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Dafodil

Veteran Member
Or the year before -I was sick with cold like flu for 6 weeks - all of my illnesses combined prior to that did not total 6 weeks.
I agree! Ive been sick since January! I have been hospitalized. I still have NO energy! My abdominal pain has been intense since the middle of May. Colonoscopy and visit with surgeon next week! Ive had 2 abdominal CT scans with varying results. I lost my sense of smell in February. Had fever in the hospital but they blew it off as an infection in my abdomen.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I also never said "Christians are being conditioned".

I call BS.

Conditioning for the coming system is not erroneous.

We are also being conditioned by having our foreheads scanned in order to enter places of business.
Don’t be a mealy mouth. Own what you write.

And there WILL BE NO RAPTURE. That is an erroneous interpretation.
 

biere

Veteran Member
2nd wave of wuflu scares me less than a 2nd wave of lockdowns and moronic elected goofs abusing their power.

I am expecting shortages and price jumps again and my issue is if it was just people buying it would work itself out but companies going out of business or running at half capacity cause of social distancing issues bothers me more than everyone suddenly wanting what I want in normal times.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I agree! Ive been sick since January! I have been hospitalized. I still have NO energy! My abdominal pain has been intense since the middle of May. Colonoscopy and visit with surgeon next week! Ive had 2 abdominal CT scans with varying results. I lost my sense of smell in February. Had fever in the hospital but they blew it off as an infection in my abdomen.

That loss of sense of smell is a dead ringer for Covid.
 

ambereyes

Veteran Member
No, sorry, I have to refute that. I've had many cold and flu events that have taken my sense of smell. Totally gone. Yes, it returned sometime later, but Covid is not exclusive with in that symptom.

I have allergies and sinus problems, loss of sense and smell is something that I usually have at least once a year during high pollen times.
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member

As Alabamians sleep on pavement for benefits, state unemployment fund runs low
Melissa Brown, Montgomery AdvertiserPublished 3:26 p.m. CT June 26, 2020 | Updated 11:30 p.m. CT June 29, 2020

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The Montgomery sky over the Alabama State University campus was rapidly developing from twilight blue to dusky navy when the rain began to fall on the two women.

The two pulled tote bags from their sedan before one shrugged into a yellow rain coat, stuffing her pockets with last-minute essentials. After one woman slung a folding chair over her shoulder, the two began their way toward the ASU Acadome, their heads bowed against a now-driving rain.

It was 8:30 p.m., and they were preparing to set up camp outside of Alabama's makeshift unemployment claims help center. It would be 12 hours until doors opened, and the two women weren't even the first in line when they arrived on the rainy Wednesday evening.

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A line of unemployed or underemployed Alabamians has formed in Montgomery parking lots for weeks, first at the Cramton Bowl and later at the ASU Acadome, with thousands of people huddling through the night in hopes of receiving their version of a Golden Ticket: a numbered spot in line to speak to one of a handful of Alabama Department of Labor employees in person.

For many, it’s a last-ditch to receive unemployment benefits when phone call lines remain jammed, benefits are frozen for obscure reason and savings run out, if they existed in the first place. Amid an unprecedented global pandemic, many Alabamians can't afford to lose the maximum $275 Alabama unemployment weekly benefit, or the $600 CARES federal subsidy that will end next month.

The Alabama Department of Labor has been, by all accounts, overwhelmed. The department has received 576,314 unemployment claims to date. The department is staffed enough to field less than 4% of the calls it receives per day, according to department estimates, and staff trained to legally handle unemployment claim issues are only based in Montgomery.

"Unfortunately, we urge patience. I know everyone has very little of it at this point," spokesperson Tara Hutchinson said. "We understand the frustration, the anger. We understand the questions."

The state unemployment fund is also on track for insolvency by the end of the summer. A department spokesperson confirmed to the Montgomery Advertiser on Thursday that, if trends continue, it will follow other states in borrowing from federal funds to stay afloat in one to two months.

Desperation in Montgomery is so high a black market system has emerged: A security guard on Thursday morning, shouting to the crowd, said anyone caught selling a ticket would be "prosecuted." One woman, who declined to give her name to the Montgomery Advertiser, confirmed she had been present on Tuesday and saw people bartering over ticket slots, asking $100 to $200 for the brightly colored rectangle that can get you through the Acadome doors.

