REL GENRL The American Church Is Standing At The Red Sea
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rob0126
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Taxes are not optional in america. It is enforced by threat of imprisonment and/or gunpoint.
If I had the 'legal' option to not pay then I would do so; but I do not.
We revoke consent where we are able to.
INVAR
Sword At-The-Ready
Let's talk about the 'abortion numbers are down' argument for a moment.
Are we stupid enough to assume that YAH is going consider a short-term trend of less industrialized murdered infants as a 'good thing'????
Do we think He is going to forget the 72 million that have been slaughtered "legally" since '73 so generations can have sex without consequences and save us from the Judgement that innocent blood on our nation's hands deserves?
That argument is as absurd as saying that "Gassings and cremations have been trending down at Auschwitz in recent years" and declaring that a good thing.
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
That is right. I am going to go back to the beginning of this thread, at the OP and review this again. The OP left a bad taste in my mouth when I first saw it. This came to mind...um, this alone has always made me not feel too good about all of this, and this is one thing of many. And churches should not make excuses for bad behavior, right, but call it out???
What do you think God thinks of these statements?
TRUMP "I DONT NEED TO REPENT" 59 seconds
Trump Says He Does't Ask God For Forgiveness || The Beast - Donald J. Trump
2 minutes
Trump has "great relationship" with God 2 minutes 11 seconds
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
Thanks for posting this. I have not agreed to any of this either. Since I was a small child, I remember thinking that something was wrong. Babylon, for sure.
I have been Praying for a Revival, and whatever happens, God can Protect His people from the fiery furnace while there is chaos all around.
Psalm 91! Psalm 23. Psalm 10 (...break the arm of the wicked...)
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
Planned Parenthood Annual Report: Record High Abortions and Taxpayer Funding
Planned Parenthood has released its annual report for the year 2018-2019, one that reveals the organization performed a record high number of abortions while it also received record high taxpayer funding during that period.
In the past year, Planned Parenthood performed 345,672 abortions, an increase of nearly 13,000 more abortions and four percent over the 332,757 the group performed during year 2017-2018.
Planned Parenthood: Record High Abortions and Taxpayer Funding
The annual report released by Planned Parenthood reveals a record high number of abortions and its highest level of taxpayer funding.
www.breitbart.com
INVAR
Sword At-The-Ready
Yet you were told that if you deny that the numbers are "down" then you deny reality. As if less abortions is something God is going to applaud us for.
As if less Baal and Molech worship was pleasing to God - rather than wholesale stoppage and repentance.
And yet the report from PP itself confirms the opposite "reality" that was stated you must not deny.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Why would they lie? Why would anyone tell us abortion numbers are down when those who WANT it are PROUD of it?
It's fine and well to distrust, but there has to be a REASON. Otherwise it's just paranoia.
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
What? Sorry. I have posted this tidbit a few times on this forum in pertinent threads over the last year or two.
In any case, Roe v Wade was not overturned. PP was not defunded. Who said several times that he was going to do that?
The blood of the babies is still being spilled on the altar of convenience, sacrificed to moloch.
The thought of abortion makes me very squeamish, always did- since I found out what it actually IS.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Yes, I said that. And I had a LINK to support it. Here's the link again, in case you missed it the first time.
The U.S. Abortion Rate Continues to Drop: Once Again, State Abortion Restrictions Are Not the Main Driver
Between 2011 and 2017, the U.S. abortion landscape changed significantly. As documented by the Guttmacher Institute’s periodic abortion provider census, all the main measures of abortion declined, including the number of abortions, the abortion rate and the abortion ratio.1,2 The declines are...
Maybe the numbers are wrong. Maybe they're insufficiently recent. But they were valid, and the link confirms.
Oh, and as to your references to Baal and Moloch, yes, God does give at least partial credit. Proof?
2 Chronicles 25:2. See how that applies.
I don't profess to understand why evil does what it does.
rob0126
Veteran Member
I don't believe trump is a Godly man.
But, this is not why I am supporting his current actions.
God uses heathens to do His will.
If God uses trump to snuff out the commie cancer in the US, so be it; I will cheer that on.
