WTF?!? Some of you are panicking. You need to get yourselves under control

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
You know I always thought most here were stable minded people around. The last few months has shown me otherwise. It reminds me of the stampede when the fire alarm sounds everyone is stable till it goes off. It has gotten to the point were one panics and 10 follow and then we have the last of us just looking around the room to see who is left standing.

You all need to breathe. You have spent years preparing and should be sitting good for awhile gardening season will be coming up more preps there coming. It is what it is and your panic nor worrying is going to change anything. Live your life....

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...Picking out my targets...
 

privatemom

Veteran Member
Dennis,
Based on the "bias" and diversity training I just had to sit through, your argument for starting this thread does not hold. No matter what we say (or don't), we are guilty out of the chute. We're screwed no matter what. It's only a matter of time.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Dennis, Thank you for the good shoulder shake. I hope it works come Weds night. My hopium pill is wearing off. Nothing in the cabinet. On Thurs reality red pill kicks into full force. Goodbye my friends and countrymen, hello fellow comrades. Yep. This is going to suck!

The best way to never go through hopium withdrawal is to never have hope to begin with...

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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
The reason I started this thread is because some folks have started saying things that in today’s new Communist Utopia, could easily get them dragged off to the gulags. And if not that, certainly “canceled” and unable to get a job ever again.

Posting, "Hi!" on this forum will soon have the same effect.

It won't be so much what you say but the setting you say it in...
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Dennis,
Based on the "bias" and diversity training I just had to sit through, your argument for starting this thread does not hold. No matter what we say (or don't), we are guilty out of the chute. We're screwed no matter what. It's only a matter of time.
I don’t care about your bias and diversity training. I’ve seen certain post content that can easily get people dragged before the Bolshevik “courts.” Some of those statements can also be used to try and “cancel” this forum. I choose to let folks know what I’m seeing. Whether or not you approve is immaterial to me.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
I don’t care about your bias and diversity training. I’ve seen certain post content that can easily get people dragged before the Bolshevik “courts.” Some of those statements can also be used to try and “cancel” this forum. I choose to let folks know what I’m seeing. Whether or not you approve is immaterial to me.
Ya know...another way to cut stress it to start our OWN courts and start to cancel out those who would do so unto us.

Further stress reduction can come from playing Santa Clause . Ya know , make a list, check it twice, gunna find out who is naughty and nice....it is quite cathartic .:spns:
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Ya know...another way to cut stress it to start our OWN courts and start to cancel out those who would do so unto us.
While an interesting philosophical thought, how would one do that? The courts are created under color of the “law.” Some random Schmoe can’t just start up an ad hoc court. Would he then start up an ad hoc police dept? An ad hoc prison system?

Seems like more hopium to me.
 

Giskard

Only human
Just chill. Millions all over the world live in Banana Republics. Can't be that bad.
 
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33dInd

Veteran Member
Ahh hell
Clean and gas the chain saw

go into the woods
Cut some firewood
I got plenty to do on the 50 acres what with that October ice storm
It’s uplifting
Mindlessness required
 
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Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
While an interesting philosophical thought, how would one do that? The courts are created under color of the “law.” Some random Schmoe can’t just start up an ad hoc court. Would he then start up an ad hoc police dept? An ad hoc prison system?

Seems like more hopium to me.
Well as you mention it is under the color of Law. We do not have that now in the country, as you can see.

So a good guide might be the ultimate in Law, the Constitution.

I dont know if you would call those part of a "Police Force" but sure , more like a civilian led "possy" of sorts.

Not sure prisons would be needed per se.
 

Murt

Veteran Member
Dennis,
Based on the "bias" and diversity training I just had to sit through, your argument for starting this thread does not hold. No matter what we say (or don't), we are guilty out of the chute. We're screwed no matter what. It's only a matter of time.

