Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
What would be a good camera to document what is happening around a car, before, during and after an accident?
…… recommendations for Car Cameras to record Accidents? Body Cams?
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That’s too broad a question.
Before and during? A dash cam.
After? Your cell phone.
Before and during? A dash cam.
After? Your cell phone.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ok, here is the thing.
I was parked in a line of parked cars this morning. The person in the car ahead of me turned on their engine (they had been parked, too) and kicked the car into reverse, hitting my car at somewhere between 2 and 4 mph.
My suspicion is that maybe, she was meaning to move her car up about 10 feet or so, to close in the line between her and the car parked in front of her in the line, and that her crashing into me was probably an accident on her part. Unless she was actually TRYING to set up an accident scene, of course.
But at any rate, I hit my horn and stayed on it, but she did not stop until she hit me and my wife. Yes, my wife - who seldom gets out - was in the passenger seat at the time.
After hitting me, she pulls back up, and parks her car.
The encounter did no damage to her car, but did minor damage to mine.
But then, she gets out of her car, and starts accusing ME of hitting HER.
My car was in park at the time of the accident. Hers was the only car moving at the time.
She was lying between her teeth when she said I hit her. I think she might have been trying to set up a situation where she could hit up my insurance for money, but her car never experienced any damage. (Of course, I guess she can claim whiplash later).
It dawned on my wife and I that - as this happened on a rather affluent private school’s property - that they might have camera footage that would document the truth of what really happened, so my wife sought out the school’s security officer to see if they might have video footage of what happened.
He said that they did not have a camera that would have covered the area where we were. Although, even now, I hold out hope that they actually DO have video of the accident, and just did not want to get involved, because if this thing were to get bigger, our insurance company might be able to get access to it, where we cannot.
I called the Memphis Police Department, who did come out when we mentioned to the dispatcher that the situation had become confrontational at one point.
The two officers did act as a buffer, to keep the situation from getting worse. But they would not actually take a formal report on it because it happened on private property.
Meantime, the driver of the other car accused my wife of calling her the “N” word. But neither my wife nor I ever got ugly out there. Frankly, even if we had been inclined to, we know better than that.
The bottom line is that at best - we were falsely accused - at least twice by the woman driving the car that hit us.
First when she rolled her car into mine and then accused me of hitting her.
And second, when she accused my wife of using ugly, racist language towards her. Language that she most certainly DID NOTt use. That is language my wife just does not use. Ever.
We are concerned that — at worst. — we were being set up for a possible, fraudulent insurance claim. We have some concern even now, that she will try something - like maybe claiming whiplash later, since there was just no damage done to her car at all.
At best, we sure had alot of lies and false accusations made about the both of us.
And yes, I have already notified the insurance company what happened.
But as far as the issue of car cams, I am looking for a camera that would document the truth behind any future accidents or incidents concerning my car.
If I had had a camera on my car today, we would have proof of what really happened.
But this has evolved into “he said,” “she sais” for any body otner than me, my wife and the driver of the other car.
Back in the 60’s Gomer Pyle used to say, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
This has happened once. i would like to put a camera system on my car to document any future events. With her, or with anybody else, for that matter.
I was parked in a line of parked cars this morning. The person in the car ahead of me turned on their engine (they had been parked, too) and kicked the car into reverse, hitting my car at somewhere between 2 and 4 mph.
My suspicion is that maybe, she was meaning to move her car up about 10 feet or so, to close in the line between her and the car parked in front of her in the line, and that her crashing into me was probably an accident on her part. Unless she was actually TRYING to set up an accident scene, of course.
But at any rate, I hit my horn and stayed on it, but she did not stop until she hit me and my wife. Yes, my wife - who seldom gets out - was in the passenger seat at the time.
After hitting me, she pulls back up, and parks her car.
The encounter did no damage to her car, but did minor damage to mine.
But then, she gets out of her car, and starts accusing ME of hitting HER.
My car was in park at the time of the accident. Hers was the only car moving at the time.
She was lying between her teeth when she said I hit her. I think she might have been trying to set up a situation where she could hit up my insurance for money, but her car never experienced any damage. (Of course, I guess she can claim whiplash later).
It dawned on my wife and I that - as this happened on a rather affluent private school’s property - that they might have camera footage that would document the truth of what really happened, so my wife sought out the school’s security officer to see if they might have video footage of what happened.