Ten hours after the first people set up camp in a pouring rain, chaos descended on the steaming asphalt in front of the Acadome. Hundreds of people were awaiting in a long, quasi-socially distanced line when conflicting instructions from a security guard and staff caused a rush to a single file line in front of the door.

Shouting broke out among groups afraid people had cut in the line, a critical issue if there were more people than tickets that day. One man shouted at people to distance themselves due to coronavirus concerns, while another woman stood off to the side, nervously eyeing the line her husband, a kidney transplant recipient, was standing in.

"Let's get some respect and order," one staff member yelled over the crowd. "If there's going to be any sign of disorder, my order will be for everyone to go home." The security guard told people they had to raise their hand if they wanted to leave the line to go to the restroom.

"Please don't cut the line off," one woman pleaded. "We've been here since 3 this morning."

Victor Hogans, a former poultry plant worker who drove through the night from Dothan, tried to number people off in the line, in the hopes it would quell people's nerves. He was shouted down, but wasn't angry at the people around him.

"They're frustrated with their bills, caring for their kids. The coronavirus has gotten people messed up. People have to pay for medicine, they have to pay for food. They can't pay for their car bills, their cars are being repossessed. People can't get no help," Hogans said. "People have been let down and disappointed for so long. The people are frustrated. Many people had already had financial issues and problems, and now they really have problems. It's tearing families apart. People have been out here a long time. It causes your cup to runneth over, and it causes a domino effect."

Insolvency of Alabama unemployment fund
On March 18, days after the first coronavirus case was diagnosed in Alabama, Alabama's unemployment fund — funded through employer taxes paid in the first fiscal quarter — had a little over $704 million. By mid-May, an historic rush of unemployment claims had depleted its coffers to $490 million.

In the next four weeks, the fund paid out another $149 million. As of Friday, June 19, $341 million was left in the fund.

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“We expect this trust fund to remain solvent for anywhere for a month to two months,” said Tara Hutchinson, communications director at the Department of Labor. “Basically, every two weeks we’re paying a regular year’s worth of benefits.”

If current trends continue, the department does “expect the trust fund to become insolvent if that happens.”

The situation isn’t without precedent. California, Ohio and other states have already informed the federal government they will need to borrow to keep state funds afloat. Alabama did the same during the Great Recession, Hutchinson said.

Hutchinson said the department is receiving an "overwhelming" amount of calls per day, up to 210,000 a day with 300 people available to answer them. She said they can typically process 6,000 to 7,000 calls per day.

But nearly every person the Advertiser spoke to about their claims issue said it was impossible to get through on the phone system.

Harold, who formerly worked in transportation in Huntsville before work dried up in March, arrived at the Acadome around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday in Montgomery. He was one of the few who had been able to get through the phones to someone, but they said they couldn't find his claim, his name or social security number in the system.

"Which means when I applied, the system threw it out. I didn't know what to do," he said, when his wife looked online and decided they needed to travel to the department's Montgomery headquarters to get answers.

"I came up here this afternoon. And then they told me we'd have to stay the night," Harold said. He and his wife hadn't prepared for an overnight stay, but he got a hotel room for her and brought a chair out into the rain. "Sometimes we have no choice."

One of the earliest to arrive on Wednesday night, he got a coveted spot under a door covering.

"I had no idea I would be here. We were going to go back to Huntsville today, but I said no, we have to stay here," Harold said. "They made us stop working. And then people are saying we shouldn't get money because we're lazy. There's a disconnect there."

Sarah, a young hospitality worker from Birmingham, hesitated to give her last name to a reporter. "You already have to swallow your pride to sit out here," she said, sitting next to Harold. "I'm just a private person."

"You get on social media and people are bashing it. But they're only seeing one side of it. People who are seeking unemployment are not people who don't want to work."

Sarah wasn't new to the process on Wednesday. It was her third time waiting overnight to see a DOL worker.

The first time, she was No. 58 in line. There was a problem with her employer's filing that needed to be fixed.

