BRKG President Trump Signing Executive Order - Prescribing ObamaCare Workarounds

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After Congress Fails, Trump Issues Exec Order Prescribing ObamaCare Workarounds

Oct. 12, 2017 - Fox News

The White House announced Thursday that President Trump is taking executive action on health care as Congress stalls on efforts to overhaul ObamaCare, calling for a plan that could let employers band together and offer coverage across state lines.

An executive order Trump plans to sign Thursday morning aims to offer “alternatives” to ObamaCare plans and increase competition to bring down costs.

“The time has come to give Americans the freedom to purchase health insurance across state lines, which will create a truly competitive national marketplace that will bring costs way down and provide far better care,” Trump said in a statement.

According to officials, Trump will direct the secretary of labor to consider expanding access to Association Health Plans, which could allow employers to form groups across state lines offering coverage. According to the White House, these plans could offer lower rates.

Those "association health plans" could be shielded from some state and federal insurance requirements. But responding to concerns, the White House said participating employers could not exclude any workers from the plan, or charge more to those in poor health.

The order also calls on other federal agencies to consider expanding coverage in low-cost, short-term insurance plans not subject to ObamaCare rules.

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Dennis Olson

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Lurker is absolutely right. The Marxists can't allow 0bunghole care to disappear, because if that happens, the HNIC's legacy is just rampaging ghetto-nigs and burned-out stores.
 
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This was part of his platform when he ran for president. He said he was going to do this. Although my employer has already outlined next years’ plan choices and pretty much no changes in premiums for us. Not sure if it will be same coverage though.
 
Suzieq

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Allowing increase competition between Insurance Companies across State-lines, should bring down insurance costs, overtime and that's a good thing!

Since most employers have already picked an insurance company for their employees, those insurance premiums are already in place for 2018. Don't forget the wheels in Washington D.C. run slow, so who knows when new guide-lines will come down.
 
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Haybails

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Forgive my elementary question, but, what does this open up for me - an individual employee? For example, my employer provides a couple options from which I can choose my health care (actually, with increases in premiums and fees this year) . . . when do I, as the employee actually see a truly open option playing field with improved coverage and decreased cost?

This is not a argument against the original post . . . it's an honest question due to my not understanding the basics of insurance.


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jward

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Thomas wictor pinned a thread to his Twitter feed on July 28. In it, he lays out his argument that the way Roberts rules on Obama care provides a way in which Trump can undo o.care via EO.
 
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A great improvement.
Companies will now have more options for lower cost, with better and appropriate coverage.
Senator Rand Paul is on board with this program.
Conservatives are getting together, finally.
Winning!!
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More details and a view of the big strategy.
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Trump clears way for ObamaCare 'alternatives' in new executive order, goes around stalled Congress

President Trump signs executive order on health care which he says will allow millions and millions of people to sign up for 'great health care.'

President Trump on Thursday took executive action on health care, calling for a plan that could let employers band together and offer coverage across state lines as Congress stalls on efforts to overhaul ObamaCare.

“So this is promoting health care, choice and competition all across the United States,” Trump said as he signed the order in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. “This is going to be something that millions and millions of people will be signing up for and they're going to be very happy. This will be great health care.”

The president described the executive order as “the first steps to providing millions of Americans with ObamaCare relief.” He said he isn't giving up on getting lawmakers to repeal the law.

“We are going to also pressure Congress very strongly to finish the repeal and the replace of ObamaCare once and for all," Trump said.

The executive order aims to offer “alternatives” to ObamaCare plans and increase competition to bring down costs, the White House said.

The president was joined at the signing by several Republican lawmakers, including Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who called it “the biggest free market reform of health care in a generation.”

“This reform, if it works and goes as planned, will allow millions of people to get insurance across state lines at an inexpensive price,” Paul said.

TRUMP'S HEALTH CARE EXECUTIVE ORDER: WHAT TO KNOW

Trump said he will direct the secretary of labor to consider expanding access to Association Health Plans, which could allow employers to form groups across state lines offering coverage. The White House says these plans could offer lower rates.

“Insurance companies will be fighting to get every single person signed up," Trump said. "And you will hopefully be negotiating, negotiating, negotiating. And you'll get such low prices for such great care. Should have been done a long time ago and it could have been done a long time ago.”

Those "association health plans" could be shielded from some state and federal insurance requirements. But responding to concerns, the White House said participating employers could not exclude any workers from the plan, or charge more to those in poor health.

The order also calls on other federal agencies to consider expanding coverage in low-cost, short-term insurance plans not subject to ObamaCare rules.

It's unlikely to reverse the trend of insurers exiting state markets. About half of U.S. counties will have only one ObamaCare insurer next year, although it appears that no counties will be left without a carrier as was initially feared.

The move comes after congressional Republicans repeatedly have been unable to pass legislation repealing or reforming the Affordable Care Act, which critics say has led to rising premiums and diminishing coverage options – in some cases forcing consumers to lose their previous plans and doctors. Trump’s executive order could clear the way for cheaper, more bare-bones insurance policies.

Trump's order is likely to encounter opposition from medical associations, consumer groups and even insurers -- the same coalition that has blocked congressional Republicans. They say it would raise costs for the sick, while the lower-premium coverage for healthy people would come with significant gaps.



Cori Uccello, a senior health fellow for the American Academy of Actuaries, told Fox News that an issue with AHPs is regulation.

“There’s uncertainty of who is going to have oversight in terms of consumer protection. What redress does a consumer have, appeals processes, those kinds of things,” she said.

White House domestic policy director Andrew Bremberg told reporters during a conference call Thursday that the executive order is necessary because ObamaCare has caused “costs to skyrocket.”

