POL Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals (Again)

[dstraito]

I know.

This has been posted many times.

I am going to post it again because it bears repeating and is more relevant than ever.

The Left is persistent, they never stop nibbling at the right, push, nudge, shove. Bottom up.

The Ends Justify The Means.

I truly believe liberalism is a mental disease at people want to enact laws and rules that are detrimental to society.

The Second Amendment and our way of life is being attacked.

True to the Hegelian Dialect, they are closer than ever to moving the bar toward the left on gun control.

They have Trump and others making concessions and suggesting measures to impose laws on people that obey the laws, pale that have done nothing wrong.

If ever there was going to be a false flag following a recent false flag, the time is now because they have gotten traction and movement. Why lose would schools be the chosen targets? Because of the evisceral and emotional reaction it causes.

Remember, the ends justify the means.

Now, without further ado:

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.“ Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.“ It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.“ Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.“ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.“ They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.“ Don’t become old news.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.“ Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.“ Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10.“The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.“ Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.“ Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.“ Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

 

[dstraito]

Attributed to Saul, Obama, and Hitlery that Snopes denies but I think is more true than false

Alinsky:

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.

The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

 

[dstraito]

Something similar and probably used as a model

Communist Rules For Revolution


News History
Communist Rules for Revolution
A list of 'Communist Rules for Revolution' supposedly discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919.
3K






CLAIM: A list of “Communist Rules for Revolution” was discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919.


FALSE
EXAMPLE: [Collected via e-mail, June 2007]


Communist Rules for Revolution


In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness. (Millenials anyone?)

2. Get control of all means of publicity. (Lamestream media, fake news)

3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities. (NFL, NBA, wrong hero worship)

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. (US vs the, class war, cultural war, sexual war, economic war, racial war, religious war)

5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy. (I have never seen more derisive comments or hope than someone fails at the countries expense)

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. (Preach democracy while this country was created a Republic. Gain power by any means possible like a community organizer gets dirt on his opponents and runs unopposed)

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent. ( National debt - nuff said)

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. (Sound familiar?)

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.

(Protect the helpless - unless they are still in the womb and then kill at will, thousands percentage higher score than gun deaths)

Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it.

 

[dstraito]

Saul Alinsky wrote this book to start a revolution and turn this country into a communist vision.

Anyone think a Communist America will work out favorable for us?

He dedicated his book to Lucifer. Anyone that that is a good role model and guide to a way of living we should strive for?

Hillary wrote a college thesis on Alinsky and felt aligned with him on many of his thoughts. Anyone think that is a good line of reasoning to follow, Alinsky->Lucifer->Hillary?

Bill Ayers, a member of the Weather Underground, advocated the death of 25 million Americans to be able to complete the revolution he envisioned. Arguably, he wrote Obamas book and Obama got his political start in Ayers living room and had mentors like Jeremiah Wright who was infamous for his god damn America comment.

So what we are seeing is a group of people that are unhappy with America as we know it and wish to change it through revolution.

While I understand that, I question how they could have half of America behind them, believing in and supporting their goals.

And then I look at the Rules for Radicals Methods to bring about Social Change and the Communist Rules For Revoution and I am starting to understand how this came about.

It did not happen overnight but has taken decades, using methods like the Hegilian Dialect and methods from radicals like Cloward and Piven to bring about their goals.

I'm not sure how to effectively combat them, but it obvious we are going to have to be as ruthless as they are or see our way of life disappear.

I wonder how far the fulcrum can be nudged left before the entire mechanism topples into the abyss like putting too many soldiers ashore on Guam tipping the island over.

 

[Dobbin]

Attributed to Saul, Obama, and Hitlery that Snopes denies but I think is more true than false

Alinsky:

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.

The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Education should be relabeled "information."

If all you have is information from others, others will control what you think.

Owner's Wife has a "smart phone." She's set it up with "apps" to notify her of significant local and national events: weather emergencies, school closings, Donald Trump's latest twitter gaffe, Hillary's latest address bemoaning how the nation has turned "facist" and has no heart. Yunno - what those who own the app "think you should know."

Not what you ACTUALLY should know - like the truth.

