ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread
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Russian Navy missile ship holds artillery practice as US warship enters Black Sea
The mariners also practiced naval training elements, mine countermeasures and the defense of a missile boat in an unsafe roadstead
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26 NOV, 11:26
Russian Navy missile ship holds artillery practice as US warship enters Black Sea
The mariners also practiced naval training elements, mine countermeasures and the defense of a missile boat in an unsafe roadstead
SEVASTOPOL, November 26. /TASS/. The Black Sea Fleet’s missile boat Shuya practiced striking naval and aerial targets as a US guided missile destroyer entered the Black Sea, the Fleet’s press office reported on Friday.
"In the course of fulfilling combat training tasks, the personnel accomplished a set of preparatory and qualification firings at a naval practice range against sea and air targets from the ship’s artillery and missile armaments, using the basic AK-176 artillery gun and the Pantsyr-M surface-to-air missile/gun system," the press office said in a statement.
The mariners also practiced naval training elements, mine countermeasures and the defense of a missile boat in an unsafe roadstead.
The US Sixth Fleet announced on November 25 that the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) entered the Black Sea "on a routine patrol." As the US Navy claimed, "NATO allies and partners routinely operate in the region" to ensure a safe and stable maritime environment and "build partner capacity to improve effectiveness and interoperability."
Meanwhile, Russia’s National Defense Control Center reported on November 25 that the Russian naval forces had started to track the US destroyer’s deployments in the Black Sea. As the Defense Ministry of Russia stressed, the activity of US naval ships in the Black Sea is becoming an increasingly destabilizing factor in the region and one of the aims is to exploit Ukrainian territory for military purposes.
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BREAKING: Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Director says that there will be no Russian invasion of Ukraine, noting that everything that happens around this issue in the media is a malicious propaganda action of the US Department of State to escalate war in Donbass.
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BREAKING: Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Director says that there will be no Russian invasion of Ukraine, noting that everything that happens around this issue in the media is a malicious propaganda action of the US Department of State to escalate war in Donbass.
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The
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is currently blocked from crossing the contact line in non-government-controlled Luhansk. SMM’s safe and secure access throughout #Ukraine is critical for its crucial reporting on the security situation. #OSCE2021SWE
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The
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Who knows just maybe Russia is telling the truth and the West is making it all up...no idea. Just watching like everyone else. Russia spy chief says Ukraine invasion plan 'malicious' U.S. propaganda Russia spy chief says Ukraine invasion plan 'malicious' U.S. propaganda
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Who knows just maybe Russia is telling the truth and the West is making it all up...no idea. Just watching like everyone else. Russia spy chief says Ukraine invasion plan 'malicious' U.S. propaganda Russia spy chief says Ukraine invasion plan 'malicious' U.S. propaganda
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now attacking the village of Staromikhaylovka using small arms. Information about the destruction and casualties has not yet been clarified. #Donbass
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now attacking the village of Staromikhaylovka using small arms. Information about the destruction and casualties has not yet been clarified. #Donbass
Thanks for these posts. Any time we have this type of activity it could spark off the real fighting.
AlfaMan
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Sounds like 152mm artillery. D-30's?
This was sent in about 8am eastern time.
It looks like snow hasn't started falling, but the weather is steadily heading downhill. If the Russians do decide to invade (on a quick snatch and grab of one or two cities, then hold) they will need to do it soon. Russian mud is much like Russian snow to advancing forces-it slows down troops and vehicles pretty quick.
Here's the 10 day weather forecast for Luhansk. Russians if they decide to move best do it in the next week. After that cold and snow start entering the picture.
Luhansk, Luhansk, Ukraine 10-Day Weather Forecast - The Weather Channel | Weather.com
Why indeed.
Maybe it doesn't fit the Russian aggression narrative.
Russia has already said that they would move in Ukraine by using their air forces. In that case, it would be best to move after snow starts. That would impede Ukraine forces.
AlfaMan
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Whoa!
I just went onto the Kiev Post website. Apparently the newspaper has been shut down. At either Ukranian govt. insistence OR some behind the scenes finagling. This is odd, the paper has been going since independence. I'll post a link to the article, then one comment left by one of the writers for the paper.
It all seems very odd.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/kyiv-post-closes-on-nov-8-for-a-short-time.html
George Woloshyn
The independent Kyiv Post has ceased to exist today, after 26 years.
On the morning of Nov. 8, the paper’s employees came to the office only to be notified that they were all being fired, effective immediately.
