ALERT Regional middleast war thread Israel and Iran at war

summerthyme

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Am I hearing this right? This is not Babylon Bee?

How the heck does-----(splutterchokesplutter)

Biden is trying to blame TRUMP (?!?) for what's going on in Israel?

It's only the Accords he negotiated that are giving Israel ANY allies in the area--otherwise she'd be under attack from all sides.
It was from 2020

Summerthyme
 

WTSR

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The slow moving drones were used as a harassing force, it required a massive response in Aircraft and missiles to be utilized. The ballistic missiles appear to have been mostly successful and only a limited number were targeting military sites. Just like in Ukraine those cheap drones require a response, so 200 cheap drones cost Iran maybe 1,000,000 bucks? How much fuel and missiles did Israel burn through?
 

Lilbitsnana

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BREAKING: NBC News reports that 'President Joe Biden has privately expressed concern that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. more deeply into a broader conflict'

9:06 PM · Apr 13, 2024
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And Bibi is thinking how if that damn idiot or evil Biden hadn't enriched Iran again and looked the other way and ho hummed around as they increase their weaponry and nuke capabilities, none of this would be happening.
 

Mac

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The Spectator Index
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BREAKING: NBC News reports that 'President Joe Biden has privately expressed concern that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. more deeply into a broader conflict'

9:06 PM · Apr 13, 2024
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Cuz it's all about Joe, ya know
 

jward

passin' thru
zerohedge
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Iran's attacks on Israel appear to have been performative, said Michael Singh, fmr sr director for Middle East affairs at the National Security Council. This was "a slow-moving, thoroughly telegraphed, and ultimately unsuccessful retaliation" - WSJ

Translation: one giant theater

8:52 PM · Apr 13, 2024
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WTSR

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I'm reading that the slowest drones are still on their way whatever is left of them that haven't been shot down yet. Will still require a response to deal them by Israel. I think the attack is about what I expected in that it was a lot of fireworks but not a lot of substantial damage which is I think what ultimately we all wanted now it's left to see if Israel will retaliate directly on Iran and then we'll see what comes with that.
 

Squid

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Because so many outside countries helped defend Israel, Bibi needs to take the other countries into account.

Remember many parts of the current government is controlled by Obama, and Obama doesn’t want his spiritual allies in Tehran hit, or severely militarily damaged. So we know many in our current demo controlled government is allied with Iran.

Israel although pressured by many outside forces, holds the keys to whether this is contained over the weekend or starts dominoes falling.

I think we may currently be 60 to 40 contained versus yhugge mess.

A misstep any party in the region can tip this in a moment.
 

TheHippie

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zerohedge
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Iran's attacks on Israel appear to have been performative, said Michael Singh, fmr sr director for Middle East affairs at the National Security Council. This was "a slow-moving, thoroughly telegraphed, and ultimately unsuccessful retaliation" - WSJ

Translation: one giant theater

8:52 PM · Apr 13, 2024
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This is what I have been wondering, why the theatrics? Seems pointless for the Iranians to act this way….
 

ArisenCarcass

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Israel has drones too. They're invisible on radar, a little larger and carry 2,000 lb bombs.
Doubt.
Nothing, NOTHING is invisible on modern multi-band radar.
It may be a --little-- longer to see, but it will be seen LOOOOOONG before it gets where it is going.
That goes for ALL (public domain revealed) stealth.

The ONLY real stealth is to operate above the range of typical radars (edge of space flight).
 

WOS

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Maybe related, maybe not.....


DEVELOPING: Alarms Blare at U.S. Embassy in Erbil, Iraq Amid Explosions Near Diplomatic and Coalition Sites​

By Jim Hᴏft Apr. 13, 2024 6:40 pm103 Comments

Alarms have been set off at the U.S. Embassy in Erbil, Iraq following a series of loud explosions in close proximity to the compound, which also houses facilities used by the international coalition.
Rody Sher, the Interim Editor in Chief at ACI MENA News, was among the first to report on the unfolding events.
“U.S. Embassy in Erbil activates alarm following loud explosions near embassy and international coalition facilities,” Sher reported.

#BREAKING | U.S. Embassy in Erbil activates alarm following loud explosions near embassy and international coalition facilities. Updates to follow. #Erbil #USembassy
— Rody Sher (@ZaainAnwer) April 13, 2024

Multiple additional explosions were reported near the U.S. Embassy and the sites associated with the international coalition forces. The nature and cause of these explosions are yet to be confirmed, but the reports suggest an ongoing security incident that has put the region on high alert.
#UPDATE: Multiple additional loud explosions reported in the vicinity of the U.S. Embassy and international coalition facilities in Erbil. Situation is ongoing. #Erbil #USembassy
— Rody Sher (@ZaainAnwer) April 13, 2024

DEVELOPING…
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
Doubt.
Nothing, NOTHING is invisible on modern multi-band radar.
It may be a --little-- longer to see, but it will be seen LOOOOOONG before it gets where it is going.
That goes for ALL (public domain revealed) stealth.

The ONLY real stealth is to operate above the range of typical radars (edge of space flight).
I believe energy wave's reference was to Israel's fleet of F-35's.

Recall the famous IDF F-35 pilot's selfie, obviously taken in the cockpit, directly over Tehran... It was a gigantic "F you/we own you" to Iran.
 

