ALERT Regional middleast war thread Israel and Iran at war

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Israel Radar
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IDF started to elevate readiness for large assault on Rafah in past 12 hours; army mobilizes more artillery, armored vehicles, mobile command centers; defense minister & IDF chief approve blueprint of planned operation. via @WallaNews
 
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Arab Officials have stated that Israel assured them and other Middle Eastern Countries today that their Retaliatory Strike against Iran for Saturday Night’s Attack wouldn’t Endanger Regional Security and would likely be Limited in Scope, with Israel stating that they would also likely Warn their Regional Allies before a Strike against Iran were to occur.
 
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Millwright said:
When you start sniping at each other like this, it irritates the hell out of staff.
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..as well as those o' us who're still working one-two-or even more jobs, yet take our time and energy to share news, only to either have to wade through the nonsense, or worse yet, risk our work/threads being closed completely,or sent elsewhere because people choose to think they are somehow spechual cats and they are somehow exempt from the rules and requests of the site owner.

Remember, dennis actually loses money/funding when he makes sure that there are places to discuss the woo and religious aspects of currant topics- people see that the info is presented in triplicate and figure there is ample funding- yet he still provides that to his members. And, too often instead of respecting his requests as the "home owner" like a gracious adult party guest, or staying out of his home altogether like mature folks should do if they cannot abide the rules under his roof, people act like spoiled teens, mumbling and complaining and constantly pushing the envelop. : (

Anyway- thanks go out to the moderators, who once again have taken their precious time and energy to clean up messes.
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Yashar Ali
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This is incredibly unusual…

Iranian media is reporting that the Swiss Ambassador to Iran was summoned so that she could be warned about the consequences of a potential Israeli military strike and US involvement in such a strike.

However, the ambassador was not summoned to the foreign ministry; instead, she was summoned to the IRGC.

Summoning is a formal diplomatic tool that allows a host country to express a strong objection about a matter to a foreign diplomat.

I don't remember when a foreign diplomat in any country was summoned anywhere else but the host country's foreign ministry, much less the IRGC.
 
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Ian Ellis
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Quite the deployment for USS Carney & Sailors

Heading home after 5 months in the Red Sea & at a port visit in Palermo, Italy, then had to race back to the eastern Med for the defense of Israel—shooting down Iranian ballistic missiles. Also:

- First to engage Houthi missiles & drones on 19 October
- Fired SM-3 missiles to intercept ballistic missiles for the first time in combat
- Featured on national TV during the Army-Navy game with an undefeated 22-0 intercept record (final: ~42-0)
- Chopped into U.S 5th Fleet 18 October 2023; transited the Suez northbound 6 April 2024; port visit in Italy on 10 April; back toward the coast of Israel 12-13 April
 
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jward said:
OSINTdefender
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Arab Officials have stated that Israel assured them and other Middle Eastern Countries today that their Retaliatory Strike against Iran for Saturday Night’s Attack wouldn’t Endanger Regional Security and would likely be Limited in Scope, with Israel stating that they would also likely Warn their Regional Allies before a Strike against Iran were to occur.
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That is curious, and I would say very much out of 'character' for the Israeli State.
With the lack of a huge overwhelming response so far (not saying it won't happen, any ole' time) I've been wondering today, since the Sampson Option has bubbled up on Twitter, I was contemplating and wondering IF Iran gave, and Israel is taking it seriously enough to really slow things down, the Iranian version of it's "Sampson Option".
 
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It is very possible that they mean business. It is possible that unless some wonder weapon is used, Iran may launch a very significant missile attack, and then more until they can't launch any more, which may mean the end of modern Israel, and a massive hurt on OUR troops in the area. At this point of human and military history, I don't have the slightest idea of who has what we don't know about. I do know that usually in history, when some adversary comes up with a capability or "new" innovation the former current top dog hadn't confronted before, they often lost; even if it took some time. You can go back to WWII or WWI or all the way back to the Roman Empire facing huge armies based on horse archers against a foot army.

I just hope we don't go there.
 
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blueinterceptor said:
Israel hits back. Iran hits back from that. They trade blows back and forth. Neither will allow the other to be the last to hit.
Where does this end????
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Most likely in a fairly, maybe very, quick end. Israel has never messed around, they hit back and hard. This time Iran has directly shot back and in a very big way, and warns the next counter attack will be 100 to 1000 times bigger. Russia has said if the USA helps Israel attack Iran, they will intervene. Russia has said if the USA is involved directly in an attack on Russia, the USA WILL be hit. This could spiral out of all calculations and beyond any planning circles.

However, Isreal may have made some statements lately saying they will (may) respond in a reasoned way not to bring on a Regional War.

But who knows. The "press" has done nothing but lied to us for almost a decade now, total lies, not all gentle lies like before.
 
