CORONA Ragnarok's Ponderings on Where we are Headed

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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So does the common cold. Conventional wisdom is that a person with a healthy immune system can never be sickened by the same virus twice. I grew with up that as a medical mantra. Why do people keep getting colds and flu year after year?

That’s right buckaroo…..
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
How do they know that the Delta variant is so widespread as to justify another lockdown?



Regular COVID-19 tests do not detect which variant is involved in a patient’s case

Is there a specific COVID-19 test for the delta variant?
Current COVID-19 tests can’t always detect the delta variant. The delta variant “carries distinctive biological markers that some among the dozens of commercially available COVID tests from academic institutes and medical giants may not be able to sense,” according to Fortune

If you get COVID-19, will you know it's the Delta variant? Here's why you likely won't
You likely won't know, at least not when you're initially tested for the virus.

If you test positive, most tests won't tell you what strain of the virus you have, said Dr. David Winter, Director of Internal Medicine at Baylor Scott & White hospital in Dallas.

"We don't always know [the variant] when we do the regular tests," Winter said. "We do that in epidemiological studies ... The routine testing for COVID-19 will just tell you if you have the coronavirus. It doesn't tell you what strain you might have."


Experts answer whether COVID-19 tests can detect specific variants
"All the PCR test will tell you is whether you test positive for COVID-19, but it doesn't specify. It is not sophisticated enough to tell you specific variants of the virus"

Genetic Variants of SARS-CoV-2 May Lead to False Negative Results
The SARS-CoV-2 virus can mutate over time, resulting in genetic variation in the population of circulating viral strains. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is alerting clinical laboratory staff and health care providers that false negative results may occur with any molecular test for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 if a mutation occurs in the part of the virus’ genome assessed by that test




Fear is the driver.

Look how much we have willingly given up in the hopes that medical "science" can save us from that which it created.

How much more can they take from us without any pushback if they can keep the fear ratcheted up>
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Covid started as an ordinary coronavirus, but it was modified with insertions from HIV.

Common cold? Nope.

DYODD of course. The medical journal Forbes says not so. But this has been in the record since 2020 - for those who bothered to read the record. And don't look up furin cleavage ...

Have fun following the science. And the politics.
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Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag

We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus.
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Besides all of the other illogical claims " they " have made, it is also noteworthy that since all the pandemic began, it seems the only deaths reported are Covid deaths. No more death from cancer, heart disease, kidney failure, accidents, etc, etc, etc.

:bs:

I have also seen it reported of people dying from car accidents, yet reported as from covid.

Odd is it not ?

:ld: :groucho:
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
More Faster Harder



Joe Biden Plans to Mandate Foreign Visitors to U.S. be Vaccinated
Reuters reports:

The Biden administration has interagency working groups working “in order to have a new system ready for when we can reopen travel,” the official said, adding it includes “a phased approach that over time will mean, with limited exceptions, that foreign nationals traveling to the United States (from all countries) need to be fully vaccinated.” [Emphasis added]

The White House has held discussions with airlines and others about how it would implement a policy of requiring vaccines for foreign visitors. There are other questions the Biden administration must answer, including what proof it would accept of vaccination and if the United States would accept vaccines that some countries are using but which have not yet been authorized by U.S. regulators. [Emphasis added]

Such a move would come with a loosening of existing travel bans to the U.S. imposed by the Biden administration, many of which started under former President Donald Trump’s administration and were opposed by Democrats despite experts confirming that such bans help slow the spread of coronavirus.

While hammering out details of a plan to require foreign visitors to be vaccinated against coronavirus, the Biden administration has continued releasing border crossers at the U.S.-Mexico border into the nation’s interior who are coronavirus-positive.

On Wednesday, for example, the city officials for McAllen, Texas, revealed that the Biden administration has released more than 7,000 coronavirus-positive border crossers into their community since February. This week, alone, more than 1,500 coronavirus-positive border crossers were released into the area, officials said.

This week, the Washington Post reported that the Biden administration is likewise developing a plan to provide border crossers with the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine before releasing them into the interior of the U.S.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Former Obama Official Demands ‘a No-Fly List for Unvaccinated Adults’
Former Assistant Secretary for Homeland Security under President Obama Juliette Kayyem called Tuesday for the Biden administration to restrict the unvaccinated from flying by placing them on a no-fly list.

