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[Housecarl]

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San Andreas Fault Movement Sparks Earthquake Fears in California, Is the "Big One" Coming?

By Kathleen Wong June 24, 2016

The world's most notorious fault line has massive seismic pressure just waiting to be released, new scientific evidence has confirmed. When it snaps, it could unleash a massive earthquake, possibly the long-hypothesized "Big One." The San Andreas fault sits right where the North American and Pacific Plates meet and — with curves included — it spans about 800 miles long.

Once it ruptures, which scientists say it inevitably will, it could wreak havoc on the densely populated state of California. "Our impending catastrophe is so obvious," former United States Geological Survey seismologist Lucy Jones said earlier this week, according to the Los Angeles Daily News.

California sits atop a sleeping giant

While the state is no stranger to earthquakes, new and first-of-their-kind images made by scientists from the University of Hawaii at Manoa reveal large portions of California that surround the San Andreas fault have actually been subtly moving up and down at the annual rate of just a few millimeters — like a wave. Most of the Los Angeles Basin, Orange County, the city of Bakersfield and San Diego County are sinking, while Santa Barbara County and San Luis Obispo County are rising.

"When the next big earthquake strikes, the different parts of Southern California will lurch back to the same level," according to the Los Angeles Times.

To make the images, the scientists broke down GPS data to "isolate a simple vertical motion pattern that curiously straddled the San Andreas fault," the study's lead author Sam Howell said in a statement.


San Andreas Fault Movement Sparks Earthquake Fears in California, Is the "Big One" Coming?

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Source: University of Hawaii at Manoa

So, what's in store?

It's been about 150 years since the last significant movement for the fault's land between Monterey County and Imperial County; in the fault's other areas, stress has been building for 300 years. The last time a major earthquake shook the San Andreas fault was in 1857, and it had a 7.9 magnitude (the same level that struck and severely damaged Nepal last year). Further south on the line, the last earthquake hasn't taken place since 1690.

However daunting, the timing of such an earthquake can't be determined yet, and is "pretty much impossible to say," Howell said, according to the Los Angeles Times. When that happens, the land around the fault will stay put and the other parts will even out.

Other studies have shown that an earthquake with a magnitude of more than 7.0 could occur from the fault's current stress levels.

But just verifies what many Californians have already predicted. On Thursday, community members, including business owners and public policy leaders, got together in a call for action for better earthquake preparation in order to "prevent the inevitable disaster from becoming a catastrophe," according to the Los Angeles Times. The Southern California Association of Governments will be handing out information to about 191 cities on how to create a disaster plan for when the "Big One" hits.

The recent news didn't seem to shake apparent California residents, many of whom are aware they live in earthquake territory.

"Everyone knows the San Andreas fault will slip, it looks like it's finally happening," one Facebook user wrote.

"Living in the Bay Area almost my whole life I know this is something we always hear but to my family and friends in the Bay ... time to take precautions seriously," another said. "Prepare."

 

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New Report Sounds Alarm On Vulnerability Of Cajon Pass Should Major San Andreas Quake Hit

June 23, 2016 10:50 PM

FONTANA (CBSLA.com) — The San Andreas fault is California’s longest and most dangerous fault line.

That’s why, when the “big one” hits, it could go right through the Cajon Pass, where vital resources, like freeways, railroads and utility lines intersect.

For people like Manuel Armendarez, who lives and works in the area, it’s frightening.

“I’m really concerned,” he said. “That’s my main way of transportation back and forth from work, so something happens there, that’s my bread and butter there for my family.”

Armendarez still remembers last year’s wildfire that burned dozens of cars on the 15 Freeway.

Now, according to a new report, an earthquake that causes a wildfire in the area could wipe out the San Bernardino and San Gabriel Mountains.

That’s because firefighting resources would likely be used on homes and people instead, while the national forests burn.

The report was put together by businesses, policymakers and utility companies, and is meant to educate small city and big business leaders outside of Los Angeles who can actually do something to minimize the risk.

Too often, it says, people don’t prepare because it’s too complicated or too overwhelming.

