LEGAL SCOTUS TO THE RESCUE?

[WTSR]

I have my issues with INVAR also. Still, I will wait till the 14th and next year also before I throw in the towel. After that, he can join me in my foxhole.

The only power people have to non-violently resist of any measure is to stop paying all taxes. This of course will bring wrath upon you.

And in my experience if you won't even do that, then you will do nothing.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

I suppose that remains to be seen.

Have it your way then.

 

[danielboon]

"Then they shall deliver you over to be persecuted and killed and you will be hated of all nations for My Name's sake... and because lawlessness shall abound and prosper, the love of most will grow cold, but he who endures to the end will be saved".

Amen

 

[mecoastie]

Explain that path, please.

My understanding is that on 20Jan Trumps time as president ends. If there is no winner and no one sworn in for the next term the presidency falls to the Speaker of the House until a new president is sworn in.

 

[Profit of Doom]

My understanding is that on 20Jan Trumps time as president ends. If there is no winner and no one sworn in for the next term the presidency falls to the Speaker of the House until a new president is sworn in.

I believe that if there cannot be 270 or more for anyone, it falls immediately to the House to select the President.
Notice that each state gets only one vote, determined by its majority party in that state. Trump has the lead there.

 

[TheSearcher]

If you cannot handle hearing the truth, then put me on ignore then.

I missed you greatly around here, and am still glad you're back. However, I think it's the constant drumbeat of the same message that is bugging people. It's like maybe Dennis has one of his bread machine threads and I expect you to pop in and say:

"You are complacent and doomed. Italian loaf will not save you!"

 

[mecoastie]

I believe that if there cannot be 270 or more for anyone, it falls immediately to the House to select the President.
Notice that each state gets only one vote, determined by its majority party in that state. Trump has the lead there.

It does which would lead to a new president being sworn in on 20Jan. IIRC my comment was to someone who said that we need a new election and in jest he felt it shouldnt happen until 2024. That was what my comment to Pelosi being president was based on. It is not a realistic scenario but in that case if a new election was to happen after 20Jan2021 the Speaker of the House would be President from then until a new president as sworn in.

 

[INVAR]

The only power people have to non-violently resist of any measure is to stop paying all taxes. This of course will bring wrath upon you.

And in my experience if you won't even do that, then you will do nothing.

That there, is something we can and we must do. Because it is precedent that our patriarchs did so - and brought down the wrath of the Crown upon them.

Let them demonstrate that they are willing to confiscate property by force as we declare taxation without representation due to their wholesale corrupted electoral system.

And expect they are going to do just that. And then, when they come to impose their will - we must follow precedent and fulfill what Jefferson himself thought we could not pass twenty years without the need for.

 

[wvstuck]

I agree, and I contend that that's the reason nobody's taking meaningful action. They just plain don't know what to do.

We know what to do... but arguing with INVAR every time he posts is not helping anything. He is speaking the truth and a lot of folks here completely agree with him. If someone has to post battle plans on a publicly viewed forum then we are all way past screwed. For instance, I’m not in your A.O., my plans are way different than yours, we already know what we are doing down here.

Holding on to hope when the evidence is so strong against anyone from the government stepping in to help is a bad plan at this point, maybe something changes but until evidence appears that supports arrests and courts ruling in favor of Trump, give up on that so you can get yourself focused on what’s coming.

 

[INVAR]

I think it's the constant drumbeat of the same message that is bugging people.

As opposed to the constant drumbeat that Trump and the courts or SCOTUS or these lawsuits and sealed indictments are going to save us from where we have already been taken?

If people are bugged by a drumbeat of 'wake up! no one is coming to save you!' 'Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand' then why are they on a prep and current events board? A bizarre comfort perhaps that other people are preparing for our way of life to go bye bye while they hope for things to go back to 'normal'??

 

[WTSR]

You have to clearly define your greivences just like our founding fathers did with the declaration of independence. if you don't then you will look just like a crazy criminal they will paint you as

Taxation without Representation was a cornerstone of the rebellion that people could relate to.

 

[WTSR]

One other thing, you all must realize whether you like it or not you are living in one of the most controlled societies in the history of the world.

Everything you do is monitored and recorded, and they can take from you what ever they wish when they want.

All commerce and banking is under control and all communication is monitored as well.

They have passed so many laws that no one person knows them.

All we had that set us apart from all other peoples was our Constitution, without that we have nothing.

 

[Sicario]

Everything you do is monitored and recorded, and they can take from you what ever they wish when they want.

Everything you said is true, except they can't take anything from the man who has nothing left to lose.

 

[WTSR]

Everything you said is true, except they can't take anything from the man who has nothing left to lose.

Unfortunately by that time you are a broken person, unable to function logically and effectively, I have seen men like that and they cave in on themselves.

I guess it depends on your definition of nothing to lose, locked in a federal holding cell in some city , your not going to do much.

 

[Hacker]

Here's what I know. It's time for a gut check, and that's what I'm doing. Peering inside of myself and seeing what I'm willing, able, and ready to do.

