CORONA Scandal-Plagued Carnival Books First Post-Corona Cruise For Aug. 1

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...hope springs eternal, I guess. Who's gonna buy a ticket??

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Scandal-Plagued Carnival Books First Post-Corona Cruise For Aug. 1

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 13:51

When we first saw the following headline, our first reaction was to rub our eyes in disbelief, before double-checking the URL to make sure we were really on CNBC.com and not some new Onion vertical.



With an open criminal investigation in Australia and hundreds of thousands of outraged customers and their friends and family members who will likely never voluntarily board another cruise for as long as they live, Carnival Corp - the world's biggest cruise line operator - is planning to launch its first post-corona cruises on Aug. 1, with 8 ships leaving from ports in Miami, Cape Canaveral and Galveston, Texas.

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The first few replies sum up what we imagine to be the sentiments of many Americans who followed the horrifying reports about what we dubbed "a nightmare at sea": Every time a new outbreak aboard a cruise ship seemed to explode into an international incident, the cruise line was seemingly inevitably a Carnival subsidiary, particularly the "Princess Cruises" line that drew the ire of Australian public health officials and - later - prosecutors.

First there was the Diamond Princess, then the Coral Princess and the Ruby Princess.

Ships from other Carnival subsidiaries also saw outbreaks at sea. Ultimately, dozens died and thousands were infected. Reporting from Bloomberg and the Washington Post has suggested that Carnival management was partly at fault.

Replies to the news were pretty much what we expected...






...and, like Mr. Weisenthal, we suspect there will be quite a bit of coverage when the first cruise sets sail.

Joe Weisenthal@TheStalwart
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What % of that first cruise in August is going to be reporters?

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Though we imagine more than a few bargain-hunters will jump at the opportunity as well...after all...

 

[Redleg]

Who would want anything to do with this? Even before the Covid-19 mess there were people getting sick on these things. I don't care if you give me all expense paid tickets, no way in hell would I go.

 

[Housecarl]

It may have to do with the holder of their notes, something akin to a "good faith effort".

 

[Melodi]

I am amazed they can get insurance!

One thing I've noticed is on both sides of the water many businesses may not be able to reopen without some sort of coverage for having to close down and most companies are refusing to write it.

It is an under-reported story in Ireland but serious enough I suspect the government will either have to provide "self-insurance" which is what I'm sure the insurance companies want (they always want the government to take over things that might involve big payouts later).

The other "option" I think more likely in the US are "guarantees" that businesses are "not liable" for folks getting sick on their premises unless "wilful dereliction of standards" or some other vague and nearly impossible to prove, "violation of safety standards" has occurred.

Basically, the companies and the insurance companies that back them get a free pass - which makes sense if you're talking about a hospital ER, maybe even a movie theater but a cruise ship?

Especially since most are not even registered in the United States...

 

[Faroe]

Last place I'd want to be.
But, good for them!

I would suggest that the passengers accept PERSONAL responsibility, and not look to .gov to bail their sorry assses out at some Third World port-of-call, but still...good for them.

 

[dvo]

People will book. They may not fill their first cruise, but people will book. That wouldn’t be me of course, but a cruise wouldn’t be in my top 50 things to do on a vacation.

 

[Macgyver]

5 day Eastern Caribbean cruise leaving Miami nov 30th. $149 for an interior room little over 600 for a suite.
I've never looked at their cruises leaving Miami but that sounds dirt Corona cheap.

 

[Tristan]

Sounds good!


Except for the whole, "Post-Corona" thing, of course.

 

[niceguy]

Just reading about norovirus years ago was enough to make me utterly uninterested in cruises. Now? Hell no

 

[Jonas Parker]

I'll pay to send Pelosi and Shumer on a cruise on the SS Pandemic Princess! Heck, I'll even throw in a bottle of Champaign...

 

[Dozdoats]

Who knew a cruise line was TBTF?
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Turns out Carnival Cruise Line got a backdoor multibillion-dollar bailout from the federal reserve

Carnival Cruise Line, after “missing out” on the original set of big business bailouts, is going to get some of that American taxpayer money. Turns out Carnival Corporation was never missing out on any of the scam spending by Trump and Mnuchin and our...

