires are threatening Clackamas county which is south of me by several miles.
Three. The actual fires are further south than that in Mollah etc. It has cooled off a lot well below the expected 90F for thursday and Friday.
Four. Portland's leadership is even worse
Five: Portland is not "burning to the ground."
Six. Personally, other than some smoke and bad air quality all of this is 15 MILES away to my south at least.
mzkitty
I give up.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah that should show them how dangerous climate change is. Kind of like cutting off your hand to show how dangerous a skill saw is.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
God, enough with this mass casualty event for the city of Portland. where do they get these people? the fires would have to burn 20 to 40 MILES to get near Portland, and then cross the wilamette river to get downtown. Fear Porn plain and simple. Now Antifa has set fires all over downtown for the last 105 days so of course they got a dog in this fire show. Anyway, I watched the local ABC KATU news tonight and they just went on and on with the FBI drivel of lies and conspiracy theory. This from an FBI that committed sedition and treason and destroyed phones in the Mueller investigation of the fraud russiagate.
If fire does breach the willamette river, and threaten my life I plan to spend my last few hours hunting.
If fire does breach the willamette river, and threaten my life I plan to spend my last few hours hunting.
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Good hunting DD. No tag limit is in place.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Now, now DOBBIN the PC police will send you to a time out barn stall for cracks like that.
mzkitty
I give up.
‘There was no fighting this fire,’ California survivor says
Published: Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:06 AM CDT|Updated: 20 minutes ago
BERRY CREEK, Calif. (AP) — John Sykes built his life around his cabin in the dense woods of Northern California. He raised his two children there, expanded it and improved it over time and made it resilient to all kinds of disasters except fire.
So when the winds started howling Tuesday and the skies became so dark from smoke that he had to turn on his lights at midday, he didn’t hesitate to leave it all behind in an instant before any evacuation order.
With the disaster two years ago in nearby Paradise, in which 85 people perished in the deadliest and most destructive fire in modern state history, still fresh on his mind, Sykes got his wife and a friend into his car and left with only a change of clothes each.
“All I could do is look in the rear view mirror and see orange sky and a mushroom cloud and that told me it was hot and to keep going,” Sykes said Friday. “It was a terrifying feeling.”
Berry Creek was largely destroyed in what has become the deadliest fire of 2020, a year that has already shattered California records for the most area burned — more land than the state of Connecticut — and recorded the largest fire of all time in the state. Five of the top 10 biggest blazes in state history are still burning and fire season often gets worse in the fall.
At least nine people were killed and 19 were unaccounted for.
The Butte County Sheriff’s Office initially said 10 bodies were found but reduced it on Friday because it was determined that bones found in a burned storage shed were actually a realistic-looking human skeleton model made of resin that an anthroplogy student used for study, Sheriff Kory Honea said.
The sheriff also announced that the victims included Josiah Williams, 16, of Berry Creek, who apparently died while trying to flee the flames in a vehicle.
“He was alone, terrified and ran for his life,” his mother, Jessica Williams, told CBS13 Sacramento. ""My son was a good, smart, caring young boy that died alone and it kills me thinking about what he was going through."
The body of Millicent Catarancuic, 77, of Berry Creek was found by a car on Wednesday, and two other people who may have been associated with her were found in the same area, the sheriff said, although he didn’t release their names.
“We have information that those subjects were aware of the fire but chose not to immediately evacuate,” he said.
More victims could be found when search-and-rescue teams join sheriff’s detectives in searching the devastated area but it was too dangerous to immediately begin work in some places, the sheriff said.
“Right now, the areas that we need to search are too hot,” he said.
Neighboring Oregon and Washington also have been besieged and air pollution is a major problem across the West. Oregon Gov. Kate Brown said Friday “dozens of people” are missing from the large wildfires that have burned across the state.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom toured the fire-ravaged region Friday and strongly asserted that climate change was evident and pledged to redouble efforts to “decarbonize” the economy.
“The debate is over around climate change. Just come to the state of California, observe it with your own eyes,” he said, citing the hottest August in state history, 14,000 dry lightning strikes in three days, record-breaking temperatures, drought and millions of dead trees.
