How do you sync them?We have two 2500 watt IGen inverters that we can parallel for more power
How do you sync them?We have two 2500 watt IGen inverters that we can parallel for more power
Gosh. Wish I’d had you check on the installation the year after it was done. You know, to make sure the pro did everything correctly.“If done correctly.” I don’t think you understand what that means vis-a vis generators. “Done correctly” means providing isolation from the grid when the genset is in use. Failing that WILL backfeed power into the power lines. (This is usually self-limiting, because that little one-lung generator would be trying to power the entire community. It will shut down almost immediately from that attempt.)
So what you’d said originally (your blanket “this is not a problem” statement) is in error.
While on this topic, use of electric generators continues to be the single greatest area of ignorance on the part of the general public. Unfortunately, this can cause death or one’s home to burst into flame. If one doesn’t hire an expert to dot the i’s and cross the t’s, one must engage in a great deal of study in order to avoid death or a burnt-out home.
My dream generator.
This was what I had installed in the runup to Y2K. 22 kVa.
You use a parallel cable to combine the two.How do you sync them?
What turned you so sour? The fact that I called you on Black? Don’t you think that’s a bit petty of you?Gosh. Wish I’d had you check on the installation the year after it was done. You know, to make sure the pro did everything correctly.
Just so you know, I never said I would follow the AP guideline. To this day, I don’t capitalize it in my newspaper. And never will.What turned you so sour? The fact that I called you on Black? Don’t you think that’s a bit petty of you?
Thank you. And Abby sends her best.Well, you’re a good man for bucking the Woke race baiters.
Things that are small like phones and chargers for AA batteries for flashlights, can be done through your car. You can get a small one (wattage) if you only need it for that, but if you want to bump up a fridge, you can get a larger one in the 2000 + wattage range. And that's a DC/AC inverter.Thanks for all the responses (well, except maybe the one from Dennis ).
Luddite, thanks for your mention of ENELOOP batteries. We have a ton of AA and AAA Lithium batteries (which I use for my GPS, hiking headlamp and flashlights, and other small things), but only alkaline C and D batteries. (At this juncture, I'm not sure that anything we still own even uses C batteries.) If I can charge AA batteries and adapt them to use as D batteries, that could be a win. (The alkaline batteries, by the way, are a mix... I don't think I have Rayovac, though.)
(Actually, after reading up on the D adapter thingies, it seems that they can be used with "regular" (non NiMH) batteries too. So I'll get some of those adapters, whether or not I get rechargeable batteries (which DH is not keen on, except for his precious flashlights which charge directly from the wall). The AA batteries won't last as long as real D batteries, but they'll do in a pinch, and I have a lot of them.)
One thing that I did early January, and I am glad that I did, was go through and clean out and rearrange the storage area where I keep my batteries, light sticks, and candles. The area itself had gotten blocked by things, so first I had to move things around to even get in there, and then I had to go through all the batteries to see what was still good and what wasn't; we recycled a LOT of old batteries (yes, we can easily do that here). I also had to consolidate all the light sticks into one pile, and get all the candle holders more or less in one spot. I am SO GLAD that I did, as I had everything easily accessible for this outage, and I knew what I had and that it would work (well, other than those 2 lanterns... and the solar chargeable lanterns, which I guess I will have to give a try).
I'd seriously consider the suggestion to try to upgrade our current solar so that we *can* use it during outages, but DH is antsy to move (for a lot of reasons), and won't want to put more $ into this house. The current plan is to move once I've gone through two knee replacements (the first in less than a month from now) and recovered.
I tried one of the (3, not 2) new LED lanterns today. Works great, and is smaller than the LL Bean one. While it is adjustable (via how long you press on the "ON" button), the light is not *as* adjustable as the LL Bean lantern (which has a rotary dial). But at 1000 lumen it is certainly bright enough (too bright on HIGH, if you are sitting with it at the kitchen table), and the lantern only uses 3 D cell batteries (vs 4 for the LL Bean one). Per the spec sheet, it can run for 200 hrs on LOW. Amazon.com
I'm currently recharging my external battery packs, at least the small ones, so those will be good to go. (When we plugged in the large external battery last night, it was making noises and I had DH investigate. He said the "power brick" (?) that is used to transform the house voltage AC into DC to recharge it was super hot, and he thinks that it is failing/has failed. He's afraid of a house fire, so he disconnected it and sent a complaint to the company's customer service, so we can get that replaced. We still have a lot of hours of stored charge on that, though, so we will still be able to recharge laptops on it, in the short term. The smaller external batteries can supply our cell phones, if need be.)