Kayyem claimed in the Atlantic that “a no-fly list for unvaccinated adults is an obvious step that the federal government should take” due to TSA PreCheck, which “divide passengers into categories according to how much of a threat the government thinks they pose.”

At the time of publication, the headline for the piece echoed this line, stating bluntly: “Unvaccinated People Belong on the No-Fly List.” The headline has since been changed to a more ambiguous sentence: “Unvaccinated People Need to Bear the Burden.”

Notice @TheAtlantic changed their headline on this
Here’s the original pic.twitter.com/H1nDW78qkL
— Jack Posobiec, IWO (@JackPosobiec) August 4, 2021
The original headline still appears on social media shares of the article from The Atlantic‘s own account.



“If you submit to heightened scrutiny in advance,” Kayyem said, “TSA PreCheck lets you go through security without taking off your shoes; a no-fly list keeps certain people off the plane entirely.”

The author continues:

Flying is not a right, and the case for restricting it to vaccinated people is straightforward: The federal government is the sole entity that can regulate the terms and conditions of airline safety. And although air-filtration systems and mask requirements make transmission of the coronavirus unlikely during any given passenger flight, infected people can spread it when they leave the airport and take off their mask. The whole point of international-travel bans is to curb infections in the destination country; to protect itself, the United States still has many such restrictions in place. Beyond limiting the virus’s flow from hot spots to the rest of the country, allowing only vaccinated people on domestic flights will change minds, too.
Kayyem also suggests the “holdouts” with “a variety of motivations” include 41 percent of the unvaccinated that said “a prohibition on airline travel would get them closer to their shots.”

Kayyem champions shaming the unvaccinated, who should “face scorn among their peer group” and “may even be happy to have an excuse to protect themselves,” along with celebrating Broadway, Disney, and Walmart for forcing the unvaccinated to give up “certain societal benefits” to practice their their individuality and freedom of choice.

“Amid a global health crisis,” Kayyem continues, “people who defy public-health guidance are not, and do not deserve to be, a protected class.”

The former assistant secretary’s diktats align with President Joe Biden’s shaming and punishing of those who refuse to become vaccinated.

For instance, Biden told churchgoers in April they were being ungodly if they did not receive a vaccine.

“I think this is the Godly thing to do. Protect your brother and sister,” he stated. “That’s what this is about. It’s about protecting people.”

On July 2, Biden indicated black Tuskegee airmen “were almost like guinea pigs,” when answering a question about vaccine hesitancy in the black community:

You know, you go back just to — even World War II, African-Americans were used as experimental — they were almost like guinea pigs in terms of — they were — anyway, it — and your mom and dad remember that and your grandparents remember that.
Vice President Kamala Harris warned July 19 if free Americans refuse to get vaccinated, they would cause continued mask mandates.

“No one likes wearing masks… people need to get vaccinated. That’s the only way we’re going to cut this off,” she scolded. “Nobody likes wearing a mask.”
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Former Biden Coronavirus Adviser: NYC’s Vaccine Mandate Will Likely Be ‘Copied Around the Country’
Andy Slavitt, former Biden White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator and former acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, praised Mayor Bill de Blasio’s (D) plan to discriminate against unvaccinated individuals by forcing indoor restaurants, gyms, and entertainment venues to require patrons to show proof of vaccination prior to entry and predicted that such a policy will be “copied around the country” down the road.

The Democrat mayor featured Slavitt at Tuesday’s press conference, where de Blasio introduced the “Key to NYC Pass” initiative, which will effectively prevent unvaccinated individuals from participating in many everyday life activities, such as dining in a restaurant.

Slavitt divided people into three groups of concern: the vaccinated, willfully unvaccinated, and those who cannot be vaccinated due to age or a medical condition.

“These kind of folks [the vaccinated] will have the ability to lead the kind of life they led prior to 2020 and really make the most of reuniting with their families, friends, and activities around New York,” he said, explaining that the third group must take priority above the other two and “be protected from the city.”

“It is putting those people and their needs higher than people that have choices who are not taking them, that’s so essential,” Slavitt said, openly supporting intrusive policies to force the unvaccinated to succumb to the government’s demands.

“The questions people have now about society will be cleared up with this announcement. Can I go into this restaurant? Can I go into this gym safely? Can I go to this doctor? Should I go to this hospital? Should I go to this movie? New York City will be the first city in the country that takes those questions off the table completely as this gets implemented,” Slavitt continued, contending that the policy is not pitting people against each other. Rather, he said these coercive efforts should be viewed as a “choice that benefits everybody.”