The immediate good news, he said, was the weather was beginning to cooperate, with winds settling down and the possibility of modest rain.
Bill Connelly, a Butte County supervisor, said about 90% of the homes had burned but most of the 6,000 people in that area got out.
“It’s just as devastating as Paradise,” he said, referring to the town 10 miles (16 kilometers) away that had 26,000 residents when it was destroyed. “It would be worse than Paradise if there were that many people living there.”
About 20 people were hospitalized with burns; others broke limbs in the panic to flee, Connelly said. Fire officials have estimated that more than 2,000 homes and other buildings were destroyed.
Under heavy smoke, the search continued Friday for 16 people missing in the rugged mountains 125 miles (200 kilometers) northeast of San Francisco.
Berry Creek, which began as a stage coach stop during the California Gold Rush, was among the hardest hit communities.
A bar, laundromat and two stores are gone. All that remained of a gas station were a pair of pumps and a sign listing prices. The school and volunteer fire station — with the engine still inside — were destroyed.
“There was no fighting this fire,” Sykes said. “Those who tried to fight it are probably not here.”
Most homes were reduced to smoldering piles of ash, twisted metal and blackened appliances, but others escaped unscathed. Chimneys poked from the rubble and burned out cars and pickup trucks dotted the landscape. Scorched utility poles and fallen wires lined the roads.
Sykes, who became emotional several times describing his ordeal, said he has located all but two friends. Some dunked into ponds, others jumped into Lake Oroville, a massive reservoir, as hot debris rained down on them, he said.
Sykes, a former logger and construction worker, had never evacuated his home during a fire before but said he was too old at 68 to stay put. Plus, he had to look after his wife Janet, the “love of my life,” and a close friend who has been ill and lived with them since her husband died six months ago.
He didn’t want them to be trapped on the road leading out of town the way people had perished in Paradise.
When they were 5 miles (8 kilometers) miles down the road heading to safety, a friend called to say that the home he left behind on Wood Smoke Way was burning.
‘There was no fighting this fire,’ California survivor says
The terrible toll of California’s wildfires became more evident as a mother confirmed her 16-year-old son was among those killed when an inferno tore through several hamlets in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada this week.
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Profit of Doom
Dismember
The stupid is strong in this one.
mzkitty
I give up.
'I have never seen anything like this': Oregon towns emptied and confusion spreads amid fires
In Molalla and other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped residents as hundreds of thousands in the state evacuate
Fri 11 Sep 2020 11.48 EDT Last modified on Fri 11 Sep 2020 12.39 EDT
1:23 - Video at link:
Drone vision captures razed communities and burnt-out cars after Oregon wildfires – video
Hundreds of thousands of people in Oregon were ordered to leave their homes on Thursday as wildfires encroached on their properties. The evacuations clogged highways, emptied entire towns and sparked confusion in a state that has not grappled with wildfires of this size before.
Large-scale evacuations in the state began within the metropolitan area of Portland, Oregon’s largest city. Clackamas county, home to some 420,000 people in the metro’s south, was already under varying levels of fire alert when officials on Thursday afternoon told residents of the city of Molalla to leave.
From early afternoon, bumper-to-bumper traffic streamed north on state route 213 from Molalla towards Oregon City. The highway’s northbound lanes were clogged with RVs, trailers, trucks and smaller vehicles carrying tool boxes, luggage, trail bikes and horses.
The caravan was just one part of a half-million strong evacuation in a state confronted by the worst fire conditions in recent history, and, according to the governor, Kate Brown, the possibility of the worst fatalities and property damage on record.
In southbound lanes, meanwhile, dozens of local and state police cruisers, fire-and-rescue trucks and ambulances sped towards the town and the two megafires threatening its existence: the Riverside fire, which has burned 125,000 acres to the east of Mollala, and the deadly Beechie Creek fire, which has incinerated more than 182,000 acres, mostly in neighboring Marion county, while killing at least two, and destroying the lakeside town of Detroit.
An orange smoke-filled sky is seen above Molalla, Oregon on Thursday as fires burn nearby. Photograph: Deborah Bloom/AFP/Getty Images
Fire officials expressed concern that the two great fires might merge, after unsafe conditions forced firefighters to disengage from the Riverside blaze around 2pm. At that time it was just two miles from Estacada, fifteen miles north-east of Molalla, at the foot of Mount Hood.