I've overheard her conversation with Owner more than once - which usually ends with him "Do you believe everything they tell you on that thing?""

Owner seems well versed on the power of information - and dis-information. Which I think is why he carries a "dumb phone."

"Matches the User" he says in self-deprecation.

For a quiet human he says a lot of things - his own "dis-information" methinks.

Dobbin

 

[vestige]

Something similar and probably used as a model

Communist Rules For Revolution


News History
Communist Rules for Revolution
A list of 'Communist Rules for Revolution' supposedly discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919.
3K






CLAIM: A list of “Communist Rules for Revolution” was discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919.


FALSE
EXAMPLE: [Collected via e-mail, June 2007]


Communist Rules for Revolution


In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness. (Millenials anyone?)

2. Get control of all means of publicity. (Lamestream media, fake news)

3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities. (NFL, NBA, wrong hero worship)

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. (US vs the, class war, cultural war, sexual war, economic war, racial war, religious war)

5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy. (I have never seen more derisive comments or hope than someone fails at the countries expense)

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. (Preach democracy while this country was created a Republic. Gain power by any means possible like a community organizer gets dirt on his opponents and runs unopposed)

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent. ( National debt - nuff said)

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. (Sound familiar?)

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.

(Protect the helpless - unless they are still in the womb and then kill at will, thousands percentage higher score than gun deaths)

Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it.

I have looked for this a long time. (read it in the 60s)

Does a link exist?

 

[Housecarl]

Of course this only works while the normal "the Rules" of the political system are in place...Once you start using the "banana republic" manual, "Rules for Radicals" falls flat since you've opened the door for Sulla's methods at that point. Being an "Adam Henry" with rhetoric and propaganda at that point is moot once that kicks in whether it be intra or extra judicial.

 

[dstraito]

I have looked for this a long time. (read it in the 60s)

Does a link exist?

Link1

https://unspy.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/the-communist-manifesto-rules-for-revolution/

https://www.snopes.com/history/document/communistrules.asp - they label this as false but what would you expect from them?

 

[Seer]

Communism is been at work in a big way in the USA since the 1930s. Many people thought the revolution in Russia would bring about a utopian society. We all know how that worked out. It really gained traction with the anti war movement in late 1960's early 70's infecting all the guilty parties - Clintons etc.

 

[Dobbin]

Of course this only works while the normal "the Rules" of the political system are in place...Once you start using the "banana republic" manual, "Rules for Radicals" falls flat since you've opened the door for Sulla's methods at that point. Being an "Adam Henry" with rhetoric and propaganda at that point is moot once that kicks in whether it be intra or extra judicial.

Pocket history of Sulla at http://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=resources&s=char-dir&f=sulla

Of particular note to our present...

In order to understand Sulla's actions, it must be remembered that the party of Sulla's enemy Marius was composed of rich and powerful men who claimed to represent the interests of the poor, rather than poor people themselves. Since the populares had seized control of the government by force, Sulla saw himself as reforming the government, and putting things back in proper order. He held his dictatorship for less than three years, and then retired from public life. He spent his few remaining years writing his memoirs, and travelling freely around Rome without a bodyguard, convinced that posterity would exonerate him. He died in 78 B.C. and wrote his own epitaph (a masterpiece of understatement): "No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full."

Perhaps Trump can be compared to a Sulla - minus the executions?

Dobbin

 

[dstraito]

What I'd really like to know, is, in the greatest country in the world, why are people not satisfied with striving for greatness.

Why are there people trying to destroy what is good?

Why rather than try harder to excell are there people who work just as hard to subvert, to scam, to revolt?

Historically it has been proven, the societies these people are trying to create not only do not work but are detrimental to life as we know it. What gives?

 

[bw]

Saul Alinsky wrote this book to start a revolution and turn this country into a communist vision.

He wrote it to help those with no power to gain power. It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're a leftist or rightist. The rules work for anyone. Boiled down, his rules are a prescription for keeping your people focused and your opponents off balance. Nothing about that depends on your party.

 

[mrrk1562]

well they could not just walk around with chairman moa's little red book could they .

 

[Dozdoats]

Perhaps Trump can be compared to a Sulla

Would that were so.