Beyond that, I'm waiting, watching, and preparing. I'm a patient sort when I need to be; and at this moment, it's time to prepare and be patient. At least, that's my perspective.

And by the way, I live in a county that's very well prepped. And they don't say much - they too are watching to see how things unfold.

If anything, I think INVAR doesn't understand the nature of the freedom movement in this country. He doesn't understand the scope, the scale, nor the resolve of what we call the remnant. Hopefully, Soros and his ilk won't grasp it either.

JMHO...

 

[TheSearcher]

As opposed to the constant drumbeat that Trump and the courts or SCOTUS or these lawsuits and sealed indictments are going to save us from where we have already been taken?

If people are bugged by a drumbeat of 'wake up! no one is coming to save you!' 'Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand' then why are they on a prep and current events board? A bizarre comfort perhaps that other people are preparing for our way of life to go bye bye while they hope for things to go back to 'normal'??

I get it. And what you're trying to do is get those who don't get it to get it. After a while, though, people start to throw up their hands and say "Yeah, we heard you" and then metaphorically walk away. Of course, that's on them.

As far as a this being a prep board, well, yeah. You are quite literally preaching to the choir. It's like someone coming to your door and telling you (of all people) that you need Jesus. This first time they knock, you're going to be polite right? You might even try to engage in a talk of the Gospels. The tenth time they come banging with the same message, you're ready to scream.

 

[Cyclonemom]

I believe that if there cannot be 270 or more for anyone, it falls immediately to the House to select the President.
Notice that each state gets only one vote, determined by its majority party in that state. Trump has the lead there.

Majority party of what entity?

Governor?
State Assembly/House?
State Senate?
Other?

 

[thompson]

he's wasting bandwidth and his breath.

 

[Cyclonemom]

And to the other side discussion. We should WELCOME the differing opinions amongst us.

Otherwise, we turn into an echo chamber worthy of the Demoncrats.

 

[night driver]

Majority party of what entity?

Governor?
State Assembly/House?
State Senate?
Other?

House of Representatives Delegation.

 

[INVAR]

He doesn't understand the scope, the scale, nor the resolve of what we call the remnant.

I have yet to see the fruits of the freedom movement beyond political flag waving and road rallies.

Thusfar, those poor souls steered into BLM gauntlets and stupid enough to engage ANTIFA on Portland and Seattle streets have not impressed me into comprehending the scope, scale or resolve of that which you refer.

 

[danielboon]

As opposed to the constant drumbeat that Trump and the courts or SCOTUS or these lawsuits and sealed indictments are going to save us from where we have already been taken?

If people are bugged by a drumbeat of 'wake up! no one is coming to save you!' 'Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand' then why are they on a prep and current events board? A bizarre comfort perhaps that other people are preparing for our way of life to go bye bye while they hope for things to go back to 'normal'??

And that is what a watchman does sound the alarm because the time is short

 

[Cabal]

That there, is something we can and we must do. Because it is precedent that our patriarchs did so - and brought down the wrath of the Crown upon them.

Let them demonstrate that they are willing to confiscate property by force as we declare taxation without representation due to their wholesale corrupted electoral system.

And expect they are going to do just that. And then, when they come to impose their will - we must follow precedent and fulfill what Jefferson himself thought we could not pass twenty years without the need for.

Why wait and let them snag us one by one? I'm tired of all the ****ing waiting and hopes and prayers. I am seriously getting more angry by the day the longer this shit drags on and we sit on our collective asses and allow them to do to us whatever they damned well please. When is enough going to be enough? When do we drop the Trump 2020 flags and start picking up battle flags?

 

[Raggedyman]

the current difficulty regarding "what do we do" exists because we sit between phase 2 and phase 3 of this "struggle" . . . where ROL "sort of" exists - but it exists for us only. as such we are relegated to defensive options alone. when things get to phase 3 that will change.

therein lies the reason for this:

I have yet to see the fruits of the freedom movement beyond political flag waving and road rallies.

Thusfar, those poor souls steered into BLM gauntlets and stupid enough to engage ANTIFA on Portland and Seattle streets have not impressed me into comprehending the scope, scale or resolve of that which you refer.

 

[Cabal]

Majority party of what entity?

Governor?
State Assembly/House?
State Senate?
Other?

House votes for the President 1 vote per State based on the majority
Senate votes for the VP, 1 vote per State based on the majority

 

[Hacker]

I have yet to see the fruits of the freedom movement beyond political flag waving and road rallies.

Thusfar, those poor souls steered into BLM gauntlets and stupid enough to engage ANTIFA on Portland and Seattle streets have not impressed me into comprehending the scope, scale or resolve of that which you refer.

That's because you haven't seen it.

 

[INVAR]

That's because you haven't seen it.

I haven't seen the so-called "secret and sealed indictments" Durham and Barr were supposed to unleash on the Deep State coup orchestrators either.

I am certainly glad I put no faith or stock in the claims, having seen no evidence or proof they existed beyond fantasy.

I certainly hope I am dead wrong on your claim.

For all our sakes.

 

[Jonas Parker]

SCOTUS is not coming to the rescue.

