PREP Take A Look At The Bunker (storm shelter) Lowes Sells - $6,300 installed?

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
This is dated Oct 5, 2017. Then the price was: $2,995 installation: $3278,57. Not sure if the $3,300 includes the cost of the shelter of is extra? Unit is small with no amenities. - OGM

Take A Look At The Bunker Lowes Sells
Keeping It Dutch
Published on Oct 5, 2017

Here is a quick video of a bunker tornado storm shelter that they are selling at lowes. They are going for $3200 installed, cheap way to protect your family.

link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGHeR463Fhc

Run time 2:47
 

BornFree

Came This Far
It would work for very short term protection. It seems too small for anything more than that. I think this is designed as a "Storm" shelter only.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
It would work for very short term protection. It seems too small for anything more than that. I think this is designed as a "Storm" shelter only.
Not everyone here can afford a decommissioned NIKE Base. ;)

What about getting one for each member of the family. Dig a deep hole insert shelters connect doors with a large metal culvert, extend air duct work, top with filters and bury? Would that work? A little welding, air conduit, filters, some concrete and concrete sealant and a back hoe?
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I would shop it out for a bit.

There is a seller/installer in every little town around here.

Lowe's probably subs it out to one of these guys and puts their cut on it.

They can sell financing tho.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I would shop it out for a bit.

There is a seller/installer in every little town around here.

Lowe's probably subs it out to one of these guys and puts their cut on it.

They can sell financing tho.
The seller/installer, hypothetically could customize it? Make it larger?
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Not really, they are cast in steel molds that aren't easily modified.

Different manufacturers may have different molds tho.
 

Used Camels

Inactive
It's a tornado shelter--not something that would be called a bunker in the industry. That is because it is not fully buried. For NBC purposes, it would not protect you.

If you want a true NBC bunker, I would also recommend against concrete as it eventually leaks and disintegrates (look at any old missile silo or war bunkers in normal non-desert climates).
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
its NOT a bunker, its a small friggin storm shelter nothing else.
It is designed for those yards where no access for construction equipment equipment of flooding issues are.
they average 8x8
thats 64 square feet.
Lots of luck riding out the apocalypse
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Looks like a temporary tornado/storm shelter at best. Can't see a group of people living in that thing for any length of time. But, the price is pretty decent.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In the city (pop. 10,000) where we shop every month or two they sell and install the bunkers made out of steel culverts. We drive past some they have on display. I'm sure they can make them to most any size and shape.
 

ibetiny

Veteran Member
What about steel conex boxes? Around here you can get good ones 40' for around 2,500 to 3,500. Reinforce the tops and sides then bury on gravel for drainage.....yada yada yada. For under 5,000 you have a 40x8 bunker. connect two or more for a "complex"...........
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
$3200 installed. Not bad for something you can have in a couple of days.

I built a copy of this one for a little over $7K but it took three years and a lot of scrounging and is a true fallout shelter. I added a mini split AC unit last year and it could double as a meat locker.


Dont think for a second that you can cobble together a fallout shelter in a few days or even weeks if SHTF. Make one now while you can then spend the time needed to properly stock it.

shelter-kit-build-02-07-2000w.jpg
 

West

Senior
We have a 'fraidy hole. IIRC we paid $2500 installed. Basically a sewer tank.

Would like to build our own, just need a backhoe..someday I'll get one.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
most of the concrete pre-fab places make something similar for outdoor basement access - has the steel doors, steps and bolts up to the home's concrete foundation wall ...
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
So much for that brilliant idea. At least it got some input and I learned something.

My question is why does the door open out? If there is debris flying around in a tornado or storm, likely to land on the entrance, wouldn't it be better for the door to open into the shelter?
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Not everyone here can afford a decommissioned NIKE Base. ;)

Heck I can't afford a decomissioned Nike running shoe :lol:

Would love to have an underground shelter of some description, money just isn't there, maybe I'll go diy and use logs or something, I've seen them done with sandbags, another was done using 2 concrete septic tanks,
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
If you start to think CONEX box, you best have done a full set of research on shoring underground, because the CONEX box won't support earth much farther than halfway up its sides. Yeah, that means supporting HORIZONTALLY the walls of the CONEX box. AND shoring up the top.

There HAVE to be vids on FAILblog.org showing the people's faces as the boxes collapse.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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If you start to think CONEX box, you best have done a full set of research on shoring underground, because the CONEX box won't support earth much farther than halfway up its sides. Yeah, that means supporting HORIZONTALLY the walls of the CONEX box. AND shoring up the top.

