CORONA So...now that ALL of us are "vaxxed"--what can be done?
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bw
Fringe Ranger
They knew the jab is not good for you, but not that the mRNA is transmissible.
naegling62
Veteran Member
They knew from the beginning. Don't y'all remember all the warnings in the original trials when they didn't want the recipients to be around pregnant women?
Theophilus
Theophilus
Shedding is for real. DW and I stayed away from crowds [generally]. But in late summer 2021, a nurse dropped by to see our house, she was building almost the same layout and wanted to see how ours was finished. Fine. Come on in. She was bombastic, loud, cough, sneezed and then explained she had just received her umpteenth booster.
I suspected the worst....and sure enough in three days, DW and I had a brimming hot case of Covid. Fortunately, in that short period of time, Florida was giving the Monoclonal (sp) treatments which we received. After about18 days we were back to normal, more or less.
Shedding for sure.
I suspected the worst....and sure enough in three days, DW and I had a brimming hot case of Covid. Fortunately, in that short period of time, Florida was giving the Monoclonal (sp) treatments which we received. After about18 days we were back to normal, more or less.
Shedding for sure.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Actually I don’t; there’s been so much information in the last three years I lost track. But I believe you!
naegling62
Veteran Member
I could be wrong but I think it came into the discussion early on when the opposition were proposing that vaccine shedding was possible. It was brushed off by most but it was in the protocol.
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
HA !!
What else yuh wunna do, bake ‘em a pie ?
No
Given the magnitude of the crime and the vast number of participants, this is PRECISELY why God invented machine guns.
The sword is just too slow for this sort of undertaking.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
Consider the spiritual truths:
“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.” - Jesus Christ
Spoiler alert: Evil does not win.
“No weapon that is formed against you will succeed; And you will condemn every tongue that accuses you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.
For now, let’s pray against it.
“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.” - Jesus Christ
Spoiler alert: Evil does not win.
“No weapon that is formed against you will succeed; And you will condemn every tongue that accuses you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.
For now, let’s pray against it.
Kewpie
Senior Member
Before the panic sets in, you need to read the study itself, not someone’s interpretation of it.
A. This has not been peer reviewed. You’d be surprised how many studies fall apart in that process.
B. The study states “The vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 have maintained remarkable efficacy against severe disease and death in those vaccinated regardless of variant emergence, Omicron included”, so if you’re relying on the study as accurate, also take that into account. The #1 contributor to cardiovascular issues, whether it’s a Covid infection, vaccine, has always been comorbidities. If you’re *THAT* concerned, go see a cardiologist! Get your calcium score! Get a sonogram on your veins to check blood flow! You can be proactive.
C. The mechanism of testing was to test masks worn by the vaccinated and control groups, and then nasal swab children to test their antibodies. The observation was that children within the vaccinated household held “readily detectable SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG (Fig 1E), especially when compared to the complete deficit of SARS-CoV-2-specific antibody detected in the few nasal swabs we obtained from children in non-vaccinated households.” There’s a lot of wiggle room in that wording, and I didn’t see how verification for how they controlled the parameters for what the children were exposed to outside the home. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to dig into the specifics of how they conducted the study, but maybe I can later this evening or tomorrow.
D. Within the study itself, the authors state this is a hypothesis only. They also did not titer the children, so while they may have found antibodies within the nose, it doesn’t appear they tested to see if the antibodies made it into their bloodstream. Their words “Our results suggest that aerosol transmission of antibodies may also contribute to host protection and represent an entirely unrecognized mechanism by which passive immune protection may be communicated. Whether antibody transfer mediates host protection will be a function of exposure, but it seems reasonable to suggest, all things being equal, that any amount of antibody transfer would prove useful to the recipient host”. <—So take a breath! Shingles also sheds chicken pox virus, but it doesn’t mean it everyone you come in contact with gets it. This is currently in a hypothesis state, and sounds like they need a larger study and further testing to actually *CONFIRM* this hypothesis.
Honestly, your best bet would be to check titers with your doctor. Even if you were exposed to someone within the 48 hour period (I only saw that number within a news article though, I didn’t see it stated on the study itself), it doesn’t mean you were exposed to, or inhaled IgG or IgA. So BREATHE. This isn’t a cause for you to panic just yet.
