CHAT Scorpions

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
We bought a house at the beginning of the year and found out there’s scorpions here. I’ve never dealt with them before and they give me the creeps!

I bought a black light to easily find them (they glow bright white). I’m so paranoid about stepping on one in the dark that I keep the black light by the bed to use when I go to the restroom in the middle of the night.

I went to change a bulb that went out and found these guys

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Now I have the heebie-geebies all over again picturing them falling from the ceiling!

We sprayed the perimeter of the house but are still seeing them. Do any of you get these demon bugs?
 

Mac

Veteran Member
They rocked back in the 80's though!!! ;)
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Just Plain Mom

Alien Lizard Person
Ugh. When we bought the house we currently live in, 15 years ago, it had been empty for a little while. The first night we went out to get dinner (because we had no refrigerator yet), and when we got home, we opened the front door onto the stairs and there was a small legion of scorpions coming down the stairs. Ugh.

That night, my middle child was stung by a scorpion in two places. He began to yell and his older brother grabbed a short 1"x2" and smashed it against the white carpet. The stain is still there (a testimony to his quick thinking, he says), and we still have the stick, which was named "the scorpion killer." And we still use it.

We don't see them frequently any more. The kids, however, do when they come home to visit. My daughter keeps a box by the bed, and catches them. In the morning, she brings the box downstairs, shaking it. She plops the scorpion out, and it's angry at being shaken so it turns to attack (rather than run away), and she takes care of business.

I do, however, turn on the light in the bathroom when I get up in the middle of the night, and, shielding my eyes against the brightness, check the ceiling. Especially when the weather is getting hot out, and they want to come in. Ugh!
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
We used to have those giant desert scorpions at my high desert cabin. In fact a photo of mine made the local paper.
I first found out about them when I went to use my outhouse and one came up out of the hole. Not funny ! Scared the you know what out of me. Good thing I was able to move fast in those days.
No way could I stay in your house. Be sure and check the sheets when you go to bed and shake your shoes.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Been in my house about 6 years. See one every now and then.
Sweetie got stung by one couple weeks ago. She was almost unphased by it. Hurt for a day.
Next time I see one gonna let it sting me.

Not much will kill one other than kinetic. Put DE and boric acid to kill off their food source. Fix leaky pipes.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
We bought a house at the beginning of the year and found out there’s scorpions here. I’ve never dealt with them before and they give me the creeps!

I bought a black light to easily find them (they glow bright white). I’m so paranoid about stepping on one in the dark that I keep the black light by the bed to use when I go to the restroom in the middle of the night.

I went to change a bulb that went out and found these guys

Now I have the heebie-geebies all over again picturing them falling from the ceiling!

We sprayed the perimeter of the house but are still seeing them. Do any of you get these demon bugs?


They like to crawl into boots and shoes and hide out. Cowboys in S. Texas ALWAYS check their boots before putting them on.
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
We don't see them frequently any more. The kids, however, do when they come home to visit. My daughter keeps a box by the bed, and catches them. In the morning, she brings the box downstairs, shaking it. She plops the scorpion out, and it's angry at being shaken so it turns to attack (rather than run away), and she takes care of business.

I need to grow a pair like your daughter! There aren’t any bugs in the house to feed on. The first one I saw was in the shower circling the drain, striking it’s tail wildly! Completely caught me off guard!
 

jward

passin' thru
I told a fella camping would involve him waking up to clear the outhouse of those devil spawn any time I had need of it..
..He probably thought I was being fanciful- lil does he know <evil grin>

If you can't arrange for armed guard with a big boom-boom, consider chickens, pest control services, or sleepin army style
(in your boots)
Best o' luck!
 

Just Plain Mom

Alien Lizard Person
Yes, we’re in South Texas so I know to check all shoes, coats, bed sheets, linen closet, laundry hamper, etc. I learned that from living with brown recluse.
So do we. Perhaps all of my scorpions went to your house (at least, the ones who escaped my daughter)?

I've been bitten by a brown recluse, but it wasn't in Texas. Lol, a black widow, too. Geez, I must be a magnet!
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
Had a bad infestation of them in my second home in Texas. Just like your place, they were even up in the light fixture globes and one night one dropped down onto the bathroom counter! UGG!!!

