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‘Significant traffic impact’: Part of Interstate 10 in Los Angeles shut down after large pallet fire, authorities say​

By Andy Rose, Matt Phillips, Ashley R. Williams and Melissa Alonso, CNN
3 minute read
Updated 5:23 AM EST, Mon November 13, 2023


Southern California drivers may face travel headaches this week after a large storage yard fire over the weekend shut down part of Interstate 10, one of the major traffic routes for downtown Los Angeles, authorities said.

A section of I-10, also known as the Santa Monica Freeway, was damaged and remained closed in both directions Sunday near Alameda Street in Los Angeles, a city well known for its traffic congestion issues.

Shortly before 12:30 a.m. Saturday, the Los Angeles Fire Department received reports of a fire at a 200-by-200-foot storage yard “with pallets, trailers and vehicles well involved in fire with buildings that were exposed,” Fire Chief Kristin Crowley said at a news conference Sunday.

“Wind pushed the heat and the flames under the freeway, and across the street ignited a secondary storage yard,” Crowley said.

The span of the blaze covered about 80,000 square feet, according to the fire department. More than 160 firefighters responded, Crowley said.

Several vehicles were also destroyed in the fire, but the fire department said they were able to save three nearby commercial buildings.

Much of the fire was extinguished less than three hours into the incident, according to Crowley, who added there were no injuries.

California Highway Patrol Officer Michael Masir told CNN the closed portion of I-10 “will remain closed until further notice, and there is currently no estimated time for reopening.”
There is currently no timeline on when the roadway will be fully repaired, officials said.
Laura Rubio-Cornejo, general manager of the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, said at a Sunday news conference the closure is expected to create “a significant traffic impact” to the region.

A Los Angeles firefighter uses a robotic hose to douse a fire under Interstate 10 that severely damaged an overpass downtown Los Angeles on Saturday.
Caltrans District 7/AP
“We know the impact that this fire will have on the surrounding communities as people need to drive to work, school and other activities,” Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said Sunday.
Officials say they are investigating the freeway’s stability as it remains closed.
Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency for Los Angeles County in response to the fire.
“The state is mobilizing resources and taking steps to ensure any necessary repairs are completed as soon as possible to minimize the impact on those traveling in and around Los Angeles,” Newsom said in a written statement.
The investigation into what caused the fire will conclude by Monday morning, Newsom said at Sunday’s news conference.
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Hazmat teams will work around the clock to clean up the damage on Interstate 10, according to Newsom, who said the scale of the fire’s damage is “substantially greater” than the collapse of a portion of Interstate 95 in Philadelphia in June.

“You name it, we saw it stored at this site,” said Newsom, who toured the location briefly. Wooden pallets, cars filled with gas and boxes of oranges have all been found under the Los Angeles bridge, officials said.

When asked by reporters why the flammable material was allowed to be stored under the bridge, the governor said, “That’s all being assessed.”

Newsom said the tenant of the site is in violation of their lease. “We’re in litigation, their lease has expired and we have been aggressive in addressing concerns as it relates to the lease itself,” he said.

According to Newsom, officials believe the tenant “subleased the space … with multiple subleases, that’s part of the litigation posture.”

Once the hazardous materials investigation is complete, structural engineers will be able to go in to determine the extent of the damage caused by the fire, city and state officials said.

Sunday evening, Bass stressed the fire and damage to Interstate 10 “is an emergency.”
“We are working night and day to make the repairs to restore the freeway,” the mayor said at a news briefing on traffic detours, where she asked travelers to plan for delays and check for alternate routes.

“I need to call on all Angelenos” to come together, the mayor urged, adding the situation will not be “resolved in one or two days.”

CNN’s Travis Nichols contributed to this report.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Chalk it up to another homeless fire.

10 Freeway shut down in downtown L.A. due to massive storage yard fire​

by: Will Conybeare
Posted: Nov 11, 2023 / 06:28 AM PST
Updated: Nov 11, 2023 11:56 PM PST

10 Freeway shut down in downtown L.A. due to massive storage yard fire

A large fire shut down part of the 10 Freeway in downtown Los Angeles early Saturday morning, and the closure will remain in place until further notice, officials said.

The blaze was first reported around 12:30 a.m. at a storage yard near East 14th and Alameda streets and quickly spread to neighboring storage yards, preliminary indication from the Los Angeles Fire Department indicated.

