POL Tea Party turmoil erupts as volunteers quit

FarmerJohn

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BY NATE RAU AND CHAS SISK • THE TENNESSEAN • JANUARY 17, 2010

The national Tea Party convention scheduled to take place in Nashville next month — featuring Sarah Palin as its keynote speaker — fell into turmoil last week.

Tea Party Nation, the locally based group organizing the sold-out event, got its first taste of trouble Tuesday when a key volunteer announced he and others had quit the group. They claimed the event's $549 ticket price was designed to make a profit off the popularity of the grass-roots campaign.

By week's end, the national media were putting intense pressure on founder Judson Phillips after Tea Party Nation announced that only five, right-leaning media outlets would be allowed access to the event.

NBC News reported Friday, and The Tennessean confirmed, that Phillips, a Franklin attorney, had filed for Chapter 7 personal bankruptcy in 1999 and faced three federal tax liens since 2004 totaling more than $22,000.

Phillips said in an interview with The Tennessean that Tea Party Nation had been set up as a for-profit company but denied allegations of profiteering.

"We're running a fairly tight margin," he said. "Right now, if everything plays out the way we want it to be, we're going to break even."

The convention is planned for Feb. 4-6 at the Gaylord Opryland Resort & Convention Center. In addition to Palin, Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann are on the agenda to speak.

The fact that Tea Party Nation would be structured as a for-profit organization prompted its former webmaster, Kevin Smith, to explain his decision to leave the organization in a blog post last week that continues to ripple across the Internet.

Smith said the Tea Party began as a grass-roots campaign favoring small government and responsible spending and was being overrun by the national Republican Party looking to use the fervor of Tea Party supporters to its advantage.

"It's become clear to me that Judson and his for-profit Tea Party Nation Corporation are at the forefront of the GOP's process of hijacking the Tea Party movement," Smith wrote in his blog.

"What began as cries for true liberty and a public showing of frustration with the big government policies of both Democrats and Republicans has now been co-opted by mainstream Republican demagogues determined to use this as their 2010 election platform."

In response to Smith's post, one of Tea Party Nation's top sponsors, the American Liberty Alliance, pulled out of the convention.

The Alliance said in a news release it was concerned with how Tea Party Nation was organized. Those who signed up for the convention paid for their tickets through a PayPal account set up through Phillips' wife's e-mail address.

"To be clear, the for-profit model has its place in the movement. Many, many groups in the movement operate this way," American Liberty Alliance's executive director Eric Odom wrote in a statement.

"But these groups should always have boards and oversight, and should never, ever process donations through personal PayPal accounts."

Phillips said disgruntled volunteers have misunderstood how proceeds would be used and the structure of the group's corporate organization.

PayPal payments were always directed to a Tea Party Nation bank account, not a personal account, he said.

Smith and others might have thought they were misdirected because his wife, who keeps records for the company, set up the account to send e-mail confirmations of transactions directly to her, Phillips said.

"We just didn't think about it," he said.

Phillips said he founded Tea Party Nation as a for-profit company mainly for philosophical reasons.

The for-profit corporation lets him avoid disclosure requirements that might have forced him to reveal the identity of donors, who then could be subjected to harassment for their views, Phillips said.

"I'm a capitalist, but my vision for Tea Party Nation has always been to start it up as something that will offer products or services and the revenues that we receive from that will be used to support our other activities," Phillips said.


"When we were starting this up, a number of people said to me, 'If I'm going to make a donation, I would prefer to make it to a for-profit.' "

As for the NBC News story on Phillips' personal finances, the network reported that Phillips said he has paid off the tax liens, but would not comment on the bankruptcy filing.

Media Invites Limited

Media access to the convention also emerged as a point of contention with the group last week.

Tea Party Nation initially planned to bar media coverage, but Palin objected and requested her speech be open to the public. In response, the group announced that it would offer media credentials only to Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, Townhall.com, Breitbart.com and World Net Daily. All are seen to some extent as having conservative-leaning outlooks.

Palin told Fox News last week she "will not financially be gaining anything" from her appearance at the convention.