OldArcher

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This is what I have been wondering, why the theatrics? Seems pointless for the Iranians to act this way….
Iran’s actions today were not retaliation against Israel, but for their, Iran’s, public’s consumption. They have to be seen attacking the Little Satan, Israel. Too, if their plan succeeded, Israel knows this, and THEIR response won’t be so cataclysmic. Time will pass, and hopefully, we shall see- without blinding, strobing, actinic flashes…

OA
 

jward

passin' thru
This is what I have been wondering, why the theatrics? Seems pointless for the Iranians to act this way….
It was either a genuine, face savign deescalation measure designed to put paid to the incident and give everyone an off ramp, or a big hunk o' cheese in a steel trap, designed to lure israel into a major retailiation so the party could get started for realz, and Iran would have the plausible deniability of saying hey, we were tempered and we tried to be statesmenlike and measured in response- the ensuing end of the world was all on Israel, they chose the road.

MOWO
 

Bubble Head

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What air to air missile is used to shoot down a drone and what do they cost? Should Israel send a flight of in kind drones to Iran I seriously doubt Iran has the defense capability to respond. They have spent their money on hitting Israel not defending themselves from them.
 

WildDaisy

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Johnny Twoguns

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Don’t believe it without a lot more evidence
Yes. It is looking now like it was a VERY limited strike. If there are no follow ups it wasn't a 'serious' attack at all, unless the only real goal was to deplete munitions and judge the response capabilities AND see which other countries helped defend Israel.

If Israel responds in a big way as I expect they will then Iran was trying to climb up the escalation ladder. That won't work in this case and it will probably escalate into all or nothing.

If the Israeli response is limited, then ...... well then I think it was coordinated from the start. Time will tell. Regardless the "markets" will be crazy this next week.
 

jward

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Liz Friden
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NEW: The U.S. has shot down approximately 70 Iranian drones and multiple ballistic missiles. U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force assets were used in intercepting these Iranian missiles and drones, U.S. officials tell Fox News.
10:36 PM · Apr 13, 2024
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Iran International English
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#BREAKING The US will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran, US President Joe Biden has made clear to Israeli PM @Netanyahu, a senior administration official told CNN.

The comments were relayed during the phone call that the two leaders shared in the aftermath of Iran's retaliatory strikes against Israel.
 

ArisenCarcass

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I believe energy wave's reference was to Israel's fleet of F-35's.

Recall the famous IDF F-35 pilot's selfie, obviously taken in the cockpit, directly over Tehran... It was a gigantic "F you/we own you" to Iran.
I honestly didn't see that, but my thoughts:
If you'd have said that they had some new stealth plane, I'd have said maybe.
When you said that it was an F-35, I immediately thought "probably a BS propaganda photo."
The F-35 is a turd, and if Iran can't see it, then Israel might as well be fighting goat herders and saying it is a fair fight.
 

Zoner

Veteran Member
This war has only begun. Where are the Israeli injuries and deaths??? From where I sit, Iran was only testing Israeli defenses. I was reading Martin Armstrong's private blog and he said the same thing and expects the real war to begin by May 7, according to his computer, Socrates.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
Yes. It is looking now like it was a VERY limited strike. If there are no follow ups it wasn't a 'serious' attack at all, unless the only real goal was to deplete munitions and judge the response capabilities AND see which other countries helped defend Israel.

If Israel responds in a big way as I expect they will then Iran was trying to climb up the escalation ladder. That won't work in this case and it will probably escalate into all or nothing.

If the Israeli response is limited, then ...... well then I think it was coordinated from the start. Time will tell. Regardless the "markets" will be crazy this next week.
It was in no way "limited". They fired hundreds of drones to divert, distract and use up ammo and then followed it by missiles.

This was a huge win for Israeli defense systems. The only damage they are reporting is minor damage to a military installation in the South and a young girl that got hit by shrapnel from a destroyed missile in the North.

Dont diminsh what Israel just did because they succeeded and nothing got through. On top of the Israel defense win, it was a win for working together with the US, UK, Jordan, UAE and France. That was never before heard of - two muslim countries ACTIVELY taking a roll is shooting down drones and missiles for ISRAEL! That's big.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
All proven fake.
I know there are several going around that were the fires in Chili and one was from wild fires in Texas that were being portrayed as if they were Israel.
What would one expect of a poster with the name of Shadi Qudaih? (Muslim/Arabic name)

I'd check outside the window before I believed such a poster telling me the daytime sky was blue....
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
It was in no way "limited". They fired hundreds of drones to divert, distract and use up ammo and then followed it by missiles.

This was a huge win for Israeli defense systems. The only damage they are reporting is minor damage to a military installation in the South and a young girl that got hit by shrapnel from a destroyed missile in the North.

Dont diminsh what Israel just did because they succeeded and nothing got through. On top of the Israel defense win, it was a win for working together with the US, UK, Jordan, UAE and France. That was never before heard of - two muslim countries ACTIVELY taking a roll is shooting down drones and missiles for ISRAEL! That's big.
Hezbollah itself is supposed to have over a 100,000 including precision missiles. Iran, crap, they had a hundred thousand over 10 years ago. I'll stick by my supposition. This was a VERY limited strike; sending a message and testing defense capabilities of a continuous attack if it kept up. Less than 500 when they have an arsenal of 100,000 minimum? Very limited.
 
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