But, experts say, that needs to change, one simple step at a time.

One recommendation for the Cajon Pass includes putting in shut-off valves to automatically turn off petroleum and natural gas pipelines that run through the area during an earthquake because a massive wildfire begins.

To read the report, click here.

 

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San Andreas fault might be stronger than we thought, new study suggests

Sanden Totten
June 10 2016

The San Andreas fault is already the biggest, baddest earthquake threat in the region, but new research from Caltech suggests it might be even more dangerous than we thought.

The study, published Thursday in the journal Science, suggests that the amount of energy stored in the fault might go beyond what traditional quake models would predict.

An earthquake happens when two massive plates of earth’s crust rub against each other and get stuck. As they try to push past each other, they build up tension until finally they snap and release a whole lot of shaking.

Deeper in the earth it’s much hotter, so the plates aren't as solid and strong and don't stick with the same force. They can lock up for a short time, but before long the pressure is too much and they release their energy with tiny quakes in a phenomenon known as microseismicity.

Caltech researcher Nadia Lapusta says that’s what we see happening regularly on stretches of the San Andreas fault north of Southern California.

But when you look at sections running through the Mojave Desert and Coachella Valley, she says, "the fault is just silent ... and so you have to ask why?"

Using computer models and data from real quakes, Lapusta and her co-author, Junle Jiang, developed a theory to explain this eerie absence of small quakes.

They hypothesize that the stiff, strong portion of the plates that locks up is much deeper in those areas, extending down to the zone where micro-quakes tend to occur.

If that's true, then more stress could be building up, leading to potentially larger quakes once the fault ruptures.

Researchers currently think the portion of the fault running through Southern California is capable of about a magnitude 8 quake. Lapusta thinks even under this new model that wouldn't change dramatically.

"Under no circumstances does this imply going from a magnitude 8 to a magnitude 9," she explained.

However, she thinks it could mean slightly stronger quakes that rupture across a longer stretch of the fault, causing more damage to more areas nearby.

More research needs to be done to see exactly how much stronger the fault would be in specific areas.

Still, it's another good reminder that Southern California is living with a ticking time bomb in its backyard. Time to make sure that quake kit is ready.

 

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Get Your Car Earthquake-Ready

Being in a hunk of moving metal doesn’t mean you’re safe

June 24, 2016 Neal Broverman Transportation 0 Comments

In case you missed the news about the San Andreas Fault, researchers discovered the treacherous quake-trigger has been steadily moving up and down for years. What this means for our chances of colliding head-first with the “Big One” is unclear, but it’s made the need for preparation feel even more urgent.

If a large temblor does arrive while you’re home, find some sturdy furniture and get underneath it (the door jamb option is so last century). But if you’re driving? Well, we have some tips here, which include pulling over to a shoulder and stopping where nothing can fall on you; shutting off the car, putting on the parking brake, and covering your head.

It’s a good idea to carry some essentials in your car in case you’re stuck in your car for a while—after a quake, your car could be damaged, you could find yourself miles from help, or traffic could be at a standstill.

• Water
It’s always a good idea to have a couple bottles in your vehicle. FEMA recommends store-brought bottles—they’ll last longer—and be aware of the expiration date.

• Energy bars
These are good to have in case you’re stuck in your car for a while. You can always bust into them in other emergencies; like if your four-hour drive to Vegas turns into an eight-hour slog.

• First Aid Kit
Just in case. We found this 121-piece kit for $19.99.

• Flashlight
In case you have to leave your car, and it’s evening, you don’t want to use your cell phone and suck up your battery.

• Wireless Phone Charger
Speaking of which, you’ll want to make sure your phone can be juiced up at a moment’s notice. Here are some options.

• Hoodie or Jacket
Another instance of “always good to have.” Pull one from your closet you never wear and toss it in your trunk; you’ll never miss it.

• Cash
Hide 10 bucks in your glove compartment under your registration. It might come in super handy in an emergency like a major quake.

