CORONA Study Finds 98 "Long-Term" COVID-19 Symptoms Including Baldness

Blacknarwhal

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
If true, I've had COVID-19 since my mid-twenties.

Also love how one symptom of COVID is "fatigue", another is "difficulty falling asleep" and a third is "sleeping more than normal."

Fair use cited so on and so forth.

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Study Finds 98 "Long-Term" COVID-19 Symptoms Including Baldness

by Tyler Durden
Wed, 08/05/2020 - 22:10


Epidemiologists readily admit that viruses are chock full of puzzles. And COVID-19 is no exception. Earlier today, Dr. Fauci himself lamented the fact that nearly half of those who get the virus don't see symptoms, which is one reason why young people have been so reckless, purportedly helping to spread the virus.

And in a study published recently by the University of Indiana School of Medicine happened on a surprising finding: those who suffer from long-term symptoms of the coronavirus - a group that the researchers nicknamed "long haulers" after a Facebook group where many go for help - can experience all kinds of surprising symptoms, including baldness (for both men and women).
The study was conducted by a doctor at the Indiana University School of Medicine and the grassroots COVID-19 survivor group Survivor Corps using a Facebook poll that was shared with a group of "long haulers", whom the researchers thanked for sharing their time and experience.


The CDC has identified only 17 persistent COVID-19 symptoms, but the survey of more than 1,500 patients found 98 possible symptoms, according to Dr. Natalie Lambert, an associate research professor who worked on the study.
"The new symptoms our study identified include severe nerve pain, difficulty concentrating, difficulty sleeping, blurry vision and even hair loss," Lambert said in a written statement.
While the CDC guidelines are helpful for the vast majority of COVID-19 sufferers, for those who are severely affected by the virus, a much broader world of potential symptoms opens up. Many of these symptoms aren't included on the CDC's list of common COVID-19 symptoms. And until now, the medical community hadn't really recognized these symptoms as potentially tied to SARS-CoV-2.

In the report, the authors wrote that "the mismatch between the health problems people are experiencing and the information that they can find from official health sources is noticeable and a potential cause for concern," outlining the motivation for their study.
To be sure, media reports have documented a degree of versatility in virus symptoms. Some seriously ill patients experienced damage to their hearts along with the lungs and the vascular system - these symptoms, and the puzzle they presented for epidemiologists, were widely reported.




But the team from the Indiana University School of Medicine wrote that other symptoms, including "brain, whole body, joints, eye, and skin symptoms are also frequent-occurring health problems for people recovering from COVID-19", they wrote in the study.

Another finding of the survey is that many "long haulers" who suffer from these extended symptoms report high levels of pain - 26.5% reported painful symptoms.


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Melodi

Melodi

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They are real, and they way the count them (or they should be counting them) is when they occur in people who previously didn't have them, but after having COVID 19 they do.

This is tricky because they could also have "symptoms" of something new or a condition that is just surfacing which is why it is easier to track really obvious and serious health problems like sudden lung problems, observed destruction of the heart or other organs (that were fine before, especially when there is a medical record), brain issues (again especially when there were none before etc).

There is mounting evidence that like Lyme Disease, Malaria, Untreated Syphilis or herpes simplexes that this disease hides in the body rather than really "going away."

Some people may be able to live with it just fine - 99 percent of people live just fine with "toxoplasmosis" in their bodies (no reason to get rid of your kitty cat) but it can go "LIVE" if the immune system is compromised.

We just don't know enough about the long term effects of a new disease to be sure, and there is also the potential for real misuse of the diagnoses, that is obvious.

I mean nearly every symptom described can in fact be something else, including "Fibro" (which is real, I have it but almost no one really understands it on a medical level yet - there are good working theories but it isn't "sorted" either).
 
The Mountain

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naturallysweet said:
Long haul symptoms are real. Pray you , or someone you love, don't have to find out personally.
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I don't think anyone disputes the reality of long-term symptoms as a generic term. I think the objection comes from the notion that any disease that has only been an issue for a few months can reliably be said to have definitive long-term symptoms. Not only has it not been long enough for there to be a "long-term" yet, the idea that anyone has had the time to develop studies and experiments that can prove with any certainty that the list of symptoms above are actual symptoms of the virus and not anything else, especially since some of those symptoms are so common, is risible. Many of those symptoms on the list are much more likely to be the result of some other ailment or even from stress over all the hysteria about the virus.
 