Three weeks ago, the Kyiv Post’s owner, Odesa construction tycoon Adnan Kivan, had other plans: To expand the Kyiv Post and launch a Ukrainian-language outlet under the paper’s brand. At the time, this news, as well as the appointment of a hand-picked chief editor to head this new section, were a total surprise to the newsroom.
We saw significant risks in the expansion format chosen by Mr. Kivan. We also saw it as an attempt to infringe on our editorial independence.
The newsroom’s attempt to save the editorial independence of the Kyiv Post elicited opposition from our owner.
We consider the cessation of publication and the dismissal of the paper’s staff to be an act of vengeance by Adnan Kivan. He has officially announced plans to “reorganize” the Kyiv Post and to restart operations in a month with a new team.
We see this as the owner getting rid of inconvenient, fair, and honest journalists.
The Kyiv Post has been the international community’s primary source of news about Ukraine for the last 26 years.
We have exemplified high professional and ethical standards. That is why every president and government in Ukraine’s history attempted to influence the Kyiv Post.
However, even under all this pressure, none of our owners went so far as to shut down the paper. Adnan Kivan himself promised to protect our editorial independence when he bought the Kyiv Post in 2018.
“I highly value the work of Kyiv Post journalists and intend to preserve editorial independence,” Kivan said at the time.
Today, we asked him to sell the paper or to hand over the Kyiv Post trademark to the newsroom. He did not agree.
We call upon our readers and advertisers, businessmen, diplomats, international organizations, and everyone else who believes in independent journalism to support us.
The Kyiv Post newsroom
And another, more telling comment.
3:34 pmNovember 15, 2021George Woloshyn
As had been predicted by many, we are now learning a bit more as to why the KP may have been "temporarily" closed.
As per: На Kyiv Post тиснули генпрокурорка та член політради “слуг” – журналістка
it appears that Prosecutor General, Iryna Venidektova, had been pressuring Brian Bonner and the KP for over a year because of some unfavorable statements the paper published concerning her effectiveness in the position to which she was appointed. Her office began to investigate Mr. Kivan's business dealings. Mrs. Venidektova (whose only qualifications for the position she held was her complete loyalty to Pres. Z) had even summoned Brian to her office threatening a lawsuit.
So there you have it, folks. Mrs. V has recently been reassigned, but not before she was "effective" in abusing her position to cause Mr. Kivan to remove the offending mirror on the wall.
I just went onto the Kiev Post website. Apparently the newspaper has been shut down. At either Ukranian govt. insistence OR some behind the scenes finagling. This is odd, the paper has been going since independence. I'll post a link to the article, then one comment left by one of the writers for the paper.
It all seems very odd.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/kyiv-post-closes-on-nov-8-for-a-short-time.html
George Woloshyn
The independent Kyiv Post has ceased to exist today, after 26 years.
On the morning of Nov. 8, the paper’s employees came to the office only to be notified that they were all being fired, effective immediately.
Three weeks ago, the Kyiv Post’s owner, Odesa construction tycoon Adnan Kivan, had other plans: To expand the Kyiv Post and launch a Ukrainian-language outlet under the paper’s brand. At the time, this news, as well as the appointment of a hand-picked chief editor to head this new section, were a total surprise to the newsroom.
We saw significant risks in the expansion format chosen by Mr. Kivan. We also saw it as an attempt to infringe on our editorial independence.
The newsroom’s attempt to save the editorial independence of the Kyiv Post elicited opposition from our owner.
We consider the cessation of publication and the dismissal of the paper’s staff to be an act of vengeance by Adnan Kivan. He has officially announced plans to “reorganize” the Kyiv Post and to restart operations in a month with a new team.
We see this as the owner getting rid of inconvenient, fair, and honest journalists.
The Kyiv Post has been the international community’s primary source of news about Ukraine for the last 26 years.
We have exemplified high professional and ethical standards. That is why every president and government in Ukraine’s history attempted to influence the Kyiv Post.
However, even under all this pressure, none of our owners went so far as to shut down the paper. Adnan Kivan himself promised to protect our editorial independence when he bought the Kyiv Post in 2018.
“I highly value the work of Kyiv Post journalists and intend to preserve editorial independence,” Kivan said at the time.
Today, we asked him to sell the paper or to hand over the Kyiv Post trademark to the newsroom. He did not agree.
We call upon our readers and advertisers, businessmen, diplomats, international organizations, and everyone else who believes in independent journalism to support us.
The Kyiv Post newsroom
And another, more telling comment.