Slavitt expressed the view that the mandate be viewed in a positive light, as an “encouragement” for those who were not vaccinated “not because they have a real objection to it but because they haven’t seen or felt a compelling need.”

“And our data shows a lot of people, particularly people under 25, who have not been vaccinated, really don’t hold a strong objection,” he claimed, viewing government-mandated discrimination against the unvaccinated as a nudge to force the administration’s desired behavior.

“They just don’t feel that it’s such a high priority in their lives. So I want to thank the mayor for his leadership today,” he said, predicting that the rest of the country will follow suit.

“I expect that over time, this will be copied around the country,” he added.

The Democrat mayor bragged about the initiative prior to introducing Slavitt.

“The Key to New York City. When you hear those words, I want you to imagine the notion that because someone’s vaccinated, they can do all the amazing things that are available in the city,” he said, describing New York City as a “miraculous place literally full of wonders.” Such “wonders,” however, are only available to the vaccinated.

“And if you’re vaccinated, all of that’s going to open up to you. You’ll have the key, you can open the door. If you’re unvaccinated, unfortunately, you will not be able to participate in many things,” he warned.

Enforcement will begin mid-September.
 

vestige

TB Fanatic
Former Biden Coronavirus Adviser: NYC’s Vaccine Mandate Will Likely Be ‘Copied Around the Country’
Andy Slavitt, former Biden White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator and former acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, praised Mayor Bill de Blasio’s (D) plan to discriminate against unvaccinated individuals by forcing indoor restaurants, gyms, and entertainment venues to require patrons to show proof of vaccination prior to entry and predicted that such a policy will be “copied around the country” down the road.

The Democrat mayor featured Slavitt at Tuesday’s press conference, where de Blasio introduced the “Key to NYC Pass” initiative, which will effectively prevent unvaccinated individuals from participating in many everyday life activities, such as dining in a restaurant.

Slavitt divided people into three groups of concern: the vaccinated, willfully unvaccinated, and those who cannot be vaccinated due to age or a medical condition.

“These kind of folks [the vaccinated] will have the ability to lead the kind of life they led prior to 2020 and really make the most of reuniting with their families, friends, and activities around New York,” he said, explaining that the third group must take priority above the other two and “be protected from the city.”

“It is putting those people and their needs higher than people that have choices who are not taking them, that’s so essential,” Slavitt said, openly supporting intrusive policies to force the unvaccinated to succumb to the government’s demands.

“The questions people have now about society will be cleared up with this announcement. Can I go into this restaurant? Can I go into this gym safely? Can I go to this doctor? Should I go to this hospital? Should I go to this movie? New York City will be the first city in the country that takes those questions off the table completely as this gets implemented,” Slavitt continued, contending that the policy is not pitting people against each other. Rather, he said these coercive efforts should be viewed as a “choice that benefits everybody.”

Slavitt expressed the view that the mandate be viewed in a positive light, as an “encouragement” for those who were not vaccinated “not because they have a real objection to it but because they haven’t seen or felt a compelling need.”

“And our data shows a lot of people, particularly people under 25, who have not been vaccinated, really don’t hold a strong objection,” he claimed, viewing government-mandated discrimination against the unvaccinated as a nudge to force the administration’s desired behavior.

“They just don’t feel that it’s such a high priority in their lives. So I want to thank the mayor for his leadership today,” he said, predicting that the rest of the country will follow suit.

“I expect that over time, this will be copied around the country,” he added.

The Democrat mayor bragged about the initiative prior to introducing Slavitt.

“The Key to New York City. When you hear those words, I want you to imagine the notion that because someone’s vaccinated, they can do all the amazing things that are available in the city,” he said, describing New York City as a “miraculous place literally full of wonders.” Such “wonders,” however, are only available to the vaccinated.

“And if you’re vaccinated, all of that’s going to open up to you. You’ll have the key, you can open the door. If you’re unvaccinated, unfortunately, you will not be able to participate in many things,” he warned.

Enforcement will begin mid-September.
Bullshit
 

Marie

Veteran Member
Former Biden Coronavirus Adviser: NYC’s Vaccine Mandate Will Likely Be ‘Copied Around the Country’
Andy Slavitt, former Biden White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator and former acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, praised Mayor Bill de Blasio’s (D) plan to discriminate against unvaccinated individuals by forcing indoor restaurants, gyms, and entertainment venues to require patrons to show proof of vaccination prior to entry and predicted that such a policy will be “copied around the country” down the road.