 

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Deadly but little-known: Why scientists are so afraid of the San Jacinto fault

Rong-Gong LIn II, Shelby Grad and Joseph Serna
June 10, 2016, 6:02 PM

The 5.2 magnitude earthquake that hit the desert southeast of Los Angeles on Friday was centered along the San Jacinto fault, which is one of the region’s most active and potentially dangerous fault lines.

The fault runs through populated areas such as San Bernardino, Colton, Moreno Valley, Redlands, Loma Linda, Hemet and San Jacinto, as well as near Riverside, Rialto and Fontana. The epicenter of Friday’s quake was in a more isolated area near Borrego Springs in eastern San Diego County.

The quake, which struck at 1:04 a.m., triggered more than 450 aftershocks but caused no major damage.

Experts have been warning for some time, however, that the San Jacinto fault — while less well known than the San Andreas — poses a major threat to the region.

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"Because the San Jacinto fault cuts into the middle of the Inland Empire — instead of the edge of the desert — it cuts through a lot more people,” Julian Lozos, a Cal State Northridge professor of geophysics, told The Times in March. “There's just more people directly living on this fault."

One big concern is San Bernardino — a city of 215,000 people that fell into bankruptcy in 2012 and suffers from one of the highest poverty rates among the nation's largest urban areas. San Bernardino has one of the largest concentrations of earthquake-vulnerable brick buildings in a location with a high risk of intense shaking.

The San Jacinto fault is also remarkably long, spanning 130 miles, which may explain why Friday’s temblor reportedly was felt from Santa Barbara to the Mexican border, said Egill Hauksson, a research professor of geophysics at Caltech.

A Downey woman told KNX-AM (1070) that the quake struck with a “soft roll,” then later “hit again stronger.” A caller from Costa Mesa described a “back and forth” sensation.

Ron and Teri Walker were inside their hotel room in Palm Springs when the room began to shake.

“We held each other, not sure what the next step was,” Teri Walker told KNBC-TV Channel 4.

The San Jacinto fault is characterized by less compression between its plates compared with the San Andreas fault, which means when slippage occurs, the ensuing quake is less severe, Hauksson said.

But the fault, which runs from the Cajon Pass in San Bernardino County southeast toward the Mexican border, is one of the region’s most active. The 1987 Superstition Hills earthquakes, which hit about 90 miles east of San Diego, topped out at magnitudes 6.5 and 6.7, and caused $3 million in damage in Imperial County.

“Most of the time when you have an earthquake in Southern California, it’s on the San Jacinto fault,” Hauksson said.

In an unnerving scenario, both the San Jacinto and San Andreas faults could rupture together in a 7.5-magnitude earthquake, according to one study.

The study, which Lozos wrote as a researcher at Stanford University and at the U.S. Geological Survey, looked at whether a massive 1812 quake in Southern California was the result of shaking on both fault lines.

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[Nowski]

I have been praying for this to happen.

Of course, all decent people still living in that royally screwed up POS state,
should get out of there, as best they can. Let the POS liberals, the POS illegal Mexicans
have it, as that state is gone, and has caused so much damage to the FUSA.

Once all the decent people are gone from there, the greatest of all earthquakes
known in the Milky Way Galaxy, could then sever that POS state from the FUSA,
sending Commiefornia, into the depths of the Pacific Ocean.

At least, that is what I pray for.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[Lurker]

I have been praying for this to happen.

Of course, all decent people still living in that royally screwed up POS state,
should get out of there, as best they can. Let the POS liberals, the POS illegal Mexicans
have it, as that state is gone, and has caused so much damage to the FUSA.

Once all the decent people are gone from there, the greatest of all earthquakes
known in the Milky Way Galaxy, could then sever that POS state from the FUSA,
sending Commiefornia, into the depths of the Pacific Ocean.

At least, that is what I pray for.

Regards to all,
Nowski

^^^^This. I'd like to see a CAexit.... Into the ocean.

 

[Housecarl]

I have been praying for this to happen.