The second time, she was No. 92. Something was wrong with her direct deposit, and she wasn't receiving her benefits.

The second time Sarah came, a worker inside the Acadome temporarily lost her paperwork, an experience Sarah found stressful and upsetting as a form with her social security and bank account information was floating around the room.

"I get that government workers are under a lot of stress," she said. "But these are people's livelihoods. That was my identity. There were only five workers inside."

On Wednesday, she was among the first 10 people waiting to get in.

"They don't keep the air on inside," she said of the process inside the Acadome. "It feels barbaric."

"So they're taking the pain, too?" Harold, overhearing, asks her of the workers.

"I hate it for them," Sarah said. "But at the same time, I hate it more for the people out here."

"They're paid to be in that unbearable situation," Harold said. "And we're trying to get the money that we're owed. It's more unbearable for us."

"You've been here three times?" Harold asked Sarah, who nodded. "Now I'm scared."

An 'unfriendly system' for Alabama unemployment
Hutchinson said Thursday 7 to 10 people are working the Acadome, and the department can't set up similar sites anywhere else because the staff, trained in certain unemployment law and procedures, are based in Montgomery.

The department has recently staffed up two additional call centers through a contractor, pulling back Alabama Department of Labor retirees and people from other states who have similar job training.

"The issue with increasing staffing is it's not as simple as going off the street and hiring someone," Hutchinson said. "If it was, I promise we would do it."

More than three months into the pandemic that brought the economy to a grinding halt, Hutchinson said the nature of the unemployment claims issues now are drastically different from initial problems.

There is a significant decline in new claims, she said, but the backlog of existing claims that have been tied up, for whatever reason, require a higher skillset to deal with. It's not a simple data entry problem. Much of their call volume is repeated calls over a single issue.

"Repeatedly calling all day long, it ties up the system," Hutchinson said. "Once people are able to get their information into the call back system, they need to stop calling us. We will return the call."

But the Advertiser has spoken to multiple people who have never received a call back or have found the system of online forms and confusing questions nearly impossible to navigate. Caine Clayton, who was laid off from a Birmingham-based marketing job in March, said he expected his claims to take a few weeks to process, given the volume of people flooding the system.

He immediately filed for unemployment, in what was initially a pain-free process online. As the current system works, Alabama requires you to file a claim, which must be approved, and then go back and file each individual week to receive benefits.

"After that, I still consistently logged online to check the status and there were no updates. I also called the 1-800 number on their site numerous times, but each time I never got a dial tone and was immediately met with an automated message indicating that they were essentially busy and for me to try back. A few weeks ago, a chat box appeared and I was able to submit a general email asking the status — never heard back," Clayton said.

Clayton found another job weeks after he was unemployed, but still hadn't received back pay. On June 20, he received a letter telling him he had a 10-day window to reply to an inquiry about his new employer. The letter provided him a number to call.

But Clayton said the letter was dated June 3, and he had missed the 10-day window to respond before the letter even got to him.

He's tried to call in anyway.

"Zero luck getting through," Clayton said. Due to his current schedule, driving to Montgomery in hopes of securing an in-person consult is out of the question.

Michael Forton, a lawyer and director of advocacy for Legal Services of Alabama (LSA), said navigating Alabama's unemployment system can be an "insurmountable task.

"They’ve set the system up as much as possible to be difficult," Forton said. "I think the system is designed to be unfriendly, and now they realize it should have been set up to be more friendly."

Forton said communications between LSA attorneys and others around the case well-versed in unemployment claims have stalled, and LSA has seen its unemployment claims caseload increase seven-fold year-over-year.

It's hit-and-miss whether you will or can file a claim, Forton said. A recent client "pushed the wrong button or key" on a filing and her claim was frozen. She drove several hours to Montgomery for help, but "she got there too late."

"If there is any sort of thing, the smallest problem, you can't get through," Forton said.

The Alabama Department of Labor maintains no one is required to travel to Montgomery to address their unemployment claims and it will honor backdated claims. But for many, driving to Montgomery seems to be the only option.

"Staff and people are sending mixed communications. It's in disarray," said Hogans, the Dothan poultry worker. "They're just sending people here, not communicating with each other.