He said that they did not have a camera that would have covered the area where we were. Although, even now, I hold out hope that they actually DO have video of the accident, and just did not want to get involved, because if this thing were to get bigger, our insurance company might be able to get access to it, where we cannot.
I called the Memphis Police Department, who did come out when we mentioned to the dispatcher that the situation had become confrontational at one point.
The two officers did act as a buffer, to keep the situation from getting worse. But they would not actually take a formal report on it because it happened on private property.
Meantime, the driver of the other car accused my wife of calling her the “N” word. But neither my wife nor I ever got ugly out there. Frankly, even if we had been inclined to, we know better than that.
The bottom line is that at best - we were falsely accused - at least twice by the woman driving the car that hit us.
First when she rolled her car into mine and then accused me of hitting her.
And second, when she accused my wife of using ugly, racist language towards her. Language that she most certainly DID NOTt use. That is language my wife just does not use. Ever.
We are concerned that — at worst. — we were being set up for a possible, fraudulent insurance claim. We have some concern even now, that she will try something - like maybe claiming whiplash later, since there was just no damage done to her car at all.
At best, we sure had alot of lies and false accusations made about the both of us.
And yes, I have already notified the insurance company what happened.
But as far as the issue of car cams, I am looking for a camera that would document the truth behind any future accidents or incidents concerning my car.
If I had had a camera on my car today, we would have proof of what really happened.
But this has evolved into “he said,” “she sais” for any body otner than me, my wife and the driver of the other car.
Back in the 60’s Gomer Pyle used to say, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
This has happened once. i would like to put a camera system on my car to document any future events. With her, or with anybody else, for that matter.
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Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Also, I am interested in possibly getting body cams, too, and would be interested in any recommendations you all might have in these, too.
I do not take lightly to people levying false accusations against my wife, especially a false accusation that involves racial slander in this racially polarized city.
I do not take lightly to people levying false accusations against my wife, especially a false accusation that involves racial slander in this racially polarized city.
lostinaz
Senior Member
You can buy dual view dashcams now from Amazon for $80. Its cheap insurance.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
As Dennis pointed out, a dash cam is the answer. Get one with a rear facing view in addition to the out the windshield view. One with audio recording is a nice to have feature.
Abe Froman
Senior Member
In Memphis? Good luck with that.
10-22
Contributing Member
Repeating Dennis said,dash cam that runs anytime you start your car.
Try to get the good dual one with an impact sensor that is sent to your phone so if there is an incident,you can easy text it to others,your attorney,law enforcement or whatever. That prevents anyone from from having to "take" your camera to check it. You send the footage to those on your emergency list. Easy as sending a text. The crash sensor brings it from sleep mode and starts recording even if you are parked and it detects a impact.
*Note. Do not be tempted to get the $29 just as good Wish.Com camera. Once you add the memory card,you really have not saved any money. It may work at first,but 6 months later, it may not. And the footage on the very cheap ones are grainy and shaky.
In today's world,they are a must have. You record everything.
Might be the cheapest $100-200 bucks you ever spent. Many times,you just have to point to your dash cam and say "I have it all on camera" and the behavior will start changing as well as the story.
Try to get the good dual one with an impact sensor that is sent to your phone so if there is an incident,you can easy text it to others,your attorney,law enforcement or whatever. That prevents anyone from from having to "take" your camera to check it. You send the footage to those on your emergency list. Easy as sending a text. The crash sensor brings it from sleep mode and starts recording even if you are parked and it detects a impact.
*Note. Do not be tempted to get the $29 just as good Wish.Com camera. Once you add the memory card,you really have not saved any money. It may work at first,but 6 months later, it may not. And the footage on the very cheap ones are grainy and shaky.
In today's world,they are a must have. You record everything.
Might be the cheapest $100-200 bucks you ever spent. Many times,you just have to point to your dash cam and say "I have it all on camera" and the behavior will start changing as well as the story.
SurvivalRing
Rich Fleetwood - Founder - author/coder/podcaster
I’ve had a $20 Walmart dash cam for four years. I bought it right after the two wrecks in 2018.
The first was being squeezed by two semis on I-20 in south Dallas, where we got sideswiped by a semi at 70 mph…we got to the shoulder, and the semi pulled over ahead of us. No injuries…
The second one was the bad one, where we got rear ended by a distracted drunk driver at a stop light, which caused enough damage and injury that it required neck/spine surgery.