Of course, all decent people still living in that royally screwed up POS state,
should get out of there, as best they can. Let the POS liberals, the POS illegal Mexicans
have it, as that state is gone, and has caused so much damage to the FUSA.

Once all the decent people are gone from there, the greatest of all earthquakes
known in the Milky Way Galaxy, could then sever that POS state from the FUSA,
sending Commiefornia, into the depths of the Pacific Ocean.

At least, that is what I pray for.

Regards to all,
Nowski

^^^^This. I'd like to see a CAexit.... Into the ocean.

Guys, consider this...Recall after Katrina demolished New Orleans TPTB resettled tens of thousands in other states from New Orleans.

You have a quake/quakes of similar effect in and around LA that crashes the infrastructure, particularly the water system, and they'll very likely use that option again.

The question then is where would they ship them?

 

[MaureenO]

Well, the fault line of greatest interest/danger/threat is NOT the SA, it's the Cascadian Fault ~ north of Calif ~ the PNW.

Maureen

 

[Housecarl]

Well, the fault line of greatest interest/danger/threat is NOT the SA, it's the Cascadian Fault ~ north of Calif ~ the PNW.

Maureen

Yes, the PNW is more likely in the near future to get a cataclysmic quake (or for that matter the volcanos of the Cascadian Range going off) than So. Cal, but what I brought up as a side effect is still IMHO relevant.

 

[JF&P]

The SA is a slip strike type fault whereas the Cascadian is a subduction fault...similar to the one that is near Japan. Potential devastation is more likely from a subduction fault.

 

[ainitfunny]

After discovering that I live, my house sits, RIGHT ON a NAMED MAJOR EQ FAULT, (NOT a mile from, Not a hundred yards from, but RIGHT ON) the actual "Tacoma fault" I am sure not looking forward to an Earthquake!!

I have links to MAPS of the PNW Western Washington earthquake faults, detailed enough to ascertain whether YOU live on one.

 

[Terriannie]

I have been praying for this to happen.

Of course, all decent people still living in that royally screwed up POS state,
should get out of there, as best they can. Let the POS liberals, the POS illegal Mexicans
have it, as that state is gone, and has caused so much damage to the FUSA.

Once all the decent people are gone from there, the greatest of all earthquakes
known in the Milky Way Galaxy, could then sever that POS state from the FUSA,
sending Commiefornia, into the depths of the Pacific Ocean.

At least, that is what I pray for.

Regards to all,
Nowski

Now why would you pray for this to happen? You do realize that "gone" will mean DEATHS, as a matter of fact, many, many, many horrific, DEATHS???

I'm sorry, I dislike "Commifornia" with it's libs, illegals and elites like the rest here but I draw the line within my soul in desiring such a "solution."

I'll be praying for them and you.

 

[tanstaafl]

Researchers currently think the portion of the fault running through Southern California is capable of about a magnitude 8 quake. Lapusta thinks even under this new model that wouldn't change dramatically.

"Under no circumstances does this imply going from a magnitude 8 to a magnitude 9," she explained.

Sorry Hollywood and people who think (hope) California will slide into the ocean, but as far as I know there's no geological evidence for strike-slip faults to EVER store enough energy to go much higher than high magnitude 7's (although as the article suggests, new research may refine that range a little higher into the low 8's). As JF&P notes, for the really big ones you need subduction zones and the San Andreas just isn't subduction zone geology. However, for doomers seeking their doom fix there apparently is some correlation between Cascadia Subduction Zone events and San Andreas events.

 

[Housecarl]

Sorry Hollywood and people who think (hope) California will slide into the ocean, but as far as I know there's no geological evidence for strike-slip faults to EVER store enough energy to go much higher than high magnitude 7's (although as the article suggests, new research may refine that range a little higher into the low 8's). As JF&P notes, for the really big ones you need subduction zones and the San Andreas just isn't subduction zone geology. However, for doomers seeking their doom fix there apparently is some correlation between Cascadia Subduction Zone events and San Andreas events.

