BRKG Senate Leader McConnel Ready for Trump Impeachment hearings by Thanksgiving

[Doomer Doug]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mcconnell-get-ready-senate-impeachment-trial-soon-thanksgiving


McConnell: Get Ready For Senate Impeachment Trial 'As Soon As Thanksgiving'

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by Tyler Durden
Thu, 10/17/2019 - 13:50


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told Republican Senators on Wednesday to prepare for an impeachment trial of President Trump as soon as Thanksgiving, according to the Boston Globe.

The announcement comes as House Democrats roll the dice on a second-hand claim from a CIA 'whistleblower' that President Trump pressured Ukraine's president to investigate former VP Joe Biden - who the whistleblower worked for - and Biden's son Hunter, who made $50,000 per month sitting on the board of a Ukrainian gas company his father helped when he pressured Ukraine's president to fire the prosecutor investigating its owner.

During a July 25 phone call, Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky to investigate a claim that a wealthy Ukrainian individual was involved in the alleged DNC server hack - and that Ukraine 'has the server', as well as corruption claims against the Bidens. While the Democrats are pointing to the request as inviting a foreign country to meddle in the 2020 election, the White House says they want to know what happened in 2016 - and is now claiming that the decision to withhold nearly $400 million in US military aid was linked to the request to investigate election meddling - not the Bidens.

Democrats are also investigating efforts by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and the US ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, to investigate Ukraine.



And while Trump will almost certainly be impeached by the Democrat-controlled House, the GOP-controlled Senate will be able to pick apart the entire affair.



In their closed-door weekly luncheon, McConnell gave a presentation about the impeachment process and fielded questions alongside his staff and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who was a manager for the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

Impeachment is the first step to remove a president, with the House voting on formal charges and the Senate holding a trial in which it either convicts or acquits him. -Boston Globe

"There’s sort of a planned expectation that it would be sometime around Thanksgiving, so you’d have basically Thanksgiving to Christmas — which would be wonderful because there’s no deadline in the world like the next break to motivate senators," said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND) following the meeting.

McConnell has previously said that if the House impeaches Trump, Senate rules would force him to begin a trial - one which could force the Bidens to testify.

Not only could Mr. Biden be forced to be in D.C. at a critical moment in the presidential campaign, but so could many of his chief rivals — the half-dozen senators also vying for Democrats’ presidential nomination, impeachment experts said.

For that matter, if the House chooses to impeach Mr. Trump on charges stemming from the special counsel’s Russia investigation, aides said it could open the door to witnesses such as fired FBI Agent Peter Strzok or even major figures from the Obama administration.

Mr. Trump could even be present for the entire spectacle. Experts said the Senate would have a hard time refusing him if he demanded to confront the witnesses against him. -Washington Times

NOTE: If all the Marxist Democrats can bring to the table is the Ukraine BS, Trump is golden.

However, Trump has, by his actions in Syria, added RINOS, Never Trumpers and neo cons to impeachment vote.

My read is the Marxist Democrats have 45, plus 2 Independent votes for Impeachment, The real question is how many RINOS etc will vote for impeachment and possibly get to the needed 67, or have Pence used to make Trump resign like Nixon in 1974.

Trump is in real danger of either being impeached or forced to resign, when you add in all the Republicans that hate him.

 

[Bubble Head]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mcconnell-get-ready-senate-impeachment-trial-soon-thanksgiving


McConnell: Get Ready For Senate Impeachment Trial 'As Soon As Thanksgiving'

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by Tyler Durden
Thu, 10/17/2019 - 13:50


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told Republican Senators on Wednesday to prepare for an impeachment trial of President Trump as soon as Thanksgiving, according to the Boston Globe.

The announcement comes as House Democrats roll the dice on a second-hand claim from a CIA 'whistleblower' that President Trump pressured Ukraine's president to investigate former VP Joe Biden - who the whistleblower worked for - and Biden's son Hunter, who made $50,000 per month sitting on the board of a Ukrainian gas company his father helped when he pressured Ukraine's president to fire the prosecutor investigating its owner.

During a July 25 phone call, Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky to investigate a claim that a wealthy Ukrainian individual was involved in the alleged DNC server hack - and that Ukraine 'has the server', as well as corruption claims against the Bidens. While the Democrats are pointing to the request as inviting a foreign country to meddle in the 2020 election, the White House says they want to know what happened in 2016 - and is now claiming that the decision to withhold nearly $400 million in US military aid was linked to the request to investigate election meddling - not the Bidens.