A. This has not been peer reviewed. You’d be surprised how many studies fall apart in that process.
B. The study states “The vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 have maintained remarkable efficacy against severe disease and death in those vaccinated regardless of variant emergence, Omicron included”, so if you’re relying on the study as accurate, also take that into account. The #1 contributor to cardiovascular issues, whether it’s a Covid infection, vaccine, has always been comorbidities. If you’re *THAT* concerned, go see a cardiologist! Get your calcium score! Get a sonogram on your veins to check blood flow! You can be proactive.
C. The mechanism of testing was to test masks worn by the vaccinated and control groups, and then nasal swab children to test their antibodies. The observation was that children within the vaccinated household held “readily detectable SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG (Fig 1E), especially when compared to the complete deficit of SARS-CoV-2-specific antibody detected in the few nasal swabs we obtained from children in non-vaccinated households.” There’s a lot of wiggle room in that wording, and I didn’t see how verification for how they controlled the parameters for what the children were exposed to outside the home. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to dig into the specifics of how they conducted the study, but maybe I can later this evening or tomorrow.
D. Within the study itself, the authors state this is a hypothesis only. They also did not titer the children, so while they may have found antibodies within the nose, it doesn’t appear they tested to see if the antibodies made it into their bloodstream. Their words “Our results suggest that aerosol transmission of antibodies may also contribute to host protection and represent an entirely unrecognized mechanism by which passive immune protection may be communicated. Whether antibody transfer mediates host protection will be a function of exposure, but it seems reasonable to suggest, all things being equal, that any amount of antibody transfer would prove useful to the recipient host”. <—So take a breath! Shingles also sheds chicken pox virus, but it doesn’t mean it everyone you come in contact with gets it. This is currently in a hypothesis state, and sounds like they need a larger study and further testing to actually *CONFIRM* this hypothesis.
Honestly, your best bet would be to check titers with your doctor. Even if you were exposed to someone within the 48 hour period (I only saw that number within a news article though, I didn’t see it stated on the study itself), it doesn’t mean you were exposed to, or inhaled IgG or IgA. So BREATHE. This isn’t a cause for you to panic just yet.
The Cub
Behold, I am coming soon.
Only one thing is fully effective:
https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/ind...depopulation-and-control.620706/#post-9195418
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Peer Review is almost meaningless IMHO, it always seems to be nothing more than "group think" and anything controversial, that rocks the boat, gets tossed out. This is where "The Science Is Settled" comes from, science is never settled and it never will be nor should it. Relying on Peer Review only really limits new discovery.
Just my opinion, YMMV.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I seem to understand from reading the article that they were surprised to find evidence of the shedding ON THE MASKS they made everyone wear...as well as in the bloodstreams of unvaxed people.
So it seems the masks served at least ONE useful purpose.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
the warnings about pregnant women are mentioned several times in the link posted in Post 1--in this original article that talks about the 'discovery' by Pfizer that unvaxxed are picking up "shedded" materials from vaxed
oh bullshit. you are absolutely clueless as the what this "virus" even is. gawd I hate stupid people who blather on mindless bullshit. wake the f up. get over yourself ffs
Kewpie
Senior Member
Well, it does in fact benefit to have other people review your methodology and to recreate the study to recreate results. I think doing something once on a small scale and declaring it irrefutable fact, just because it confirms a bias…is a bit silly and misguided. But I also prefer to read studies in depth and form my own conclusions.
I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but research is one of my favorite ways of relaxing.
BUT, I suppose it’s more productive to panic and assume everyone is a mudblood and the whole human race is now going to die out, not just those darned ol mutated vaxxed folks, like everyone was hoping.
SHOOT.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Peer review in today's 'woke' / politically correct environment is meaningless.
They approved this vaccine with 'peer-reviewed' studies---but NO longitudinal studies (the standard for decades in the medical research field for new medicines / vaccines).
They IGNORED well-researched scientific evidence presented by researchers (all documented on the COVID thread) of the harm the vax was doing to human blood cells, the circulatory system, and the immune system.
I classify modern 'peer-reviewed' with the 'scientists' of Galileo's time who forced him to recant his support for Copernicus' heliocentric theory (and the evidence for it which Galileo had himself seen through his telescope) in order to hold on to their Aristotelian theory of a geo-centric solar system, due to a mistaken interpretation of the Bible.
So most modern "scientists"--who START NOT from a 'let's look at the evidence and THEN form our opinion/ belief based on that" viewpoint, but rather from their personal BELIEF (faith, if you will) system that "We KNOW this is true; let's find the evidence that backs it up." They absolutely reject and don't even consider any evidence that doesn't square with what they already BELIEVE.
