POL Tell Me How OWS Can In Anyway Be Good For America based on the Organizations Supporting It

dstraito

TB Fanatic
This Is the Comprehensive List of Those Supporting Occupy Wall St.

“Show me your friends and I’ll tell you who you are.”

That line is one of the famous “Mom-ilies” often heard in homes all around the country. Perhaps mothers have drawn this wisdom from the Bible and Proverbs 13:20:
“He who walks with wise men will be wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.”
Either way, The Blaze has presented details on the people inside the OWS movement as well as those believed to be supporting it with money, material goods (sleeping bags, non-perishable foods, etc.), organizational skills, and even storage space. We have named names from the White House to the American Nazi Party, we have shown connections to several unions (like SEIU, UFT, and TWU) and pointed out the organizers like the Working Families Party and ACORN.

This morning we ask you to consider the recently posted Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors, and sympathizers put together by intrepid blogger Zombie


Most of these supporters are enemies of America so becarefull who you align yourself with and support.



Communist Party USA


American Nazi Party


Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran


Barack Obama

The government of North Korea

Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam

Revolutionary Communist Party

David Duke

Joe Biden

Hugo Chavez

Revolutionary Guards of Iran

Black Panthers (original)

Socialist Party USA

US Border Guard

Industrial Workers of the World

CAIR

Nancy Pelosi

Communist Party of China

Hezbollah

9/11Truth.org

International Bolshevik Tendency

Anonymous

White Revolution

International Socialist Organization

PressTV (Iranian government outlet)

Marxist Student Union

Freedom Road Socialist Organization

ANSWER

Party for Socialism and Liberation



More at Link -> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-is-the-comprehensive-list-of-those-supporting-occupy-wall-st/
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Now another group that is supporting them have been listed a number of time is 'Adbusters'. I think MoveOn.Org is helping them also. This is just want I thought of the OWS crowd, that alot of them mixed up in this are nothing but a bunch of Liberal Nitwit Socialist Commies!
 

Fred's Horseradish

Membership Revoked
Obama is hoping this really breaks out in violence, so he can declare martial law and cancel elections and bring in islam and communism.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Are all of you are just fine with what's happened to our nation, our economy and the direction we're going?

Nothing to do, nothing need be changed, I got mine and screw all the rest of you, is that how it is?
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Are all of you are just fine with what's happened to our nation, our economy and the direction we're going?

Nothing to do, nothing need be changed, I got mine and screw all the rest of you, is that how it is?

There are two main groups wanting radical change. There is a group on the right and a group on the left. The group on the left is supported by communist and socialist organizations and while both groups want change, the change they want is diametrically opposed. I want almost NOTHING that this OWS group wants and the fact that the likes of HUGO Chavez supports it speaks volumes to the kinds of people that DO support this group. Nobody here said anything about change is not necessary, I think most of us don't want the kind of change as supported by the list of leftists.

So are you saying as long as we all want change the Tea Partiers and the OWS can hold hands and be UNITED in desiring CHANGE? Sounds like a Bam Bam slogan, HOPE AND CHANGE with no substance behind it.

If you aren't happy with the direction our nation is going, wait until the OWS'ers get in charge, you definitely won't be happy.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Are all of you are just fine with what's happened to our nation, our economy and the direction we're going?

Nothing to do, nothing need be changed, I got mine and screw all the rest of you, is that how it is?

Not more of this! I loathe the gloabalist/crony crapitalist/fascist/communists more than words can say. But the OWSers are a tool of the same people! If you haven't read the numerous articles detaling the leftist/globalist organizations that funded, planned and organized the OWSers you need to educate yourself! You think Soros is on the side of the little guy? Seriously?
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Not more of this! I loathe the gloabalist/crony crapitalist/fascist/communists more than words can say. But the OWSers are a tool of the same people! If you haven't read the numerous articles detaling the leftist/globalist organizations that funded, planned and organized the OWSers you need to educate yourself! You think Soros is on the side of the little guy? Seriously?