3:34 pmNovember 15, 2021George Woloshyn
As had been predicted by many, we are now learning a bit more as to why the KP may have been "temporarily" closed.
As per: На Kyiv Post тиснули генпрокурорка та член політради “слуг” – журналістка
it appears that Prosecutor General, Iryna Venidektova, had been pressuring Brian Bonner and the KP for over a year because of some unfavorable statements the paper published concerning her effectiveness in the position to which she was appointed. Her office began to investigate Mr. Kivan's business dealings. Mrs. Venidektova (whose only qualifications for the position she held was her complete loyalty to Pres. Z) had even summoned Brian to her office threatening a lawsuit.
So there you have it, folks. Mrs. V has recently been reassigned, but not before she was "effective" in abusing her position to cause Mr. Kivan to remove the offending mirror on the wall.
1-12020
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Hear the beep near the end.
Sounds like a handheld radio beep.
danielboon
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nice catch it does
AlfaMan
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That doesn't look like air forces going in to attack Ukraine. It looks like components of a combined arms army.
1-12020
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Of all the times we get the "fuel up now"... "get what your need now",
this might be one of those times where we might really have to pull the trigger on the last min top off items.
The probability of this coupled with Taiwan and Iran...
oh and don't forget the new covid garbage / smallpocks monkey...
this might be a real, go time?
Just saying.
this might be one of those times where we might really have to pull the trigger on the last min top off items.
The probability of this coupled with Taiwan and Iran...
oh and don't forget the new covid garbage / smallpocks monkey...
this might be a real, go time?
Just saying.
OldAndCrazy
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If you're not at your BOL you should be or getting there soon. And plan for a long stay.
correction ---'russian speakers', as it was explained to me.
he compared the russian speaking enclaves to Puerto rican neighborhoods in nyc, or mexican speaking neighborhoods in Ca or Tx. who might loyalty have to the US and not mexico.
he was very precise and clear in explaining this.
jward
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World
Russia's Military Buildup Next to Ukraine May Force Joe Biden's Hand
By Brendan Cole On 11/27/21 at 1:15 PM EST
Psaki Says White House 'Condemn Russian Aggression Towards Ukraine'
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World Russia Ukraine Joe Biden Vladimir Putin
The buildup of Russian troops along Ukraine's border is a growing concern for the international community and is posing an ever trickier foreign policy problem for President Joe Biden.
With Russian tanks moving west towards Ukraine months after a similar buildup caused outrage, NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned Moscow on Friday of the risk of "miscalculation."
The same day Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told reporters that his country was "entirely prepared for an escalation." He also said he had information that a "coup d'etat will take place in our country."
While light on details and not accusing the Russian government itself, nor directly referring to the build-up, Zelenskiy was specific enough to say the coup would take place on December 1 and 2 involving Russian and Ukrainian "representatives." The Kremlin dismissed Zelenskiy's claims.
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Ukrainian servicemen in military exercises with the United States and other NATO countries near Lviv, Ukraine, on September 24, 2021. Ukraine wants NATO membership to counter the threat of Russia. YURIY DYACHYSHYN/Getty
Zelenskiy's accusations have raised the temperature and come ahead of the U.S-led virtual Summit for Democracy to be held on December 9 and 10.
A virtual meeting between Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected before the end of the year that will test the results of their summit in June. Since then, Kyiv has been ramping up its pleas to join NATO to curb the threat of Moscow.
"Politically not all NATO member states are ready for that and we know that Russia is instrumentalizing it to draw red lines, and further increase pressure on the west not to help Ukraine," said Iulia Joja, director and senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, and adjunct professor at Georgetown University.
"This also brings us into this difficult cycle of NATO membership, with Russia saying that 'this is a red line' and the United States having a problematic history over the last few years of red lines," she told Newsweek.
"It is a conundrum in which the Biden administration is in right now," she said, as the U.S balances how "to help Ukraine in real terms and make a difference on the ground, without inadvertently escalating a response from Russia."
Read more
The pact struck in September also increased U.S. military assistance to about $400 million in 2022 but there are calls from Capitol Hill for more.
"The question in the relationship between Ukraine and Russia and the United States is what the United States can do more to help, Joja said, "certainly there is more need for military equipment."
Senators Rob Portman(R-OH), a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) want to increase Pentagon funding to Ukraine by another $50 million as part of annual defense policy legislation.
When asked about the prospect of further U.S. military support, Price said: "We don't have anything to announce or preview at this time."