They approved this vaccine with 'peer-reviewed' studies---but NO longitudinal studies (the standard for decades in the medical research field for new medicines / vaccines).
They IGNORED well-researched scientific evidence presented by researchers (all documented on the COVID thread) of the harm the vax was doing to human blood cells, the circulatory system, and the immune system.
I classify modern 'peer-reviewed' with the 'scientists' of Galileo's time who forced him to recant his support for Copernicus' heliocentric theory (and the evidence for it which Galileo had himself seen through his telescope) in order to hold on to their Aristotelian theory of a geo-centric solar system, due to a mistaken interpretation of the Bible.
So most modern "scientists"--who START NOT from a 'let's look at the evidence and THEN form our opinion/ belief based on that" viewpoint, but rather from their personal BELIEF (faith, if you will) system that "We KNOW this is true; let's find the evidence that backs it up." They absolutely reject and don't even consider any evidence that doesn't square with what they already BELIEVE.
desertvet2
Veteran Member
Knowingly
A study out of India got good results from coupling NAC with bromelein. The combo seems to unwind the spike proteins thereby inhibiting their generation.
I had covid in 19 with recurring issues. Much better since starting this protocol even using non therapeutic ie over the counter NAC and bromelein not IV.
I had covid in 19 with recurring issues. Much better since starting this protocol even using non therapeutic ie over the counter NAC and bromelein not IV.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
No, trials take to long and they own the courts, time for rightous hanging of all involved by the survivors. THIS IS WAR!
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
Got news for you, they've put ito everything but these first:
Subject: Discovery of self assembly of micro chip like structures found in Dental Anesthetics.
Darkfield Microscopy Of Dental Anesthetics
by Ana Maria Mihalcea, MD, PhD
Dr. Jim Lundstrom, Integrity Liaison for the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, which represents 1520 Dentists and combined over 1 Million patients, sent me dental anesthetics to evaluate. He kindly allowed for me to post the findings. I will do much more investigation, since I received a lot of vials, but here are my preliminary observations.
The rest of this story:
Link Darkfield Microscopy Of Dental Anesthetics
Also in insulin
to include rabies, tetnus and most veterinary vaccines as well as flu shots.
Subject: Discovery of self assembly of micro chip like structures found in Dental Anesthetics.
Darkfield Microscopy Of Dental Anesthetics
by Ana Maria Mihalcea, MD, PhD
Dr. Jim Lundstrom, Integrity Liaison for the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, which represents 1520 Dentists and combined over 1 Million patients, sent me dental anesthetics to evaluate. He kindly allowed for me to post the findings. I will do much more investigation, since I received a lot of vials, but here are my preliminary observations.
The rest of this story:
Link Darkfield Microscopy Of Dental Anesthetics
Also in insulin
to include rabies, tetnus and most veterinary vaccines as well as flu shots.
Chaga mushrooms.
Firebird
Has No Life - Lives on TB
By brother in law received 5 units of blood during a hip replacement, we are very concerned for him
et2
TB Fanatic
So since it was brought up in a post here, some suggest that this might have been the acceptance of the mark. Is that correct? How can that be? It doesn’t follow the what the Bible teaches. Having to do with buying or selling.
Not wanting to turn this into a religious thread. But the jab doesn’t fit the criteria … or does it? And based on the discussion of shedding … it surely doesn’t fit it. One has to knowingly understand what they’re accepting? Right?
Not wanting to turn this into a religious thread. But the jab doesn’t fit the criteria … or does it? And based on the discussion of shedding … it surely doesn’t fit it. One has to knowingly understand what they’re accepting? Right?
Profit of Doom
Dismember
It’s quieter. Except for the gurgling.
The thing is, the unvaccinated are not producing the spike proteins, we are just exposed to them. They dont "vax" us in the way those that took the vax are "vaxxed". Their bodies are constantly producing spike proteins, indefinitely, while our bodies only deal with the spike proteins when exposed, and our bodies eliminate them. This means we do not suffer the same types and levels of damage from the protein.
This is the new normal for us unvaccinated, at least for another year or two until most of the vax die off.
As for what we (unvaccinated) can do? I follow the FLCC protocols for exposure. NAC, Nattikionase, Chaga mushroom, vitamin D, diet, and exercise are my go tos.
This is the new normal for us unvaccinated, at least for another year or two until most of the vax die off.
