HEALTH Sepsis Can Strike, Kill Shockingly Fast

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/29/ep.sepsis.infection/index.html

Sepsis can strike, kill shockingly fast

Brazilian model Mariana Bridi da Costa, 20, died after sepsis infection spread
Sepsis starts as infection in one part of body, but sometimes rages out of control
With treatment, about 75 percent of sepsis patients survive




By Elizabeth Cohen
CNN Medical Correspondent
(CNN) -- One look at her photo, and you can't help but ask: How could someone so young and vibrant die so quickly from an infection?

Brazilian model Mariana Bridi da Costa died from a sepsis infection.

Brazilian model Mariana Bridi da Costa was a healthy 20-year-old when doctors told her she had a urinary tract infection, her family says. The infection spread, and after amputating her feet, doctors thought they had the situation under control, according to a blog run by a family friend.

"She's alive, [she] will survive," Renato Lindgren wrote on the blog on January 20. "She can eat well, visit the sea, swim, travel, talk with her friends and family, marry and have a baby. She has a full and beautiful life ahead."

Four days later, da Costa was dead.

Sepsis -- the body's inflammatory response to an infection -- really can kill that quickly, according to Dr. Kevin Tracey, author of a book about sepsis called "Fatal Sequence: The Killer Within."

"This isn't a one in a million case," says Tracey, chief executive officer of the Feinstein Institute for Medical Research in Manhasset, New York. "When an infection reaches a certain point, this can happen in a matter of hours."

Sepsis usually starts out as an infection in just one part of the body, such as a skin wound or a urinary tract infection, Tracey says. For example, Muppets creator Jim Henson died in 1990 from a case of sepsis that started out as pneumonia, an inflammation of the lungs. He was 53.

Most of the time, simple, localized infections remain just that: easy to treat and in one part of the body. Why some infections rage out of control and shut down vital organs is a mystery, but experts say it rarely happens in young, healthy people, like da Costa.

"You can ask, 'Why her?' but really no one knows why her," Tracey says. "It might have something to do with her immune system. It might be about her genetics."

The Mayo Clinic sees about 100 cases a year of young, healthy people who develop sepsis, says Dr. Priya Sampathkumar, an infectious disease specialist at Mayo. With treatment, which usually involves antibiotics and sometimes draining of the wound, about 75 percent survive.

Sampathkumar says the key is to keep an eye on even such simple infections as a small skin wound. A fever, a dramatic shift in blood pressure, rapid breathing and extreme confusion are all signs that someone needs quick medical help, she says.

"You need to watch it," she says.

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Dr. Carl Flatley said he had no idea what to watch for when his 23-year-old daughter, Erin, developed sepsis in 2002. He says she went into the hospital for a minor hemorrhoid procedure and five days later was dead from sepsis. "It's a horrible death," he says.

Two years later, knowing the signs of sepsis saved his own life, says Flatley, a dentist in Dunedin, Florida. He fell ill, and an emergency room doctor said he had a urinary tract infection and sent him home.

But Flatley said he suspected it was much more than a UTI. "I felt very sick. My testicle was sore. I told him I was concerned I had sepsis and I refused to go home. He got very irritated with me," Flatley says. But in the end, Flatley was admitted to the hospital, where the infection had become so severe that doctors were forced to remove his right testicle.

Flatley started The Sepsis Alliance to educate others about sepsis, where he tries to walk a fine line. "You don't want to panic people. We all get infections and, thank God, most of them heal," he says. "So this is what I tell people: If you're feeling bad all over and have a high temperature and either high or low blood pressure, those are all indications that your whole system has been infected. It could be sepsis."

He advises getting medical help immediately, and to specifically mention that you're concerned you might have sepsis. "You don't want to take any chances," he says.
 

The Traveler

Veteran Member
My father died of sepsis

On January 2, 2000 my father died of sepsis related to a simple sinus infection. He had leukemia and had been fighting this infection for a few days when on the 2nd he began running a high fever. He had just had bypass surgery in June. He went to the hospital, they admitted him at 7AM and he was dead at 930. It was the saddest day of my life. Dont let infections get out control because it can be deadly.
 

mcchrystal

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My Dad died January 24, 1998 from pneumonia and sepsis.

Just like you, Traveler - Easily the worst day of my life, because I
lost my greatest friend and advocate.

I learned something, though - Never ignore minor, nagging symptoms.

-Steve in Burbank
 

UncurledA

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You've done it again, fruit loop ! Finally I can make sense out of sepsis. Believe me, I have been reading up and trying to get a practical idea on this somewhat intractable disease, with little success, as a non-medical person. Your great article really pulled it together, and needs bumped for other searchers to stumble across.
 

Surprise

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This is ironic, I was looking up sepsis and refreshing my memory earlier today.

My 73 year old FIL has a severe UTI ,( lots of blood and pain )and he got IV antibiotics on an outpatient basis yesterday and then again today. Then they gave him a prescription and sent him home a short while ago.

He is also currently suffering from Shingles.

This sounds like a bad combo to me, but I guess time will tell.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Steve and Traveler, I'm sorry you lost someone to this, it sounds like a terrible illness. Surprise, I hope your FIL recovers quickly.

My mom use to get blood poisoning all the time, every time she got the slightest cut, even a hangnail. I remember seeing the red line from the wound heading towards her heart and off we'd go to the doctor. Are these two illnesses related?

I imagine colloidal silver would kick sepsis quickly if one ever got it. Since I found MSM powder to work synergystically with CS, I always combine the two when I use it now, especially when dealing with an infection.
 

UncurledA

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Flippper:

Since I found MSM powder to work synergystically with CS, I always combine the two when I use it now, especially when dealing with an infection.