Price also summed up the international community's view about the buildup which by Kyiv's estimate, consists of 92,000 troops.
"We don't know Russia's intentions," he told reporters, "we don't know precisely what Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin might be planning."
President Joe Biden at Eisenhower Executive Office Building on November 23, 2021 in Washington, DC. He faces pressure to act amid Russia's military build-up along its border with Ukraine. Alex Wong/Getty
Moscow has dismissed claims it plans to invade Ukraine and has spent much of the last few months accusing NATO of provocations amid alliance military exercises in the Black Sea it considers its backyard.
In any case, doubt reigns over the wisdom of Russia openly entering and escalating the nearly eight-year conflict in which 13,000 people have died in eastern Ukraine, where Moscow is condemned for backing separatist forces but denies any role.
In commemorating the Holodomor famine in Ukraine of the early 1930s, Biden this week reiterated the U.S.'s "unwavering support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine." But the Biden administration might be wary of giving Kyiv further commitments that if it did not defend, might make the U.S. look weak.
"U.S. options range between doing nothing to threatening to increase deliveries of lethal weaponry to Ukraine and imposing additional sanctions on Russia," said John Lough, associate fellow of the Russia and Eurasia Programme at London's Chatham House think tank.
"The Biden administration appears to be waking up to the fact that Ukraine is unfinished business for Russia and that it sees an opportunity to redefine the balance of power in Europe by insisting on Ukraine being part of its sphere of influence," he told Newsweek.
"Putin wants to show Kyiv that Ukraine is more important to Russia than to its western partners. The challenge for the U.S. is to show that Ukraine will not be on its own if the tensions increase."
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Russia's Military Buildup Next to Ukraine May Force Joe Biden's Hand
By Brendan Cole On 11/27/21 at 1:15 PM EST
Psaki Says White House 'Condemn Russian Aggression Towards Ukraine'
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The buildup of Russian troops along Ukraine's border is a growing concern for the international community and is posing an ever trickier foreign policy problem for President Joe Biden.
With Russian tanks moving west towards Ukraine months after a similar buildup caused outrage, NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned Moscow on Friday of the risk of "miscalculation."
The same day Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told reporters that his country was "entirely prepared for an escalation." He also said he had information that a "coup d'etat will take place in our country."
While light on details and not accusing the Russian government itself, nor directly referring to the build-up, Zelenskiy was specific enough to say the coup would take place on December 1 and 2 involving Russian and Ukrainian "representatives." The Kremlin dismissed Zelenskiy's claims.
Newsweek Newsletter sign-up >
Ukrainian servicemen in military exercises with the United States and other NATO countries near Lviv, Ukraine, on September 24, 2021. Ukraine wants NATO membership to counter the threat of Russia. YURIY DYACHYSHYN/Getty
Zelenskiy's accusations have raised the temperature and come ahead of the U.S-led virtual Summit for Democracy to be held on December 9 and 10.
A virtual meeting between Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected before the end of the year that will test the results of their summit in June. Since then, Kyiv has been ramping up its pleas to join NATO to curb the threat of Moscow.
"Politically not all NATO member states are ready for that and we know that Russia is instrumentalizing it to draw red lines, and further increase pressure on the west not to help Ukraine," said Iulia Joja, director and senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, and adjunct professor at Georgetown University.
"This also brings us into this difficult cycle of NATO membership, with Russia saying that 'this is a red line' and the United States having a problematic history over the last few years of red lines," she told Newsweek.
"It is a conundrum in which the Biden administration is in right now," she said, as the U.S balances how "to help Ukraine in real terms and make a difference on the ground, without inadvertently escalating a response from Russia."
Read more
- Ukraine President Warns of Planned Coup Involving Russians
- Kremlin Accuses U.S. of 'Absolute Lies' of Russian Troops at Ukraine Border
- Don't Give Ukraine a U.S. Security Guarantee
- Kremlin Slams U.S. Bid Not to Recognize Putin as President After 2024
The pact struck in September also increased U.S. military assistance to about $400 million in 2022 but there are calls from Capitol Hill for more.
"The question in the relationship between Ukraine and Russia and the United States is what the United States can do more to help, Joja said, "certainly there is more need for military equipment."
Senators Rob Portman(R-OH), a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) want to increase Pentagon funding to Ukraine by another $50 million as part of annual defense policy legislation.
When asked about the prospect of further U.S. military support, Price said: "We don't have anything to announce or preview at this time."