Democrats are also investigating efforts by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and the US ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, to investigate Ukraine.



And while Trump will almost certainly be impeached by the Democrat-controlled House, the GOP-controlled Senate will be able to pick apart the entire affair.



In their closed-door weekly luncheon, McConnell gave a presentation about the impeachment process and fielded questions alongside his staff and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who was a manager for the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

Impeachment is the first step to remove a president, with the House voting on formal charges and the Senate holding a trial in which it either convicts or acquits him. -Boston Globe

"There’s sort of a planned expectation that it would be sometime around Thanksgiving, so you’d have basically Thanksgiving to Christmas — which would be wonderful because there’s no deadline in the world like the next break to motivate senators," said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND) following the meeting.

McConnell has previously said that if the House impeaches Trump, Senate rules would force him to begin a trial - one which could force the Bidens to testify.

Not only could Mr. Biden be forced to be in D.C. at a critical moment in the presidential campaign, but so could many of his chief rivals — the half-dozen senators also vying for Democrats’ presidential nomination, impeachment experts said.

For that matter, if the House chooses to impeach Mr. Trump on charges stemming from the special counsel’s Russia investigation, aides said it could open the door to witnesses such as fired FBI Agent Peter Strzok or even major figures from the Obama administration.

Mr. Trump could even be present for the entire spectacle. Experts said the Senate would have a hard time refusing him if he demanded to confront the witnesses against him. -Washington Times

NOTE: If all the Marxist Democrats can bring to the table is the Ukraine BS, Trump is golden.

However, Trump has, by his actions in Syria, added RINOS, Never Trumpers and neo cons to impeachment vote.

My read is the Marxist Democrats have 45, plus 2 Independent votes for Impeachment, The real question is how many RINOS etc will vote for impeachment and possibly get to the needed 67, or have Pence used to make Trump resign like Nixon in 1974.

Trump is in real danger of either being impeached or forced to resign, when you add in all the Republicans that hate him.

I think the House still has to vote on the Impeachment rules. They are now just making it up as they go along.

If this clown act should reach the Senate President Trump has every right to be there and defend himself as well as his legal team. Great time to drain so more swamp.

 

[Richard]

Will you Americans please get a life and stop this impeachment crap and I promise we will stop this BREXIT crap in the UK, though I am not to blame in spite of what you may think.

 

[Doomer Doug]

This will be the third "impeachment," process I have personally lived through.

Nixon resigning in August of 1974, when I was active duty Regular Army.

Bubba Clinton's farce in 1998.

And now Trump's impeachment/resign this year, or early next.

I will say it again, people who think Trump will skate on this don't understand he is not going to be impeached for this Ukraine bs, but he is going down for Syria and the Kurdish genocide. The RINOS will vote to impeach and thus get the 67 needed, or else Pence will be offered instead,

 

[TheSearcher]

This will be the third "impeachment," process I have personally lived through.

Nixon resigning in August of 1974, when I was active duty Regular Army.

Bubba Clinton's farce in 1998.

And now Trump's impeachment/resign this year, or early next.

I will say it again, people who think Trump will skate on this don't understand he is not going to be impeached for this Ukraine bs, but he is going down for Syria and the Kurdish genocide. The RINOS will vote to impeach and thus get the 67 needed, or else Pence will be offered instead,

Honestly, why would he be impeached for repositioning troops around Syria? Because there is disagreement on the matter? Congress is not in charge of military strategy and deployment, that's the US military via orders ultimately approved by the President, in his capacity as CinC. Congress can declare war, and alternatively approve funding/nonfunding of military operations, that's it.

The President didn't issue illegal orders, or even order combat actions at all, other than area denial measures as we left bases behind. There is no high crime. Just high disagreement over his lawful orders. That's no more impeachable than the Ukraine bullshit.

Does this mean the House won't vote for an illegal, unjustified impeachment? Of course not. Does this mean that McConnell will refuse to hold the trial? Also, of course not. Anything can happen. I'd say it's a lot less likely than your lucky pearls are telling you, though. And if it goes to trial, the Dems are massively exposed.