Maybe trump will repent one day and be truly saved? It would be great.
So as long as God uses him to destroy america's enemies, Im all for it.
There could be dire consequences if trump pulls the proverbial trump card (martial law, etc) and does not give it up.
But the hope is that He will relinquish the power back to the republic properly.
Where in scripture is that hope?
Proverbs 10:22, "The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it."
This verse signifies acutely that when God blesses someone with wealth, that there are no woeful strings attached.
In a general sense, God's blessings don't have strings attached.
(but can have conditions for the blessings to continue)
Couldn't this apply to Him using a heathen king/president, to crush our enemies and not to use that same power against us afterwards?
(Pharaoh during Joseph's reign, Cyrus after taking over babylon (Daniel), & Ahasuerus giving the Jews permission to fight their enemies (Esther), come to mind)
rob0126
Veteran Member
Hey ioujc, I was not trying to speak to you harshly in a few previous posts, if it came off that way.
I'm just disagreeing with you on this matter and for good reason.
Let me explain.
Lots of Christians believe that they should take on the sins of the nation.
I want to help my brothers and sisters to recognize something about this mindset.
TPTB wants us to take on the responsibility of their evil deeds, onto ourselves. Basically, to blame their evil deeds on us, even though we hate and eschew what they are doing. (projecting in a sense)
I hear politicians, and even pastors say 'we did this' or 'we did that'.
As if each of us had or has a hand in the evil they are speaking about.
(This is assuming you dont)
When I hear someone speaking for me, saying we should not have did this or that, and to repent for it, and I know I have not partaken in any of the accused doings, it ticks me off.
It implies that I was in on it and had a choice to stop it.
This is nothing more than wordplay.
It's also a form of witchcraft, but I won't go into all of that here.
Words have power, and this is one reason why God said for us to watch what we say.
I am more than willing to admit to any wrong doing I have done.
But I will not admit to something I have not done. It's a lie, as our Lord and Savior said:
John 8:55, "Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying."
Again, let me be clear on this: if you are guilty of something, do not blow it off, but repent.
But if you know for a certain that you did not do something, then don't admit you did it. It would be a lie.
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Great article!! Thank you Sicario. Sent this to my pastor because I feel our church is one of those 'squishy churches,' not to mention pastor is still making masks mandatory for church. 
ioujc
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Excellent points rob0126>>>>actually you are right>>>words have tremendous power>>>>that is why the scripture is so important>>>>when we speak it aloud it can actually change things>>>>if you have ever experienced this.Hey ioujc, I was not trying to speak to you harshly in a few previous posts, if it came off that way.
I'm just disagreeing with you on this matter and for good reason.
Let me explain.
Lots of Christians believe that they should take on the sins of the nation.
I want to help my brothers and sisters to recognize something about this mindset.
TPTB wants us to take on the responsibility of their evil deeds, onto ourselves. Basically, to blame their evil deeds on us, even though we hate and eschew what they are doing. (projecting in a sense)
I hear politicians, and even pastors say 'we did this' or 'we did that'.
As if each of us had or has a hand in the evil they are speaking about.
(This is assuming you dont)
When I hear someone speaking for me, saying we should not have did this or that, and to repent for it, and I know I have not partaken in any of the accused doings, it ticks me off.
It implies that I was in on it and had a choice to stop it.
This is nothing more than wordplay.
It's also a form of witchcraft, but I won't go into all of that here.
Words have power, and this is one reason why God said for us to watch what you say.
I am more than willing to admit to any wrong doing I have done.
But I will not admit to something I have not done. It's a lie, as our Lord and Savior said:
John 8:55, "Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying."
Again, let me be clear on this: if you are guilty of something, do not blow it off, but repent.
But if you know for a certain that you did not do something, then don't admit you did it. It would be a lie.
Your post is making me think>>>>however I will have to do that tomorrow because I am really bushed tonight>>>>
Especially good example with Cyrus as that's fully supported in Isaiah 45 (For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me), and also with Nebuchadnezzar in Jeremiah 27 (And now I have given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him. And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come; and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him).