[preps] Links and threads???

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
It may be time to resurect the original purpose of TB2K (well, ok the SECOND purpose, since the ORIGINAL was for feedback to Ed on his book's first edition.) and start hunting down our prep links and threads.

Since i AM the (ok self appointed) Board Gadfly, and damn lazy to boot, I am going to ask that folks respond to this post in THIS thread with links (preferrably, with one exception to be noted below) to threads and sites that have a high usability in helping people who have NOT started to prep or ONLY JUST started to THINK about preparedness, to get started and to do some MEANINGFUL preparations in, well, let's use 3 weeks as a good timeframe.


with the exception of the fact that I am going to both Link to and copy Stan Farina's 14 Days of Spam thread from the original board, please post links rather than lengthy articles.


(and dancr would you please link to your lists?? they are damn near the most comprehensive on the web.)

Now, i'll go find Stan's creation, and post it in a bit. it's YOUR turn, so don't all jump at once.....

Here is where it is.....Prep forum.....Linkk seems to be REALLY spacey. Have tried 3 times using VB to set it and it doesn't want to go.

You are going to have to cut and paste it. thoiugh STAN's link works.

Cr


http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=TimeBomb%202000%20%28Y2000%29%20Preparation%20Forum


Warning. Posting a question there may not result in an answer. But there is a LOT of GOOD info....


CND







Stan's "First 14 days of Preps"
 
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Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Meemur's Top Three Recommendations

- If you have very limited money and don't know how to cook basic foods from scratch, Robert Waldrop's site will help. Robert is also the "Printable Flyers Guy," and, yes, the flyers have been updated and are still there. There is an excellent one-month food prep list for those with extremely limited means among the printable flyers:

Emergency Pantry Supplies Flyer: (HTML version)

http://www.justpeace.org/printbudget.htm

Main Page:

http://www.bettertimesinfo.org/

- Below is Fuzzy's shopping list, for those who like long checklists:

http://home.att.net/~ofuzzy1/shopping.htm

- The link below is the free online Survival Library. While this is not an absolute beginner's site, there is so much material here that it's worth a mention in any collection of prep links:

http://www.logicsouth.com/~lcoble/password/survival.html
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
For those of you who might wonder, i have been having some off board discussions with some folks, both posters and not, in the recent past.

That 3 week time frame was NOT chosen at random.

The data crossing MY desk suggests that 3 weeks MIGHT be on the OUTSIDE of the range.

The data I have ALSO suggests that, while there is a statistical probability that it will NOT get ugly, the more inteligent money is NOT betting that way.

Again, pays yer money and takes yer chances.


chuck
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Thanks, CD. I was just looking for that link. Sally has added a section on rice cookers.
 

Onebyone

Inactive
In a three week period if you have the funds and allot the time to it you can accomplish much.

Here are some sites that may help with education and how to prep. Then go do it. Don't just learn it forever, act.

Homesteading, gardening, seed saving and other info
http://www.manytracks.com/home.htm

Lots of good info. A check first site. Has a two week food plan on what to stock. How to purify water etc.
http://members.aol.com/keninga/links2.htm

Preparedness nuggets. A good deal of good infomation.
http://www.justpeace.org/nuggetsindex.htm

A site of links of all descriptions regarding all subjects of preparedness.
http://www.cairns.net.au/~sharefin/Markets/Alternative.htm

Shopping and storing food lists and other info. Another good place to start.
http://www.y2kkitchen.com/
 
Here's a handy link, and while it's not exactly "prep" related, it helps you figure out what to DO with what you've got in your pantry. Handy for folks who don't ordinarily use a lot of "prep" items in their everyday cooking.

How many of us have looked at an absolutely stocked larder/pantry and said, "What in the heck am I going to fix?" I know I have, many times.


http://www.cookingbynumbers.com/search.html
 

Ken Todd

Contributing Member
Over the last couple of years I have been slowly building up supplies. I still consider myself a rookie though. These are sites I have purchased from.

Military Surplus/Disaster Preparedness/Camping
http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/

Dehydrated Food and Food Storage
http://waltonfeed.com/

Freeze Dried/Dehydrated/Ready to Eat Food
http://www.aa-foods.com/

Sprouting Seeds and Supplies
http://www.sproutpeople.com/

Cook it on a Volcano Sove
http://www.rmvolcano.com/

Survival, Preparedness, Camping
http://www.southsummit.com/
http://www.survivalinstinct.com/

Anti-Rad Pills
http://www.ki4u.com

Sleeping Bags/Outdoor Gear (Cold Weather)
http://www.wiggys.com/

Lanterns (check out the LPG Radio Lantern)
http://lanternnet.com/

Portable Shortwave Radios
http://www.universal-radio.com/index.html

I focused first on water (in never rains in southern kalifornia),
food and cooking supplies. I then considered getting mobile as a possible scenario. Water remains a HUGE concern.
 

Deep Blue Dragon

Senior Member
Here is a good source of recipies using canned ingredients:
http://www.mealtime.org/recipes/

One of the big mistakes that I made for Y2K was stocking up on things that we didn't actually eat. A HUGE amount of stuff went to the local food bank after rollover.