News of the limited media coverage, combined with the financial structure of Tea Party Nation, led some outspoken conservatives, including former Tennessee GOP spokesman Bill Hobbs, to criticize the convention.

"The Tea Party movement needs to be open and transparent just like they want their government to be," said Hobbs, who added that he supports the ideals of the grass-roots movement.

Phillips said the initial plan to bar the media reflected the convention's original purpose as an opportunity for Tea Party activists to network and get training.

But as the event garnered more attention, Phillips said his organization had to figure out ways to handle an onslaught of media requests without having the event swamped by reporters.

"This thing has just exploded on us in the last 10 days," he said.

Video feeds and pool arrangements to give more media access to the event are under consideration, Phillips said.

Blackburn To Attend

The negative publicity won't deter Blackburn, the Brentwood Republican who attended Tea Party rallies last year and announced she is still on board for next month's convention.

Blackburn's role will be to introduce Palin at the convention.

"It isn't about the sponsors; it's about the attendees," Blackburn spokesman Claude Chafin said. "Just because people are for-profit doesn't mean that the attendees are any less grass-roots than they would have been otherwise. The congressman has spoken at Tea Parties and we hope to again."

Marcus Pohlmann, a political science professor at Rhodes College, complimented the Tea Party movement for earning the support of those who had been turned off to government and politics. But he said it will have to build a specific platform if it wants to influence the process going forward.

"The Tea Party seems to be rallying emotional support in a way the Republican Party is not," Pohlmann said.

"It could become a MoveOn.org (a Democratic grass-roots campaign). It could even become more than that. But in order to do that, it must become more specific on where it stands on the policy issues of the day."

Pohlmann also questioned whether charging so much to attend the first convention and banquet runs counter to the populist ideals of the original Boston Tea Party, from which the movement takes its name.

"It doesn't sound like much of a populist approach," Pohlmann said. "When I think of the Boston Tea Party, I think of populism — the little guy standing up to the bailouts and to the big corporations."

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Dennis Olson

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and faced three federal tax liens since 2004 totaling more than $22,000.


So he's a democrat? :dvl1:


The fact that Tea Party Nation would be structured as a for-profit organization prompted its former webmaster, Kevin Smith, to explain his decision to leave the organization in a blog post last week that continues to ripple across the Internet.


Let me explain something about this. When I incorporated TB2K (against my will as many of you know), I reviewed all the options, from S-corp to C-corp, LLP, 501(c)7, etc. I found that if you create a non-profit, ANYONE can file a complaint against you with the government FOR ANY REASON, and you have to answer the complaint(s). That being said, if he'd created a non-profit, how much of his time would have been spent answering "complaints" filed by the rat bastard dems...?
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
supply and demand. there's only so many seats, it's already sold out. you can watch it on the news, but in order to get this party REALL rolling, they need support and the ears and minds of WEALTHY conservatives. If you're a conservative, and can spend %549 on a plate.. we REALLY want to talk to you about where the future of this country is going!!

I agree with this guys logic all the way, donors dont wanted outted and harrassed, and conservatives believe in capitalism.. it's a little bit like practice what you preach.. sure it seems like you would want to do this for free if you believed in it that much, but if what you believe in 'that much' is that nothing is free, and you're trying to rally that cause.. nobody should have a problem contributing to it.. the guy is bankrupt, he might make it rich in the future, but it will be through nothing but his own ideas ambition and gumption: An American Capitalist Conservative success story. hypocritical of him would be handing out a service.. that sounds like socialism to me! I bet Moveon.0rg is run by volunteers, and probably recieving handout on food/ housing because they don't work for a living:kk1: WE PAY THEM. somebody always pays. nothing is free. nothing 'just happens'. Labor, time, accomplishments, all are paid for, one way or the other.
 