Fire had engulfed both sides of 14th Street underneath the 10, and the heat was so intense that it melted some of the freeway’s steel guardrails, according to LAFD Public Information Officer David Ortiz.
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Residents of a homeless encampment underneath the overpass were able to escape with no injuries, according to fire officials.

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Housecarl

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
My money is on a month and a half. NOTE the friable nature of the pillars and the support beams. Concrete and heat really do NOT mix directly.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Why do cities keep storing crap under highways??
"Cheap" and available space. I was once in an urban planning class and we had more than a few discussions regarding available space, both surface and vertical, in urban areas that could be put to use, akin to old London Bridge for example.
 

Creedmoor

Tempus Fugit
Man oh man! I used to have to use the 10 on my commute during my brief stint in LA in the mid 1980’s. It sucked even back then. That is going to put the HURT on a lotta peeps drive!!!
 

Macgyver

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Massive Homeless Encampment Fire Shuts Down LA FWY Indefinitely


Massive Homeless Encampment Fire Shuts Down Los Angeles Freeway Indefinitely
LOS ANGELES, CA NOVEMBER 12, 2023: Los Angeles firefighters continue to assess the damage from a fire under Interstate 10 near downtown Los Angeles, CA November 12, 2023. A section of the 10 Freeway in downtown Los Angeles that was damaged in a devastating fire over the weekend will remain …
Francine Orr/ Los Angeles Times/Getty

A massive fire at a homeless encampment beneath an underpass in downtown Los Angeles has shut down the 10 freeway indefinitely.

The fire occurred on Saturday in two storage areas beneath the freeway that also hosted a sprawling homeless encampment.

“The incident, which closed westbound and eastbound lanes of the busy freeway between Alameda Street and Santa Fe Avenue, will significantly affect traffic in the area, officials said at a news conference Sunday, without offering a timetable for reopening,” noted the Los Angeles Times.

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said Angelenos should expect the freeway to be close for some time.

Firefighters look at the their Fire Engine 17 that got burnt in a massive pallet fire under I-10 Freeway overpass at 1700 block of East 14th Street on Saturday, Nov. 11, 2023 in Los Angeles, CA. (Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)

Aerial views of the 10 Freeway a day after a large pallet fire burned below, shutting the freeway to traffic. (Robert Gauthier/Los Angeles Times via Getty)

Aerial views of the 10 Freeway a day after a large pallet fire burned below, shutting the freeway to traffic. (Robert Gauthier/Los Angeles Times via Getty)

“Unfortunately, there is no reason to think that this is going to be over in a couple of days,” she said. “We will need to come together and all cooperate until the freeway is rebuilt.”

Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom also declared a state of emergency to expedite the repairs, noting the “anxiety of millions and millions that live in this region.”

Roughly 300,000 vehicles travel the 10 freeway daily. As to when it can reopen, the Los Angeles Times described the process thusly:

Several things must occur before construction can begin — starting with an investigation into the cause of the fire. It is expected to be finished by 6 a.m. Monday. Mitigation of hazardous materials also needs to be completed before a detailed structural analysis of the damaged portions of the freeway can commence. Engineers will be inspecting the freeway’s columns and bridge deck.

This could be the most notable freeway closure in the Southland since the 1994 Northridge earthquake buckled portions of the 10 and other routes. The shutdown is expected to increase congestion on adjacent freeways where traffic is being diverted, among them the 5, 110 and 710.

California Transportation Secretary Toks Omishakin said the repairs will be a “significant” challenge. “This is not going to be an easy task for our structural engineers at Caltrans,” Omishakin noted.

Los Angeles saw a massive wildfire in 2017 that also sparked from a homeless encampment, burning through wealthy neighborhoods, and causing millions upon millions of dollars in damage.

“The fire that burned through one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country last week started as a cooking fire at a homeless encampment, according to an investigation by the Los Angeles Fire Department,” the Times noted at the time.

“Homeless people had been living in the neighborhood — Bel-Air, in northwest Los Angeles — making their encampment near an underpass of the 405 freeway along Sepulveda Boulevard for several years,” it added.

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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Love how the media tries to bury the homeless angle until they can't deny it anymore.
Life in California. Life in modern America.
Everybody knows the truth - you just can't speak it.

