Seedlings - Now What?

Amazed

Does too have a life!
I've never had much luck getting a seedling to produce an actual plant but I'm trying to learn.

A couple of week ago I planted several different seeds in one of those kits with the little plastic containers and the plastic cover. A lot of them are up and look ready to move on to the next step. However the soil has got a lot of green on top even though I followed the directions to the letter. :shk:

Anyway I guess I'm now supposed to transplant these seedlings to a different and bigger vessel. How do you do that without destroying the fragile seedling? And do you just plant it in potting soil in those little brown cuppy things? And what about the green stuff. I've left the lid off the seedlings for over a week but I guess the damage is done. :shr:

Help!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Amazed... if the plants themselves look healthy, don't worry about the mold/whatever on the soil. Those little "mini greenhouses" are horrible... there just isn't enough air circulation in there.

In general, I only plant 2-3 seeds in each "compartment" and then, when transplanting (although I plant in much larger planters, so they don't need transplanting early), I don't worry about trying to save each plant. If two of them are far enough apart that they can be separated without breaking off or damaging the roots, great-... I get two plants. If not... I transplant the whole soil block, and snip off the weaker plants, leaving one.

The best way to transplant is to carefully "pop out" the entire soil block- usually pressing up on the bottom of the container will do it. DON'T pull on the plants, or if you absolutely have to, don't use the stems... handle them by the leaves. The stems contain their "blood vessels", so to speak... if you crush them, you kill the plant. If you break off a leaf, providing there's at least a little bit of at least one leaf left, the plant will probably survive just fine.

I don't use peat pots (is that what you mean by "brown cuppy things"? LOL!) because they dry out SO easily. And, while you can transplant the entire peat pot into the garden, if you don't bury every bit of it, the part which is above ground will "wick" the moisture out and often the plant dies. They also can sort of "trap" the roots.

If you want "cheap", use something like dixie cups... punch a few holes in the bottom, put them in a tray of some sort (cheap aluminum foil baking pans work well). Use a good potting soil (or "soiless mix"). Put an inch or so in the bottom, (depending on how much soil comes with the root ball when you move the seedling). Place the seedling in the cup, gently holding it at the level you want it, and carefully scoop soil in until it's completely filled around the roots. You don't want air pockets... gently firm it around (press down around the roots with your fingertips). Water well (this is why you put holes around the bottom of the cup... so excess water drains out) and put them in bright light or sun.

A fan blowing on them will help prevent damping off (from any bad fungus you may have in that "green stuff")

If you have several seedlings in a single container, and you want to save as many as possible, then you need to use something- a paring knife, or small metal spatula can work, or a baby spoon- to gently scoop them out of the soil. In that case, fill your Dixie cups or whatever to within 1/2" of the top with potting soil, and use your finger to make a hole in the middle, about as deep as your root systems are long. GENTLY dangle the bare roots of the seedling into the hole (you want them to go straight down if possible, not be curled up) and then press the soil around it.

Give them a couple of days before you worry overly much about how they look, although young seedlings generally don't show much transplant shock.

Don't fertilize if you're using a good commercial potting soil... most of them contain enough fertilizer to last the seedlings at least 3-4 weeks. After that, you can use a DILUTE solution of Miracle Gro or one of the organic versions.

If I missed something, or confused you, let me know!

Summerthyme
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
Thanks Summerthyme. I won't use those peat pots then. I only have a few so it's no big loss. So far they actually look pretty good. There has been a fan blowing in the room where they are. I protected them from it some. Maybe that's why, for the first time, they haven't rotted off at the stem.

If I plant them in Miracle Grow potting soil but transplant them outside in organic soil and fertilize with organic fertilizer, are they considered organic?
 

summerthyme

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If I plant them in Miracle Grow potting soil but transplant them outside in organic soil and fertilize with organic fertilizer, are they considered organic?

Legally? Who knows! Probably not... but then, were they certified organic seeds to start with?

Technically, I personally wouldn't worry about the micro amounts of "chemicals" in miracle gro potting soil, but that's just me. You could go with an "organic" potting soil (I'm sure they sell them... probably more expensive, but I can't say for sure) and then fertilize with compost tea or an organic fertilizer. They don't need *much* fertilizer at the seedling stage, but they do need some nutrients.

(I'm not really "into" Miracle gro as a brand name, but their potting soil is a very nice lightweight blend for seed starting and seedlings. Some others I've tried have been too coarse or too heavy, and just didn't grow plants as well. Plus, our options are sort of limited... we don't have a lot of "garden" stores around)

Summerthyme
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
I'm not worried either, Summerthyme. I was just curious how "far" some people go to feel it's truly organic. I read a cartoon the other day where 2 cave men were talking about how they ate everything pure, no air pollution, no vaccines etc but somehow they just never seemed to live past 30. :lol:
 

Cimbri

Contributing Member
They call it ORGANIC COMPOST !!! That is what comes out
of the sewer's sistem after it is separeted from the liquids!
I do not remember if the liquid is treated with chlorine or
sterilized by some other method. We live in the county area
and have a septic system. The city nearby, after the sewer
products are processed, hey sell the solids as ORGANIC COMPOST
and the liquid as GREY WATER to irrigate the golf course.
Some cities process the liquid for drinking water !!!
I always check composistion of the planting mix before buyng.
But last year my son bought some planting mix without reading
the description on the bag: it had the drawing of the treatment
system from a large NW city, and they called it ORGANIC
COMPOST. It is organic, allright, but...........I would not want
to grow our vegetables fed by someone else's hormones,
brain's pills, viagra and what not.......
Keep well,
Cimbri
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
Just an update - and to thank summerthyme. I have successfully transplanted most of my seedlings and I didn't lose a one to stem rot. :eleph:

I also planted my first square foot box with the early crops - peas, onions, beets, lettuce, swiss chard and spinach. It's rained a lot for 2 straight days so I hope the drain holes work!
 
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