There HAVE to be vids on FAILblog.org showing the people's faces as the boxes collapse.

I've posted pics on several occasions that showed boxes that had been beefed up for burial. These were from "commercial" outfits, FWIW.

Less steel added than I would have put.

Looked like they were coated with bedliner.
 

Used Camels

Inactive
If you start to think CONEX box, you best have done a full set of research on shoring underground, because the CONEX box won't support earth much farther than halfway up its sides. Yeah, that means supporting HORIZONTALLY the walls of the CONEX box. AND shoring up the top.

There HAVE to be vids on FAILblog.org showing the people's faces as the boxes collapse.

I was going to say something but most folks just don't want to hear it.

I was obliged to try to explain that to folks when I was selling legitimate steel-plate shelter/bunkers around the country; most simply can't look beyond the price tag and they reason that if it looks like a bunker, it must be a bunker.

Yep--freight containers are engineered to withstand vertical forces solely via the 4 corners of those containers. Lateral forces? No way. They serve a wonderful purpose of storing stuff above ground. But they are not storm shelters and certainly should not be used underground for any purpose other than potentially using it as a poured concrete form (hopefully with a great deal of rebar and/or other steel reinforcement within the pour).

If you do want a decent shelter, you need to ask what threats you want to protect your family from. If an NBC shelter is what you decide on, figure you need to spend $ accordingly. After all, you want a very strong structure that will withstand subterranean forces and conditions for a long period of time. If not properly constructed, time will eventually cause that structure to fail--hopefully not with someone inside. And with that eventuality, why would you even want to put something underground that could kill someone in the name of trying save a few bucks.

If you are going to DIY a shelter, my best advice would be for you to consult with a structural engineer who has some related experience.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So much for that brilliant idea. At least it got some input and I learned something.

My question is why does the door open out? If there is debris flying around in a tornado or storm, likely to land on the entrance, wouldn't it be better for the door to open into the shelter?

Door is WAY stronger if it opens out.
 

Used Camels

Inactive
Any reputable shelter builder will make available a multi-ton hydraulic jack to push the hatch open if need be. Larger shelters will also have emergency exits.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
My roof has 10" steel I beams 32" on center. I center drilled all of them 12" apart in seven places to fish #5 rebar through the entire length of the roof (I beams go short ways on the top, rebar goes logways). All cells of my block have rebar from slab to top, then bent over 90" with 24" of steel overlapping the rebar in the roof. The entire roof is poured solid 4K PSI concrete with fiber glass, all wall cells are also solid poured at the same time as the roof. I used a 2x12" all of the way around for a form on the sides bolted to angle iron welded to the ends of the I beams. I used plywood between the bottom webs of the I beams for a form. The roof is 10' wide x 24' long and 8' high inside for a good open feel when underground.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Well, for the price it would be a good start. Nothing says you can expand it underground at your leisuer without raising lots of eyebrow. Get it in, let the neighbor check it out and how small it is then jackha,,er new doors in the sides and dig out acrtual rooms from there and build the walls with cement block and rebar. Let your mind solve the issue but the original box and hole are alreay dug for you.
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
With respect to the OP shelter, I guess if I lived in a rambler in tornado alley I'd consider getting one, but I'd want it buried into a hill so you wouldn't have this big ugly turd sticking up in your yard.
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
I don't know much about concrete pouring, etc. When one does a concrete top like that, what sort of support has to be in place to support it while it cures? I imagine that's a lot of weight. Also, I'm guessing the outside of the walls are sealed with something before backfilling ?

$3200 installed. Not bad for something you can have in a couple of days.

I built a copy of this one for a little over $7K but it took three years and a lot of scrounging and is a true fallout shelter. I added a mini split AC unit last year and it could double as a meat locker.


Dont think for a second that you can cobble together a fallout shelter in a few days or even weeks if SHTF. Make one now while you can then spend the time needed to properly stock it.

shelter-kit-build-02-07-2000w.jpg
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I built an above-ground storm shelter when we lived in Louisiana. No cellars there. Concrete-filled rebar reinforced cinder block walls tied to a 18" thick slab and with the roof bolted down. We called it the Tardis. 8x16', big enough for all the neighbors if we had a bad blow. We moved years ago, but it's still there.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
I don't know much about concrete pouring, etc. When one does a concrete top like that, what sort of support has to be in place to support it while it cures? I imagine that's a lot of weight. Also, I'm guessing the outside of the walls are sealed with something before backfilling ?

1/2" plywood set between the I beams that run every 32". Walls coated with roofing tar. No inside supports are needed durring cure.
 
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