What a fall we have experienced.
 

wobble

Veteran Member
Love how the media tries to bury the homeless angle until they can't deny it anymore.
Life in California. Life in modern America.
Everybody knows the truth - you just can't speak it.

What a fall we have experienced.
The fire under I-85 in Atlanta turned instantly into a homeless/mental disorder political/charity drama, almost seeming like a distraction or redirection.
 

WalknTrot

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Photos and video at site.


November 13, 2023

Bum encampment fire shuts down major Los Angeles highway artery​

By Monica Showalter


Traffic in Los Angeles stinks and now it's going to get even stinkier.
According to CNN:
Southern California drivers may face travel headaches this week after a large storage yard fire over the weekend shut down part of Interstate 10, one of the major traffic routes for downtown Los Angeles, authorities said.
A section of I-10, also known as the Santa Monica Freeway, was damaged and remained closed in both directions Sunday near Alameda Street in Los Angeles, a city well known for its traffic congestion issues.
Shortly before 12:30 a.m. Saturday, the Los Angeles Fire Department received reports of a fire at a 200-by-200-foot storage yard “with pallets, trailers and vehicles well involved in fire with buildings that were exposed,” Fire Chief Kristin Crowley said at a news conference Sunday.
“Wind pushed the heat and the flames under the freeway, and across the street ignited a secondary storage yard,” Crowley said.


Ahh, a pallet fire, they said. A storage-area fire, they said. A rent dispute with a bad tenant...

According to the local presses, it was bums camping out under the Santa Monica freeway with no zoning enforcement whatsoever. Some were said to be stealing electricity. Others were reportedly using propane tanks for cooking.

But as the press puts it "cause unknown."

These vast highway arteries roaring through the center of America's second-largest city things just ... catch fire.

That's going to be a heck of a miserable commute for Angelenos who have to use that highway, which is pretty much all of them. It's the main highway of the city, stretching from the downtown area all the way to Santa Monica's beaches, crossing the industrial areas, the USC area, the Crenshaw and Leimert Park area communities, the La Brea tar pits area, the Pico-Robertson quarter leading into Beverly Hills, the Culver City area, the turnoff to the Marina, the Westwood/UCLA area, and the long way through Santa Monica. It's right at the critical interchange of highways coming in and going out, too. I know, because I took this highway a lot when I lived in Los Angeles.

Traffic rerouting recommendations include taking the 110 highway from Pasadena to Long Beach, and the 101 Hollywood Freeway -- as if those highways aren't hellish enough without additional traffic added. I know I took the 10 just to avoid those dangerous semi-truck going-too-fast highways. The Hollywood freeway in particular is a misery of bad signage telling you to get into the wrong lanes for your turnoff. I can't imagine spillover traffic getting onto that one.

More likely, a lot of people will take Venice Boulevard and Washington Boulevard if it's still doable, or the La Brea Slauson USC-to-Marina del Rey cut-through.

And they have no idea how long this will go on as the damage is being assessed but it's pretty obvious there is damage from the fire making the stretch of highway impassable, so lucky Angelenos.

Sure, there will be an investigation. California's Gov. Gavin Newsom says it will be quick. But based on what we have seen elsewhere, if the results are not what they want, it will be an extended investigation, one with no disclosures owing to the investigation, like the Nashville shooter case.

That said, it's pretty obvious that allowing a bum encampment full of illegal drug users is just a matter of time before some kind of disaster occurs.

And that raises questions about the wisdom of this. Does a disaster have to occur before they can clear a bum encampment and place drug addicts either in jail or involuntary rehab until they clean up? They have been tolerating this stuff for years, all in the name of coddling the bums' 'civil rights.'

Now the public has to pay for it, and not just in money, but in a reduced quality of life as commutes extend and getting around Los Angeles is going to get a lot harder. Newsom says this loss of the freeway will be much worse than the freeway shutdown that hit Philadelphia earlier this year, the one Pete Buttigieg rushed over to. No sign of him, of course as Newsom takes the cameras.

What's it going to take for all-Democrat-run Los Angeles to put the public's interest ahead of the special interests?

Maybe this blue city will wake up.
 