TimeTraveler

Veteran Member
This is what happens to many organizations once they reach the National level. The money making vultures move in and push out the founding group of people. At that point it's all about the money. TT
 

IDK

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Tea party died when it decided to exclude media that was the sign the WRONG people were in control
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
supply and demand. there's only so many seats, it's already sold out. you can watch it on the news, but in order to get this party REALL rolling, they need support and the ears and minds of WEALTHY conservatives. If you're a conservative, and can spend %549 on a plate.. we REALLY want to talk to you about where the future of this country is going!!

I agree with this guys logic all the way, donors dont wanted outted and harrassed, and conservatives believe in capitalism.. it's a little bit like practice what you preach.. sure it seems like you would want to do this for free if you believed in it that much, but if what you believe in 'that much' is that nothing is free, and you're trying to rally that cause.. nobody should have a problem contributing to it.. the guy is bankrupt, he might make it rich in the future, but it will be through nothing but his own ideas ambition and gumption: An American Capitalist Conservative success story. hypocritical of him would be handing out a service.. that sounds like socialism to me! I bet Moveon.0rg is run by volunteers, and probably recieving handout on food/ housing because they don't work for a living:kk1: WE PAY THEM. somebody always pays. nothing is free. nothing 'just happens'. Labor, time, accomplishments, all are paid for, one way or the other.

excellent, enlightened post.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It's all about ornanization and structure. If you don't have the ground work laid for when you do go national, things will get messy when you do. Also not many folks can handle large sums of money without the greed bug settling in.

As far as the per person ticket price, it is more than likely due to the high cost of where they are hosting, plus Palin's requirements. And if the libs want to be real difficult they can force the hosting org to pay for all security out of pocket. Factor in that a police officer as security is 25/hour or so on duty cost wise.

Just to have the full I-75 expo center in full it is 10k per day not including chairs, seats, plugs, cords, audio gear, speakers, gaffs, recording gear. Downtown Knox convention center is just as bad.
 
The Great Tea Party Rip-Off

. . . and now something from the NYT -- methinks that the MSM is up to their usual shenanigans, by trying to promote their liberal agenda via "push" articles, though have NO doubt that the RNC PTB would LOVE to get their hands on the Tea Party steering wheel.

Caveat emptor — let the buyer beware.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/opinion/17rich.html?th&emc=th

The Great Tea Party Rip-Off

By FRANK RICH

Published: January 16, 2010

Even given the low bar set by America’s bogus conversations about race, the short-lived Harry Reid fracas was a most peculiar nonevent. For all the hyperventilation in cable news land, this supposed racial brawl didn’t seem to generate any controversy whatsoever in what is known as the real world.

Eugene Robinson, the liberal black columnist at The Washington Post, wrote that he was “neither shocked nor outraged” at Reid’s less-than-articulate observation that Barack Obama benefited politically from being “light-skinned” and for lacking a “Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one.” Besides, Robinson said, Reid’s point was “surely true.” The black conservative Ward Connerly agreed, writing in The Wall Street Journal that he was “having a difficult time determining what it was that Mr. Reid said that was so offensive.”

President Obama immediately granted Reid absolution. A black columnist at The Daily News in New York, Stanley Crouch, even stood up for the archaic usage of “Negro.” George Will defended Reid from charges of racism as vociferously as Democrats did. Al Sharpton may have accepted Reid’s apology, but for once there’s no evidence that he ever cared enough to ask for one. So who, actually, was the aggrieved party here? What — or who — was really behind this manufactured race war with no victims?

It would be easy to dismiss the entire event as a credulous news media’s collaboration with a publisher’s hype for a new tell-all-gossip 2008 campaign book, “Game Change,” which breathlessly broke the Reid “bombshell.” But this is a more interesting tale than that. The true prime mover in this story was not a book publicist but Michael Steele, the chairman of the Republican Party and by far the loudest and most prominent Beltway figure demanding that Reid resign as Senate majority leader as punishment for his “racism.”

Steele is widely regarded as a clown by observers of all political persuasions, but he is clownish like a fox. His actions in this incident offer some hilarious and instructive insights into what’s going on in the Republican hierarchy right now as it tries to cope not just with our first African-American president but with a restive base embracing right-wing tea-party populism that loathes the establishment in both parties. And though Steele is black, and perhaps the most enthusiastic player of the race card in American politics today, race was a red herring in his Reid vendetta. It threw most everyone off the scent of his real motivation, which had nothing to do with black versus white but everything to do with green, as in money.

