Seed That amazing pepper at Miejers

Limner

Deceased
I love sweet peppers, Green, yellow, red....I grow and freeze and dehydrate them all. So when I saw a shiny beauty in the produce section at Miejers, my cart came to a screeching halt.

This gorgeous pepper was blocky yellow with red vertical stripes, fading to an orange towards the bottom. I looked at it for a minute, thinking I could invite that pepper to supper, save the seeds, and have that striped beauty in my greenhouse and garden.

But then I faintly remembered a chart I had seen, ages ago, about GMOs n the produce section.

So I reluctantly left the object of my gardening desire, to ask here first....

1.). How likely is it that this pepper is GMO? Eouww.

2.) Understanding this is probably a hybrid, would that be a bad thing?

Thanks!
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skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Striped Holland Bell Peppers


Description/Taste

Striped Holland bell peppers are medium to large in size, averaging seven centimeters in length and five centimeters in diameter, and are rounded, square, and globular in shape with 3-4 lobes and a thick green stem. The smooth skin is firm and glossy with a yellow-orange base and deep red stripes that appear as if they were painted vertically on the pepper. Underneath the skin, the vibrant yellow flesh is still striped with the red streaks, has thick walls, and is crisp and succulent with a hollow cavity that contains very small, flat cream-colored seeds and a thin membrane. Striped Holland bell peppers are crunchy, juicy, and dense with a mild, less sweet flavor than regular yellow bell peppers.

Seasons/Availability

Striped Holland bell peppers are available in the spring through summer, but have limited availability depending on the season’s crop.

Current Facts

Striped Holland bell peppers, botanically classified as Capsicum annuum, are a natural hybrid of both yellow and red bell pepper varieties and are members of the Solanaceae family. Also known as Enjoya and Aloha, Striped Holland bell peppers are a fairly new variety that was discovered as a surprise variation in a garden in the Netherlands and have been developed over time to showcase the bi-colored traits. The vertical striping is not passed on through normal plant reproduction, so Striped Holland bell peppers are reproduced using cuttings and hand harvesting, making all the plants genetically identical. Striped Holland bell peppers are a patented variety that is grown through two produce companies, Mastronardi Produce and 4 Evergreen, and are distributed through these companies to retailers around the world.
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Biology of the Enjoya Pepper

A few years ago a new pepper turned up in markets of Europe and then in the USA (and elsewhere). The bell peppers were a dramatic yellow splashed with red flames and were sold as "Enjoya" or "Flame" peppers.

There was no information available about the genetics of the trait, as there had been no academic literature published on the new variety. Gardeners with the habit of growing their own plants from seed took this as a challenge. People around the globe independently said, "Can I can grow seeds from that pepper and get striped fruit in my garden?" Seeds were collected by those who found the peppers in their grocers and then shared via online forums to those who had not yet found them. Soon after, there were many little green seedlings being tended to around the world.

Months later, the first reports on the plants started coming in. The plants were producing large bell peppers, but they were all ripening yellow. (I have reports of 11 plants maturing to produce yellow fruit.) As these reports were posted to the forums, interest in the plants waned. (Dreams of crossing the trait into jalapenos and other hot peppers quietly died.) If the amazing red flames weren't going to reappear, then why would anyone want to be growing these plants?

Where did these peppers come from?

The marketing site for the pepper says:

Now, 30 years later, nature has once again surprised us with a natural variation: the red/yellow striped pepper. In 2013, Wilfred van den Berg found this beautiful variety in his greenhouse in Est.
But the US patent applied for the pepper says:

[0011] `E20B3751` was discovered in a screening trial of mutants of pepper variety `Maduro` conducted at Est, Netherlands. The mutant `E20B3751` was selected based on its vertical red and yellow stripes color and propagated vegetatively (i.e., asexually).
I strongly suspect those responsible for writing the marketing site didn't want to say the variety was the result of a mutation breeding project in a high-tech lab, as such things tend to get a lot of people suspicious about their foods. This is only a slight fib, since the mutated variety is a variation of the natural pepper.

What draws my attention more is that the patent doesn't say anything at all about how the pepper plant was produced (aside from the general concept of a mutagenesis screen). The entirety of the patent starting on line [0046] is simply a rehashing of general plant biology and breeding. None of that tells us anything at all about the origin of the striped peppers. This is strongly counter to the basic idea of what patents are supposed to be. The earlier paragraphs of the patent do give a concise description of what the pepper is, as well as a listing of specific traits associated with it, so it isn't entirely a useless document.