WOS

Veteran Member
An update on this frm this morning:

LA Times

Arson is behind the massive fire that shut down the 10 Freeway, officials say​

Nathan Solis, Ruben Vives, Richard Winton, Brennon Dixson, Ashley Ahn
Mon, November 13, 2023 at 9:41 AM MST·9 min read

The massive fire that has shut down a crucial section of the 10 Freeway in downtown Los Angeles was caused by arson, officials said Monday as they raced to assess the extent of the damage and determine how long it would take to reopen.

More than 100 columns along the swath of the freeway were damaged — nine or 10 of them severely — Gov. Gavin Newsom said.

It's still unclear, pending the results of official tests at the site, if the entire overpass will be torn down or retrofitted.
The situation poses a commuting challenge that L.A. has not seen in years, with hundreds of thousands of commuters facing detours and heavier-than-normal traffic. Starting Monday, some worked from home and others took mass transit, but many simply endured the delays.

The closure caused gridlock in some areas, but there was general sentiment that L.A. survived the first morning and evening commute without too much chaos thanks in part to warnings sent to residents' cellphones.
The fire began under the overpass at Alameda Street early Saturday morning, fueled by wood pallets stored there.
Although the exact cause of the fire has not been revealed, "there was [malicious] intent," Newsom said at a news conference Monday afternoon.

In addition to pallets, sanitizer accumulated during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic was stored under the overpass and helped fuel the flames, according to sources familiar with the probe who were not authorized to discuss details of the investigation.

State Fire Marshal Daniel Berlant appealed for witnesses to call a tip line with information and noted those tips could be given anonymously.

"We have identified the point of origin of the fire," Berlant said. He would not provide further detail, saying the investigation was ongoing. Berlant said investigators had dug through the rubble for evidence and canvassed the neighborhood for witnesses.

Officials said the property where the fire broke out was being leased by Calabasas-based Apex Development Inc., which was subleasing the storage site under the overpass without permission from state and federal agencies. The company stopped paying rent, according to Newsom, and had been out of compliance with its lease agreement.

Federal, state and local agencies are scrambling to determine what happens next after the sudden closure of the mile-long section of the heavily trafficked freeway between Alameda Street and the East L.A interchange, a key east-west route through downtown. Mayor Karen Bass said that U.S. Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg called and reassured her that federal officials were aware of the impact from closing one of the busiest freeway corridors in the country.
"Losing the stretch of the 10 Freeway will take time and money from people's lives and businesses," Bass said. "It's disrupting in every way. Whether you were talking about traveling to and from work, or your child care plans, and the flow of goods and commerce, this will disrupt the lives of Angelenos."

Mitigation of hazardous materials at the site is ongoing, but most of the site has been cleared for structural engineers and maintenance crews to start their work, California Transportation Secretary Toks Omishakin said. They have taken samples of the freeway columns and bridge deck.

An initial influx of federal emergency funds has been secured, said Tony Tavares, director of the California Department of Transportation. Contractors have installed shoring underneath the overpass and in the most heavily damaged areas. Video footage from the scene shows the charred underbelly of the overpass and what appear to be sections of columns chipped away.

The fire was reported early Saturday, shortly after midnight, in the 1700 block of East 14th Street after a pallet yard under the freeway caught fire and spread to a second pallet yard, damaging the freeway overpass and destroying several vehicles, including a firetruck, authorities said.

Timothy Garrison, 55, was sleeping behind a nearby Shell gas station near the overpass when he heard explosions, he said Monday morning as he sat against a wall near 14th and Elwood streets, around the corner from the site of the fire.
When he peeked out of his makeshift tent made of plastic trash bags, he saw giant flames flickering out of the overpass.
“The heat was so intense,” he said. “I thought the overpass was going to crumble.”

Garrison heard about 10 to 15 pops and explosions as the fire continued to rage, and he moved to escape the heat, he said.

He knew of some people who lived underneath the freeway but said he had not seen them.
Bass said 16 people were living in the encampment, and all had been moved into hotels and motels.
A row of blue tarps, trailers and wooden shacks sat along 14th Street on Monday among piles of wood from pallets and metal debris. Wooden pallet yards are common along the 10 Freeway in the industrial center near downtown.
Not far from Santa Clara Street, a group of men had set cardboard and wood on fire to cook several feet from a pallet yard.