On Wednesday night, facing 12 hours in a folding chair for the third time, Sarah tried to steel herself with perspective.

"I keep telling myself to be grateful during this process," Sarah said. "There are people who won't receive any benefits, for whatever reason, or they don't have as good of help (as I do.) Third time, whatever, people have it a lot harder. I try not to have a pity party."

The next morning, a group of women in ASU alumni shirts unloaded cases of water and packs of snacks into rolling wagons. They walked down the line, handing out oranges and drinks to people shaking off a few hours of damp sleep in the morning light. A handful of people had brought tents or chairs with head coverings, but many sat out in the elements all night with folding chairs. Some sat on the pavement. One woman appeared to have brought a step ladder to lean on until doors opened.

The group of women handing out breakfast shrugged off gratitude. They didn't want recognition, they'd just seen photos of the lines on social media and wanted to do what little they could for people in "impossible" circumstances.

As they packed up to leave, one woman surveyed the line, her brows knitted above a face mask.

"This is not how we are called to serve people," she said, shaking her head sadly.
This is going to hurt Trump’s black vote!
 

et2

TB Fanatic
Mask wearing is a precursor of the coming mark of the beast system. Currently, I cannot buy/sell without one.

Next is the vaccine.

Yes ... they’re conditioning us. They know we will cave in to save our lives. Nor will you be able to travel without accepting their demands.
 

et2

TB Fanatic
My two cents, there will be a new virus rolled out in October that will make the corona look like child's play. Corona is old news and people are burned out hearing about it (short attention spans and all that) so here comes something new and improved .

It will coincide with another major disaster, possibly natural/earth related (resulting in grid failure) and a big financial boom for some frosting on the cake.

If I'm the bad guys I'm pulling out all the stops in October. Election coming up, plus much of the US will be heading into winter. That will be the ideal time to strike.

Lol ... keep your two cents please
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
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So let’s first acknowledge those two things.

Now, here’s what’s important about that. Looking at historical trend analysis, which is fairly substantive, the second wave is always going to be worse than the first, not only in infection and fatality numbers but also in overall impact. ..........................

I read as far as the red lettering and knew this person has no clue what is going on. The mutations almost always come back weaker than the original virus.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Loss of smell is common in bad allergies. Loss of taste and smell is uncommon but happens in bad influenza.

It just happens to be very common in covid, even in mild cases. sometimes it's the only outward symptom.
 
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According to Dr. Bartlett, Japan, Taiwan and Singapore all have very low death rates, using a COVID-19 treatment similar to his recommended treatment.

Dr. Bartlett's Treatment Protocol

1) Inhaled steroid - Budesonide, sold under the brand name Pulmicort

2) Antibiotic - Clarithromycin, sold under the brand name Biaxin

3) Zinc

Good interview - Dr. Bartlett explains his experiences in treating COVID-19, the safety of the drugs that he is recommending, and how this recommended treatment protocol works.

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Zagdid

Veteran Member

United Says 36,000 Workers Could be Furloughed: Live Updates
Updated
July 8, 2020, 12:56 p.m. ET46 minutes ago

United Airlines said on Wednesday that it could furlough as many as 36,000 workers, or nearly 40 percent of its staff, starting Oct. 1 if travel remained weak and if enough employees did not accept buyout and early retirement packages.

Airlines have been warning workers for months that they could start making significant cuts once federal stimulus funds expire. United received about a fifth of the $25 billion Congress authorized in March to help airlines pay employees as long as the companies made no significant cuts through Sept. 30.

The Oct. 1 furloughs would include about 15,000 flight attendants, 11,000 customer service and gate agents, 5,500 maintenance employees, and 2,250 pilots, among others. Those numbers could ultimately be smaller if ticket sales pick up significantly or if many thousands of workers apply for reduced hours or voluntary leave before a mid-July deadline United has set for buyouts and early retirement packages, the airline said in a memo to its employees. United is also cutting almost a third of management and administrative employees.

“The United Airlines projected furlough numbers are a gut punch, but they are also the most honest assessment we’ve seen on the state of the industry,” said Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants union, which represents nearly 50,000 workers at 19 airlines, including United.

