CORP/BIZ Shops could soon be allowed to sell fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces-[UK]

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Shops could soon be allowed to sell fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces under a post-Brexit bonfire of EU red tape being pursued by the Government
  • The Government has announced a major review of EU law on the UK statute book
  • EU laws will be 'improved or repealed' if they do not benefit the British public
  • Overhaul will include looking at EU restrictions on selling in pounds and ounces
By JACK MAIDMENT, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 16:17, 16 September 2021 | UPDATED: 20:03, 16 September 2021

Shops could soon be allowed to sell fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces as part of a Government plan to hold a bonfire of EU red tape.

Ministers have announced a major review of all the EU laws which were kept on the UK statute book after Brexit.

The legislation made in Brussels will be 'improved or repealed' if it is judged not to benefit the British people.

The shake-up will include a review of EU restrictions on selling goods in pounds and ounces in what could pave the way for a return to using more imperial units.

The Government's Brexit chief, Lord Frost, said 'overbearing regulations were often conceived and agreed in Brussels with little consideration of the UK national interest' and 'we now have the opportunity to do things differently'.
Shops could soon be allowed to sell fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces as part of a Government plan to hold a bonfire of EU red tape


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Shops could soon be allowed to sell fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces as part of a Government plan to hold a bonfire of EU red tape
The shake-up will include a review of EU restrictions on selling goods in pounds and ounces in what could pave the way for a return to using more imperial units


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The shake-up will include a review of EU restrictions on selling goods in pounds and ounces in what could pave the way for a return to using more imperial units

Boris Johnson asked former Cabinet minister Sir Iain Duncan Smith in February to convene a new Taskforce on Innovation, Growth and Regulatory Reform to look at existing EU laws and to identify areas where improvements could be made.
The Government's response to the taskforce's report includes a 'package of proposed individual regulatory reforms to laws inherited while a member of the EU'.

The proposed changes include looking at whether to change the rules on people being allowed to sell goods using imperial units of measurement.

The Government said in its 'Brexit opportunities' document: 'We will review the EU ban on markings and sales in imperial units and legislate in due course.'

The current law states that traders must use metric measurements like grams, kilograms, mililitres and litres when selling packaged or loose goods in England, Scotland or Wales.

The only products which can be sold in imperial units are beer or cider by the pint, milk in a returnable container by the pint, and precious metals by the troy ounce.

The existing rules state that traders 'can display an imperial measurement alongside the metric measurement but it cannot stand out more than the metric measurement'.

The shift from imperial to metric measurements began before the UK joined the EU in 1973.

But the gradual metrication became a rallying point for many anti-EU campaigners.

Regulations were introduced in 1994 requiring goods to be weighed in metric but they were fiercely opposed by some traders, with the Metric Martyrs group campaigning for the right to choose which unit of measurement to use.

Efforts to make the UK fully metric were ultimately abandoned, as units like pints and miles remained in place.

The 'Brexit opportunities' document also includes a pledge to reintroduce the 'Crown Stamp' on pint glasses in pubs.

The Government said: 'We will remove the EU-derived prohibition on printing the Crown Stamp on pint glasses and allowing publicans and restaurants to voluntarily embrace this important symbol on their glassware, should they choose to do so.'

The Crown Stamp, which dates back hundreds of years, was used to show drinkers that a pint or half-pint glass was an accurate unit of the measurement.

It was replaced in 2007 by the EU's 'CE' mark which is used in countries throughout the bloc to prove products comply to Brussels' standards.

The plan to tear up EU laws includes a proposal to set up a new commission through which the public will be able to submit suggestions for cutting or reforming red tape.
The Government's Brexit chief, Lord Frost, said 'overbearing regulations were often conceived and agreed in Brussels with little consideration of the UK national interest' and 'we now have the opportunity to do things differently'


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The Government's Brexit chief, Lord Frost, said 'overbearing regulations were often conceived and agreed in Brussels with little consideration of the UK national interest' and 'we now have the opportunity to do things differently'

Submissions will then be considered by officials who will make recommendations for change to the Government.