Yep, they co-opted the tea party and made it right wing politics as usual. The left will no doubt do the same to this movement.Divide and conquer is their strategy. YOu reall should spend the hour and 15 minute video i posted earlier. It's the Yes, Virginia their is an Illuminati.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Not more of this! I loathe the gloabalist/crony crapitalist/fascist/communists more than words can say. But the OWSers are a tool of the same people! If you haven't read the numerous articles detaling the leftist/globalist organizations that funded, planned and organized the OWSers you need to educate yourself! You think Soros is on the side of the little guy? Seriously?


Nice to see you've created a standard reply that you can cut and paste and add a sentence. I think I'll do the same.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I honestly believe that there are people who are involved in OWS who are not members of the listed organizations, and some of them are there with the best of intentions. However, they will be absorbed, I'm afraid, by the larger movement, and whatever good ideas and good intentions they have will be lost in the shuffle. I believe some of them will see the light and try to pull back when things get more violent, as that is not their idea of where this should go. I also think they're greatly outnumbered.
 

Rex Jackson

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90% are born again Americans which include many ex-obama supporters and ex-left wing democrats.
9% don't know what they are doing but are learning
1% are paid to go there and make the 99% look left...

guess what....
...it isn't working.

those who believe that it is best stop kidding themselves and a) get a real job or b) get out of the country while they can.

Next round of protests will be all people united. It will be called the Americans.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I didn't cut and paste it. Just hoping that someone will read the truth that is posted on that long thread.

None so blind as those who don't want to see. People who are suckered in by the OWSers are exactly the kind who were suckered in by the Communists in various communist revolutions. Stalin called them useful idiots.
 

msswv123

Veteran Member
I didn't cut and paste it. Just hoping that someone will read the truth that is posted on that long thread.

None so blind as those who don't want to see. People who are suckered in by the OWSers are exactly the kind who were suckered in by the Communists in various communist revolutions. Stalin called them useful idiots.


so watch the video truthseeker posted....and try to do it with an open mind. You might gain a new perspective of the current events.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?393106-Yes-Virginia-there-is-an-Illuminati
 

undead

Veteran Member
hmmm, now why would the Communist Party support them?...


From the Occupy Wall Street website, via Picket and Loesch:

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Unreal. So who put this together for them anyway?… Van Jones?… Media Matters?



slugs and misfits of the world unite, light up a big fat ass doobie and get out the Visa and order up a year's worth of pizza pies and cinnabons, cuz the living's gonna be good dude!!!!!
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
hmmm, now why would the Communist Party support them?...


From the Occupy Wall Street website, via Picket and Loesch:

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Unreal. So who put this together for them anyway?… Van Jones?… Media Matters?



slugs and misfits of the world unite, light up a big fat ass doobie and get out the Visa and order up a year's worth of pizza pies and cinnabons, cuz the living's gonna be good dude!!!!!

That is a big ole pile of bullshit.

Try going to a few events if you want to know want they are about...and I still stand by my original post.

The Americans are coming, and every shill and traitor will be found...because WE invented all the technology they 'try' to use against us.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
I honestly believe that there are people who are involved in OWS who are not members of the listed organizations, and some of them are there with the best of intentions. However, they will be absorbed, I'm afraid, by the larger movement, and whatever good ideas and good intentions they have will be lost in the shuffle. I believe some of them will see the light and try to pull back when things get more violent, as that is not their idea of where this should go. I also think they're greatly outnumbered.



Marx called these types of people "useful idiots."
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
There are two main groups wanting radical change. There is a group on the right and a group on the left. The group on the left is supported by communist and socialist organizations and while both groups want change, the change they want is diametrically opposed. I want almost NOTHING that this OWS group wants and the fact that the likes of HUGO Chavez supports it speaks volumes to the kinds of people that DO support this group. Nobody here said anything about change is not necessary, I think most of us don't want the kind of change as supported by the list of leftists.

So are you saying as long as we all want change the Tea Partiers and the OWS can hold hands and be UNITED in desiring CHANGE? Sounds like a Bam Bam slogan, HOPE AND CHANGE with no substance behind it.