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Johnny Twoguns said:
Most likely in a fairly, maybe very, quick end. Israel has never messed around, they hit back and hard. This time Iran has directly shot back and in a very big way, and warns the next counter attack will be 100 to 1000 times bigger. Russia has said if the USA helps Israel attack Iran, they will intervene. Russia has said if the USA is involved directly in an attack on Russia, the USA WILL be hit. This could spiral out of all calculations and beyond any planning circles.

However, Isreal may have made some statements lately saying they will (may) respond in a reasoned way not to bring on a Regional War.

But who knows. The "press" has done nothing but lied to us for almost a decade now, total lies, not all gentle lies like before.
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I’ve read all of that. I know what Israel and Iran have said. When and if Israel does respond, Iran will insist that it will respond, just to “save face”, then Israel will respond, just to “save face”. This is going to keep going until someone drops on the mat.
 
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Yashar Ali
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This is incredibly unusual…

Iranian media is reporting that the Swiss Ambassador to Iran was summoned so that she could be warned about the consequences of a potential Israeli military strike and US involvement in such a strike.

However, the ambassador was not summoned to the foreign ministry; instead, she was summoned to the IRGC.

Summoning is a formal diplomatic tool that allows a host country to express a strong objection about a matter to a foreign diplomat.

I don't remember when a foreign diplomat in any country was summoned anywhere else but the host country's foreign ministry, much less the IRGC.
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Summoned to the IRGC HQ?.....Hummmmm....The implications of that are interesting and huge.....
 
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Guy Elster
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There are countless sanctions imposed on #Iran. The thought that a new round of them would deter Tehran is laughable

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It kind of depends on the sanctions. Russia is laughing at theirs.

But Trump had them on the ropes, and on their knees with his sanctions. Their economy was almost broken, and then Biden lifted them cuz like the children were starving. Mean ol' Trump. O and BTW here is all the money you had in the bank in Qatar. We're sorry. Just trying to correct mean ol Trump. Not our fault.
 
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Watch: Reporter Asks If Biden Should "Beef Up Iran Posture To Be More Than One Word"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, APR 17, 2024 - 05:30 AM
Authored by Steve Watson via Modernity.news,
Fox News reporter Peter Doocy again exposed the failings of the Biden Administration Monday when he asked White House National Security Communications Advisor John Kirby to explain how Biden can lead effectively when he’s constantly on the beach, whether he regrets unfreezing assets for Iran, and whether he should beef up his posture to more than the word “don’t”.

“Has President Biden considered maybe beefing up the public Iran posture to be more than just one word?” Doocy asked Kirby, who knew instantly what the reporter was referring to.
“You’re referring to, ‘don’t’?” Kirby responded.
“Don’t’ and they did it anyway,” Doocy fired back, adding “So, now what?”
OOF.

The most alarming thing about this is that it’s his posture on foreign policy in its entirely.


Doocy continued his line of questioning, asking “Now that we know that the Iranians do not listen to President Biden’s public warnings, is there any regret here about unfreezing billions of dollars for Iranian leaders during the President’s administration?”
Kirby incredibly responded “What unfreezing are you talking about?” as if he had no idea what Doocy was referring to, before going on to attempt to circumvent the issue with semantics.

As Charlie Kirk notes, this denial is on its face ridiculous when considering the timeline of facts:

Kirby also had no answer when Doocy asked why Biden had to return to DC from Delaware on Saturday, despite the fact that his handlers are always saying he can “work from anywhere,” as a way of justifying his constant beach vacations.

This all comes on the heels of revelations that Biden green lighted Iran’s attack and told Israel to “take the win,” of managing to shoot down the vast majority of missiles fired at them, without retaliating.

November 5th cannot come quickly enough, as Donald Trump pointed out at the weekend:

Watch: Reporter Asks If Biden Should "Beef Up Iran Posture To Be More Than One Word" | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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There is a bunch of tweets on the site in the tit for tat between Doocy and Kirby. And the billions Biden unfroze for Iran when he took office. What Billions?


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blueinterceptor said:
I’ve read all of that. I know what Israel and Iran have said. When and if Israel does respond, Iran will insist that it will respond, just to “save face”, then Israel will respond, just to “save face”. This is going to keep going until someone drops on the mat.
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... or the event venue is burned to the ground.
 
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Last Saturday afternoon, there was a post about an Air Force KC-135 refueling tanker aircraft declaring an emergency via its transponder code. Nothing else was ever said about that transponder code, or anything else that I've read about the aircraft and its mission instead.

Did anyone pick up a whiff or an update on this?
 
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Tigerlily said:
I can't believe Biden gave Iran permission to strike Israel!
And then we helped Israel shoot them down!
Talk about creating a war.
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It's called "The Rothchilds Tactic" (funding both sides of the war) In this case not much funding both sides but encouraging one side so the other side (US's MIC) can make money. Same principal, in effect in that it's about money.
 
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