 

[Richard]

I hold every single American responsible for Trump's impeachment crap, starting with the ludicrous claims that Trump colluded with Russia, this is such utter crap that I am surprised so many so called intelligent Americans have been involved. What the ****ing hell is going on in your political world.

 

[Dozdoats]

What the ****ing hell is going on in your political world.

Cowardly Repugnicans, insane one-trick pony Dhimmicrats and a president who doesn't know what to do with himself in the political arena- best I can tell, anyway.

And a population of which only about a quarter actually voted for Trump. Let's not overlook that.

 

[intothatgoodnight]

I hold every single American responsible for Trump's impeachment crap, starting with the ludicrous claims that Trump colluded with Russia, this is such utter crap that I am surprised so many so called intelligent Americans have been involved. What the ****ing hell is going on in your political world.

The usual - blackmail, bribes, power-mongering, well-funded marxist influences attempting to split the American culture into a thousand pieces, led by the middle-finger of the three-letter bunch and their judicial handjobmaidens, with the occasional threat/realization of Arkanside to spice things up for the evening fake news - the customary swill - nothing out of the ordinary.

Human progress at its finest.


intothegoodnight

 

[marsh]

McConnell and his wife are too cozy with china. Her family is big in china. I suspect he is dirty. Feinstein is dirty and likely Graham ( McCain was. Works was a big contributor to his institute.) Too many are corrupt and vulnerable to drainage of the swamp. We may see a show trial as the establishment surprisingly votes to take out trump.

 

[The Hammer]

For whatever it's worth, I heard Rush Limbaugh's theory that McConnell is trying to goad Pelosi into actually launching a formal impeachment vote, knowing she doesn't want the details picked apart in the Senate. She and Schiff would rather carry on this vague charade behind closed doors with the help of the media.

 

[naturallysweet]

There is no impeachment process. all we have is circuses. Pelosi can't get enough votes to even open the impeachment process!!!

 

[SmithJ]

Pelosi has little interest in voting to impeach quickly.

A long drawn out investigation suits her perfectly and is best for the Democrats.

 

[Thunderbird]

I hold every single American responsible for Trump's impeachment crap, starting with the ludicrous claims that Trump colluded with Russia, this is such utter crap that I am surprised so many so called intelligent Americans have been involved. What the ****ing hell is going on in your political world.

Corruption of the political class, republican and democrat. and the media.

 

[Cacheman]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/17/senate-republicans-are-not-at-all-worried-about-impeachment/


Senate Republicans Are Not At All Worried About Impeachment
7-9 minutes

October 17, 2019 9:06 PM ET

The Daily Caller spoke with over 10 Republican senators about the Democrats’ ongoing impeachment demands.
Not one Republican senator expressed concern that President Donald Trump would be impeached.
Many of the senators we spoke with continued to criticize Democrats for moving forward without sufficient factual evidence to make a case for impeachment.

Senate Republicans do not appear to be concerned about House Democrats’ ongoing efforts to impeach President Donald Trump, with many saying even if the House were to move forward with impeachment, that there is no way the Senate would vote to impeach the president.

The Daily Caller spoke with over ten GOP senators throughout the week, who all shared their views about House Democrats’ efforts to impeach the President. Not one senator was concerned about the impeachment process, saying they are most concerned about the Democrats’ ongoing attempts to impeach Trump based on no hard evidence.

“I have to tell you, I think the House is not going to send anything over because they’re refusing to take a vote,” Republican Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn told the Daily Caller. “What we have to realize is before Donald Trump was sworn in, they started on impeachment, that was in 2016. They tried again in 17, 18, 19, and The Mueller report,” Blackburn continued.

Republican Montana Sen. Steve Daines had a very similar message when asked by the Daily Caller about impeachment, saying “Democrats have been obsessed with impeachment since before President Trump was even sworn into office.”

Republican North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis told the Daily Caller that he is concerned, but only because there are no facts to push constantly for Trump’s impeachment. Tillis said nothing Democrats have on the President is enough to impeach him over.

“I’m more worried about the absence of facts to justify where they are to this point. Keep in mind they started the inquiry before they ever read the transcript. Two things that I’m aware of are the factual basis for the inquiry are the transcript and the whistleblower complaint, I think neither one of those rises to the level of activity that we see at this point,” Tillis said.