The Democrat mayor featured Slavitt at Tuesday’s press conference, where de Blasio introduced the “Key to NYC Pass” initiative, which will effectively prevent unvaccinated individuals from participating in many everyday life activities, such as dining in a restaurant.

Slavitt divided people into three groups of concern: the vaccinated, willfully unvaccinated, and those who cannot be vaccinated due to age or a medical condition.

“These kind of folks [the vaccinated] will have the ability to lead the kind of life they led prior to 2020 and really make the most of reuniting with their families, friends, and activities around New York,” he said, explaining that the third group must take priority above the other two and “be protected from the city.”

“It is putting those people and their needs higher than people that have choices who are not taking them, that’s so essential,” Slavitt said, openly supporting intrusive policies to force the unvaccinated to succumb to the government’s demands.

“The questions people have now about society will be cleared up with this announcement. Can I go into this restaurant? Can I go into this gym safely? Can I go to this doctor? Should I go to this hospital? Should I go to this movie? New York City will be the first city in the country that takes those questions off the table completely as this gets implemented,” Slavitt continued, contending that the policy is not pitting people against each other. Rather, he said these coercive efforts should be viewed as a “choice that benefits everybody.”

Slavitt expressed the view that the mandate be viewed in a positive light, as an “encouragement” for those who were not vaccinated “not because they have a real objection to it but because they haven’t seen or felt a compelling need.”

“And our data shows a lot of people, particularly people under 25, who have not been vaccinated, really don’t hold a strong objection,” he claimed, viewing government-mandated discrimination against the unvaccinated as a nudge to force the administration’s desired behavior.

“They just don’t feel that it’s such a high priority in their lives. So I want to thank the mayor for his leadership today,” he said, predicting that the rest of the country will follow suit.

“I expect that over time, this will be copied around the country,” he added.

The Democrat mayor bragged about the initiative prior to introducing Slavitt.

“The Key to New York City. When you hear those words, I want you to imagine the notion that because someone’s vaccinated, they can do all the amazing things that are available in the city,” he said, describing New York City as a “miraculous place literally full of wonders.” Such “wonders,” however, are only available to the vaccinated.

“And if you’re vaccinated, all of that’s going to open up to you. You’ll have the key, you can open the door. If you’re unvaccinated, unfortunately, you will not be able to participate in many things,” he warned.

Enforcement will begin mid-September.
That's ok they can keep their participation crap.
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
More Faster Harder



Joe Biden Plans to Mandate Foreign Visitors to U.S. be Vaccinated
Reuters reports:

The Biden administration has interagency working groups working “in order to have a new system ready for when we can reopen travel,” the official said, adding it includes “a phased approach that over time will mean, with limited exceptions, that foreign nationals traveling to the United States (from all countries) need to be fully vaccinated.” [Emphasis added]

The White House has held discussions with airlines and others about how it would implement a policy of requiring vaccines for foreign visitors. There are other questions the Biden administration must answer, including what proof it would accept of vaccination and if the United States would accept vaccines that some countries are using but which have not yet been authorized by U.S. regulators. [Emphasis added]

Such a move would come with a loosening of existing travel bans to the U.S. imposed by the Biden administration, many of which started under former President Donald Trump’s administration and were opposed by Democrats despite experts confirming that such bans help slow the spread of coronavirus.

While hammering out details of a plan to require foreign visitors to be vaccinated against coronavirus, the Biden administration has continued releasing border crossers at the U.S.-Mexico border into the nation’s interior who are coronavirus-positive.

On Wednesday, for example, the city officials for McAllen, Texas, revealed that the Biden administration has released more than 7,000 coronavirus-positive border crossers into their community since February. This week, alone, more than 1,500 coronavirus-positive border crossers were released into the area, officials said.

This week, the Washington Post reported that the Biden administration is likewise developing a plan to provide border crossers with the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine before releasing them into the interior of the U.S.

This is reciprocal to what Canada is doing.
 

TammyinWI

Joyful, Patient, Thankful
"This vaccine has not been approved by the FDA and is still considered "experimental". It is supposed to be against the law to mandate an experimental vaccine but here we are."

IDC if they slap a different label on it, that won't change a thing about the serum, and it is not a "vaccine." Vaccine is a misnomer. I am very allergic to the serum.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Seems so simple, it's worth repeating.