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Turns Out Carnival Cruise Line got a backdoor multibillion-dollar bailout from the federal reserve

Walter Einenkel Daily Kos StaffMonday April 27, 2020· 3:08 PM EDT2020/04/27 · 15:08
"Based in Miami." Incorporated in Panama.
Carnival Cruise Line, after “missing out” on the original set of big business bailouts, is going to get some of that American taxpayer money. Turns out Carnival Corporation was never missing out on any of the scam spending by Trump and Mnuchin and our country’s federal reserves. The Wall Street Journal reports that the Fed’s March push to throw tons of money into the markets was a nice way of bailing out Carnival by creating a cheap lending market to move the failing company’s debt around.

According to WSJ, the cruise line company was dead in the water when it began looking to borrow billions in high-interest loans. They found a crew of hedge funds (called “the consortium”) willing to offer up $4 billion to $6 billion at “an annual interest rate exceeding 15% and potentially give the lenders a stake in the company.” But when the Fed entered, offering up billions that now included “loans to companies with investment-grade ratings as well as purchases of their bonds,” Carnival, and others, were able to lower those interest rates and grab a ton of taxpayer money by way of lender investment.
Trump made it clear weeks ago that if you were a business buddy or sponsor of the Donald Trump experience in any way, he was going to get you some bailout money. Not you dumb MAGA-hat-wearing idiots. No, the people getting bailout money don’t wear trashy propaganda produced by a fake billionaire con man. They wear their own trashy propaganda and Trump jumps as high as they tell him. And the Senate made it clear in the first coronavirus stimulus package that they had no interest in letting anyone know how they were going to spend $450 billion in corporate bailout money.

On his business news show today, CNBC’s Jim Cramer—not known for being a wide-eyed socialist—called the bailout of Carnival Cruise Line a “disgrace,” explaining that if the government is arguing it has a finite amount of resources for bailing out our economic engines of business, why would someone give money to a failure of a cruise ship business? Asking out loud what the logic was, Cramer wondered if big bailouts from the Federal Reserve were “limited to companies run by Micky Arison.”
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Arison is the chairperson of the Carnival Corporation and a longtime sponsor of Donald Trump’s career. After all of this bailout talk, Fortune reports that the “Miami-based” but Panama-incorporated company has no plans to come back to America and, you know, pay some taxes. Why should they when they’re already getting the “America First” treatment?

 

[Jonas Parker]

Oh yes! I believe every word from the Daily Kos..... NOT!

 

[AlaskaSue]

And Alaska news today announced Carnival has cancelled final Alaska sailings for 2020. Tourist season is toast here, this was not unexpected. But campgrounds are expected to have a boom year.

Carnival Cruise Line cancels its final Alaska sailings for 2020

Holland America, Princess and other lines affiliated with Carnival Corp. have not yet announced additional canceled voyages due to the coronavirus crisis.

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Carnival Cruise Line cancels its final Alaska sailings for 2020
Carnival Cruise Line said Monday it will cancel the 2020 sailings of its last remaining Alaska-bound ship, the Carnival Spirit.
The announcement further batters an Alaska tourist season already weakened by the coronavirus pandemic. Carnival said in a written statement that it intends to resume North American cruises Aug. 1, but Carnival Spirit cruises after that date will remain canceled.
Carnival Cruise Line is part of Carnival Corp., an umbrella corporation that includes Holland America, Princess and other lines that also send ships to Alaska. None of those affiliated companies announced similar moves Monday....

State parks are expecting more campground use by Alaskans during the COVID-19 pandemic

Alaska has already seen a 30% to 40% increase in state park use over last year, a spokeswoman said.

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State parks are expecting more campground use by Alaskans during the COVID-19 pandemic
Alaska State Parks campgrounds will reopen this year within the normal time frame and are expecting higher than average numbers of Alaska visitors and a drop in tourism due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Most campgrounds will open around May 15, said Wendy Sailors, a spokeswoman for the Department of Natural Resources.
Sailors said there has already been a 30% to 40% increase in park use over this time last year.

 

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