In a statement, Ms. Nelson called on Congress to extend the stimulus funding “to avoid hundreds of thousands of layoffs from an industry that normally drives economic activity.”

Most workers will know if they are being furloughed by the end of August. Most of those who are furloughed will be eligible to return to their jobs when air travel picks up.

While air travel had started to rebound after falling about 96 percent in April, the recovery has been choppy and is expected to remain uneven. On Tuesday, United announced that it was revising the August schedule it announced only last week because bookings had begun sliding again amid a surge in virus cases in the Sunbelt and after New York, New Jersey and Connecticut said they would require travelers from states with rising infection rates to quarantine themselves for two weeks.

On Tuesday, about 642,000 people went through federal airport security checkpoints, about a quarter of the foot traffic from the same time last year. — Niraj Chokshi
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

'A scary number' of retail companies are facing bankruptcy amid the coronavirus pandemic
Brian Sozzi Editor-at-Large Yahoo Finance July 8, 2020 (Updated)

And the retail death continues.

Long struggling, debt-laden Ascena retail is reportedly nearing a bankruptcy filing this week and plans to shut 1,200 of its 3,000 stores. The filing would follow years of aggressive, ill-timed acquisition by the company of mall-based apparel brands such as Ann Taylor. With the mall under severe stress during the COVID-19 pandemic, Ascena’s model has totally fallen apart.

Meanwhile, Brooks Brothers filed for bankruptcy on Wednesday. It has been dealt a twin blow to its finance from closed malls and a shift away from preppy clothing. And apparel company Lucky Brand Dungarees announced on July 3 that it is filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Indeed it has been a brutal few weeks for the stricken retail sector.

GNC has walked through death’s door after knocking on it for years. The 85-year-old vitamin seller filed for bankruptcy in late June after years of battling waning sales and a debt load north of $1 billion. GNC plans to shutter up to 1,200 stores across the U.S. The company operates more than 5,800 stores.

Meantime, fellow mismanaged mall dweller J.C. Penney said last month it will close another 13 stores as part of its recent bankruptcy filing. The company told the courts in May it would shutter a total of 250 stores by the end of summer 2021, leaving it with a shade under 600 locations.

To be sure, 2020 is shaping up to be one of the deadliest ever for the former icons of the mall and various shopping centers. The pandemic has kept stores closed for months and sent sales for the sector into a tailspin. With consumers only slowly venturing back out to stores after months of being quarantined, retailers are being faced with the reality they need fewer stores open...or should no longer be in business at all.

“Some companies are just not going to survive this,” says McGrail, who is the COO of one of the world’s largest asset disposition and valuation firms, Tiger Capital Group. Its McGrail’s team — which often includes store associates of a stricken retailer — that hangs the “Everything must go” signs and works to fetch top dollar on fixtures and other inventory.

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McGrail declines to say which retailers have been calling him up for asset appraisals, except to note the names wouldn’t be any big shock.

Such is the current life for McGrail and others in the retail bankruptcy and restructuring fields. In talking to a host of experts, one thing is abundantly clear: A thunderstorm of bankruptcies in retail are about to rain down on Wall Street thanks to the aftershock of the coronavirus.

Once formidable retailers such as Neiman Marcus (filed for bankruptcy in May) will either vanish entirely or emerge from bankruptcy with 75% smaller store networks. Those retailers that somehow manage to avoid bankruptcy by way of a creative debt raise or other restructuring will find the road ahead bumpy at best.

‘That’s a scary number’
While bankruptcies from Ascena and Brooks Brothers are headline makers, the fact is we haven’t seen a stronger uptick in bankruptcies just yet for several reasons, experts explain.

First, preparing for a structured entry into bankruptcy typically takes two to three weeks. Retailers were only thrust into mass social distancing driven store closures in mid- to late-March. Most held out hope they would reopen stores in April, which pushed off bankruptcy planning. Secondarily, even the worst positioned big name retailers still had enough cash on hand to move through April and May (especially with workers furloughed) — that allowed executives to consider all options besides a headline-grabbing bankruptcy.