When asked if he thinks the Senate would vote to impeach Trump if the process continued to move forward, Tillis responded by saying, “very doubtful.” (RELATED: Impeachment Is Getting Harder For Democrats To Resist, Here’s What Those Close To Trump Are Saying About It)

“The majority can decide to do whatever they want to do over there. Whether they can make the case in the Senate, I’m not sure that would play well with the American people,” Republican North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr told the Daily Caller.

Republican Texas Senator Ted Cruz said “it won’t succeed,” when asked about the impeachment process. When asked if he thinks the Senate could vote to impeach Trump, Cruz responded by saying “nope,” before getting in an elevator in the Capitol. The senior Texas senator, Republican John Cornyn, told the Daily caller that the process is “a complete kangaroo court” adding that “it is ridiculous.”

“Not on the basis of what we’ve seen so far. It seems absurd that they would go there,” Republican Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy said to the Daily Caller when asked about House Democrats’ attempt to impeach Trump. (RELATED: Here Are The Democrats Not In Favor Of Impeachment)

“I’m expecting them to do something very soon. I think my Democratic friends are making a big, big mistake doing this behind closed doors and not letting the American people evaluate the evidence. But, that’s their business. But I think they’re making a big big mistake,” Republican Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy said to the Daily Caller.

“Well, I don’t blame the president for being upset about the process,” Kennedy continued. “Number one it’s not open. Number two, the minority senators don’t have any rights in terms of being able to call in their own witnesses. Number three, the president is not even being allowed to meet his accuser, the whistleblower. Number four, the president or his lawyers are not even being allowed to cross-examine the witnesses. Number five, the House hasn’t even taken a vote to launch an impeachment proceeding. Number six, it’s all being done behind closed doors. I mean, I don’t get it.”

Republican Florida Sen. Marco Rubio had a different tone when asked by the Daily Caller about impeachment. “I don’t worry about things I can’t control,” When asked if he thinks any senators would vote to impeach Trump, Rubio responded by saying, “that’s impossible to answer without trial. I mean, I would be prejudging a trial. If we reach that point, we will do our jobs,” he continued.

Republican Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski told the Daily Caller that she is confused about the way Democrats are going about impeachment.

“I’m not quite sure what the process is right now,” Murkowski said when asked if she was worried about the impeachment process. “That’s a hypothetical. That’s what I’m supposed to say to you guys when they ask things like that, you’re supposed to say, ‘I think that that’s a hypothetical and I shouldn’t engage in speculation,'” she continued, smiling.

Despite Pelosi’s early reluctance to push for impeachment, there are currently 228 Democrats who support impeachment or an impeachment inquiry. Pelosi has said she believes Trump is “goading” Democrats to impeach him because he thinks it will help him fire up his base.

The Republican National Committee (RNC) raised approximately $1 million dollars the day after Pelosi came out in favor of the impeachment of Trump for the first time after meeting with her caucus.

Democrats have continued to send congressional subpoenas to those close to Trump for documents related to the ongoing scandal regarding Trump’s phone call with the President of Ukraine and whether Trump asked him to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden in exchange for U.S. military aid to Ukraine. The House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs, and Oversight committees are all investigating Trump, his cabinet members, and closest allies.

Many of Pelosi’s Democratic colleagues previously pushed for impeaching Trump, including Democratic Texas Rep. Al Green, who broke with Pelosi when he vowed to force a vote to impeach Trump in late March. Green, who previously had several bills to impeach Trump overwhelmingly rejected by the House of Representatives, called for a third impeachment vote. Pelosi said impeachment was “just not worth it” in a March interview.

Pelosi said Tuesday she will not hold a full vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry, which Trump has continued to call for.

 

[TheSearcher]

I found this to be interesting for the discussion here:

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2019/10/impeachment/

The current crisis du jure is the cloud of impeachment and possible removal the President by impeachment. An impeachment requires articles to be drawn up in the House of Representatives, a trial in the Senate and a 2/3 supermajority to convict and remove from office. While the exact definition of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ is quite difficult to nail down, the impeachment process is deeply political and not analogous to a jury trial in any sense. The Republicans hold a six seat majority in the Senate, meaning you would need roughly half of the sitting Senators to defect for an impeachment to have its desired result. Without any inside the beltway knowledge, I see at least ten that are probable defectors. There are several more that would face the wrath of the electorate but are either in Class 1 (2018-2024) or Class 3 (2016-2022) and will likely have plenty of time to ride out the dip in polls. It is perhaps unlikely, but depending on the ‘opposition research’ obtained by warrantless surveillance of political opponents, ahem, happenstance from the likes of James Comey and John Brennan in the FBI and CIA, it would not be difficult to imagine a confluence of events that result in a successful impeachment. If the Executive Branch can be surveilled under color of law, it’s highly likely it is actively occurring to the Legislative and Judicial. So what are the implications of an impeachment successful or otherwise?