If you are "vaccinated", then you should not fear someone who is not vaccinated, you are safe, Right? You're vaccinated.

So why fear someone who is putting their life on the line, in your eye's, not there's.....eyes or life. It's rather stupid really.

Then, the science is out that those vaccinated still shed the virus and pass the virus...... so should one not fear the vaxd?

The science is in.......but they do not have the ability to reason.
 

Mtsilverback

Senior Member
I have worked close and personal to the ronna and have witnessed the effects, good and bad. I have not had it! I will not get the sudovaccination, however, I will continue to do as I have done through out this fear fest. Trust in my Lords guidence and take my supliments. And wash my hands!
 

155 arty

Veteran Member
I'm sitting here contemplating all that is going on in America and where this seems to be leading. The fact that we are so willing to give up the core of what it means to be an American is depressing. Almost everyone has someone in their family that fought against fascism, many died, almost everyone sacrificed in some way to preserve liberty. Is this the country they imagined saving?

I look at the current administration and it appears to be a rudderless ship in a category 5 hurricane. And we all know what eventually happens to a rudderless boat in a tempest.

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The lack of an opposing voice is quite disheartening and confusing. Can nobody see the long term implications? Are we satisfied with the chants and slogans of "Drain the Swamp" with no further action? Are we content to watch Rand Paul lay out a clear cut case of Fauci lying to congress and the referral to the DOJ for a criminal investigation? Are we seriously placing our trust and the future of America in the DOJ? Waco, Ruby Ridge, the January 6th debacle...

When will we say, "Enough!"

I am praying that the line in the sand will be mandatory vaccines because if we fold on this we will have shackled ourselves to the whims and decrees of the government.

Fauci has been given the reins of power by an evil administration. Fauci is dictating policy. Social distancing, wearing a mask indoors and outdoors, wearing 2 masks... 3 masks... Lockdowns, rent and eviction moratoriums, this is all originating from him.

Through his constant exposure in the media and through their hype machine Fauci has surrounded himself in the cult of personality. He has the entertainment industry, the sports industry, the "news" industry all calling for "consequences" for the unvaccinated. Local governments are restricting access to nightclubs, restaurants, theatres, sporting events, retail shops, grocery shops and many other venues. You are not allowed to enter unless you are vaccinated. There are health workers teaming up with military members to go house-to-house to encourage vaccines. They will even give you the shot right there, on the spot. They are compiling a list of those who have submitted to the government by taking the vaccine and those who have not. The Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, is calling for citizens to be rounded up and driven to get vaccines. Many other congressmen, governors, city mayors and others involved in policy making are calling for "vaccine mandates".

This vaccine has not been approved by the FDA and is still considered "experimental". It is supposed to be against the law to mandate an experimental vaccine but here we are.

If the government becomes directly involved in enforcement, where does that lead?

Denial of business licenses? Denial of driver's licenses? Building permits? VA benefits, Property confiscation? Denial of any welfare or social security benefits? It's a scary list.

The country has been divided along race classes, political classes, wealth classes and gender classes. Now we are being further divided between vaccinated and unvaccinated. I've read the history books. This leads to concentration camps.

And the vaccine does not even work like I hear so many argue. "It is the same as the polio vaccine, the smallpox vaccine, the mumps vaccine... You took those, right?"

Yes, because those functioned as vaccines should. They gave lifetime immunity. Even though the mortality rate of those diseases was far and away higher than COVID, we took years to study the vaccine and it's long term effects on the population.

Why the hysterical push to get everyone to take these shots? Why the crazy incentives? Why is no one pumping the brakes as we slide off the rails?

Because once you take the vaccine you have signed away your birthright of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Fauci's own NIH released the studies.

Fauci knows he can manipulate the virus that he funded with tax dollars to create in the Wuhan lab. Fauci has said that even if the virus was accidentally released into an unsuspecting population the resulting research was "worth it".

Fauci knows that these vaccines decrease the severity of the virus. We all know this, too, because it is all you hear, "The vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the virus, it just lessens the symptoms". Well, how does that work? Because the vaccine kills off the weaker viral load while allowing the stronger to flourish. Which leads to a more virulent strain. The Delta variant is probably the first example of a strain created by the vaccines. The stronger variant is now spread by the vaccinated to the unvaccinated and other vaccinated subjects who have taken a shot but are not protected from the newly mutated strain. Otherwise known as "breakthrough" cases. It is the vaccinated who are putting others at risk, not the unvaccinated.