JMO YMMV
I am not guilty because some jerk says that I am--I answer to the Lord not him
Their words are no more than noise and I will deal with the physical issues as they arise in the manner which I see fit
What are you doing to prepare for the screwing --no need to answer for opsec purposes --it was more of a rhetorical question
 

abby normal

insert appropriate adjective here
Just got back and this was the first new post that popped up. Not sure what I missed but it looks like I have some reading to do.

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privatemom

Veteran Member
I don’t care about your bias and diversity training. I’ve seen certain post content that can easily get people dragged before the Bolshevik “courts.” Some of those statements can also be used to try and “cancel” this forum. I choose to let folks know what I’m seeing. Whether or not you approve is immaterial to me.

Sometimes you take things way out of proportion. And you say that others are getting high stung?

I respect you a whole bunch Dennis and I truly DO understand your need to protect what is said here. Just don't shoot the messenger.
 

llknp

Senior Member
Everything that has been is just that. I see a lot of political posturing by the Dims. We are gonna do this, this and that. Wait for it. See what really happens. Anyone remember "Obama phones"? What they say and what they do are usually two different things. Take care of yourselves and your families. We lived through eight years of Obama. The infighting among the Dims will be amazing! Let's see what this little shit show brings us.:popcorn1:
 

155 arty

Veteran Member
Once again been seeing signs of emotional instability in some of you. CM’s freakout about “them” blocking radio signals, coalcracker’s freakout over the amber alert, the collective latching on to the “hopium” threads like a drowning man to a life ring. (Just using these as an example; no denigration intended.)

Some of you appear to be losing your last grasp on mental stability. I’m seeing the electronic equivalent of people spinning in circles, gibbering and clutching at their hair. You people need to calm the hell down. You’re going to drive yourselves over the edge into the nutcase-zone.

I understand that you’re panicked and in a mental frenzy. Only you can get that under control. I’m seeing the conservative version of sky screaming.

Knock it off. Step away from the computer for the next few days. Turn off the TV. Go out and do something constructive. Seriously. Some of you are close to derangement.
Yes and yes but too ****ing late now they can sit and wait
 

lostinaz

Senior Member
Use this as a kick in the pant to get your situation in order. Get your emergency preps that you need now. If you live in an apartment in the city or you live in a, let's say "unstable" state, you may want to get your plan of action to move. These are things you should know by now if you are here, but if you don't, here it is. Do It. Now. Put your nervousness into positive action. Get your family out of bad places.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Well as you mention it is under the color of Law. We do not have that now in the country, as you can see.

So a good guide might be the ultimate in Law, the Constitution.

I dont know if you would call those part of a "Police Force" but sure , more like a civilian led "possy" of sorts.

Not sure prisons would be needed per se.
The problem with that is one-half the population “feelz” there’s the rule of law. They also “feelz” that the constitution is being “protected” from we Nazi scum. Further, that since Nazi scum are evil, they should not be protected under the RoL, but rather killed to the last man, woman and child. One cannot establish a “parallel” RoL as long as the “original and traditional” one exists. It’s like deciding the FRN isn’t valid currency, and printing your own. You’ll find out damn quick that to “them,” you’re in the wrong. Further, you’ll go to “their” prison for it.

Thus, regardless of how attractive it might seem, one can’t do what you posit. Naturally, you understand that the attempt is the trigger point for civil war. Whether or not one thinks such a war “good,” it will lead to the dissolution of the United States. What would remain would be a Postman-like dystopian hell of a country, ruled by petty warlords. You really want to swear allegiance to the “Rule of 8”?
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
The problem with that is one-half the population “feelz” there’s the rule of law. They also “feelz” that the constitution is being “protected” from we Nazi scum. Further, that since Nazi scum are evil, they should not be protected under the RoL, but rather killed to the last man, woman and child. One cannot establish a “parallel” RoL as long as the “original and traditional” one exists. It’s like deciding the FRN isn’t valid currency, and printing your own. You’ll find out damn quick that to “them,” you’re in the wrong. Further, you’ll go to “their” prison for it.