Squishing them with a shoe works well. There's a scorpion spray that shoots a good distance like wasp spray that works too for the ones up high. You're going to want to check your door and window seals to make sure they're all in good shape (without gaps), then have a pest control service come treat inside (including your attic space and garage) and outside. You can also get a pesticide product called "Demon" from Tractor Supply to use to treat the perimeter of your house. That works very well. Planting lavender in shrub beds around your house is a good deterrent as well.
 

lakemom

Veteran Member
There's not too many things that turn me into a "girl," but scorpions are one of them. Little, freaking aliens is what they are. We had them in a house I lived in out in the country. Check under the sheets/pillows, inside of shoes, the shower curtain (they liked to get between the liner and curtain), etc. Shake out any clothing before you put it on.

One night DD was sitting on the couch and felt a tickle. The next thing I know, she's hollering, "Ow!" I started checking and one of the damned things was inside the hood of her hoodie. :eek: That started me also checking couch cushions before I sat down.

Totally different house, but DSIL had one drop from the ceiling on him one night while he was sleeping. No. Just, no.

You don't have to worry about it after "bug season" when it gets cold outside, but during the warmer weather or when the weather starts turning, they will dang sure come inside.

Stupid, little, freaking aliens! :lol:
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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I used to live in a run down mobile that was infested. I got into the habit then of using only white sheets and pillow cases so I could spot them quickly before getting into bed at night.
The house I'm in now had one every now and then, but fogging the house took care of that problem.
 

Mushroom

Opinionated Granny
When we lived in Arizona, the rangers at one of the lakes said they kept cats because they were immune to the venom and would kill them. Not sure if it true or not but worth a try.
 

TxGal

Day by day
I just hate those darn things, I called them alien bugs when we lived in San Antonio. I used to smash them with a brick, but they're sometimes hard to kill. Easy kill - get a kinda long handled pair of scissors, and just snip them in half. Then smash them with a brick because you can, while yelling 'Die, die, die!'

We didn't get them too often, just enough to creep me out, but I really hated hearing the little click, click click of them walking on the bathroom floor in the middle of the night. Sure beats stepping on one, though.
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
You can also get a pesticide product called "Demon" from Tractor Supply to use to treat the perimeter of your house. That works very well. Planting lavender in shrub beds around your house is a good deterrent as well.
We sprayed Demon around the perimeter. It says you can spray inside but I don’t like spraying poison all over the inside of the house. I’m not crazy about lavender but would rather have a ring of it around the house if it helps at all!
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
When we lived in Arizona, the rangers at one of the lakes said they kept cats because they were immune to the venom and would kill them. Not sure if it true or not but worth a try.

A stray cat adopted us and now that I think about it, I haven’t seen any since I started feeding him the end of June. I don’t know how long the ones in the light fixture were there.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Yes, we’re in South Texas so I know to check all shoes, coats, bed sheets, linen closet, laundry hamper, etc. I learned that from living with brown recluse.

Speaking of which... it's that time of year. I've seen three people with nasty recluse bites this week! All on their arm... all put on a jacket which had been hanging unused in a shop or barn since last Spring. SHAKE STUFF OUT before putting it on, especially if it's been hanging in a low traffic area for awhile!

Personally, I run around and gather up all the barn jackets, etc when we're headed for our first frost and run them all through the washer and drier. Fewer nasty surprises...

Summerthyme
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Been in my house about 6 years. See one every now and then.
Sweetie got stung by one couple weeks ago. She was almost unphased by it. Hurt for a day.
Next time I see one gonna let it sting me.

Not much will kill one other than kinetic. Put DE and boric acid to kill off their food source. Fix leaky pipes.



Trim your bushes, pull the mulch back from your foundation at least 12 inches, crawl spaces get a vapor barrier and gravel on top (check local state Ag. specs for more info), clean up flower beds and whatnot. After all that call an exterminator and have them come out and get a Termidor treatment (good for termites), but is also good for bugs and in the state of GA can be sprayed at a home 2x a year for pest control. The termite treatment should be good for at least 5 years (with yearly inspection) and to be totally forthcoming, I won't buy a home that has NOT been Termidor treated. Is it expensive? Yes but you can do most of the work yourself. Worth every penny.