Sorry folks - we are on our own.

I will be shocked clear out of both socks and boots if SCOTUS actually involved itself and rules against a blatant coup and hijack.

Not that the Coup cabal is going to listen to anything SCOTUS rules that they disagree with anyway.

And you know this how, Invar? Your tarot cards? Crystal ball? The entrails of the chicken you had last night for dinner? You have a tendency to make definitive statements about future events without either corroboration or facts. What's your secret? There are a bunch of folks on this board with intel backgrounds, and none of them are so certain as to post their opinions as facts...

 

[wintery_storm]

The only power people have to non-violently resist of any measure is to stop paying all taxes. This of course will bring wrath upon you.

And in my experience if you won't even do that, then you will do nothing.

I do not believe not paying Taxes is the answer.
Conservatives may have to change there train of protest. Waving flags is not getting their attention.
They have shown that the Voting system is manipulated. Our votes mean Nothing.
Laws mean nothing, the Constitution means nothing to the faux elected.
Which means this is not America anymore.
74 million People need to go to their County Seat on the streets in every state and let it be known We the People are owners of this Country not the cheating fake elected Politicians that seat and hide in their offices.
One protest is not going to do it. Multiple ones, weekly,Monthly. It can't stop.
Trump was our Only Hope and now we should dtand up for him with Protest Rallies.

 

[INVAR]

And you know this how, Invar? Your tarot cards? Crystal ball? The entrails of the chicken you had last night for dinner? You have a tendency to make definitive statements about future events without either corroboration or facts. What's your secret?

It's called discernment based on observing recent actions, comments and trends by every single authority involved or legally optioned to be involved in this fiasco.

There are no fruits to give me pause to think other than what I stated.

I hope I am wrong. For all our sakes.

If I am not - woe to us.

 

[INVAR]

I do not believe not paying Taxes is the answer.

Then by all means, keep funding the beast that has made it's intention to impoverish you, re-edcuate you and reallocate your wealth from you. Hand them more of that rope to hang you with.

You cannot stop the lawless via civil means. Protests are pointless at this stage forward. The overlords refuse to hear us and hold us in contempt and hatred. We are wasting our time pleading with them given what they have said they intend to do.

 

[auxman]

NO ONE on this board can prognosticate what is ultimately going to happen at this time. Let Trump do what he does best... the endgame will be determined by him. Everyone here, including myself, should trust God and let this play out. I still have hope that his God-given ruthlessness will manifest itself to the enemy before this is said and done.

 

[night driver]

SUPERB word choice.

Ruthlessness.

He didn't rub shoulders with "Made Guys" and compete with them, AND make work deals with them by being a good imitation of Casper Milquetoast.
he stood up. he stood up ENOUGH to gain their respect...grudging as one would expect, but still functional respect.

NYC glitterati? Same thing. he stood up to them and earned (again GRUDGING respect.)

And some fear, because he IS ruthless.

 

[59 MGk.]

As we each walk on our paths, we shall see things differently. Many of us will be upon the same path ,after this game proceeds. I look forward to seeing all my friends here at a later date.

 

[CaryC]

74 million People need to go to their County Seat on the streets in every state and let it be known We the People are owners of this Country not the cheating fake elected Politicians that seat and hide in their offices.

Just as a note here:

That is happening to a certain extent in the public hearings as broadcast on OAN, and no other channel. There have been whistle blowers, public hearings, and public testimony. The black lady with blond hair who worked for 29 years in the SOS office in Michigan was awesome.

This has been happening in 4-5 states (?) those hearings make it clear that the legislature of each state has the authority to overturn/cancel/de-certify the election and appoint electors to the EC to vote for Trump. No SCOTUS needed.

The house in each of those states are Rep. held.

Now here is the crux of the matter - Will they? They can, the evidence was given to them. BUT WILL THEY OVERTURN THE ELECTION IN THEIR STATE? Doing that will give the Presidency to Trump.

What do you think? Will they?

Personally, and I really, really hope I am wrong, I think they will kick the can down the road to the .......next election, or the next, or the next.

 

[Jonas Parker]

Personally, and I really, really hope I am wrong, I think they will kick the can down the road to the .......next election, or the next, or the next.

I think (though the politicians may not have realized it yet) that there's no more road to kick the can down. Folks here are really PO'd!

 

[Hognutz]

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I missed you greatly around here, and am still glad you're back. However, I think it's the constant drumbeat of the same message that is bugging people. It's like maybe Dennis has one of his bread machine threads and I expect you to pop in and say:

"You are complacent and doomed. Italian loaf will not save you!"

BEWILDERMENT IS COMING TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT SESAME SEEDS AND FLOUR WILL SAVE THEM!

 

[INVAR]

BEWILDERMENT IS COMING TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT SESAME SEEDS AND FLOUR WILL SAVE THEM!

Exactly! Without oil/water/milk and yeast, you got no bread! You just got dusty sesame seeds!

 

[Intestinal Fortitude]

BEWILDERMENT IS COMING TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT SESAME SEEDS AND FLOUR WILL SAVE THEM!

damned hippies!