Thus, regardless of how attractive it might seem, one can’t do what you posit. Naturally, you understand that the attempt is the trigger point for civil war. Whether or not one thinks such a war “good,” it will lead to the dissolution of the United States. What would remain would be a Postman-like dystopian hell of a country, ruled by petty warlords. You really want to swear allegiance to the “Rule of 8”?
Cant make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

When pondering such hypothetical situations I often go back to the founders and how they would do things at this time.

Hypothetically it is always the same as they once did when a nation has become "Destructive to these ends".

Besides, feelings don't count when dealing with communists.

Hypothetically of course.

( BTW just as a point of clarification, we CANNOT be Right Wing National Socialists...just does not work)
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The problem with that is one-half the population “feelz” there’s the rule of law. They also “feelz” that the constitution is being “protected” from we Nazi scum. Further, that since Nazi scum are evil, they should not be protected under the RoL, but rather killed to the last man, woman and child. One cannot establish a “parallel” RoL as long as the “original and traditional” one exists. It’s like deciding the FRN isn’t valid currency, and printing your own. You’ll find out damn quick that to “them,” you’re in the wrong. Further, you’ll go to “their” prison for it.

Thus, regardless of how attractive it might seem, one can’t do what you posit. Naturally, you understand that the attempt is the trigger point for civil war. Whether or not one thinks such a war “good,” it will lead to the dissolution of the United States. What would remain would be a Postman-like dystopian hell of a country, ruled by petty warlords. You really want to swear allegiance to the “Rule of 8”?

Wait a minute. I'm now Nazi scum? I thought I was merely a domestic terrorist.

Bummer.

:)
 

TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
Just a Reminder. We've all seen it before but it cannot be denied that this is what we are dealing with.

Now that Hopium is pretty much gone except for the die hards, Many are settling into Step 2.

1. Denial & Isolation
The first reaction to learning about the terminal illness, loss, or death of a cherished loved one is to deny the reality of the situation. “This isn’t happening, this can’t be happening,” people often think. It is a normal reaction to rationalize our overwhelming emotions.

Denial is a common defense mechanism that buffers the immediate shock of the loss, numbing us to our emotions. We block out the words and hide from the facts. We start to believe that life is meaningless, and nothing is of any value any longer. For most people experiencing grief, this stage is a temporary response that carries us through the first wave of pain.

2. Anger
As the masking effects of denial and isolation begin to wear, reality and its pain re-emerge. We are not ready. The intense emotion is deflected from our vulnerable core, redirected and expressed instead as anger. The anger may be aimed at inanimate objects, complete strangers, friends or family.

Anger may be directed at our dying or deceased loved one. Rationally, we know the person is not to be blamed. Emotionally, however, we may resent the person for causing us pain or for leaving us. We feel guilty for being angry, and this makes us more angry.

Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it.

The doctor who diagnosed the illness and was unable to cure the disease might become a convenient target. Health professionals deal with death and dying every day. That does not make them immune to the suffering of their patients or to those who grieve for them.

Do not hesitate to ask your doctor to give you extra time or to explain just once more the details of your loved one’s illness. Arrange a special appointment or ask that he telephone you at the end of his day. Ask for clear answers to your questions regarding medical diagnosis and treatment. Understand the options available to you. Take your time.

3. Bargaining
The normal reaction to feelings of helplessness and vulnerability is often a need to regain control through a series of “If only” statements, such as:

If only we had sought medical attention sooner…
If only we got a second opinion from another doctor…
If only we had tried to be a better person toward them…
This is an attempt to bargain. Secretly, we may make a deal with God or our higher power in an attempt to postpone the inevitable, and the accompanying pain. This is a weaker line of defense to protect us from the painful reality.

Guilt often accompanies bargaining. We start to believe there was something we could have done differently to have helped save our loved one.

4. Depression
There are two types of depression that are associated with mourning. The first one is a reaction to practical implications relating to the loss. Sadness and regret predominate this type of depression. We worry about the costs and burial. We worry that, in our grief, we have spent less time with others that depend on us. This phase may be eased by simple clarification and reassurance. We may need a bit of helpful cooperation and a few kind words.