Also, make sure that your house is well sealed to the outside. Cracks in foundations and driveways, brick, under siding things like that. Make sure that your weather stripping is in good working order. That kind of thing. Thing is you can do all this and they will still march in your house. Usually looking for water.

Please make sure to check with your state Agriculture dept. for the rules and regs on using this chemical.

And this is the lesson for Integrated Pest Management 101.

LOL. A Biologist that owned a pest control company. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When we lived in Arizona, the rangers at one of the lakes said they kept cats because they were immune to the venom and would kill them. Not sure if it true or not but worth a try.
Really ? If true, then if I lived in scorpion territory, I would have many, many cats. Wonder if chickens will kill them ?
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
I need to grow a pair like your daughter! There aren’t any bugs in the house to feed on. The first one I saw was in the shower circling the drain, striking it’s tail wildly! Completely caught me off guard!


looking for water and a place to bed down for the winder. They are in your pipes or coming from an exterior hole or crack and running your pipes.

Sorry your going through this. :( It can be quite unsettling.
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, and if it runs under the bed or couch in its death throes, bye bye house, as well!

Summerthyme
Well, you cannot just light it up, then go on and ignore it. Have to finish it off, put out the flames.

When I was a kid, we lived in an old house, really infested with wasps. Use to kill them all the time that way. Once lit up, they were done.
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
DE is the answer for me. I treat the entire perimeter of my house. Sure it looks like I’m a cocaine dealer, but none of the buggers make it in!!

would be best to treat the inside perimeter of your house as well. Kind of a double shield and if you dont have kids or pets to bother it would be effective. Better safe than sorry tho...
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Speaking of which... it's that time of year. I've seen three people with nasty recluse bites this week! All on their arm... all put on a jacket which had been hanging unused in a shop or barn since last Spring. SHAKE STUFF OUT before putting it on, especially if it's been hanging in a low traffic area for awhile!

Personally, I run around and gather up all the barn jackets, etc when we're headed for our first frost and run them all through the washer and drier. Fewer nasty surprises...

Summerthyme

My DS and his Girlfriend have both been bitten this past summer by recluse bites. nasty business...