Blacknarwhal

Blacknarwhal

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The Mountain said:
I don't think anyone disputes the reality of long-term symptoms as a generic term. I think the objection comes from the notion that any disease that has only been an issue for a few months can reliably be said to have definitive long-term symptoms. Not only has it not been long enough for there to be a "long-term" yet, the idea that anyone has had the time to develop studies and experiments that can prove with any certainty that the list of symptoms above are actual symptoms of the virus and not anything else, especially since some of those symptoms are so common, is risible. Many of those symptoms on the list are much more likely to be the result of some other ailment or even from stress over all the hysteria about the virus.
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Common AND contradictory. Sleep too much? You've got COVID. Don't sleep enough? You've got COVID. With so many possible symptoms, this reeks of someone trying to gin up fear.
 
Meemur

Meemur

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Blacknarwhal said:
Common AND contradictory. Sleep too much? You've got COVID. Don't sleep enough? You've got COVID. With so many possible symptoms, this reeks of someone trying to gin up fear.
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Exactly! And before CV-19, there was Lyme Disease, and SARS, and ___

I'm not making light of any of this! They are very real and can cause some real problems, but I also know women (and a few men) who use any excuse to avoid work, and now there are communists who want to shut the country down, again before the election, so I see a lot of this as their scare tactics at work.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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Meemur said:
Exactly! And before CV-19, there was Lyme Disease, and SARS, and ___

I'm not making light of any of this! They are very real and can cause some real problems, but I also know women (and a few men) who use any excuse to avoid work, and now there are communists who want to shut the country down, again before the election, so I see a lot of this as their scare tactics at work.
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Yes! We all can see how the left is weaponizing a very real issue for their gain, and it's infuriating. It's why many of us take just about every headline we see nowadays with a few plentiful heaps of salt...
 
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My 18 yr old daughter was “cleared” of Covid After a 55 day infection cycle, and 2 weeks or so later started having all kinds of fun new issues. It’s a chicken or the egg question really. ALL of them are neurological and we already have 3 major new diagnosis, at least 1 of which for sure was never an issue pre-Covid, Tourette’s. That being said the brain is tricky and who knows for sure what causes what.

I also think that a major infection or illness of any kind can bring out or trigger other underlying scenarios. This is why when people get something big it seems like the issues keep on rolling for a while. For example I have someone close to me that had breast cancer but ended up having their appendix removed all of the sudden. Hard to know if it would have happened anyway, but you can summarize that the chemo and such stressed the system and pushed things along faster.

I think I will wait a bit to check off the list presented here as a to do list. I just find it interesting how we are so desperate to understand Covid and have some magic answer that the general population will accept anything that sounds like an answer.
 
naturallysweet

naturallysweet

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We don't know long term, that's the problem. We do know that formerly very healthy and athletic people who were sick in January in European, are now very unhealthy. January to August is a decent amount is time to let us know the there is a problem!
We don't see this magnitude of after effects in our normal lives with normal viruses. We need to pay attention. What's going to happen to our economy if 10% of people have to go on permanent disability? It's a real possibility with this monster.
 
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raven

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one might consider that
In light of the "Pandemic"
AND
the "exception funding" provided for confirmed corona cases
THAT
the your physician's default diagnosis could possibly be corona
When you actually have something else
which could be either better or worse
 
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ShadowMan

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
So basically if you catch this stuff you're totally "Screwed blue and tatooed FOR LIFE!!" Great....just friggen great!!

"They" really really really want us to line up to take any vaccine they manage to come up with - WITHOUT any real safety protocols or guarantees and the manufactures are totally immune from being held accountable for anything that goes wrong and any litigation. Hmmmmm do you smell fish? I defiantly smell fish....really really rotten fish.
 