When the evacuation order came, even Molalla’s fire department was forced to leave town. By 3pm they were setting up a makeshift staging ground at the elementary school in Mulino, five miles north of their home base.
As administrators were busy organizing their new headquarters, fire engines and volunteers’ pickup trucks continued to arrive, bearing members of the mostly volunteer force – some with faces caked with soot and grime from their encounters with the fires.
Also there in force were the black and white cruisers of the Oregon state police. As intense planning discussions took place in the school’s car park, officers and tired volunteers unloaded bottled water and energy drinks donated by a stream of arriving locals and well-wishers.
At the fringes of the action stood Tony Mann, the superintendent of the Molalla River school district, whose school became a temporary firehouse from Thursday afternoon. He said that although he had only received the request an hour before firefighters started arriving, he was happy to help.
Although he had already evacuated from the area, he came back to give firefighters access to the school, he said. He added: “As a school district, we’re about how do we support our communities once first responders have done their jobs”.
Describing himself as a “lifelong resident” of Clackamas county, he said of the fires: “I have never seen anything like this in my life”.
David Scuito, a Molalla firefighter, agreed: “We have dealt with smaller fires in season, but never to this scale.”
Of the parade of cars passing north past the school’s entrances, he said: “It’s a good sign. Police are getting everyone out of here.”
Volunteers with the Portland mutual aid group PDX Witches deliver donated supplies to a fire command center on Thursday in Molalla. Photograph: Nathan Howard/Getty Images
The spirit of cooperation was not felt universally, however.
As in other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped Molalla ahead of the evacuation.
In preceding days, Facebook pages associated with the town were filled with rumors of looters and Antifa raids. On its Facebook page overnight, Molalla police were forced to amend an earlier call for residents to report suspicious activity.
“This is about possible looters, not antifa or setting of fires,” the edit read. “There has been NO antifa in town as of this posting at 02am. Please, folks, stay calm and use common sense.”
The effects of this disinformation were dangerously evident on the ground.
On Thursday afternoon, three journalists were confronted by men with AR-15s and summarily ordered to leave Molalla. One of them, Sergio Olmos, who was on assignment for Oregon Public Broadcasting, said that the orders were given by the men – apparently civilians – without explanations or identification.
Further afield, other men with similar sympathies appeared to be on patrol. Although few vehicles were left in Mulino save those belonging to emergency services, on the trip there and again on back roads en route to Oregon City, men in trucks bearing thin blue line flags – a badge of membership for rightwing movements – were observed in states of hypervigilance. Some appeared to be noting the faces and number plates of passersby.
Others sent horn honks and supportive gestures towards trucks bearing similar regalia.
By late afternoon, more of the county, including southern parts of Oregon City, had been subjected to evacuation orders. Although Mulino and Molalla remained eerily empty, the highways and bridges leading over the Willamette River into Portland were at a virtual standstill around 5pm, as a large proportion of Clackamas county residents fled the wildfires.
While they queued at the gateways to Portland, that city’s mayor, Ted Wheeler, declared that city was in a state of fire emergency, and closed all city-owned outdoor areas, while opening evacuation sites for fire victims.
Wheeler’s move on Thursday evening underlined the fact that the fires, which had wholly consumed several rural, mountain towns, were now reaching into the west’s largest cities.
www.theguardian.com
In Molalla and other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped residents as hundreds of thousands in the state evacuate
Fri 11 Sep 2020 11.48 EDT Last modified on Fri 11 Sep 2020 12.39 EDT
1:23 - Video at link:
Drone vision captures razed communities and burnt-out cars after Oregon wildfires – video
Hundreds of thousands of people in Oregon were ordered to leave their homes on Thursday as wildfires encroached on their properties. The evacuations clogged highways, emptied entire towns and sparked confusion in a state that has not grappled with wildfires of this size before.
Large-scale evacuations in the state began within the metropolitan area of Portland, Oregon’s largest city. Clackamas county, home to some 420,000 people in the metro’s south, was already under varying levels of fire alert when officials on Thursday afternoon told residents of the city of Molalla to leave.
