KMR58
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Same here. Said never again.
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nomifyle
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This is me, and no flu shot ever and I'm most likely will never get another tetanus shot either. I'm skeptical about any kind of injection. I recently got a toradol shot for my knee. It helped a lot but I'm not sure I'll get another one. I have serious trust issues.
X a million.
db cooper
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So if fewer than 10% die from these shots or fewer than 50% have serious side effects, then the FDA will approve it.
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33dInd
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I always keep my tetanus shot up
I saw. SAW my cousin die from this in 59
And your right
It’s horrible
Imagine that Charlie horse muscle cramp in your leg
Multiply that over your whole body
Muscle after muscle
Cramping
Tightening
Never relaxing
Until bones start to break
And more bones
Not a way to go
Just shoot yourselves
luluwhtbrd
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Bob the Builder
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20 years in EMS and saw a small amount of slight of hand being done. From now on if I need and injection I will ask that the unopened box be brought into the room and opened where I can watch. I will be given the package insert for perusal and watch the compound being drawn.
If I am not allowed that then there will be no injection given.
It will be a long time before I need an injection of anything, I can promise.
If I am not allowed that then there will be no injection given.
It will be a long time before I need an injection of anything, I can promise.
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Squib
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I spent 15 years in a large metro area in EMS, and I agree with you.
Its almost like getting an opened bottle of water brought to your table at a restaurant in Mexico vs. being brought an unopened bottle!
Was in a third world country once years ago, and the water in the bottles was cloudy…I looked and the bottle’s seal was opened…I asked the young girl waitress and she said,
”Oh yes, we reuse the bottles from the customers and refill them from our faucet.”
Thing is, in a large enough conspiracy, could you really assure that the very preloaded syringes and vials would be safe?
Some have said that there were different lots which held different substances …some were benign, simply Saline, and others held the bad stuff!
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I got one ten yrs ago. I was making a temporary chick pen, the wind came up and while wrestling the whole darned pen blowing in the wind, shoe came off, stepped on a nail. Outside. At 69, not getting anymore shots. Ever.
Meadowlark
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Most people dont remember the swine flu scare of the mid 1970s. Those in charge were prepared to vaccinate the entire population. In hindsight, the flu shots killed more people than the swine flu. 
I remember. 5 people died, and they immediately scrapped the entire plan.Most people dont remember the swine flu scare of the mid 1970s. Those in charge were prepared to vaccinate the entire population. In hindsight, the flu shots killed more people than the swine flu.
Compare and contrast...
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ssbn642blue
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Navy, got out in 1987, same here. Have not had a shot since. Nor ever again.
My dad had lung cancer and I was taking him for Cobalt treatments, they would nor let me in the facility with him without getting it. Made me so sick,but in 2006 or 2007 when swine flu came around again i was only one in company that did not get it.
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Is tetanus in a single dose vial, so it is practical to insist on seeing being opened, etc?
ainitfunny
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RUST has only incidental influence in the matter, in that it is A ROUGH SURFACE and likely to harbor all kinds of germs in the pits and uneven surface.
THATS ALL rust has to do with tetanus.
Like someone else said tetanus is in the soil.
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ainitfunny
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Tetanus vaccine, for as long as i remember, comes mixed WITH Whooping cough and Diptheria vaccine. Commonly called a DPT shot. All babies have gotten it at 6 weeks.
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ainitfunny
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Tetanus vaccine usually comes mixed WITH Whooping cough and Diptheria vaccine. Commonly called a DPT shot.
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Also consider, if it is rusted, it’s probably been in dirt and crud to get rusted.
Not the veterinary version. Which, coincidentally, is bottled from the same lines as the "no l9nger (easily) available human stuff.
Just saying.
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willowlady
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My daughter received zero vaccines until she was six months old. She got her first and only DPT at that time. It created a huge, fiery lump on her thigh, and I refused to have her further vaxxed with that shot. After that she got tetanus only. She had the lump until she was about six years old, at which point it became a depression in the muscle. I lied to the schools; you could get away with it in those days. I will never get another flu shot.
