TECH ProtonMail Shares Activist's IP Address With Authorities Despite Its "No Log" Claims

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ProtonMail Shares Activist's IP Address With Authorities Despite Its "No Log" Claims
Ravie Lakshmanan
September 06, 2021


End-to-end encrypted email service provider ProtonMail has drawn criticism after it ceded to a legal request and shared the IP address of anti-gentrification activists with law enforcement authorities, leading to their arrests in France.

The Switzerland-based company said it received a "legally binding order from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice" related to a collective called Youth for Climate, which it was "obligated to comply with," compelling it to handover the IP address and information related to the type of device used by the group to access the ProtonMail account.

On its website, ProtonMail advertises that: "No personal information is required to create your secure email account. By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account. Your privacy comes first."



Despite its no IP logs claims, the company acknowledged that while it's illegal for the company to abide by requests from non-Swiss law enforcement authorities, it will be required to do so if Swiss agencies agree to assist foreign services such as Europol in their investigations.

"There was no possibility to appeal or fight this particular request because an act contrary to Swiss law did in fact take place (and this was also the final determination of the Federal Department of Justice which does a legal review of each case)," the company said in a lengthy response posted on Reddit.

Put simply, ProtonMail will not only have to comply with Swiss government orders, it will be forced to hand over data when individuals use the service to engage in activities that are deemed illegal in the country.

"Proton must comply with Swiss law. As soon as a crime is committed, privacy protections can be suspended and we're required by Swiss law to answer requests from Swiss authorities," ProtonMail founder and CEO Andy Yen tweeted, adding "It's deplorable that legal tools for serious crimes are being used in this way. But by law, [ProtonMail] must comply with Swiss criminal investigations. This is obviously not done by default, but only if legally forced."

If anything, ProtonMail users who are concerned about the visibility of their IP addresses should use a VPN or access the email service over the Tor network for additional anonymity.

"The prosecution in this case seems quite aggressive. Unfortunately, this is a pattern we have increasingly seen in recent years around the world (for example in France where terror laws are inappropriately used)," the company said.
 

justme

Senior Member
I currently use Protonmail, and this is a little disconcerting, any suggestions for something better?
 

Mtsilverback

Veteran Member
CTempler.com
It is located in Iceland with much stronger privacy laws and all mail in encrypted on the hard drive based on login password. Lose password and there is no recovery option. All data is lost.
So if there is a court order for the information they can not comply. Plus there are other option available.
 

juco

Veteran Member
CTempler.com
It is located in Iceland with much stronger privacy laws and all mail in encrypted on the hard drive based on login password. Lose password and there is no recovery option. All data is lost.
So if there is a court order for the information they can not comply. Plus there are other option available.

Same with Proton Mail, lose your password and poof! your account is inaccessible...to you. Apparently not to them.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Just like your average, everyday people...

Why yes my neighbor is looking a bit plump during this food shortage. Maybe he is hoarding food. I will investigate and turn them in to the authorities for an extra ration of gruel.

They are being selfish.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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You want complete Provacy cpnversation?

Go deep into a Cave-build a room with only one entrance and take the person with you and have the conversation. Be naked because Cell Phones and who knows what else, spy on you. Then kill yourself and the other person so there is no one to talk.
 

Sicario

The Executor
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