I ripped apart our basement, deep cleaned, went outside to see what was up and found a hole in my vapor barrier. Yahtzee! little bit more plastic, couple wheelbarrows of crushed rock, and some spray and we are good to go.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
So I'm sitting here thinking, "Wall, we ain't got them thangs HERE." But as usual I checked. Oops.
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Scorpions in North Carolina Biting and Stinging Pests
Southern Devil Scorpion
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Although we tend to think of scorpions as inhabiting desert areas, there is a species of scorpion found primarily in western North Carolina. Vaejovis carolinianus (Figure 1, Figure 2), more commonly called the "southern unstriped scorpion" or "southern devil scorpion." Its body is more uniformly brown and about one inch in length when fully grown. This species is found in the southeastern United States on up into Virginia and central Kentucky. In North Carolina, it has been found primarily in the western area from Cherokee County to Polk County. However, it has been reported in other areas of the state as well. Other scorpions, particularly the striped bark scorpion, Centruroides vittatus, and the Hentz striped scorpion Centruroides hentzi, have been introduced accidentally with the movement of items from their native areas and could become established in other areas of North Carolina.
Figure 1. Southern devil scorpion, Vejovis carolinianus.
Figure 1. Southern devil scorpion, Vejovis carolinianus.
Courtesy of Chris Bartol, Tryon, NC
Figure 2. Female scorpion carrying offspring.
Figure 2. Female scorpion carrying offspring.
Courtesy of Chris Bartol, Tryon, NC
Scorpion Habitat
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Scorpions are normally found outdoors under the loose bark of trees and logs or under logs and stones on the ground. Around homes, they prefer wood piles (Figure 3), crumbling stone, brick foundations, or possibly inside the crawlspace of a house, particularly if old building materials like lumber are stored there (and the scorpions "hitch-hike" on them). The diet of scorpions normally consists of insects, millipedes, spiders, and sometimes very small reptiles. Although we generally associate scorpions with dry desert-like conditions, the southern unstriped scorpion is usually found in very moist areas because that is where their prey is found. Many people become alarmed when they see a live scorpion scurrying across their carpet or find a dead one in their closet or behind / under furniture. Dead scorpions are found in recessed ceiling lighting fixtures in a home usually as a result of infested items being moved into an unfinished attic.
Scorpions prefer to live outdoors. However, they may survive (and thrive) indoors if they find suitable prey. Scorpions are more likely to be found in areas that are moist or humid, such as bathrooms, kitchens (near the sink), or in a laundry room. They may enter homes through openings around plumbing fixtures, loose fitting doors and windows (Figure 4), or through existing cracks in foundations and walls.
Figure 3. Woodpiles make an attractive habitat for scorpions. Al
Figure 3. Woodpiles make an attractive habitat for scorpions. Always wear gloves when handling firewood.
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Figure 4. Scorpions can crawl through gaps around doors and enter crawlspaces.
Do Not Be Alarmed
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Unfortunately, the sight of one scorpion often sends people into a nervous panic. Although the southern unstriped scorpion can sting, it is not considered to be a public health threat except possibly to individuals who are allergic to other arthropod venoms or have other health issues. However, the sting of a scorpion is painful, so people that have sighted a few in their home may want to take some simple precautions. The easiest step to take is to vigorously shake clothing before wearing. Shaking is particularly useful with shoes stored in a closet or workboots left outdoors on porches or steps. Scorpions tend to be more active at night so beds should not touch the room walls. In houses where scorpions have been seen before, individuals should not walk barefoot at night.
Control Measures
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Controlling scorpions really amounts to several tasks:
Find their hiding places both indoors and outdoors. Inside the home, you can expect them to be hiding in dark areas. Carefully remove items from cabinets (e.g., under sinks) and the floor of closets and inspect the areas carefully. If you have found several scorpions indoors, it is a good idea to wear garden gloves when removing items for inspection. You can also use glue boards (the same type used for mice) in closets and under sinks to monitor for scorpions. Outdoors, get rid of piles of debris outside where scorpions, spiders, and other pests may hide. Check around rock piles. Stones used for landscaping or bark mulches can occasionally harbor scorpions. It is a good practice to check firewood before bringing it indoors as well. Always wear gloves when handling firewood or cleaning up debris piles.
Seal openings around plumbing fixtures
with foam insulation, repair loose fitting doors and windows, caulk cracks in basement walls and foundations, remove stored building materials in the basement or crawl space, and remove debris, including firewood stacks away from the house. Control of scorpions by chemical methods can be difficult and thus is the least preferred route to take. The reason insecticides do not work well is because scorpions can survive for several months without feeding. Scorpions have been known to live for six months without food and water and may hide for two months after feeding. Therefore a product with a long residual action is needed to await their emergence. Several insecticides have some effectiveness against scorpions and are available for consumer use. The following are some examples.
Active IngredientCommon Brand Name
bifenthrinOrtho Home Defense (indoor/outdoor)
cyfluthrinBayer Advanced Pest Control (indoor/outdoor)
gamma-cyhalothrinSpectracide Bug Stop (indoor/outdoor use)
However, the most effective and safest applications are probably best performed by a licensed pest management professional. Indoor treatments should be directed to the baseboards (a "crack & crevice treatment"), corners and closets where the scorpions (and their prey) might hide. Extreme care must be exercised when spraying in a confined area like a closet or where food and cooking surfaces or utensils could be contaminated. Exterior treatments should include spraying the foundation and around doors, windows and other possible entry points. A general treatment of crawlspaces is typically unnecessary with isolated occurrences of scorpions and is probably best left to professionals if you want one done.
Resources
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Grounds Maintenance Magazine, October, 1984
Shelley, R.M. and W. D. Sissom 1995. Distribution of the Scorpions Centruroides vittatus (Say) and Centroides hentzi (Banks) int he United States and Mexico (Scorpiones, Burthidae). Journal of Arachnology 23:100-110.
Authors
Michael WaldvogelExtension Specialist (Household & Structural Entomology)
Entomology and Plant Pathology
Patricia AlderAsst. Director - Structural Pest Management Training Facility
Entomology and Plant Pathology
John ViningCounty Extension Director (Retired)
Cooperative Extension Service)
 

ComCamGuy

Remote Paramedical pain in the ass
That's one of the reason we don't discourage the possums and raccoons around the house. They keep most of the crawlies away. Even better would be some skunks. Scorpions are their favoritemost snack!
 
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