I got one twice in my life and was sick the entire winter with bouts of flu, both times. I have explained to my doctors -- who assure me that I cannot catch flu from the shots -- that perhaps I didn't have the specified flu, but likely the shot somehow depressed my immune system and allowed me to catch some other variety. They don't press me further. I get the flu about once every seven years and it's gone in two days. The years I got the shots, it was seven-day bouts each time. I'd rather catch it naturally and have it over and done in two days -- every few years.
That's what I had to do for 7 foals a few years back... that year convinced many of the Amish to ignore the prohibition against any sort of "routine preventative" vax. Especially when a young man, 21, developed tetanus. He survived after several weeks in an artificial coma, on a respirator and paralyzed with curare, to keep the muscle spasms from break8ng his spine. His bill was over a million dollars.
The foals contracted it through their open umbilical cords.... common if they are born in a stall, as horse manure is a natural reservoir for tetanus spores, but that spring was wet, so even pasture born foals were getting it from the mud.
I hate shooting sick or injured animals, but I'd usually end up doing it for the owner so they didn't have to. But it was also such a blessing... those muscles even stayed rigid in death! Damndest thing.
I will say, in horses, they often die quite quickly of what I suspect is a meningitis, sometimes before the spasms get too severe. One owner wanted to try and save a nice Haflinger gelding after I diagnosed tetanus... the horse had all the symptoms, but was still trying to eat and drink, so I called the vet for him. The vet got there 2 hours later, but the horse had already died.
NASTY disease.
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If that's your only option, sure. Reactions as an adult to any of these are minimal. Tetanus makes a pretty sore arm for most for a couple of days. If you ever did have a reaction to the other two, see if your doctor can get the tetanus only vax.
I *think*, but don't know, that tetanus antitoxin, which is a short term "quick fix" to prevent someone with no antibodies from developing tetanus is only tetanus.
And you'd still need a dose of tetanus toxoid.
Summerthyme
Tetanus is the one and only vaccine I will take. The reason being Tetanus is one of the worst ways to die next to being drawn and quartered while conscious. Dear Lord, that is one I wouldn't wish on a living creature. It was dreamed up in the bowels of hell just for the devil's kicks and giggles.
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They’ve done that by lunch!
This. You do NOT want to contract tetanus. Ever.
I was going to get one at docs last time I was there because it’s way overdue. She said to wait and see if you have injury and then get WITHIN 48 hours. Well, I think this is wrong thinking, but will see what new doc says. I need to get it because I’m on a farm and go barefoot all the time. And you know when all this happens: during a weekend or holiday. I am so sorry, just thought it was poor advice. But then I’m not as edjumacated as she is.
You tell your doc that you get a "contaminated injury" at least weekly! Any puncture below the skin, when you haven't scrubbed since you were playing in the dirt, has the *potential * to cause tetanus.
Doc is a dumbass. If you do get a bad puncture, you’ll need the quick acting antitoxin, which is only good for a couple of weeks, because it's been so long since you got a booster. Then you still need to get the tetanus toxoid booster.
BTW, our old farm vet told us the vet tetanus shots (both toxoid and antitoxin) are made on the same lines as the stuff for people. Just different labels slapped on the bottles. FWIW.
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Just like the fish tetanus shots.
Huh. Interesting (but not surprising) on the animals. And yeah, that was my last visit with her. Just can’t really fix stuff like a city minded doc. Of course the one I have now looks like he should be on a runway. Not sure where he’s from, but I am positive that if I asked he would provide.
Heard story the other night about someone going to two providers after injury and none would give her T shot. She finally had to go to health department. That had something to do w insurance though. STILL. I don’t get it.
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Turns out I had one in 2020. Guess I was thinking ahead.