Yeah, some of the theories along those lines now suggest a "daisy chain effect" with a "big one" on either end being enough to shake loose a neighboring locked up fault system. That's now being floated as an explanation for the Lisbon quake in the 1700s and suggested for the West Coast's geological formations.

 

[ainitfunny]

WHEREVER YOU LIVE (NOT just the pacific NW)
HERE is the link to the USGS United States Interactive Fault Map:
(Includes EQ faults in Alaska and Hawaii)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/hazards/qfaults/map/#qfaults

 

[Nowski]

Now why would you pray for this to happen? You do realize that "gone" will mean DEATHS, as a matter of fact, many, many, many horrific, DEATHS???

I'm sorry, I dislike "Commifornia" with it's libs, illegals and elites like the rest here but I draw the line within my soul in desiring such a "solution."

I'll be praying for them and you.

Then how are you going to fix that royally screwed up state,
and this royally screwed up nation, unless there is an incredibly destructive, natural disaster?

What area of the nation, deserves more to be utterly destroyed by nature,
than the POS so called state, of California?

So much of this nation's problems, can be traced back to the POS people that live,
in that POS state.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah? The Most High God did not want to
destroy those cities. However, only Lot and his family were found to be
worthy enough to live, and they were told to leave. You know the rest of the story.

The same I feel, holds true for not only California, but the entire liberal left coast.

Only massive physical pain, will wake stupid people that are sound asleep, from their slumber.

Perhaps a quake on the San Andreas, can then set off the Cascadia,
and the entire liberal left coast can disappear.

Like I stated previously, there are good and decent people still living in California,
Oregon and Washington. They need to prepare to leave as best possible,
and my prayers are for their safety.

Its all about punishment. I say let the punishment begin.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[Old as dirt]

Then how are you going to fix that royally screwed up state,
and this royally screwed up nation, unless there is an incredibly destructive, natural disaster?

What area of the nation, deserves more to be utterly destroyed by nature,
than the POS so called state, of California?

So much of this nation's problems, can be traced back to the POS people that live,
in that POS state.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah? The Most High God did not want to
destroy those cities. However, only Lot and his family were found to be
worthy enough to live, and they were told to leave. You know the rest of the story.

The same I feel, holds true for not only California, but the entire liberal left coast.

Only massive physical pain, will wake stupid people that are sound asleep, from their slumber.

Perhaps a quake on the San Andreas, can then set off the Cascadia,
and the entire liberal left coast can disappear.

Like I stated previously, there are good and decent people still living in California,
Oregon and Washington. They need to prepare to leave as best possible,
and my prayers are for their safety.

Its all about punishment. I say let the punishment begin.

Regards to all,
Nowski

I worked and lived in San Francisco for 25 years. We moved when husband retired. Its a fun city, We would go to fishermans wharf and eat dungus crab and feed the sea gulls, I love china town and there food. Maiden lane and the little shops, Market street all cobbled and the deli's with crab salads to die for. There is good even in Liberal cities.

 

[ainitfunny]

I worked and lived in San Francisco for 25 years. We moved when husband retired. Its [Ed:was?] a fun city, We would go to fishermans wharf and eat dungus crab and feed the sea gulls, I love china town and there food. Maiden lane and the little shops, Market street all cobbled and the deli's with crab salads to die for. There is good even in Liberal cities.

How long ago was that OAD? Maybe not so much any longer?

 

[Bubble Head]

I worked and lived in San Francisco for 25 years. We moved when husband retired. Its a fun city, We would go to fishermans wharf and eat dungus crab and feed the sea gulls, I love china town and there food. Maiden lane and the little shops, Market street all cobbled and the deli's with crab salads to die for. There is good even in Liberal cities.

I too have enjoyed the finer things of San Francisco many years past. I would not go there today for any reason or treasure.

 

[Terriannie]

Then how are you going to fix that royally screwed up state,
and this royally screwed up nation, unless there is an incredibly destructive, natural disaster?

What area of the nation, deserves more to be utterly destroyed by nature,
than the POS so called state, of California?