Practical

Practical

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Circular reasoning fallacy. They suspect that a result of having the rona is sleepiness, therefore if you get sleepy, it's from the rona. The premise can be logically valid, but it does not make the conclusion valid.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
if being bald is a symptom I will NEVER get this shite - at 70 I've gotta be bushogged every three weeks . . . "feeling irritable" however - now that's another thing completely. since the SCAM-demic began I've pretty well S T A Y E D pissed off . . .
 
auxman

auxman

Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...
I was born with hypothyroidism... and I just find out it's been CORONA my whole life? Damn.
 
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naturallysweet

naturallysweet

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It's not actually going bald, it's hair loss. Similar to what happened to people in keto who lose a lot of weight too fast. The trauma to the body causes clumps of hair to fall out. But it does grow back.
Knock-on-wood, has not happened to me thankfully. I have enough issues with my super fine Medusa hair. But I have read the stories and seen the before and after photos.
 
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Double_A

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Meemur said:
Exactly! And before CV-19, there was Lyme Disease, and SARS, and ___

I'm not making light of any of this! They are very real and can cause some real problems, but I also know women (and a few men) who use any excuse to avoid work, and now there are communists who want to shut the country down, again before the election, so I see a lot of this as their scare tactics at work.
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I know guy who suffered from Lyme disease. He was a young man, athletic, professional Fisherman, and later where the trouble happened, a Logger in the local Mountains. Numerous tick bites in the forest. Suffered for years until they tested him, after years of request to do so. The treatment was a sham and worse than the disease. There was a National story a few years back that said the incidence of Lyme disease is ten time higher than thought, because the symptom mimic so many other medical conditions.

He wasted away, but he continued to write software from his home. He would roll his super duper hi-tech wheel chair a block and half down to the waters edge and stare at the Bay where he used to Fish and Surf. What a waste.
 
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Double_A

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Practical said:
Circular reasoning fallacy. They suspect that a result of having the rona is sleepiness, therefore if you get sleepy, it's from the rona. The premise can be logically valid, but it does not make the conclusion valid.
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Perhaps it would have been better to say "Sleep Disruption"?
 
To-late

To-late

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So did none of these thing exist before this covid19 bull sh-t stuff?
And they figured this out in less than five(5) months?
I've been loosing my hair for yrs. as I've gotten older many of the things listed above have affected me.
Over the course of my life, I've experienced almost everything listed. At some point. Way before covid19.
 
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Double_A

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Practical said:
Maybe, still would not make the conclusion valid. It would assume that sleep disruption could not be caused by anything else.
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You can say that about damm near anything. Most medical conditions have a constellation of symptoms that are common with other medical conditions. That's just how things happen in this imperfect world, it's the reason why a friend of mine died a few years back from Lyme disease. His symptoms were so common to so many other medical conditions.
 
Practical

Practical

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Double_A said:
You can say that about damm near anything. Most medical conditions have a constellation of symptoms that are common with other medical conditions. That's just how things happen in this imperfect world, it's the reason why a friend of mine died a few years back from Lyme disease. His symptoms were so common to so many other medical conditions.
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And that is exactly the point, they can be applied to a variety of conditions, but wrapping them all in a Covid 'symptom' chart does not somehow make them exclusive to Covid which seems to be the intent of the OP. If a person wants to believe their thinning hair is a result of Covid, go for it, doesn't hurt me a bit. Locking me down because his hair is thinning, very different discussion.
 
greysage

greysage

On The Level
Interesting. I think I had Covid after Thanksgiving last year, well into December.

Now I've got a bald spot beginning on the top back of my head. Noticed a couple weeks ago.

Early 50's, thick head of healthy hair all my life. Maybe it's my time now? Maybe it's stress from the last 6+ months? Maybe I had Covid for real?
 
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Double_A

TB Fanatic
Practical said:
And that is exactly the point, they can be applied to a variety of conditions, but wrapping them all in a Covid 'symptom' chart does not somehow make them exclusive to Covid which seems to be the intent of the OP. If a person wants to believe their thinning hair is a result of Covid, go for it, doesn't hurt me a bit. Locking me down because his hair is thinning, very different discussion.
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exclusive to Covid which seems to be the intent of the OP.

I didn't get that impression myself.

I'll say one thing I've learned, having a GOOD Auto Mechanic AND a GOOD doctor will make your life a whole lot better...and a whole lot worst if either of them isn't very good.
 
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