As for what we (unvaccinated) can do? I follow the FLCC protocols for exposure. NAC, Nattikionase, Chaga mushroom, vitamin D, diet, and exercise are my go tos.
bw
Fringe Ranger
The OP turns on exactly that question. There is no evidence the RNA sheds, there is only evidence the spike sheds. The OP is asking whether we should even TEST TO SEE if the RNA sheds, it doesn't assert that it does.
A lot of people here seem to think all shedding is the same.
Yep that was it. My memory isn't so great. thanks
Chaga tea.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
For now, the best thing people can do is just the everyday things that help them stay healthy. Most of Cliff's stuff isn't harmful (well, no mushrooms for me, I'm allergic), but other than personal issues, it doesn't hurt most people to take some Vitamin C or D.
Like many people here already do, limit processed foods as you can and cook from scratch as much as possible. Light to moderate exercise like walking or gardening for those able to do so, eat organic or homegrown/local farmer fruit and veg (when you can). You know, that kind of stuff.
Then treat things as they come along, using a combination of herbs and pharmaceuticals as the situation warrants. One thing that was suspicious from almost the start of the COVID narrative was the lack of the usual treatments usually given when people have congested lungs or trouble breathing. People were told to go home and visit the hospital if they got sick enough. That happened a lot in the US.
How serious this may be for non-vaccinated people remains to be seen. If it only creates antibodies it might not be so bad, but if it also messes up the RNA/DNA in the body, then it is a larger problem. The summary articles I have read so far is the response is weaker in people exposed to being around someone who has been injected, but this is early days. It should also be compared in a blind study to people who have antibodies living with family members who came down with COVID but were never vaxxed.
Like many people here already do, limit processed foods as you can and cook from scratch as much as possible. Light to moderate exercise like walking or gardening for those able to do so, eat organic or homegrown/local farmer fruit and veg (when you can). You know, that kind of stuff.
Then treat things as they come along, using a combination of herbs and pharmaceuticals as the situation warrants. One thing that was suspicious from almost the start of the COVID narrative was the lack of the usual treatments usually given when people have congested lungs or trouble breathing. People were told to go home and visit the hospital if they got sick enough. That happened a lot in the US.
How serious this may be for non-vaccinated people remains to be seen. If it only creates antibodies it might not be so bad, but if it also messes up the RNA/DNA in the body, then it is a larger problem. The summary articles I have read so far is the response is weaker in people exposed to being around someone who has been injected, but this is early days. It should also be compared in a blind study to people who have antibodies living with family members who came down with COVID but were never vaxxed.
naegling62
Veteran Member
Pay attention to people dying in their sleep. I don't know the statistics pre vax but I've had 2 family members almost die from cardiovascular events after midnight. One was woken up and the other would have normally been asleep. Both incidents would have led to death and both were vaccinated. We are hearing and reading the same in other folks.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I didn't either, Dennis. I thought it was just woo crazy talk. But I have seen so much crazy lately that I will not discount anything outright. I already suspect that our air, water and food has already been contaminated.
I'm there with you BE. Probably nothing I can do about it and if it's God's will that I am taken out by this particular plague, I'm going to try my best to come back, hunt down those responsible and haunt them so badly their reward will be hell on earth.
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sleepyeddie
Senior Member
I`m of the opinion that you or any body else who is a skeptic and wrong about anything, owe no one an apology.
We are all human, and will continue to be wrong about a myriad of things for the rest of our lives.
Skeptics in society are absolutely necessary to hold accountable the viewpoints that are delivered as truth and fact.
Skeptics bring new ideas and concepts that not everyone is able to derive on their own.
From what I can tell; this board is about a group of mostly like minded people who are skeptical about most everything government delivers to us.
Please continue to be skeptical about anything and everything.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
This ONE answer--then go to the REL sig where I believe there's a whole thread discussing this.
no. definitely is not that. Remember that THE mark includes either worship of some man or system or a personal statement of allegiance to same. I'm thinking it will be something like a loyalty oath--and I CAN see the present ones in power demanding that. Let some MAJOR disaster hit--something that rapidly decimates a LOT of the earth's population--and this will be introduced as a means not only of "identifying who's left" but also "identifying /separating good, loyal citizens of the world from TERRORISTS"--and of course you all know who the Left already thinks are "terrorists".
BUT--I certainly believe this is laying the GROUNDWORK for it.
See REL sig.