Since purchase of that camera, I’ve not been in an accident since…thank GOD!
In the last thirty years, I’ve been hit from behind in three separate accidents…all of them when I was standing still, waiting for traffic to move normally…in 1993, 1994, and 2018. All three caused compression fractures in multiple vertebrae…the last of which disabled me completely.
My recommendations? Get a dual lens camera that gets both front and rear video, in the highest resolution you can find. I’ve got three Vivitar 4K action cams, that make excellent dash cams. They also feature WiFi connectivity, are waterproof, and can use high capacity MicroSD chips.
I’ve not been in an accident that I caused in over forty years. I’ve been in several that could have been avoided if the drivers that hit me had just paid attention.
High definition video of the dumbass drivers doing their stupid shit that caused injury to you and yours, is the best insurance you can have.
The first was being squeezed by two semis on I-20 in south Dallas, where we got sideswiped by a semi at 70 mph…we got to the shoulder, and the semi pulled over ahead of us. No injuries…
The second one was the bad one, where we got rear ended by a distracted drunk driver at a stop light, which caused enough damage and injury that it required neck/spine surgery.
Since purchase of that camera, I’ve not been in an accident since…thank GOD!
In the last thirty years, I’ve been hit from behind in three separate accidents…all of them when I was standing still, waiting for traffic to move normally…in 1993, 1994, and 2018. All three caused compression fractures in multiple vertebrae…the last of which disabled me completely.
My recommendations? Get a dual lens camera that gets both front and rear video, in the highest resolution you can find. I’ve got three Vivitar 4K action cams, that make excellent dash cams. They also feature WiFi connectivity, are waterproof, and can use high capacity MicroSD chips.
I’ve not been in an accident that I caused in over forty years. I’ve been in several that could have been avoided if the drivers that hit me had just paid attention.
High definition video of the dumbass drivers doing their stupid shit that caused injury to you and yours, is the best insurance you can have.
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I already told you
GET A DASH CAM AND USE IT.
You’re a prepper, right? So prep.
Learn your lesson?
GET A DASH CAM AND USE IT.
You’re a prepper, right? So prep.
Learn your lesson?
They all have audio now. And put the biggest SSD card in it that it takes. Don’t consider a dashcam that won’t take at least a 64gb SD card, and a 128 is better.
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Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Barry,
With all due respect, the best prepping advice anyone can give you is to get the 'ell out of Memphis. I know of what I speak and walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
I'm a native of New Orleans and got the 'ell out of there decades ago (and moved to rural areas). Yes, you will probably take an economic hit if you are seeking employment, but to the good the cost of living will be cheaper. You can't put a price on the safety of your loved ones. Good luck to you.
Best
Doc
With all due respect, the best prepping advice anyone can give you is to get the 'ell out of Memphis. I know of what I speak and walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
I'm a native of New Orleans and got the 'ell out of there decades ago (and moved to rural areas). Yes, you will probably take an economic hit if you are seeking employment, but to the good the cost of living will be cheaper. You can't put a price on the safety of your loved ones. Good luck to you.
Best
Doc
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
A friend has those - says they're better than the price indicates.
Going to order up a couple for us.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
I ran into one of them way back in the day, just north of Grand Marais , MN. He was trying to give me a very hard time, didn't like the fact that when he backed into my F150 his bumper fell off. No obvious damage to my truck. I just stated speaking in piglatin mixed with a little Mikmaw, crossed my eyes, started swinging my arms around and he fled. His eyes got real big. Guy at the other gas pump about lost it he was laughing so hard.
Yeah. They apparently like the cool summers up here.
Can happen at any parking lot or street anytime between May and Oct.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just put one on order which meets or exceeds all the specs suggested in this thread.
I should get it by the weekend.
Then I just have to find the time to install it. Between my wife’s chemo schedule and my upcoming double knee replacement (two weeks from now), plus my everyday responsibilities — it will be a challenge to block out enough time to do the job.
But I will get it done.
buttie
Veteran Member
Well, do tell, what did you get???