The second type of depression is more subtle and, in a sense, perhaps more private. It is our quiet preparation to separate and to bid our loved one farewell. Sometimes all we really need is a hug.

Learn About: Depression Symptoms

5. Acceptance
Reaching this stage of grieving is a gift not afforded to everyone. Death may be sudden and unexpected or we may never see beyond our anger or denial. It is not necessarily a mark of bravery to resist the inevitable and to deny ourselves the opportunity to make our peace. This phase is marked by withdrawal and calm. This is not a period of happiness and must be distinguished from depression.

Loved ones that are terminally ill or aging appear to go through a final period of withdrawal. This is by no means a suggestion that they are aware of their own impending death or such, only that physical decline may be sufficient to produce a similar response. Their behavior implies that it is natural to reach a stage at which social interaction is limited. The dignity and grace shown by our dying loved ones may well be their last gift to us.

Coping with loss is ultimately a deeply personal and singular experience — nobody can help you go through it more easily or understand all the emotions that you’re going through. But others can be there for you and help comfort you through this process. The best thing you can do is to allow yourself to feel the grief as it comes over you. Resisting it only will prolong the natural process of healing.

 

Beach

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
The problem with that is one-half the population “feelz” there’s the rule of law. They also “feelz” that the constitution is being “protected” from we Nazi scum. Further, that since Nazi scum are evil, they should not be protected under the RoL, but rather killed to the last man, woman and child. One cannot establish a “parallel” RoL as long as the “original and traditional” one exists. It’s like deciding the FRN isn’t valid currency, and printing your own. You’ll find out damn quick that to “them,” you’re in the wrong. Further, you’ll go to “their” prison for it.

Thus, regardless of how attractive it might seem, one can’t do what you posit. Naturally, you understand that the attempt is the trigger point for civil war. Whether or not one thinks such a war “good,” it will lead to the dissolution of the United States. What would remain would be a Postman-like dystopian hell of a country, ruled by petty warlords. You really want to swear allegiance to the “Rule of 8”?

Wait a minute. I'm now Nazi scum? I thought I was merely a domestic terrorist.

Bummer.

:)

Geez, how we need for civics and history to be taught again in our schools. These young people really don't get it.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap

I will take 6 of each please. Wait, I need some for later, too. And an insulin shot - the only jab I will take! LOL

I have been, at times, filled with a sense of dread, especially this a.m. I still have FAITH, but this is all very hard to be immersed in, these times, with the accelerated evil schemes of the deep state. The propaganda and the lies have been off the charts, and it is enough to make a person very ornery...we are only human.

God made us with emotions, but, emotions have to be reined in, so you don't burst a vessel, raise you BP, or have too much stress hormone going though you body.

Continuing to pray against the evil agenda of the deep state- let them have what the are trying to put on us.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
I'm taking the same track that I took when faced with zero hour at the tip of the Marine spear headed into Kuwait. It was cold and over cast from the oil field fires as our assault battalion headed towards a wall of black smoke that stretched as far to the right and left that we could see across the flat sandy plain and straight up into the smoky gray ceiling.

Like ants heading to picnic, every hundred or so yards to either side of me were lines of mechanized Marines streaming towards a single point up ahead in the distance between twin spiraling pillars of smoke. One of the other Corpsman in my Hummer pointed to those twin smoky pillars standing in front of a black and gray wall with flashes of death waiting for us.

"What is that?" He asked. My response......"That's the gates of Hell." At that moment I asked The Lord to protect my family and if it was my time, to forgive my failures and sins and to let me die well.....and take as many of those evil bastards with me as I could.

True story.

Folks, it is what it is. We're not in control or in charge. It's in HIS Hands. Accept that and do your best to make the bastards pay. To borrow from a recent SciFi show:
"THIS - IS - THE - WAY!"
iu
 
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