Price also summed up the international community's view about the buildup which by Kyiv's estimate, consists of 92,000 troops.
"We don't know Russia's intentions," he told reporters, "we don't know precisely what Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin might be planning."
President Joe Biden at Eisenhower Executive Office Building on November 23, 2021 in Washington, DC. He faces pressure to act amid Russia's military build-up along its border with Ukraine. Alex Wong/Getty
Moscow has dismissed claims it plans to invade Ukraine and has spent much of the last few months accusing NATO of provocations amid alliance military exercises in the Black Sea it considers its backyard.
In any case, doubt reigns over the wisdom of Russia openly entering and escalating the nearly eight-year conflict in which 13,000 people have died in eastern Ukraine, where Moscow is condemned for backing separatist forces but denies any role.
In commemorating the Holodomor famine in Ukraine of the early 1930s, Biden this week reiterated the U.S.'s "unwavering support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine." But the Biden administration might be wary of giving Kyiv further commitments that if it did not defend, might make the U.S. look weak.
"U.S. options range between doing nothing to threatening to increase deliveries of lethal weaponry to Ukraine and imposing additional sanctions on Russia," said John Lough, associate fellow of the Russia and Eurasia Programme at London's Chatham House think tank.
"The Biden administration appears to be waking up to the fact that Ukraine is unfinished business for Russia and that it sees an opportunity to redefine the balance of power in Europe by insisting on Ukraine being part of its sphere of influence," he told Newsweek.
"Putin wants to show Kyiv that Ukraine is more important to Russia than to its western partners. The challenge for the U.S. is to show that Ukraine will not be on its own if the tensions increase."
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Russia's Military Buildup Next to Ukraine May Force Joe Biden's Hand
NATO has asked Russia to "reduce tensions and de-escalate" as Kyiv increases its calls to join the U.S-led alliance to counter the threat from Moscow.
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danielboon
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Always glad to hear from you what are you hearing?
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YT video southernprepper1 1:34 runtime
States in the video the Russians have put their Pacific fleet subs out to sea.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy-nSUs2UWo
States in the video the Russians have put their Pacific fleet subs out to sea.
danielboon
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The Russian president began to speak to the Chinese one. "I will give you the land with all the people, but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. Do not fear, we will attack them from behind."
A voice said to me, "Watch where the Russians penetrate America."
I saw these words being written: Alaska; Minnesota; Florida. " Dumitri Duduman"
Grumphau
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It seems like Minnesota is kind of an odd place being in Central North America but who knows.
When Russia sorties it’s boomers, it’s an element for concern. Given the improvements to their subs, as well as the evolution of their sub launched missiles, the Bear has sharpened it’s claws. When outside, and internal stresses become too much for the Bear, war is a valid way to divert the attentions of their own populace. If internal stresses are a result of internal politics, danger is at its greatest. We are now nearing a potential time of extreme danger, where ANY side or adversary, or even an internal, rogue element, could trigger a nuclear Holocaust. Therefore, ALL potential adversaries must be aware of those potentialities.
Prepare as if there is no tomorrow, trust only those you really know, and beware all those who benefit from your diminution or death. Tomorrow is never guaranteed- only death and taxes…
OA
Prepare as if there is no tomorrow, trust only those you really know, and beware all those who benefit from your diminution or death. Tomorrow is never guaranteed- only death and taxes…
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TheChrome
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Is that like the Russian report that Ukraine has said there is "no sign of Russian troops" on the border just a few days ago?
Ukraine Border Service Says No Sign of Russian Troops - The Moscow Times
According to the report:
You pretty much can't believe anything the Russian government says, because they usually do exactly the opposite.
Marthanoir
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wait isn't that proof that Biden is a Russian plant????
well , that certainly is nice to know. after jan 30.
jward
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Update: Ambassador of Russia to the United Kingdom Andrei Kelin: Warned that further reinforcement of Nato forces in Ukraine would be interpreted as “a threat to invade Russia.” He accused Britain of “stepping closer and closer” to Russia’s borders.
"The decision by the UK Defense secretary, Ben Wallace, last week to move an armored brigade back to Germany in response to increased Russian aggression sparked anger in Moscow."
"We have lots of manoeuvring now in the Baltic Sea. We have strategic aviation, with nuclear warheads, flying 20km close to the borders.”
“There is a possibility that there is a spark and an incident can occur. Nato is stepping up its presence along the borders of the Russian federation."
phloydius
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As far as I can tell, the original source for this revelation is Pravda.
Doughboy42
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Maskirovka