From early afternoon, bumper-to-bumper traffic streamed north on state route 213 from Molalla towards Oregon City. The highway’s northbound lanes were clogged with RVs, trailers, trucks and smaller vehicles carrying tool boxes, luggage, trail bikes and horses.
The caravan was just one part of a half-million strong evacuation in a state confronted by the worst fire conditions in recent history, and, according to the governor, Kate Brown, the possibility of the worst fatalities and property damage on record.
In southbound lanes, meanwhile, dozens of local and state police cruisers, fire-and-rescue trucks and ambulances sped towards the town and the two megafires threatening its existence: the Riverside fire, which has burned 125,000 acres to the east of Mollala, and the deadly Beechie Creek fire, which has incinerated more than 182,000 acres, mostly in neighboring Marion county, while killing at least two, and destroying the lakeside town of Detroit.
An orange smoke-filled sky is seen above Molalla, Oregon on Thursday as fires burn nearby. Photograph: Deborah Bloom/AFP/Getty Images
Fire officials expressed concern that the two great fires might merge, after unsafe conditions forced firefighters to disengage from the Riverside blaze around 2pm. At that time it was just two miles from Estacada, fifteen miles north-east of Molalla, at the foot of Mount Hood.
When the evacuation order came, even Molalla’s fire department was forced to leave town. By 3pm they were setting up a makeshift staging ground at the elementary school in Mulino, five miles north of their home base.
As administrators were busy organizing their new headquarters, fire engines and volunteers’ pickup trucks continued to arrive, bearing members of the mostly volunteer force – some with faces caked with soot and grime from their encounters with the fires.
Also there in force were the black and white cruisers of the Oregon state police. As intense planning discussions took place in the school’s car park, officers and tired volunteers unloaded bottled water and energy drinks donated by a stream of arriving locals and well-wishers.
At the fringes of the action stood Tony Mann, the superintendent of the Molalla River school district, whose school became a temporary firehouse from Thursday afternoon. He said that although he had only received the request an hour before firefighters started arriving, he was happy to help.
Although he had already evacuated from the area, he came back to give firefighters access to the school, he said. He added: “As a school district, we’re about how do we support our communities once first responders have done their jobs”.
Describing himself as a “lifelong resident” of Clackamas county, he said of the fires: “I have never seen anything like this in my life”.
David Scuito, a Molalla firefighter, agreed: “We have dealt with smaller fires in season, but never to this scale.”
Of the parade of cars passing north past the school’s entrances, he said: “It’s a good sign. Police are getting everyone out of here.”
Volunteers with the Portland mutual aid group PDX Witches deliver donated supplies to a fire command center on Thursday in Molalla. Photograph: Nathan Howard/Getty Images
The spirit of cooperation was not felt universally, however.
As in other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped Molalla ahead of the evacuation.
In preceding days, Facebook pages associated with the town were filled with rumors of looters and Antifa raids. On its Facebook page overnight, Molalla police were forced to amend an earlier call for residents to report suspicious activity.
“This is about possible looters, not antifa or setting of fires,” the edit read. “There has been NO antifa in town as of this posting at 02am. Please, folks, stay calm and use common sense.”
The effects of this disinformation were dangerously evident on the ground.
On Thursday afternoon, three journalists were confronted by men with AR-15s and summarily ordered to leave Molalla. One of them, Sergio Olmos, who was on assignment for Oregon Public Broadcasting, said that the orders were given by the men – apparently civilians – without explanations or identification.
Further afield, other men with similar sympathies appeared to be on patrol. Although few vehicles were left in Mulino save those belonging to emergency services, on the trip there and again on back roads en route to Oregon City, men in trucks bearing thin blue line flags – a badge of membership for rightwing movements – were observed in states of hypervigilance. Some appeared to be noting the faces and number plates of passersby.
Others sent horn honks and supportive gestures towards trucks bearing similar regalia.
By late afternoon, more of the county, including southern parts of Oregon City, had been subjected to evacuation orders. Although Mulino and Molalla remained eerily empty, the highways and bridges leading over the Willamette River into Portland were at a virtual standstill around 5pm, as a large proportion of Clackamas county residents fled the wildfires.