And lastly, one of the benefits of a retailer filing for bankruptcy is to raise cash for creditors by holding store closing sales. That couldn’t happen with state mandated store closings.

Now all bets are off this summer as states allow malls and retailers to reopen.

“I think many of these companies will file [for bankruptcy], and it’s not a handful. It’s several dozen. And that’s a scary number. It’s far more than we have seen over the last several years combined,” says Stifel managing director Michael Kollender, who leads the consumer and retail investment banking group for the firm. Kollender and his colleague James Doak at Miller Buckfire (Stifel’s restructuring arm, where Doak is co-head) have worked on dozens of consumer and retail bankruptcies in recent years, including Aeropostale, Gymboree and Things Remembered.)

“We will see some major chains go away and not come back. These are chains that were struggling before the situation. COVID-19 will put them over the ledge,” Kollender adds. Doak thinks there will be numerous creative deals struck by retailers in a bid to stay afloat — for instance a mall owner takes a stake in an anchor tenant.

There is precedent here as it was a consortium of mall owners, Simon Property Group and General Growth Partners, that won the auction for Aeropostale’s assets in 2016. Both had an interest in keeping Aeropostale open as it had been an important traffic-driving (and rent-paying) tenant for years.

To Doak’s point, the creativity by retail executives looking for a lifeline are starting to emerge.

The aforementioned bankrupt J.C. Penney is rumored to be eyeing a sale to private equity shop Sycamore Partners, which has a long history of buying distressed retailers. J.C. Penney reportedly has also caught interest from a consortium of landlords Simon Property Group and Brookfield.

Macy’s essentially mortgaged its future with a recent $4.5 billion debt raise in a bid to survive the year.

It has only just begun
Most of the experts Yahoo Finance chatted up expect some degree of chaos to ensue as retailers reopen their stores this summer. It’s already unfolding by the looks of things.

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Thousands of stores across the country right now are sitting on badly aged inventory inside of their closed — or reopened — stores (see photo above). That dust-collecting stuff will have to be sold at fire-sale prices — the problem is that everyone in retail will be doing the same exact thing this summer, leaving retailers to earn a horrific return on that inventory investment.

Investors should expect sizable inventory write-downs for the second quarters and as one result, and chains may not be able to borrow as much as possible against their asset bases. That’s a terrible position to be in ahead of the high working capital period known as the holiday shopping season.

“I don’t think J.C. Penney has a long-term future. I’m not so sure whether Macy’s has a long-term future. I think the occupants of those B and C malls — the specialty stores that congregate the concourses that are increasingly vacant — may not have a future. We’re seeing an enormous number of store closings being announced and even from the successful chains like Zara,” said former Sears Canada CEO turn Columbia Business School professor Mark Cohen on Yahoo Finance’s The First Trade. “So I think the breakage will be extraordinary and we’re seeing the first signs of it.”

Meanwhile, store liquidations and their rock bottom prices for merchandise will pressure efforts by stronger chains to get their businesses going. That will make relatively strong retailers far less strong. For those retailers seeking to emerge from bankruptcy, vendors are likely to be tepid to ship them product while at the same time tightening payment terms. That one-two punch usually kills a wounded retailer for good.

Then there is the general uncertainty on how people will view going back to the mall in the new normal of social distancing. That fog of war is poised to persist well beyond the coming holiday season.

“We are in a retail tsunami,” Kollender says.

Tsunamis are destructive. And so will be the coronavirus to the nation’s retailers.

This story was originally published on June 24, 2020.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
Common sense needs to be applied as well as patience. I typically was shopping once a month and I pay attention so I did that monthly shopping a week ahead of the shutdown. Since the first of March I have shopped four times and each time I was mostly replacing what I used to keep my pantry at the same level. However, instead of going to a single grocery store I have to go to three or four due limits or empty shelves.