CalFire officials said they were taking all elements into consideration in their investigation, including the presence of homeless people in the area. But on Monday afternoon, Bass said there was "no reason to assume the reason this fire happened was because there were unhoused individuals nearby."

Workers in the area said firefighters frequently come to put out fires caused by people living on the streets.
It's why Antolín Padilla, 34, installed fire extinguishers at the entrances of his business Jaz Pallets, which sits along the railroad tracks near Santa Clara Street. He and another pallet yard owner on 14th Street agreed to enforce a "no camping zone" around their businesses, often telling people to camp elsewhere, after a fire spread to the wall of Padilla’s pallet yard a few months ago.

“The workers grabbed the extinguishers in time and were able to put it out,” he said, pointing to a charred corner of the wall. “The city needs to move people from this area.”

Nearby, David Cortez, 34, owner of D&G Pallets, said the fire shows why he’s often on edge.
Standing outside his business, he pointed to a pole where a thin green wire dangled from the power line above, saying he worried about homeless people tampering with lines to tap into the electricity.

“I’m not even sure if that wire is energized or not, but it’s dangerous,” he said. “And the fire hydrants have been damaged from people attempting to use pliers to get water.”

Derrick Smith, 39, walked nearby pushing a cart filled with metal debris. He had been staying near the overpass when the fire broke out. At least five or six people were living around him, he said.

Smith said he was in a deep sleep when he started to hear people banging on his trailer to warn him of the fire.
“They kept saying there’s a fire and get out,” he said. He ran away, leaving all his belongs behind.
“The heat was intense as hell,” he said.

Wearing a blue hoodie, black shorts and dirty Crocs, he said he had no change of clothes and is not sure whether he lost his trailer.

“I probably did,” he said, stuffing his hands in the pockets of his sweater.
Monday's commute was the first weekday for Angelenos encountering the disruption. The mayor's office sent an emergency advisory Sunday evening alerting residents about the detour, and officials encouraged employers to let their employees work remotely if possible. Nearby L.A. Unified schools remained open, though traffic was expected to be worse, especially in Boyle Heights and south of downtown.

At Grand Central Market, Maria Behringer scrambled Monday to set up the pastries for Bastion Bakery after she left her apartment near USC around 6:40 a.m. and arrived around 7:15 a.m. Though the market opens at 8 a.m., she needed time to set up her station before customers started trickling in.

“I was definitely rushing more than I usually do, so it was little a bit of a stressor,” said Behringer, 30. “I didn’t realize how close the fire was to downtown and I didn’t realize it would affect my commute.”

Her partner, Brandon Walsh, who rode in with her, said their usual commute takes them east on the 10 and then onto the 110 Freeway. But this time, the GPS rerouted them to side streets.

“I think so much was diverted to 110 [because of the fire] so the GPS just told us to get off at Grand and go into the city,” said Walsh, 32.

Officials encouraged car commuters to try alternatives, such as Metrolink, rail lines and local bus services, which are all expecting an increase in daily riders.

Metro Chief Executive Stephanie Wiggins told Angelenos to "plan ahead, share the ride, and keep up to date" on the disruption. She said there was a noticeable increase in cars parked at Union Station on Sunday, indicating people are taking advantage of public transportation. Officials directed drivers to check the detour status online at emergency.lacity.gov, and commuters can call 511 or check Metro.net for alternative routes.

"This is our litmus test," Omishakin said Monday. "Did we reach everyone and convince them that they need to plan ahead and plan alternate routes?"

At Union Station, Metro ambassadors said foot traffic was lighter than usual.
Brian Lin, 45, of Anaheim was sitting in heavy traffic on the 5 Freeway when he decided to park his car at Atlantic station in East Los Angeles and take the train into Union Station.

He admitted he doesn’t typically take the train to work, but Monday’s congestion called for a change — at least for one day.

“Luckily, it was just a quick meeting that I had to do in the office,” Lin said before an incoming Metro train chimed in the distance. “I think my ride is here.”

Claire Stolwyk, 27, waited for the J line bus at the Civic Center/Grand Park station while reading a book when she realized she had forgotten to check whether her commute to Cal State L.A. would be affected.

She pulled out her phone and saw a notice from Metro on Google Maps, but it looked like her route was in the clear. The bus pulled up to the stop on time.
 
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