While they queued at the gateways to Portland, that city’s mayor, Ted Wheeler, declared that city was in a state of fire emergency, and closed all city-owned outdoor areas, while opening evacuation sites for fire victims.
Wheeler’s move on Thursday evening underlined the fact that the fires, which had wholly consumed several rural, mountain towns, were now reaching into the west’s largest cities.
'I have never seen anything like this': Oregon towns emptied and confusion spreads amid fires
In Molalla and other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped residents as hundreds of thousands in the state evacuate
www.theguardian.com
mzkitty
I give up.
Well. Get a load of this thread !!!
View: https://twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/status/1304542726927441920
View: https://twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/status/1304542726927441920
We have not lost yet, we have just begone to fight, but in silence.
Wait until we go into the open.
MAY GOD HELP US ALL!
The people in Portland should not take back their city an country back.
Stop talking an more action, silent of not.
This is an insurrection, lets the American people put it down NOW.
Do not evict the federates, give them a dirt nap?
Lets take our country back.
The people who are running away from the fire , are running to nowhere.'I have never seen anything like this': Oregon towns emptied and confusion spreads amid fires
In Molalla and other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped residents as hundreds of thousands in the state evacuate
Fri 11 Sep 2020 11.48 EDT Last modified on Fri 11 Sep 2020 12.39 EDT
1:23 - Video at link:
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Drone vision captures razed communities and burnt-out cars after Oregon wildfires – video
Hundreds of thousands of people in Oregon were ordered to leave their homes on Thursday as wildfires encroached on their properties. The evacuations clogged highways, emptied entire towns and sparked confusion in a state that has not grappled with wildfires of this size before.
Large-scale evacuations in the state began within the metropolitan area of Portland, Oregon’s largest city. Clackamas county, home to some 420,000 people in the metro’s south, was already under varying levels of fire alert when officials on Thursday afternoon told residents of the city of Molalla to leave.
From early afternoon, bumper-to-bumper traffic streamed north on state route 213 from Molalla towards Oregon City. The highway’s northbound lanes were clogged with RVs, trailers, trucks and smaller vehicles carrying tool boxes, luggage, trail bikes and horses.
The caravan was just one part of a half-million strong evacuation in a state confronted by the worst fire conditions in recent history, and, according to the governor, Kate Brown, the possibility of the worst fatalities and property damage on record.
In southbound lanes, meanwhile, dozens of local and state police cruisers, fire-and-rescue trucks and ambulances sped towards the town and the two megafires threatening its existence: the Riverside fire, which has burned 125,000 acres to the east of Mollala, and the deadly Beechie Creek fire, which has incinerated more than 182,000 acres, mostly in neighboring Marion county, while killing at least two, and destroying the lakeside town of Detroit.
An orange smoke-filled sky is seen above Molalla, Oregon on Thursday as fires burn nearby. Photograph: Deborah Bloom/AFP/Getty Images
Fire officials expressed concern that the two great fires might merge, after unsafe conditions forced firefighters to disengage from the Riverside blaze around 2pm. At that time it was just two miles from Estacada, fifteen miles north-east of Molalla, at the foot of Mount Hood.
When the evacuation order came, even Molalla’s fire department was forced to leave town. By 3pm they were setting up a makeshift staging ground at the elementary school in Mulino, five miles north of their home base.
As administrators were busy organizing their new headquarters, fire engines and volunteers’ pickup trucks continued to arrive, bearing members of the mostly volunteer force – some with faces caked with soot and grime from their encounters with the fires.
Also there in force were the black and white cruisers of the Oregon state police. As intense planning discussions took place in the school’s car park, officers and tired volunteers unloaded bottled water and energy drinks donated by a stream of arriving locals and well-wishers.
At the fringes of the action stood Tony Mann, the superintendent of the Molalla River school district, whose school became a temporary firehouse from Thursday afternoon. He said that although he had only received the request an hour before firefighters started arriving, he was happy to help.