Bremberg acknowledged Trump’s order could affect tens of millions of Americans and said the administration also intends to take “additional actions” on health care in the months to come.

The administration is hopeful these actions could be implemented within six months, a senior administration official said, but it could take longer to finalize.

Fox News' Kaitlyn Schallhorn and Serafin Gomez and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...utive-order-goes-around-stalled-congress.html
 
PghPanther

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What I would like to know since I don't have health care coverage if I'm going to get hit with that penalty in my tax return again or if this executive order gets rid of that penalty or not?
 
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Haybails said:
Forgive my elementary question, but, what does this open up for me - an individual employee?
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You always have the option of declining your employer's coverage. You might be able to negotiate a raise if you go without. If you're healthy right now, you may be able to buy a low cost/low benefit plan that the president's EO now authorizes. You (and other currently-healthy people) will be able to get lower cost plans under the new EO.

The rest of us will likely face higher premiums as the low-cost clients are skimmed off the general insurance pool. Obamacare lumped everyone into regional insurance pools. That's why the applications for coverage went from 5-7 pages down to one; they didn't have to evaluate each individual's condition; only the health of people in North Carolina, for instance.

If you're currently healthy, you could get a cheap policy under the new plan. I don't know the particulars of the EO but if it removes insurers from the rules of Obamacare, they could dump you if you get sick, the way it used to be before Obamacare.

Corrected to add:

The presidential EO allows government agencies to study the policy of allowing employers to band together to bargain for health insurance policies that would cover their employees.

I thought it was hilarious that Pence 46 had to remind Trump to actually sign the EO before exiting the room. the edited version is on Faux News, check out the full length CNN version.
 
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sunny225

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jward said:
Thomas wictor pinned a thread to his Twitter feed on July 28. In it, he lays out his argument that the way Roberts rules on Obama care provides a way in which Trump can undo o.care via EO.
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I don't know who Thomas Wictor is but executive orders are NOT law. They can't override a law that Congress passed.
 
Be Well

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Maybe if I keep reading more I'll get it.

BREAKING: Trump to Dismantle Obamacare by Executive Order Tomorrow Morning

http://offendedamerica.com/trump-dismantle-obamacare-executive-order-thursday-morning/

Published 17 hours ago on October 11, 2017 By Jacob Wohl

President Trump is set to sign an executive order on Thursday morning which will remove many of the most controversial rules and regulations of Obamacare.
This comes after multiple failed attempts for Obamacare repeal and replace bills to pass through the Republican-majority Senate.
Zerohedge Reports: Tomorrow at 11:15am, President Trump will sign an executive order aimed at taking action on health care, or as the White House put it, “to promote health care choice and competition”, after Congress’s failure to repeal ObamaCare. The order – which is expected to further weaken Obamacare – should, in theory, ease rules on small businesses banding together to buy health insurance, through what are known as association health plans, and lift Obama administration limits on short-term health insurance plans, according to a source on a call with administration officials Wednesday night.

According to The Hill’s sources*, the order will direct the Department of Labor to “modernize” rules to allow small employers to create association health plans. Small businesses will be able to band together if they are within the same state, in the same “line of business,” or are in the same trade association.

Needless to say, this latest attempt to dismantle Obamacare did not make the likes of Andy Slavitt, who ran Medicare, Madicaid and Obamacare under Obama, happy, and he took to twitter to make it clear:

It isn’t clear what made it into the final version of the EO: a rhetorical step or a severe dismantling of the ACA. 2/

— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) October 12, 2017​

*Officials detail Trump executive order on health care coming Thursday

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...executive-order-on-healthcare-coming-thursday

PETER SULLIVAN - 10/11/17 08:33 PM EDT

President Trump will sign an executive order on Thursday morning aimed at taking action on health care after Congress's failure to repeal ObamaCare.

The order will ease rules on small businesses banding together to buy health insurance, through what are known as association health plans, and lift Obama administration limits on short-term health insurance plans, according to a source on a call with administration officials Wednesday night.

The order will direct the Department of Labor to "modernize" rules to allow small employers to create association health plans, the source said. Small businesses will be able to band together if they are within the same state, in the same "line of business" or are in the same trade association.

It does not appear that the order will go as far as some Democrats feared, though. Democrats are worried that the order will undermine the stability of ObamaCare markets because healthy people will be attracted to the cheaper, new association health plans, which do not have the same protections, leaving only sicker people remaining in ObamaCare plans.

However, it does not seem that individuals will be eligible to join the association health plans, which would be a more sweeping move. The source said administration officials did not mention individuals joining the association health plans, only referring to small businesses being able to join.

That would steer the changes clear of disrupting the individual market, which is the core of ObamaCare. [WHAT DOES THIS MEAN??]

The order will lift Obama administration limits on short-term health insurance plans, allowing the plans to last as long as 12 months and be renewed. The change to short-term health insurance could damage the stability of ObamaCare.

The fear from Democrats is that healthier people will migrate to cheaper, short-term plans, leaving only sicker people in ObamaCare plans and driving up premiums.

The source said the new rules for short-term plans are where administration officials think the order will have the "most immediate impact."

The order will also allow people to use tax-advantaged accounts known as health reimbursement accounts to pay for their premiums.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing for this order for months, arguing that allowing small businesses to band together to buy insurance gives them leverage to lower premiums. Paul is expected to be in attendance at the unveiling at the White House on Thursday.
 
pinkelsteinsmom

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sunny225 said:
I don't know who Thomas Wictor is but executive orders are NOT law. They can't override a law that Congress passed.
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What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Ohole flung them around like gorilla dung, now it is TRUMPS turn to play the game for us.
 
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