I'm being careful to stretch meat to several meals and not to waste anything. I put in a large garden but due to drought its not doing well but at least I tried. My grocery budget is $110 a month which is not going nearly as far due to price increases.
The only foods I've been unable to find anywhere online are freeze dried fruits. I typically use them in breakfast oatmeal and reorder once a year. I missed out on that by waiting until I'd opened the last cans. My solution is to buy more canned fruits and use those instead. I'm not sure how to calculate the amount needed so am adding a few extra cans each time I shop. I loath, distrust and absolutely hate that canned fruits all now come with pull tab tops which seem to lose their seal easily plus my arthritic hands find them nearly impossible to open. If you use pliers, the tab breaks and then you're out of luck, because you cannot use a can opener on them.

I am fortunate that I have only found one gap in my preps. Garden seeds and other gardening supplies vanished just before I did my annual shop for such things. I was able to get seed potatoes and onion sets and some seeds from the local hardware store but many other items were and are unavailable. Ironically some of my old seeds germinated better than the new ones I purchased. My goal is to get stocked up on everything I can in that category asap. I will save seeds from the garden if the drought allows them to reach maturity.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The only foods I've been unable to find anywhere online are freeze dried fruits.
Walmart has quite a good selection that are usually in stock. I have been ordering some off-and-on for the last few months. Peaches, raspberries, blueberries, and strawberries I have been getting.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Look at the past five months or so as a dry run. What did you run out of? What holes did you find when certain things on the shelves dried up, etc. Even if the Covid was over today as we all know there is no returning to 'normal' anymore for a myriad of reasons not the least of which is the financial system being tattered, huge job losses not coming back and the social unrest being funded by those that wish to do us harm.

Have to think long term here as much as possible.

I see holes in the knapsack of good intentions. It’s being played in cascading crisis reacting.

We have to look at the missing piece of the puzzle, the one cloaked on the table of the social engineering shepherd’s. Their telegraphed preoccupation with the herd.

We should be gaming the slight of hand that misleads us continually.

In game we trust? I didn’t think so.
 
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Nana

Senior Member
Hi Anna. I too have problems getting cans open with the pull tab. I found that the can opener that goes around the outside of the top of the can will work. The one I have used many years that cuts the lid out of the top of the can will not work. Hope this helps. Nana
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
Anna43, I use a spoon handle to lift the pull tab on those hateful cans and if the tap breaks I jab something into the side of the lid and just pry it up and open with pliers.

If you can't find any dried fruit at all, why not dehydrate the canned fruit? It should last at least as long as the canned goods would and maybe longer.....you might see if the canned fruit should be dipped in anything so it doesn't turn black.. And you wouldn't have to worry about those icky cans any more.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Common sense needs to be applied as well as patience. I typically was shopping once a month and I pay attention so I did that monthly shopping a week ahead of the shutdown. Since the first of March I have shopped four times and each time I was mostly replacing what I used to keep my pantry at the same level. However, instead of going to a single grocery store I have to go to three or four due limits or empty shelves.

I'm being careful to stretch meat to several meals and not to waste anything. I put in a large garden but due to drought its not doing well but at least I tried. My grocery budget is $110 a month which is not going nearly as far due to price increases.
The only foods I've been unable to find anywhere online are freeze dried fruits. I typically use them in breakfast oatmeal and reorder once a year. I missed out on that by waiting until I'd opened the last cans. My solution is to buy more canned fruits and use those instead. I'm not sure how to calculate the amount needed so am adding a few extra cans each time I shop. I loath, distrust and absolutely hate that canned fruits all now come with pull tab tops which seem to lose their seal easily plus my arthritic hands find them nearly impossible to open. If you use pliers, the tab breaks and then you're out of luck, because you cannot use a can opener on them.

I am fortunate that I have only found one gap in my preps. Garden seeds and other gardening supplies vanished just before I did my annual shop for such things. I was able to get seed potatoes and onion sets and some seeds from the local hardware store but many other items were and are unavailable. Ironically some of my old seeds germinated better than the new ones I purchased. My goal is to get stocked up on everything I can in that category asap. I will save seeds from the garden if the drought allows them to reach maturity.
Anna, look online for a utinsal called a J hook, for people with bad hands. I use mine quite often.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie
I'm not sure I can deal well with anymore change right now. Heat indices were near 100 today. August weather has come early. If I needed any proof CV-19 is a bioweapon, I have it. This heat and humidity depresses most other viruses, but our numbers are still rising in Iowa.
 
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