I removed the batteries from the LL Bean lantern, and stored them both together. I think I'm going to leave the new lantern out for a bit, as we are expected to get Yet More Rain next week. (God help us... the soil is super saturated here - the latest round of trees that came down were (as I understand it) largely healthy, but the high winds uprooted them because of the wet soil. If we get more winds, we'll have more of the same, unless everything that is going to come down, already has.)
Re our Lil Buddy heater (which, as I said, I never tried....).... I have a couple/few small propane tanks (and 1 20 lb one) out in the shed (damaged by a falling oak back in early December... the insurance company finally agreed on how much to give us for repairs, earlier this week). I'm not sure *where* in the shed they are (things have been moved around multiple times) or even if it's safe to go in there, but maybe (if my knees are up to it) I should try to look for them this weekend, and to see if they will go with the heater.
Meanwhile, trying to catch up on dishes and laundry, before the next incoming...
Thanks again for your kind comments and help.
Good post.I'm a long time prepper and power outages have never been scary for me. That said, I now have a person in the house who is on 24/7 oxygen. Total gamechanger!!! He got home from the hospital one day prior to our big snow storm and I just didn't have time to adjust. His big oxygen unit uses 8,600 watts a day. His big tank lasts a day or so at 2 liters. I cut him down to one so we got over 2 days. His portable was the best option because my generator could handle that one. We had no power for 5 1/2 days and were snowed in for 9 days. If anyone in your family has medical needs rethink your preps now!
I also found out that some people absolutely panic when snowed in. Holy cow! I had 2 people in the house who nutted up after about 3 days. My best advise is to send them out to shovel snow and burn off some of that energy.
My neighbors have whole house generators that run on propane. I learned a lot from them. One ran out of propane 3 days in but where able to get an emergency delivery. One used 500 gallons of propane in 5 days. At $3.75 a gallon that's a big hit. One had a brown-out situation due to a downed power line. It screwed up the generac and burned out his stove and 2 freezers. His electric stove actually heated up and glowed red before it fried. Most folks could not get propane deliveries due to closed roads.
Another neighbor has a solar whole house generator. He is a newby and he used all of his watts in one day. We had the talk about delegating your watts!
Our gas generator folks all had to dig out, get a ride to town, and stand in line for gas (if they could find gas!) at least 3 times during the storm.
Prepare yourselves for the worst. Sometimes the worst happens!
The part about people wigging out on you is a true fact. I'd agree - after 3 days of no power you are going to want to turn about half of them out of the house (or whack them in the head with a baseball bat). Instant entertainment and gratification demands are off the charts for too many these days.
Yes!! Headlamps are awesome.Headlamps are vital! We use them regularly now, but in an outage, everyone wore them. They make walking around in the dark much safer, and provide task lighting for whatever you're doing.
My genset will consume 300,000 BTU/hr under full load. No idea how to convert that to gallons. But I sized the genny such that even running the whole house, it was only at 75% rated load.500 gall9ns of propane in 3 days!?!
That's a little under 3 gallons an hour...91,500 BTUs in a gallon of propane. Diesel is @138,000 BTUs.My genset will consume 300,000 BTU/hr under full load. No idea how to convert that to gallons. But I sized the genny such that even running the whole house, it was only at 75% rated load.
Agree. My genset uses NG as primary fuel. I had the 500 gallon propane tank as a backup fuel source, both for the genset and the house (furnace.) I designed a manifold with valving that would allow us to cut off NG flow from citygas and allow the propane to be used. A nipple change in the furnace burner (I had the nipples in a manila envelope taped to the outside of the furnace cabinet) and a pressure change at the furnace regulator and we'd have been good to go. No hope for the NG water heater though, but better to have heat than hot water.I think the point is, if you are planning on genny use for longer than a few hours or a daylong outage, you better either make it natural gas (and hope whatever caused the outage didn't also affect the natural gas pumping stations) or figure out *real quick* how to hugely conserve on electrical usage.
Yeah... there wasn't ever a problem on the farm with cabin fever. DS was telling his daughter the other day(as she was cheering the snow day from school) "we didn't like snow days! We all had chores until noon... school was better!"The manual (non-electric) lifestyle is highly labor intensive.
Sleep will become the preferred entertainment.
Them whats don't feel inclined to contribute can occupy their spare time surviving somewhere else.
My genset will consume 300,000 BTU/hr under full load. No idea how to convert that to gallons. But I sized the genny such that even running the whole house, it was only at 75% rated load.