If you aren't happy with the direction our nation is going, wait until the OWS'ers get in charge, you definitely won't be happy.



I'm hoping (and so far been disappointed) that average mainstream Americans get more involved to protest because the citizens of this country are being asked to shoulder a burden placed upon then not of their making.

I don't want to see is the rabid right create a form of fascism, where Government supports Corporations to the detriment the people. Nor do I want to see a socialist society where the incentive to work hard and produce products of value is quashed. I see both extreme right and extreme left as equally harmful to this nation.

I am an average middle of the road American. I don't subscribe to leftist ideals, nor the right wing claptrap I often read here.

I will pay taxes if not excessive, everyone pays and they are being spent wisely. I want every legislator in every city, state, and Washington DC to understand this not their money it is the citizens money that is being spent and we demand an accounting of it.

I want those same people to understand we have entrusted them to take care of the USA on our behalf, if they fail in that they will be held accountable. I want them to respect the people because we are in charge, not them, we tell them what to do.

I believe that Americans should provide for themselves first and then share with others, not the other way around. If we did this we wouldn't have 45 million Americans on food stamps. I believe that family should support family and that communities should help communities, that people should always be as self sufficient as possible.

I believe that government at all levels needs to get the hell out of people's personal lives and respect their privacy. I believe that we are in the preliminary stages of a police state because the government knows the people are not happy with them and are afraid of us.

Finally I believe we are in the first stages of a revolution as the government has become ineffective. Ineffective because of their alliances and hidden obligations to others instead of it's own people and cannot act or will not act in favor of it's citizens. The people must step provide the solutions our government will not because this nation is it's people. The strength of this nation it is not banks and corporations as neither of those amount to anything with out it's employees that work for them for a fair wage nor this nation without it's citizens who pay a fair share of taxes.

This is why I want to see citizens get involved, we are the nation, not the big shots who have screwed the pooch. With tiny numbers they will do nothing but laugh just like you are doing of the OWS'ers. Because there is no massive money, but masses of citizen resisting trump massive money. 50 million Americans, decent average Americans resist them, they will flee like cockroaches in the light. But we need to have a plan and we need to be thinking but why not start with our Constitution which seems to have been discarded by those entrusted to protect it.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
I'm hoping (and so far been disappointed) that average mainstream Americans get more involved to protest because the citizens of this country are being asked to shoulder a burden placed upon then not of their making.

"Not of their making?" Are you serious? Individual greed has a lot to play with where this country is now at this point in time. Individual greed is costing the government, a/k/a other people, tons of money. It includes a frail 91 year old who demands $150K for some medical procedure paid for by taxpayers so they can live an extra six months sitting in a bed. It includes the younger generations who engage in unsafe sex practices for their own person pleasure. They turn around and demand others pay to feed, cloth, education, and care for any offspring that come from such unsafe practices. If an STD is transmitted, they demand others pay for R&D so that drugs can be developed to treat such aliments. Oh, they also want others to pay for or subsidized the costs of those drugs as well. It includes idiots who had a combined income of $175K-$225K/year and thought they could afford a $600K+ home. Those same people want to be bailed out by others as well, but they are demanding their homes still have excessive values, because heaven forbid their home only be worth $200K!

Individual greed has caused all of our problems. From lending for homes and higher ed, to the cradle to the grave welfare lifestyle. The people voted for their representatives. They voted for more and more debt, for the military industrial complex, for the real estate industrial complex. People don't want to think about these things logically anymore, and only a few issues are so absurd that it wakes people grumble, i.e. Bridge to nowhere.

Finally I believe we are in the first stages of a revolution as the government has become ineffective. The strength of this nation it is not banks and corporations as neither of those amount to anything with out it's employees that work for them for a fair wage nor this nation without it's citizens who pay a fair share of taxes.

The problem is some of our citizens have no problem being like their own little bank CEOs. They demand others subsidize many things so that their own personal life is grand. Now the house of cards is falling, and those "poor" greedy folks living in what was once a $600K McMansion are upset because the government is taking from others to bail them out.