So much of this nation's problems, can be traced back to the POS people that live,
in that POS state.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah? The Most High God did not want to
destroy those cities. However, only Lot and his family were found to be
worthy enough to live, and they were told to leave. You know the rest of the story.

The same I feel, holds true for not only California, but the entire liberal left coast.

Only massive physical pain, will wake stupid people that are sound asleep, from their slumber.

Perhaps a quake on the San Andreas, can then set off the Cascadia,
and the entire liberal left coast can disappear.

Like I stated previously, there are good and decent people still living in California,
Oregon and Washington. They need to prepare to leave as best possible,
and my prayers are for their safety.

Its all about punishment. I say let the punishment begin.

Regards to all,
Nowski

Um....Yes I do know the story. Sodom and Gomorrah was decided by GOD and NOT up to even Lot. Until the last rejection of His Law, He gave them all the chances which they ignored.

We need to PRAY for Commifornia, not WISH them DEATH before they hopefully take a better course, right? At any rate, I say leave it up to God if HE decides to use a catastrophic earthquake as a lesson. There's a BIG difference between "accepting" such a lesson, than "wanting" one.

 

[Hognutz]

Nowski.....DC might be even better.

 

[willowlady]

Its all about punishment. I say let the punishment begin.

Regards to all,
Nowski

After you, sir.

 

[Hognutz]

Earthquake would save us a lot of ammo at a later date.....

 

[Nowski]

Nowski.....DC might be even better.

Hognutz, I was looking forward to a comet or asteroid strike, to take that place out.

None of it is going to happen BTW. There isn't a planet X, the New Madrid is going to be
like it is, for the next hundred years, and the San Andreas and the Cascadia are
going to be just fine, for the next hundred years as well.

I truly believe, that the hand of the devil, is protecting these areas now,
as The Most High God has taken HIS hand away, along time ago.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[Be Well]

I have good friends in rural CA. There is a sharp divide in CA between rural and urban, same thing in OR. Conservative rural pretty much, urban commiepuke pretty much. It's a fairly sharp division.

 

[Nowski]

After you, sir.

I must admit, that I left myself wide open for that one, and have been rather harsh.

I have been out there, spent time in San Diego when I was in the US Navy,
and I visited as much of the state, that I possibly could.

One of my best friends is in Portland, and has been for years.

What has happened to not only California, but also to Oregon and Washington?

Why have good and decent conservative people, been overwhelmed in these states,
to the point that someone like me, would wish that the states simply were not there,
due to the destruction that the rest of the country, has suffered because of the
influence from these states.

Maybe something will happen, that will not bring destruction,
that will turn things around out on the left coast.

I will leave it at that.

Be safe everyone, including all decent people out on the left coast.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[willowlady]

Nowski: I, too, grieve over the loss of CA, OR, and WA (and other western states) as we once knew them. And I recognize that grief is a lot of what prompts your sometimes overheated posts.

Having lived in each state and seen the natural wonders and beauty God apportioned to each of them, I am dumbfounded by the mess people have made of them. When I lived in CA, it was a Reagan conservative state, or at least most of the people were so. IMO, it's all about the politics, most especially the liberal push to open the borders to any scum, via the extensive welfare programs and safe-haven cities, and to run the state on a deficit. Such policies will indeed bring the destruction of the state, are already well on the way. Same with OR and WA.

When "whatever" happens, be it disease, natural catastrophe's, etc., those wonders will still be there, although it may take a while for nature to heal from the depredations of people who have no respect for beauty. IMO, there remain a vestige of conservative people who will pick up the remains and set things straight. Only people who are at their core conservative, people who can make tough decisions that require everyone to be responsible for themselves -- because nothing else can work, can possibly hope to do the job. But what I also realize is that my generation will probably not live to see it. There are yet darker times ahead for all of us on the "left coast," and elsewhere in this nation. This much I know: My kids and grand kids living on the "left coast" stand a much better chance of living through what is coming than most places east of the Mississippi. Unless God actually plans for a turn-around and Trump can actually get something done about the various messes TPTB have created.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Just remember Nineveh. If it happened there, it can happen anywhere.