Since there isn't any academic research published on the pepper and neither the patent or marketing information provide any biological details, we're going to have to see what we can figure out from basic principles.

Mutations in genes typically produce traits which are either dominant or recessive. (There are a few other scenarios, but we're not going to worry about them for now.) If the striped trait is recessive, then essentially all of the next generation would also have the trait.

If the striped trait was dominant, then [with perfect selfing] the next generation might all have the trait, but there are other scenarios. If the Enjoya pepper plant (remember, from the patent they are propagated assexually and so are all from the same genetic plant) was heterozygous for the dominant trait, then half of the next generation would remain heterozygous and have the trait. Another quarter would be homozygous for the no-stripes trait and the remaining plants would be homozygous for the striped trait. Dominant traits can sometimes also have recessive lethal characteristic, though it is rare. All together, at the very least 66.6% of the next generation should have stripes if the trait was due to a dominant nuclear mutation.

In either scenario, we should have the majority of the next generation with stripes. What do we see? Between my plants and those reported by other growers, we have 16 plants that have ripened fruit. All of which matured to yellow with no red stripes. This would be a very unexpected result for either model discussed above.

There is another scenario that might be important. A growing meristem of a plant include multiple tissue layers which replicate independently. A mutation in one layer generally won't transfer to the other layers. As the plant grows, the mutated and non-mutated tissues will be maintained separately. As leaves or other organs develop, the different meristem layers contribute to different parts and so would result in visible variegation if the mutation had a visible impact.

After looking around a bit, I found a photo which might provide some clarity to the situation. In the cropped close-up at right, it is clear that all the seeds are attached directly to yellow tissue. There is red tissue in the core of the seed mass, but none at the surface where the eggs (and then seeds) developed.

It looks like some of the red core cells are able to migrate to the surface of the fruit during early development. This results in the red stripes as the fruit then expands in size.

Since the red color is carried in tissue which isn't made into eggs or seeds, it appears unlikely that the seed-grown progeny of an Enjoya pepper would produce red or striped fruit.

Sorry folks, I think the game is up. We probably won't be able to breed flame-colored jalapenos. At least we've learned something about the biology of these peppers.
 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not gmo, hybrid. Safe to eat but no seeds. It is likely a "sport" that someone saved, like a number of other garden plants.
I'd be tempted to buy one plant for the garden and then use over wintered cuttings for following years.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Although I've never found very many peppers (mild through hot) that I didn't like, several years ago a friend of mine introduced me to stuffing tomatoes.

If you like stuffed peppers there is are open pollinated versions of stuffing tomatoes. I've grown them off and on through the years. Here are some pictures of what they look like:

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90 days, indeterminate — The regular leaf plants of 'Red Stuffer' are very prolific. Its fruits are red-orange in color with three to four hollow cells. The seeds are uniquely concentrated in a center seed cluster, similar to that of a bell pepper, which is easily removed resulting in an edible container for your favorite cold or hot salad. The flavor is very mild and won't overpower what you have stuffed them with. Our favorite recipe is to simply stuff them with slaw, "Louie" or tuna salad, which can be served either baked or fresh. Click here for recipe ideas.

We obtained 'Red Stuffer' in a trade with a seed saver and have been growing it here on the farm since the late 1990s, predating the establishment of the Victory Seed Company. Each packet contains approximately 20 seeds.

There is a striped version and a yellow version that I've had through the years as well.

Here's a link to the German Striped stuffer, the red stuffer and Yellow Stuffer

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summerthyme

Administrator
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Not gmo, hybrid. Safe to eat but no seeds. It is likely a "sport" that someone saved, like a number of other garden plants.
I'd be tempted to buy one plant for the garden and then use over wintered cuttings for following years.
Except, being patented, it's unlikely plants are for sale (to home gardeners)... and if they are, they will come with an ironclad contract forbidding you from ANY propagation.

Summerthyme
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Well... such is life.
Yep.
I wondered at the beginning of the story if they weren't similar to the tulip bulbs that spurred such a frenzy in Europe. It turned out that the bulbs which produced the bicolored flowers were infected by a fungus...

Summerthyme
 
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