My new prep strategy has been a three-pronged approach: store short-term prep items (canned goods that we LIKE) plus long-term storage items (bulk grains in 5-gal buckets with oxygen absorbers) plus long-haul survival items: garden seeds and rabbits.

This required that we stock up heavily on canned goods that we actually eat and thus rotate the stock. Some good recipies are posted on the link I gave.

The other "canned goods" cookbook that I use most frequently is "The Y2K Recipe Collection" by Anni McClung. I haven't tried her email lately but it was: Cooking2k@webtv.net.
 

driveshesaid

Inactive
Bump again.

Thank you all. I've been trying to do some of this hunting down links, and have been getting pretty lost in the archives. Thanks.

drive
 

Synap

Deceased
chuck--we had a HI-PRI [PREP] links thread going for a long while. Had mucho links, many from posts/posters back on the old TB incarnation. Can't find it now sigh.

Health preps
US Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine
Goldmine Preventive Medicine source...stuff to bank your life on
http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/

BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AND ITS CUTANEOUS
MANIFESTATIONS
http://telemedicine.org/BioWar/biologic.htm

CDC Special Pathegens Branch (all ya never wanted to know)
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/vhf.htm

Martindale's Health Science Guide Veterinary Center (this site has much more..a vitual reference desk)
http://www-sci.lib.uci.edu/HSG/Vet.html

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Hagan's Food Storage Masterpiece
http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/index.htm

FOOD for SELF_RELIANCE a master list of food and food tools sources/links
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7731/food.html

THE HOME-MADE STOVE ARCHIVES
http://wings.interfree.it/html/main.html

Tobacco bulk
http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/index.htm
http://www.stuffyourown.com/

Dried fruit
http://www13.ivenue.com/paysonfruitgrowers/B_final_online_store.html

Dried Foods - Bulk (1000+ products)
http://www.bulkfoods.com/products.asp

Jerky recipes
http://www.alljerky.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

Vet supplies (non-script antibiotic and other med source_
www.vetmedirect.com
http://www.lambriarvet.com
http://www.valleyvet.com/

Bulk herbs, seeds, powders, roots, etc
http://www.herbalcom.com/

12V Swamp coolers
http://www.swampy.net

Ceramic Gravity Water Filters from Doulton
http://www.pwgazette.com/gravity.htm

Water Tanks/Barrels
http://www.watertanks.com/
http://barrels-direct.hypermart.net/products.htm

Water filter product reviews
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/kitchen/water_filters/reviews.html

Water well info, pumps and drilling
http://www.lifewater.ca/ndexman.htm

JC Whitney Vehicle parts
http://www.jcwhitney.com/

RV parts
http://www.rvshop.com/rvmall/
http://www.rv-parts-accessories.com/

Handyman around the house
http://www.handymanusa.com/
http://doityourself.com/
http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/index.asp

Electrical appliance fixit
http://www.bithose.com/serfaq/REPAIR/F_appfaq.html

Topo maps
http://www.topozone.com/default.asp

Custom map creating
http://www.aquarius.geomar.de/omc/omc_intro.html
 
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amishmum

Inactive
Chuck

For the slow starters who need to get things done in a hurry there is always this link:

www.disastermagazine.com


Covers everything. They have a Survival Handbook which is basic and easy to follow. Covers from prep food items to how not to make yourself conspicuous to others who may have not prepped. Great resource. Other items covered at this site also include safety issues and how to survive bear attacks and alligator attacks. We have printed out the handbpook and have it in as a handy reference to check up on things. Never can be too sure.:D
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
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sierra don

Veteran Member
Here is my current link list.....

Prep Links
Modern Survival

Nuclear War Survival Skills

wilderness-survival.net

Miltary Manuals

Alpha Disaster Contingencies

Major Surplus & Survival

Stay Alive

Preparedness Nuggets Pages

Survivalism

BagelHole.org

Military Field Manuals

THE RANGER DIGESTS

Backwoods Home Magazine

Do It Yourself

Territorial Seed Company

Electricity from wood waste

American Science & Surplus

Nitro-Pak

MOUNTAIN BROOK FOODS

Walton's Complete Online Catalog

Bulk Foods

Eden Organic Nursery (seeds)

Home Power magazine

The Sportsman's Guide


Firearm Links
SPIRIT OF '76 Gun Page

TAPCO

AMMOMAN

Front Sight


Online Tools
Terra Server

Sam Spade

The Invisable Web

Babelfish Translater

National Atlas of the United States


Welcome to the latest version of Search Systems at www.searchsystems.net. We were the first and continue to be the largest collection of free public records on the internet. The purpose of this site is to help you to find the public record information you need in order to make important decisions.Search Systems.net


Other Stuff
Sierra times

Lights on in yer heads, people! Those of ya out there that’d still like this country to be the Republic it was supposed to be before the leftist sneakweenies among us took over......
Minority Mike - The Trouble With Beavers

the Patriot Network

Ever Vigilant.net


our purpose...
American Freedom Net, Inc. is dedicated to upholding the noble Christian and patriotic heritage of our honorable Founding Fathers of the United States of America. As a news reporting organization, we zealously guard the historic roots of this great nation under God. We affirm our commitment to the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution of the United States of America. We believe our rights come from God - not government. We believe it is the duty and responsibility of all citizens to safeguard our freedoms and liberties from all forms of tyranny - including the tyranny of a national news media that has made an alliance with national and international political and corporate interests to abolish the sovereignty of the USA and force Old Glory to bow to a global governmental system based in the United States.
American Freedom News


Well that about does it......

sierra don
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
3 weeks puts you SQUARELY into the first week of September...