A profligate spender, Steele had inaugurated his arrival as party chairman by devoting nearly $20,000 to redecorate his office because he found it “way too male” for his sensitive tastes. In the weeks just before “Game Change” emerged, Steele was in more hot water. Over the holidays, G.O.P. elders were shocked to learn that their front man had a side career as a motivational public speaker at up to $20,000 a gig. The party treasury, which contained $22.8 million upon Steele’s arrival at the end of January 2009, was down to $8.7 million by late November, with 2010 campaign expenditures rapidly arriving. “He needs to raise money for the party, not his wallet,” one Republican leader griped to Politico.

Then, just after New Year, Steele published an unexpected book of his own, “Right Now: A 12-Step Program for Defeating the Obama Agenda.” He hadn’t told his employers that the book was in the works, and, to add further insult, he attacks unnamed party leaders in its pages for forsaking conservative principles. Since it hit the stores, Steele has pursued a book tour for fun and personal profit, all the while daring his G.O.P. critics to bring it on. “If you don’t want me in the job, fire me,” he taunted them. “But until then, shut up. Get with the program, or get out of the way.”

Fire him? Steele knows better than anyone that his party can’t afford what Clarence Thomas might call a “high-tech lynching” of the only visible black guy it has in even a second-tier office. Steele has said that white Republicans are “scared” of him. They are. He loves to play head games with their racial paranoia and insecurities, whether he’s publicly professing “slum love” for the Indian-American Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindal, or starting a blog on the R.N.C. site titled “What Up?,” or announcing that he would use “fried chicken and potato salad” to recruit minority voters. As long as the G.O.P. remains largely a whites-only country club, Steele has job security. But he had real reason to fear some new restraints on the cash box; last year the party was driven to write a rule requiring him to get approval for expenditures over $100,000.

On Jan. 9 The Washington Post ran a front-page article headlined “Frustrations With Steele Leaving G.O.P. in a Bind,” reporting, among other embarrassments, that the party had spent $90 million during Steele’s brief reign while raising just $84 million. Enter “Game Change,” right in the nick of time for Steele to pull off his own cunning game change. On Jan. 10 he stormed “Fox News Sunday” and “Meet the Press” to demand Reid’s head. There has been hardly a mention of Steele’s sins since. He can laugh all the way to the bank.

His behavior is not anomalous. Steele is representative of a fascinating but little noted development on the right: the rise of buckrakers who are exploiting the party’s anarchic confusion and divisions to cash in for their own private gain. In this cause, Steele is emulating no one if not Sarah Palin, whose hunger for celebrity and money outstrips even his own. As many suspected at the time, her 2008 campaign wardrobe, like the doomed campaign itself, was just a preview of coming attractions: she would surely dump the bother of serving as Alaska’s besieged governor for a lucrative star turn on Fox News. Last week she made it official.

Both Steele and Palin claim to be devotees of the tea party movement. “I’m a tea partier, I’m a town-haller, I’m a grass-roots-er” is how Steele put it in a recent radio interview, wet-kissing a market he hopes will buy his book. Palin has far more grandiose ambitions. She recently signed on as a speaker for the first Tea Party Convention, scheduled next month in Nashville — even though she had turned down a speaking invitation from the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, the traditional meet-and-greet for the right. The conservative conference doesn’t pay. The Tea Party Convention does. A blogger at Nashville Scene reported that Palin’s price for the event was $120,000.

The entire Tea Party Convention is a profit-seeking affair charging $560 a ticket — plus the cost of a room at the Opryland Hotel. Among the convention’s eight listed sponsors is Tea Party Emporium, which gives as its contact address 444 Madison Avenue in New York, also home to the high-fashion brand Burberry. This emporium’s Web site offers a bejeweled tea bag at $89.99 for those furious at “a government hell bent on the largest redistribution of wealth in history.” This is almost as shameless as Glenn Beck, whose own tea party profiteering has included hawking gold coins merchandised by a sponsor of his radio show.