I wonder where this country is heading. We are having states threaten to leave, passing laws declaring independence in some areas. We have union riots. We had fights between tea party folks and those who opposed them. We now have fights between OWS types and cops. We had a lot of incidents of small to large groups of black kids, likely from the lower class, attacking totally innocent people. We had other racial attacks where it seems young white kids aren't embarrassing the "lets all get along" idea of racial harmony (a black guy killed by dragging him from a truck).

Things will likely get worse this coming election season. It could get very ugly, but the fact will remain we will have a % of the population who claims to want things be x, y, and z, and if you look deep enough, that x, y, and z benefit them in some fashion at the expense of others (and no, not just "the rich").
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
"Not of their making?" Are you serious? Individual greed has a lot to play with where this country is now at this point in time. Individual greed is costing the government, a/k/a other people, tons of money. It includes a frail 91 year old who demands $150K for some medical procedure paid for by taxpayers so they can live an extra six months sitting in a bed. It includes the younger generations who engage in unsafe sex practices for their own person pleasure. They turn around and demand others pay to feed, cloth, education, and care for any offspring that come from such unsafe practices. If an STD is transmitted, they demand others pay for R&D so that drugs can be developed to treat such aliments. Oh, they also want others to pay for or subsidized the costs of those drugs as well. It includes idiots who had a combined income of $175K-$225K/year and thought they could afford a $600K+ home. Those same people want to be bailed out by others as well, but they are demanding their homes still have excessive values, because heaven forbid their home only be worth $200K!

Individual greed has caused all of our problems. From lending for homes and higher ed, to the cradle to the grave welfare lifestyle. The people voted for their representatives. They voted for more and more debt, for the military industrial complex, for the real estate industrial complex. People don't want to think about these things logically anymore, and only a few issues are so absurd that it wakes people grumble, i.e. Bridge to nowhere.



The problem is some of our citizens have no problem being like their own little bank CEOs. They demand others subsidize many things so that their own personal life is grand. Now the house of cards is falling, and those "poor" greedy folks living in what was once a $600K McMansion are upset because the government is taking from others to bail them out.

I wonder where this country is heading. We are having states threaten to leave, passing laws declaring independence in some areas. We have union riots. We had fights between tea party folks and those who opposed them. We now have fights between OWS types and cops. We had a lot of incidents of small to large groups of black kids, likely from the lower class, attacking totally innocent people. We had other racial attacks where it seems young white kids aren't embarrassing the "lets all get along" idea of racial harmony (a black guy killed by dragging him from a truck).

Things will likely get worse this coming election season. It could get very ugly, but the fact will remain we will have a % of the population who claims to want things be x, y, and z, and if you look deep enough, that x, y, and z benefit them in some fashion at the expense of others (and no, not just "the rich").

:applaud::applaud::applaud:

The groups supporting OWS want nothing less than the destruction of the country as you and I have known it.

OWS is a symptom of the illness in our country.
You don't fix an illness by giving in to the symptoms. You recognize the underlying illness and treat the illness.

The government should not bail out students, homeowners or banks.
The government has no business providing welfare or supplimentary income of any form to anyone simply because they dont have a job or make enough money.
The social security program should be wound down. Since money was taken from individuals by force, they should get what they paid in, adjusted for inflation, minus what they have already been paid. If they invest it wisely or they squander it stupidly, it's their problem.

None of what I said is likely to happen. Our economy and most likely our country will crash and then all of us will lose everything. Except those rich people everyone likes to hate.
Don't any of you recognize ourselves in the spoiled tantrums of the Greek population??
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"a form of fascism, where Government supports Corporations to the detriment the people"

I'd say we're there. Which sucks BIGTIME. Problem is, the reaction to that will be socialism/communism, which is even worse.

Constitutionalism is, IMO, the answer to the government's role---economically, I support distributism (maximum number of property owners and producers in a society) but failing that, a capitalism that has nothing to gain from government (bailouts/influence/eminent domain favors, etc.) seems like a better option than either what we have now, which doesn't work, or the Marxist solution, which doesn't work any better.
 
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