The most obvious implication would be that of a complete and utter destruction from even the most facile appearances of a federal system of government. Post-impeachment, the real source of power in D.C. would be those who control the intelligence agencies, or have access to privileged personal and metadata through corporate sources. The ability to cripple a political opponent or rival to your incumbency through the clearly apolitical and entirely innocent tools and legal privileges provided to federal intelligence agencies and law enforcement is exactly what was intended in the Constitution. It most certainly would never be abused or used to create the latchkey tyranny that Edward Snowden warned about. Once naked force is an acceptable form of politics, violence is but one small step away.

Another implication would be that the will of the people, according to existing federal law, was rejected. While I don’t give any philosophical credence to the idea of democracy or the federal form of government, I also realize it is exceptionally important to many people. A first world economy and the social norms we are used to are incredibly reliant on large amounts of social trust. We largely cooperate with law enforcement and government agencies. Most people aren’t fencing in their property or living with bars over their windows like Mexico City. What is the point of voting if the results can be rewritten? If the vote is no longer of any import, then what incentive is there to participate in the franchise? Trump may not have gotten the popular vote, but 50M voters represent a sizable population to completely disenfranchise. What exactly will those voters do when they arrive at the conclusion a handful of people 3,000 miles away have removed them entirely from the equation?

A Trump impeachment would, politically, be a watershed moment in US history. It would forever change the political and cultural landscape of the country. The implications of it would be felt for decades to come. The Republican Party would cease to exist as a national party and the turmoil would not stop in the political arena. Whether the American public would see this as an act of war against them and respond to it in kind, I do not know. Articles of impeachment are likely in the coming weeks or months, the efficacy of them remains to be seen. In either event, the political pressure to subvert the results of the 2016 election will not stop.

 

[Cacheman]

Pelosi has little interest in voting to impeach quickly.

A long drawn out investigation suits her perfectly and is best for the Democrats.

Pelosi will like to drag this on all the way to the next election if she can. She doesn't want this to go to the Senate for the trial (possibly exposing their misdeeds) and acquitting Trump. They have absolutely nothing to run on.

 

[Doomer Doug]

I pointed out the numbers involved here, which means Pelosi has the numbers in the US House to REFER AN INDICTMENT TO THE US SENATE. This is a done deal anytime they want to.

The other issue is once in the US Senate you have 45 Marxist Democrats, 2 "independents, and MULTIPLE RINOS WHO WILL VOTE TO IMPEACH, OR TO FORCE TRUMP OUT. You are all forgetting the 11 RINOS who voted to overturn Trump's border executive order.

Anybody here on Timebomb think ROMNEY, COLLINS, AND THE OTHER NINE WON'T VOTE TO IMPEACH?

Once Trump gets close to 58 or so impeachment votes, which he will get once the 47 Democrats/Independents and the 11 or so RINOS vote McConnell who DESPISES TRUMP may be able to get the rest needed for the 67 total.

 

[TheSearcher]

I pointed out the numbers involved here, which means Pelosi has the numbers in the US House to REFER AN INDICTMENT TO THE US SENATE. This is a done deal anytime they want to.

The other issue is once in the US Senate you have 45 Marxist Democrats, 2 "independents, and MULTIPLE RINOS WHO WILL VOTE TO IMPEACH, OR TO FORCE TRUMP OUT. You are all forgetting the 11 RINOS who voted to overturn Trump's border executive order.

Anybody here on Timebomb think ROMNEY, COLLINS, AND THE OTHER NINE WON'T VOTE TO IMPEACH?

Once Trump gets close to 58 or so impeachment votes, which he will get once the 47 Democrats/Independents and the 11 or so RINOS vote McConnell who DESPISES TRUMP may be able to get the rest needed for the 67 total.

They will have to vote for it in the House, which opens up the discovery process. Can your worst case happen? Certainly. There are a lot of blustery cowards in your "Demons 11" roster who would have to seriously weigh the value and potential of carnage to them. It's likely that many or even all of them will balk in the end.