Last week a prominent right-wing blogger, Erick Erickson of RedState.com, finally figured out that the Tea Party Convention “smells scammy,” likening it to one of those Nigerian e-mails promising untold millions. Such rumbling about the movement’s being co-opted by hucksters may explain why Palin used her first paid appearance at Fox last Tuesday to tell Bill O’Reilly that she would recycle her own tea party profits in political contributions. But Erickson had it right: the tea party movement is being exploited — and not just by marketers, lobbyists, political consultants and corporate interests but by the Republican Party, as exemplified by Palin and Steele, its most prominent leaders.

Tea partiers hate the G.O.P. establishment and its Wall Street allies, starting with the Bushies who created TARP, almost as much as they do Obama and his Wall Street pals. When Steele and Palin pay lip service to the movement, they are happy to glom on to its anti-tax, anti-Obama, anti-government, anti-big-bank vitriol. But they don’t call for any actual action against the bailed-out perpetrators of the financial crisis. They’d never ask for investments to put ordinary Americans back to work. They have no policies to forestall foreclosures or protect health insurance for the tea partiers who’ve been shafted by hard times. Their only economic principle beside tax cuts is vilification of the stimulus that did save countless jobs for firefighters, police officers and teachers at the state and local level.

The Democrats’ efforts to counter the deprivation and bitterness spawned by the Great Recession are indeed timid and imperfect. The right has a point when it says that the Senate health care votes of Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana were bought with pork. But at least their constituents can share the pigout. Hustlers like Steele and Palin take the money and run. All their followers get in exchange is a lousy tea party T-shirt. Or a ghost-written self-promotional book. Or a tepid racial sideshow far beneath the incendiary standards of the party whose history from Strom to “macaca” has driven away nearly every black American except Steele for the past 40 years.
 
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I wonder what the 2010 equivalent of the original TP would be. Certainly not this irrelevant BS. All of the above has been tried before - and all of it failed. Protest, letter-writing, politics, all of it. Which explains such low participation and level of interest.
 

ElkHollow

Veteran Member
I will tell you all right now and ya better believe it.. The tea party is not dead!!! Far from it we ARE AS ENERGIZED AS EVER!! When I hear this kind of negativity it reminds me of a bunch of cry baby liberals, Weeping because we have the forward energy and drive now and we don't give a DAMN what the Lame stream media thinks, they are irrelevant anymore..And there is NOTHING wrong with charging a few bucks to get in to the hall if people are willing to happily pay it! That's Capitalism baby!!! Capitalism RULES!!!!! No other system has raised so many people world wide out of poverty.. Ya think Communism/Socialism has lifted up so many people out of poverty??? Even China has been flirting with their own brand of Capitalism and more of the Chinese people are prospering, Not prospering like Americans have but they are coming out of poverty somewhat..

RANT OFF!!!!;)

ELK.............................
 
I will tell you all right now and ya better believe it.. The tea party is not dead!!! Far from it we ARE AS ENERGIZED AS EVER!! When I hear this kind of negativity it reminds me of a bunch of cry baby liberals, Weeping because we have the forward energy and drive now and we don't give a DAMN what the Lame stream media thinks, they are irrelevant anymore..And there is NOTHING wrong with charging a few bucks to get in to the hall if people are willing to happily pay it! That's Capitalism baby!!! Capitalism RULES!!!!! No other system has raised so many people world wide out of poverty.. Ya think Communism/Socialism has lifted up so many people out of poverty??? Even China has been flirting with their own brand of Capitalism and more of the Chinese people are prospering, Not prospering like Americans have but they are coming out of poverty somewhat..

RANT OFF!!!!;)

ELK.............................

Bear in mind that there are two genres -- capitalism as taught by the Austrian economists, and rapacious capitalism as practiced by Wall Street/banksters/energy industry/Goldman Sachs-types.

Which is in YOUR wallet?


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