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Misc SHTF and....Pets
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I would certainly eat our dogs before letting my daughter starve to death. If things were that bad, it would probably mean we couldn't feed the dogs anymore, anyway. But not only are we fond of our dogs, they are essential to our plans for protection. So I will keep them alive and healthy as long as possible.
When I still had Scout, my big Collie/English Shepherd cross (3/4 Collie, 1/4 ES), for a while I fed him almost exclusively on old-fashioned oatmeal (not the instant kind) mixed with raw goat milk. The oatmeal was raw, soaked overnight usually. When I had kefir, I added some of that with the milk. He also got some kitchen scraps, but that wasn't a large part of his diet; at least once a week he got a couple of raw eggs mixed in with the oatmeal. He weighed about 85 lbs. The big livestock guardian dogs should do fine on that diet, too. They don't need a high protein diet like some of the high-energy breeds do. They are actually fairly economical to keep, considering their size.
Kathleen
When I still had Scout, my big Collie/English Shepherd cross (3/4 Collie, 1/4 ES), for a while I fed him almost exclusively on old-fashioned oatmeal (not the instant kind) mixed with raw goat milk. The oatmeal was raw, soaked overnight usually. When I had kefir, I added some of that with the milk. He also got some kitchen scraps, but that wasn't a large part of his diet; at least once a week he got a couple of raw eggs mixed in with the oatmeal. He weighed about 85 lbs. The big livestock guardian dogs should do fine on that diet, too. They don't need a high protein diet like some of the high-energy breeds do. They are actually fairly economical to keep, considering their size.
Kathleen
Yeah..lets just say that dogs chasing deer are not a problem (for long) in my neighborhood (N MN).
It's even legal for the public to shoot 'em between Jan 1 and July 14 - no questions asked.
Quote from the regs:
Minnesota DNR web site. Page 29 of the hunting regulations.
Dogs Pursuing Big Game
"No person may allow their dog to chase or kill big game. Between January 1 and July 14 a dog that is observed wounding, killing, or pursuing in a way that endangers big game may be killed by any person. A peace officer or conservation officer may kill a dog that endangers big game any time of the year. The officer or person is not liable for damages for killing the dog."
Marseydoats
Veteran Member
What my dogs do on my property is nobody's business but mine. And she ate the entire deer.
Unlike the worthless rednecks who spotlight, chase them on 4 wheelers, and then just cut the bucks heads off and leave all the meat to rot.
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
It does, but I owe my life several times over to my Pack. I will not use such a Treasure as a food source. It is up to me as the Apex Predator in the family to provide food for all of us.
Rest assured, I will.
I am prepped for all the pets ... two dogs, one cat ... except for my son's gecko ... that requires LIVE crickets to eat. Gotta figure out how to grow crickets for the little orange dinosaur.
He's called a tangerine leopard gecko but they are also occasionally called a tangerine tornado gecko. The picture below is what he looks like except the only place he is "leopard" is the very tip of his tail which is white with black spots and he has a small black spot between his front shoulders on his back. He's a riot because he is nocturnal so right when my son is trying to go to sleep Silas wants to come out and navigate the world. He has to stay in his glass world because he is NOT people friendly. He'll come when he hears my voice or when he knows it is chow time but otherwise wants to be left alone. And when he gets hacked off his feet turn black and his face gets dark.
He's called a tangerine leopard gecko but they are also occasionally called a tangerine tornado gecko. The picture below is what he looks like except the only place he is "leopard" is the very tip of his tail which is white with black spots and he has a small black spot between his front shoulders on his back. He's a riot because he is nocturnal so right when my son is trying to go to sleep Silas wants to come out and navigate the world. He has to stay in his glass world because he is NOT people friendly. He'll come when he hears my voice or when he knows it is chow time but otherwise wants to be left alone. And when he gets hacked off his feet turn black and his face gets dark.
I once asked a coworker from communist Kazakastan how they fed their dogs, since the communist regimes were notoriously short on meat even for human consumption and no dog food was sold in their stores. He said that everyone fed them a mixture of oatmeal, eggs, and table scraps.
Same as Grandma used to do. Leftover rice, veg, potatoes or bread and milk, too. Don't forget pan gravy...any fat scrapings in the frying pan, flour and water or milk. Pan gravy makes anything go down better.