Lord Frost, the Cabinet Office Minister, said: 'From rules on data storage to the ability of businesses to develop new green technologies, overbearing regulations were often conceived and agreed in Brussels with little consideration of the UK national interest.

'We now have the opportunity to do things differently and ensure that Brexit freedoms are used to help businesses and citizens get on and succeed.

'Today's announcement is just the beginning. The Government will go further and faster to create a competitive, high-standards regulatory environment which supports innovation and growth across the UK as we build back better from the pandemic.'

Another of the reforms being pushed forward by ministers is to modernise the UK's driving licence system by rolling out digital documentation.

The 'Brexit opportunities' document said: 'The Government will deliver a more convenient, modernised system for British motorists through digital versions of driving licences, driving test certificates, and MOT testing processes.'

The Government will also 'reconsider' regulations on using drones to spray plant protection chemicals on crops.
This is already allowed but only if it can be proved that it can be 'done in a way that does not harm human health or have unacceptable effects on the environment'.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
George Orwell (you know, “1984”) hated the metric system.

“I arst you civil enough, didn’t I?’ said the old man, straightening his shoulders pugnaciously. ‘You telling me you ain’t got a pint mug in the ‘ole bleeding boozer?’

‘And waht in hell’s name is a pint?’ said the barman, leaning forward with the tips of his fingers on the container.

‘ ‘Ark at ‘im. Call ‘isself a barman and don’t know what a pint is! Why, a pint’s the ‘alf of a quart and there’s four quarts to the gallon. “Ave to tach you the A, B, C, next.”

‘Never ‘eard of ’em,’ the barman said shortly. “Litre and half litre — that’s all we serve.’
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I'm mentioned before that one of the things that I think put BREXIT voters over the line in favor of it was the absolutely tone-deaf way the EU chose to try to deal with this issue.

Bullying the UK government and citizens alike, forcing them to drag elderly tailors and grocers to court because their clients want to buy fabric in yards and vegetables in pounds.

The final straw really was the long-drawn-out and wasteful fight for pubs to be "allowed" to serve pints, for a good chunk of time the Bureaucrats of Brussels were adamant that English Ale could only be sold in liters. Faced with a massive public backlash and realizing the idea of a BREXIT was getting legs, they decreed an "exemption" for pubs (for historical reasons).

But as you can see in the article they still demanded the Crown stamping used for hundreds of years be removed and replaced by an EU sticker.

Sometimes history is made by what seems like little things, and I'm convinced these demands were some of the reasons people in the English heartland voted for BREXIT, which only passed by about 2 percent of the vote (Scotland and Northern Ireland voted strongly against it which is the source of some of the current issues in the UK).
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Excellent idea. The British to be British once more. Next challenge? To get the colonies to fly the Red Ensign again.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I expect the younger generations will be flummoxed by it, if they even use/comprehend any kind of math/measurement on a daily basis. It's not a stretch in the U.S. for people to use and understand both systems. If a person works in science, medical field, engineering, construction, drafting, machining, etc. they do it every day. Of course, they tend to be the best and brightest, too.

I say go for it. Regain some national identity/dignity from the wanna-be EU zombie-makers.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I don't think even most Brits have a problem using metrics for things like lab work or even on a construction site (as long as things are consistent). Brits have done their baking mostly by weighing things in metrics for years now.

But being told they could not (as in legally forbidden by law) buy their groceries by the pound, the fabric by the yard, and that final push to try and force them to get rid of pints, just sent things over the edge.

One interesting thing, the last month or so I had noticed weather reports from the UK were once again in both Centigrade and Farnheight, which make figuring things out a lot easier for me. Also, some online UK papers have started using miles rather than kilometers when talking about road conditions.
 
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