Further, the efficacy of vaccines degrades over time... Unless you get booster shots. And, you will need additional vaccines to "protect" against the newer, stronger variants... That are being created by those same vaccines in willing test subjects ( it is still an experimental vaccine which means everyone who takes it is nothing more and nothing less than a lab experiment. But, remember, Fauci says that the knowledge gained is worth it. )

Fauci now controls government policy, he controls the populace in an ever tightening noose of vaccines and the resulting new strains of covid, he has a cult following, he controls the message people hear through the coddling of the MSM and he has the means to enforce his dictates through the denial of basic life essentials if you refuse to conform. And so far, he has carte blanche.

In other circles throughout history a person with that much power is known as a dictator.

That's a scary thought.

Remember, where we are now only began around 18 months ago.

If this continues unchecked, how much time does America really have left? How much longer is the lifespan of freedom? How much time is left until you no longer have control of your own body... Your own destiny?
Just a thought,are they stupid enough to cut veterans benefits? Not really the group you want to piss on first!!!
 

Mtsilverback

Senior Member
Just a thought,are they stupid enough to cut veterans benefits? Not really the group you want to piss on first!!!
They think they can kill off Vet's by delaying treatments until the Vet dies, so, yes they are arrogant enough to believe no one will do anything about cutting Vet's off from benefits.

That would be until some terminally ill vet take out a bunch of them.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
So how do y'all, where only one of you ( spouse) is vaccinated, deal with sleeping, sex, etc without sounding like you're the crazy one?
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I'm not worried. Hubby got the J&J in May. I have NAC and a lot of other stuff if he ever starts acting wierd,
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
If you read about "leaky" or imperfect vaccines everything will become clear.

There are tons of reports and studies about these vaccines dating back to 2014.

Here is a 14 page pdf file that will give you a good jumping off point:

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens (copy and paste link in a new browser)
file:///C:/Users/samha/Downloads/ReadEtAl_2015_PLoSBiology.pdf

The reason they are pushing so hard for 100% vaccination is because that is the only way these vaccines will work and then, when the more virulent strains emerge due to the leaks in the current vaccine, you will need another shot and another and another.

Here is an excerpt from a 2015 article in Science Magazine:

Most human vaccines in use today aren't "leaky"; they are very good at stopping disease transmission. But as researchers turn to diseases that are more difficult to protect against, such as malaria or HIV, they are setting their sights lower, aiming for vaccines that prevent severe disease but not infection. "We are entering the era of leaky vaccines in humans,” Read says. Candidate vaccines against Ebola or malaria—one of which recently received an important stamp of approval in Europe—should definitely be used if they are safe and effective, he says, but they could lead to more virulent pathogens. "We need to have a responsible discussion about this.”

But Read says that even if a human vaccine is ever shown to cause dangerous evolution of the pathogen, that wouldn't be a reason not to vaccinate. The most important thing would be to support vaccination with other measures that curb transmission, such as bed nets for malaria.

Ironically, increased virulence would make it even more important to vaccinate everyone, he says, because universal vaccination would prevent the more dangerous strains from harming anyone.


And, this Read guy is a perfect example of a pharma stooge. Look at his line of ( flawed and ridiculous ) "logic".

Even if vaccines cause dangerous evolution, that is no reason not to vaccinate.

I'd say that it is a pretty damned good reason.

Then "universal vaccination", which is impossible to attain in any fantasy world he is living in, would prevent more dangerous strains from harming everyone. What? Is the vaccine magical? Does it grow in potency as the virus becomes stronger? How would a weak and imperfect vaccine, that can't even stop the original pathogen possibly stop deadlier strains? It's ludicrous.

And, that ladies and gentlemen, is the state of modern day journalism. The fact that NO ONE calls this asshole out on his blatantly false, misleading and dangerous statements is criminal.

It's ironic that even the guy pushing hardest to use these irresponsible and deadly vaccines still encourages, "We need to have a responsible discussion about this.” ( Yes... Because you could end up creating a strain that wipes out mankind. )

Can anyone tell me when Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson&Johnson, Fauci, the CDC... ANYONE had this responsible discussion with the American people?

They are setting up every single American to being dependent on these vaccines for survival. What a great control mechanism.

And, they know EXACTLY what they are doing as there are mounds of data on this.
 
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