AlfaMan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
TBear and Roscoe are both provided for in our preps. And both will pretty much eat whatever is put in front of them anyway. We would not/could not eat our pets.
We have been feeding the squirrels and birds out here. The squirrels get regular feedings of unshelled peanuts. The birds get a inexpensive bird food (WalMart's economy bird food) too.
The squirrels are nice and chubby and they're always around. If it gets bad they're an instant meal and easy to catch and clean.
The bird feeder gets it's share of birds; and interestingly enough, quail. They seem to love the bird food mix and they're growing nice and fat too.
Nice thing is, these protein supplies don't require refrigeration. They're on the hoof until needed.
We have been feeding the squirrels and birds out here. The squirrels get regular feedings of unshelled peanuts. The birds get a inexpensive bird food (WalMart's economy bird food) too.
The squirrels are nice and chubby and they're always around. If it gets bad they're an instant meal and easy to catch and clean.
The bird feeder gets it's share of birds; and interestingly enough, quail. They seem to love the bird food mix and they're growing nice and fat too.
Nice thing is, these protein supplies don't require refrigeration. They're on the hoof until needed.
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
Chewy and Amazon will deliver to your door.
My teen niece once asked me how I would feed my German Shepherd dog of the time if things crashed. I told her that I would feed him raiders. She asked what that was. I said that it was people who came to steal our food. I would shoot them and already had a machete on hand for chopping them up into meat for the dog. My brother told me to never discuss it again with her.
Trouble
Veteran Member
Neighbor makes a fine meal, I'd eat them loooooooong before I'd think about a dog.
NoDandy
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Our cats are important for rodent control. Our dogs are important as warning systems. Also, as we go out around the property, they are again warning systems, as well as additional protection. They are also companions / members of the family. They will be provided for. As many others have said, we will not be eating them. If TSHTF, we have plenty of food stocks, and we are rural enough that we have an abundance of deer, rabbit, squirrel, turkey, fish, we even have bear. The cats can take care of themselves. The dogs have been known to catch rabbits. Our fur babies besides their reg food get a helping of table scraps. So they are provided for. They will not be the meal.
Remember that song...I think by Weird Al Yancovic, "Garfield on my Fork"
I also remember that 1970's craze about the kilbin's cats. I've got a print of a cat on a stool with a guitar, singing, love them mousies, mousies what I love to eat. Bite their heads off and nibble on their tiny feet ... something close to that. Cats will do fine or starve.
West
Senior
Agree I couldn't eat our beloved fur kids.
But the neighbors neglected dog? I know the neighbors pet peacocks are first on the list,
West
Senior
On one hand, your post is kinda crazy. But in reality and under a SHTF no food available reality...
The correct mindset is probably right in your post. Just perhaps add to that to also put the raiders heads on the fence post down by the main hwy, as a heads up to other raiders, not to turn off the main road?
MinnesotaSmith
Membership Revoked
You don't often see a pro-Kuru/pro-Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease advocate, but there's one now.
Kayak
Adrenaline Junkie
Our three large dogs go through around a hundred and twenty pounds of food a month. I always have a three-month supply on hand, though last year that went up to a five-month supply. We have a few fifty-pound bags of rice, so in a pinch, we could stretch their dog food to last longer by adding cooked rice, but that's a short-term solution, not a long-term one. You can add pasta to stretch it and make it last longer as well, for those of you who have it in large supply.
Trouble
Veteran Member
Bit of a stretch now Isn't it?
Buick Electra
TB2K Girls with Guns
I've got a buttload of chicken frozen and 20lbs of rice stored so if it comes down to it, I can boil that up, but in blender and viola! If cats refuse to eat it there is nothing I can do and I'd be worried about a lot more during SHTF.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I make cornbread, and what's left from the meal, I crumble into his bowl, and mix with left over pea soup, or soup from whatever veggie I cooked, along with any meat scraps. I have some old cornmeal that I went ahead and vaccum sealed just for making cornbread to feed him to go with all the extra rice stored for him. Dogs usually will eat any type of bread. Ours loves his cornbread.
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MinnesotaSmith
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Not at all. You do know how those are transmitted?