 

[Dennis Olson]

ANY republican who votes to impeach, either in the house or senate, will have instantly ended their career.

 

[Macgyver]

And none if this stops trump from continuing to run for reelection. And a sham impeachment will almost certainty result in a reelection.

 

[TheSearcher]

ANY republican who votes to impeach, either in the house or senate, will have instantly ended their career.

Definitely. Even if they manage to survive any recall efforts (and there will be recall efforts) and stay in office for their remaining terms, they will probably be shunned in public, and get a burning bag of dog shit on their lawn every morning for the rest of their lives.

 

[Dennis Olson]

Unfortunately there are no recall provisions for national offices.

 

[Doomer Doug]

It is Trump's discovery phase that "they" should truly fear. On the other hand the venom against Trump hasn't been based on rational thought for at least the last several years.

You are not factoring in how truly Romney et all hate Trump. Susan Collins from Maine will definitely vote for impeachment or she will be voted down in increasingly blue state Maine.

The final thing is if you have the 47 independents and Democrats Trump is neutered in terms of passing anything in the Senate because the "gang of four," will give the Democrats a total of 51 to 49, every time.

 

[TheSearcher]

Unfortunately there are no recall provisions for national offices.

I was being polite, perhaps I should have used scare quotes.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

As was suggested here a while back, I watched Glenn Beck succinctly and thoroughly break down what happened in Ukraine. While I was aware of many things, he put it all together in such a sensible way that I shared it with someone and it opened their eyes.
In fact, they wanted more.
If they formally impeach Trump, it will all have to come out and folks it is DIRTY! The Obama/Clinton/DNC corruption is demonstrably clear. I honestly don’t know how this will all turn out, but this level shit is so far beyond the pale........

 

[TheSearcher]

It is Trump's discovery phase that "they" should truly fear. On the other hand the venom against Trump hasn't been based on rational thought for at least the last several years.

You are not factoring in how truly Romney et all hate Trump. Susan Collins from Maine will definitely vote for impeachment or she will be voted down in increasingly blue state Maine.

The final thing is if you have the 47 independents and Democrats Trump is neutered in terms of passing anything in the Senate because the "gang of four," will give the Democrats a total of 51 to 49, every time.

Romney in particular is famous for saying one thing, then voting another. Back in January, he said on Twitter:

“Mr. President, Sir, I am going to vote for every single one of your bills ― but I WILL be frowning.”

I think you're right about Collins, but she basically has zero competition for her job, last I saw. The rest? They will think twice, probably thrice, and many will weigh Dem condemnation over unemployment and find it in them not to convict.

 

[Dennis Olson]

I stand by my career ended statement. However, I should add “as a Republican”. They would have to run as Dems from that point on.

 

[Cacheman]

She admits it’s not really about Ukraine or Russia, it’s about the election, why wouldn’t she want to let the voters decide? Elections are an inconvenience that get in the way, soon expect to hear how we'd all be better off without elections.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Pelosi has little interest in voting to impeach quickly.

A long drawn out investigation suits her perfectly and is best for the Democrats.

I'm not so sure. If this process goes on and on, it's not only going to keep a lot of the Dems from being able to campaign as they'll be in hearings, but also, once it gets to the Senate, the Senate will be able to start issuing its own subpoenas. Like for Hillary. And Obama. And most of the swamp. And all of it right at election time.

It won't be enough to sway the Sky Screamers, of course, but the undecided voter might think twice about punching Dem tickets if a real Parade of Scum gets started.

 

[Dobbin]

For whatever it's worth, I heard Rush Limbaugh's theory that McConnell is trying to goad Pelosi into actually launching a formal impeachment vote, knowing she doesn't want the details picked apart in the Senate. She and Schiff would rather carry on this vague charade behind closed doors with the help of the media.

This sounds plausible. It may be McConnell is simply doing a "put up or shut up" move on Pelosi. So in a way McConnell is doing his part for the party.

Truthfully, I don't think the House WILL go to Impeachment formally - they'll just continue the sound bites ad-infinium - and hope the MEEDIA will continue to do their part.

Not that either are all that effective. Media gets proven FAKE almost daily, and the House continues ineffective at solving REAL problems while they have delusions of Impeachment.

Dobbin