AlfaMan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yep, I smell an insurance claim for bodily injury coming from the dindu nuffin that hit you. Wife had the same problem about 5 years back. WOman at a light rolled into her bumper (no damage either car) and next thing you know b*tch is trying to sue us for 300K.........Now on each vehicle we have I carry commercial limits liability, so Allstate provided us with a great lawyer and we took it to court.
Come to find out, this b*tch had done this once before, with a payout from another unsuspecting driver for 125K. Lawyer got her up on the stand and frankly eviscerated her.........She ended up getting not one red cent from us or the insurance company. So yes, your're right in thinking it may be a set up.
And a good camera might be a good idea-these shysters (and there's millions of them out there) are all over the place.
I've heard good things from Cobra units and Garmin cameras as well. It's relatively cheap insurance. I ran one during COVID; battery failed on the unit and I haven't replaced it yet. Good reminder, thanks!
First thing call your insyrance and report the event then uf she tries to file they have yiu account of the events.
As far as a dash cam i install one a few months ago and furst week of 100 plus days it fell off the window and stoppe working. I will follow the thread to see what brands are suggested.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
-- here a 256GIG Samsung for less than a two person drive through tab.
I had a terrible time finding one that could take the heat down here. I went through four units with battery backup. Finally had to get one that’s capacitor powered. The batteries fried in a matter of weeks in the Austin summer heat.
kyrsyan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Another thing which might help in the future is one of the vehicle "black boxes". It keeps the vehicles data and could show what gear, speed, etc were for your vehicle.
Insurance companies used to offer discounts for having them. I don't know if they are available for private use.
Insurance companies used to offer discounts for having them. I don't know if they are available for private use.
lostinaz
Senior Member
And the one I posted isnt necessarily the best one. Its just one that had some good specs on Amazon. You get what you pay for. Costco has a great return policy so it may be better to get them there if you are a member. I have gotten recall notices from them on electronics I bought 5 years ago offering full refunds (not that I know where they are now).
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
I'm praying for you and your wife!
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thank you very much.
I've had a cheapo (forward only) dash cam for 5 years now, bought it after viewing YouTube crash videos. It was worth it's weight in gold when we were hit by another motorist last year. No witness or testimony compares to showing a video in court.
That said, I am upgrading to a dual view cam as many accidents can start from behind, and the increase of rear end collisions due to tailgaiting and distracted driving.
Anyone driving today without some type of dash cam is just plain foolish.
That said, I am upgrading to a dual view cam as many accidents can start from behind, and the increase of rear end collisions due to tailgaiting and distracted driving.
Anyone driving today without some type of dash cam is just plain foolish.
savurselvs
Veteran Member
Do not get a “rove”
They will not play nice if you have a non rove micro sd card.
Their cards are double in price.
I bought a exact spec name brand card.
It flags it and will not record.
It came be bypassed by power cycling, but a PIA.
They will not play nice if you have a non rove micro sd card.
Their cards are double in price.
I bought a exact spec name brand card.
It flags it and will not record.
It came be bypassed by power cycling, but a PIA.
QFT
Some of these (maybe all) plug into the port used for diagnostics on your car. This port isn’t made to have something in it 24/7 so it can mess up your car and or the port. And guess what? You can’t prove that, so insurance companies don’t care. Beware of these.
kyrsyan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
From what I could find when I went searching, they are actually built in to most modern cars now. But there aren't customer available devices to read them. Insurance companies may be able to read them. A lot of states passed laws requiring that the owner give permission. And there was no info on the cost of getting them read, so unless a claim is going to be pricey, insurance companies probably just won't do it.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
recommendations for dual front/rear dash cams? TIA.
FWIW most of the accidents I've had the misfortune to witness recently have been rear end accidents, at stop lights, where the other driver was not paying attention and failed to slow down in a timely manner.
FWIW most of the accidents I've had the misfortune to witness recently have been rear end accidents, at stop lights, where the other driver was not paying attention and failed to slow down in a timely manner.
Even a forward-only dashcam will show that your car wasn’t moving at the time of impact.
savurselvs
Veteran Member
Finally got an answer from a buddy
They are a special unit in large PD.
Their unit uses the Z-edge bought on Amazon.
Used them for at least 2 years I am told
They are a special unit in large PD.
Their unit uses the Z-edge bought on Amazon.
Used them for at least 2 years I am told
Can you give us a link when you get a chance?
dawgofwar10
Veteran Member
Get the Trunk Monkey….