Wow. Thanks for sharing that, and doggone it, why didn't you share it sooner ??? lol
 

Warandra

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Is there a simple blood test to diagnose this or is it something that takes lots of time and money to find?
 

mcchrystal

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The red line is call cellulitis: an infection in between layers of skin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulitis

Interesting. Isn't blood poisoning the same as sepsis, though?
I could be wrong, but I thought an RN told me sepsis "is what
we used to call blood poisoning." I also seem to recall that she
told me some of the bacteria causing sepsis now are very resistant
to antibotic treatment. It was kind of a blur, though, so I could
be completely wrong.

I also now, though, that cellulitis is pretty awful stuff; I had a friend
who spontaneously grew blood vessels due to cellulitis, and eventually
lost her kidneys to *that* particularly horrible disease...

-Steve in Burbank
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
Reading all this makes me understand how lucky I have been. Decades ago I had pneumonia 5 or 6 times in about an 8 year period. Then a dental x-ray showed the dentist that my sinus cavities were infected. The doctor I went to said the cavities were impacted with infection so I had laser surgery.

Since then I have been on antibiotics many times for urinary infections. Then last month I had a staph infection that required surgery. Now that I can see it in the mirror they took out a chunk of tissue.

Maybe there is something to what the PH balance is in your body because mine is very acidic and seems to fight infection. Otherwisw I would have been dead long ago.
 

Twalls47

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One of my older sisters has Multiple sclerosis..which has caused her to have numbness in her private parts..When she is urinating, she knows it is coming, from the sound of it hitting the water in the toilet or by looking, that being said..Last fall, she started feeling really bad, but thought it was just the flu or something, fever and body aches..On the 4th day, she was not eating or drinking and just laying in the bed, my brother-in-law rushed her to the ER, she was admitted right away and after just 2 days, she was put into ICU..by the 2nd day in ICU, her kidneys started shutting down, she was spetic from the worse UTI, the doctor said he had ever seen. She was on dialysis for over 3 weeks, was in something like a coma for over 2mths, she developed pneumonia and it got so bad she was put on oxygen and then finally had to have a tracheostomy (tube in the the throat to help her breathe)..Then she started to have heart problems, they had to shock her heart a few times to get the rhythm back like it should be, finally they had to do, something like micro-wave a part of her heart, which Thank God, fixed that.

During all this time, she has a really bad relapse of her M.S., which compicated, once she started to recover, getting back on her feet.

She finally did recover, got to come home and with lots of therapy is now back to walking.

She told us afterward, she had notice, her urine was really dark, before she got sick, but thought it was just from something she had dranked. Course she never did feel any pain, like you have with a UTI, which would had let her know, she was sick, sooner. The only lasting effects, her short term memory isn't to good but she has totally recovered.

Due to the delayed in the treatment for the UTI, she went septic..We came very close to losing her. She is only 59 yrs old and fixing to have her 60th birthday in a week, we gonna make sure it is a very special day for her :D
 

dissimulo

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Blood poisoning is a dated/layman's term for sepsis. They are basically the same thing, although blood poisoning was also a term for bacteremia (bacteria in the blood), which is frequently the event that precedes sepsis.

Cellulitis is an infection/inflammation of the connective tissue just under the skin (stratum basale into the dermis). It is not necessarily related to sepsis, although it can be a symptom, as it represents a wide-spread infection.

Reddened blood vessels showing through the skin is probably not cellulitis, but vasculitis. Vasculitis is a symptom of the fight going on between the bacteria in the blood and the white blood cells, with dead cells and cellular debris inflaming the blood vessel.

Any bacteria that can infect the body can cause sepsis. All the resistant bacteria that thrive in hospitals are top candidates. However, a normal immune system for someone in their teens to their 50s should be very resistant to sepsis. Unfortunately, we don't always know what all the components of "normal" are, so it is hard to determine conclusively if someone's immune system is abnormal until something dramatic happens.
 

hereiam

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Actually, speaking from personal experience....

D-Mannose is awesome for UTI's.
I've had to treat myself three with D-Mannose and it works well. I went in for antibiotics twice and was told that upon having just one UTI, my risk for recurring UTI's went up dramatically. I didn't think much of it until my second UTI. That's when I went looking for something natural to treat at home and I found it. I've not been back for antibiotics since. I drink the stuff in water several times a day for about a week intensely and then as often as I can remember to take it the second week. By the time the second week is past the infection is GONE with no recurring symptoms. The immediate result is positive with symptoms lessening dramatically within just the first 2-3 days.

The science behind D-mannose is that it is a simple sugar (found in the likes of cranberry juice) that binds to the bateria molecularly. Then in the bound form you excrete the bacteria when you pee. Some might call the D-mannose a 'slipping agent' as it helps the spiky harmful bacteria that clings to the urinary tract walls to 'slip' safely and completely through your system. I highly recommend it. I tried drinking cranberry juice and was going through a quart a day and couldn't knock out the infection on my own till D-mannose. PLEASE give it a try if you have UTI's. A bottle costs about $25 and can readily treat 2-3 infections, in my experience. Shoot...it even gives my bunny relief from his bladder infections!
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
I saw a young man (late 20's) die from sepsis that followed an abscessed tooth when I worked in the local ICU. I had some dental work that I had postponed for a long time. That changed my mind quickly.
 

OIFMedic

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Antibiotics

This is why antibiotics must be included in preps. Especially now with infectious microbes like community-acquired MRSA (generally causes a nasty cellulitis which can cause the body to become septic in a short amount of time) becoming prevalent. Just imagine surviving through a SHTF scenario, only to die from an easily treatable infection.
 
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