Although he had already evacuated from the area, he came back to give firefighters access to the school, he said. He added: “As a school district, we’re about how do we support our communities once first responders have done their jobs”.
Describing himself as a “lifelong resident” of Clackamas county, he said of the fires: “I have never seen anything like this in my life”.
David Scuito, a Molalla firefighter, agreed: “We have dealt with smaller fires in season, but never to this scale.”
Of the parade of cars passing north past the school’s entrances, he said: “It’s a good sign. Police are getting everyone out of here.”
Volunteers with the Portland mutual aid group PDX Witches deliver donated supplies to a fire command center on Thursday in Molalla. Photograph: Nathan Howard/Getty Images
The spirit of cooperation was not felt universally, however.
As in other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped Molalla ahead of the evacuation.
In preceding days, Facebook pages associated with the town were filled with rumors of looters and Antifa raids. On its Facebook page overnight, Molalla police were forced to amend an earlier call for residents to report suspicious activity.
“This is about possible looters, not antifa or setting of fires,” the edit read. “There has been NO antifa in town as of this posting at 02am. Please, folks, stay calm and use common sense.”
The effects of this disinformation were dangerously evident on the ground.
On Thursday afternoon, three journalists were confronted by men with AR-15s and summarily ordered to leave Molalla. One of them, Sergio Olmos, who was on assignment for Oregon Public Broadcasting, said that the orders were given by the men – apparently civilians – without explanations or identification.
Further afield, other men with similar sympathies appeared to be on patrol. Although few vehicles were left in Mulino save those belonging to emergency services, on the trip there and again on back roads en route to Oregon City, men in trucks bearing thin blue line flags – a badge of membership for rightwing movements – were observed in states of hypervigilance. Some appeared to be noting the faces and number plates of passersby.
Others sent horn honks and supportive gestures towards trucks bearing similar regalia.
By late afternoon, more of the county, including southern parts of Oregon City, had been subjected to evacuation orders. Although Mulino and Molalla remained eerily empty, the highways and bridges leading over the Willamette River into Portland were at a virtual standstill around 5pm, as a large proportion of Clackamas county residents fled the wildfires.
While they queued at the gateways to Portland, that city’s mayor, Ted Wheeler, declared that city was in a state of fire emergency, and closed all city-owned outdoor areas, while opening evacuation sites for fire victims.
Wheeler’s move on Thursday evening underlined the fact that the fires, which had wholly consumed several rural, mountain towns, were now reaching into the west’s largest cities.
'I have never seen anything like this': Oregon towns emptied and confusion spreads amid fires
In Molalla and other western towns, fear, uncertainty and disinformation gripped residents as hundreds of thousands in the state evacuate
To scared to stand and fight.
I will not help these types of money loving people, only the ones who are willing to take a stand an fight!
Cascadians
Leska Emerald Adams
Reading my facebook news feed ... my liberal friends are freaking out because militias are forming everywhere and taking control of the streets.
I just want to state that I know my friends and most are actually good ppl, just severely brainwashed, but with good hearts. They want to do the right thing and they want goodness for others. If and when they ever find out the truth they will be so shocked, I can see the 99% hospitalized coming true.
Be glad you've been mentally prepared.
The rednecks throughout Oregon are awakening. Organizing. Patrolling. Barricading streets. Checking vehicles. Putting out fires. Reports of this now coming from everywhere. There is hope.
I just want to state that I know my friends and most are actually good ppl, just severely brainwashed, but with good hearts. They want to do the right thing and they want goodness for others. If and when they ever find out the truth they will be so shocked, I can see the 99% hospitalized coming true.
Be glad you've been mentally prepared.
The rednecks throughout Oregon are awakening. Organizing. Patrolling. Barricading streets. Checking vehicles. Putting out fires. Reports of this now coming from everywhere. There is hope.
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
The road to Hell is paved with good intention.
What these humans lack is an appreciation of the "unintended consequence."
Like: you want your children to have it "better" than you had it - more free time, less stress, more "advantages," But in the process many forget their spiritual side - which actually grows with adversity and the realization its "not all about you."
Life IS hard - but dying is harder - and these, both adults and their children, know nothing of this second path.
One hopes they learn quickly...
Dobbin
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