The satelite fotos of Al Udeid Air base show it to be danged near completion and EASILY the rival of Prince Ibn Sultan Air Base....

There are satelite fotos of other locations in the Gulf that show that the Leviathan AWAKENS....

MANY of the folks I talk to, on and off forum, are looking at the first week in Sept as an action date for the US...

And ALL of the folks referred to above expect that, at the start of whatever, the sleeper cells that ARE here and have NOT been compromised or rolled up, WILL activate, and we WILL see MULTIPLE, infrastructure damaging and destroying terrorist attacks across the country.

It will have been a year, and THIS Leviathan takes AT LEAST that long to mobilize and motivate.



chuck
 

Dancr

Inactive
night driver said: <I>dancr would you please link to your lists?? they are damn near the most comprehensive on the web</i>

Chuck, sorry I'm only finding this thread for the first time after having done a rare search on my own handle in hot persuit of a lost thread.

Here is the entry point to the A la Carte site that I think would be of most interest to the folks that are the target of this thread:

<a href="http://www.lacarte.org/calamity/preps/">Preparations, à la Carte</a>

Included at the top of that page are links to the "list" type pages that are probably triggering your praise, including the immensely popular

<a href="http://www.lacarte.org/calamity/purchases/">Calamity Purchases, à la Carte</a>

(It's the second most popular page at our site, and more popular, even, than the main splash page for the entire site!)

Most important of all, I think, on that entry-point page is the brief motivational statement which serves as the introduction to the page:

<i>Fortunately, there is a great deal of overlap in what the most appropriate preparations are for a wide variety of potential calamities. That makes it easier to go ahead and get started without having to waste energy on figuring which problems are most likely. Fine tuning can wait until after we have taken care of some of the basics.</i>

This thread has a lot of great information that I haven't seen before! I'll be adding it to A la Carte beginning tonight. And this time, I'm not going to put it off, as I did last time. On that note, can anyone find the HI PRI thread along these same lines that was also very good? I intended to explore it further and I have lost it.

<img align=left src="http://www.lacarte.org/images/miniminipearl.gif">From: <a href="http://www.lacarte.org/calamity/">Calamity, à la Carte</a><font size=-2><a href="http://www.lacarte.org/about/copyrights/">©</a></font> by <a href="http://www.lacarte.org/tracie/">Dancr</a> (<a href="http://www.lacarte.org/about/monalisa">pic</a>), near <a href="http://www.monterey.com/">Monterey</a>, <a href="http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000Hgd"> California</a>-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·</i></c></a></b><a NAME="dancrend"></a>
 

offline

Membership Revoked
Not a link, but a couple of suggestions that might keep you and yours alive on the cheap if the big ugly lands in our collective front yard.

First, if you haven't already done so, get yourself a one troy ounce ".999 silver round", three nine volt alkaline batteries (or more than three, in multiples of three), some wire, a battery clip, two alligator clips, some rosin-core solder, a funnel, some coffee filters, and a lot of distilled water.

Cut the silver round in half. Cut the wire in half. Cut the battery clip in half. Solder one end of each wire to an alligator clip, and solder the other to a terminal on the battery clip.

Rig up a holder out of toothpicks, popsicle sticks, plastic, twigs, or whatever non-conductive materials you have available.

Put the tip of each half-round into the tip of the alligator clips. (One half-round per clip.)

Suspend them in a glass or jar of distilled water. Make sure that only the silver touches the water. You do not want any non-silver metal touching the water! I cannot overemphasize this enough.

Next, connect the three batteries to each other. Snap the male of one battery into the female of the next, and then repeat, until you have the three batteries snapped together, with one empty terminal at each end of the stack. Snap the battery clip halves onto the matching battery terminal.

Wait 15 minutes or so. You should see some sludgy/scummy stuff.

Taste it. It should taste kinda yucky, reminiscent of old dishwater. :) If it has the sludgy stuff and tastes kinda foul, it's done.

Put the filter in the funnel, put the funnel into an empty glass or jar, and pour the liquid through the filter.

When you are done, you will have a nice mess of colloidal silver, at a cost of probably less than a penny a gallon. Cost of one ounce silver round -- a lifetime supply -- maybe five bucks. Cost of three batteries (on ebay or some other discountish venue), maybe 3 bucks. The batteries will probably last for years, because you're not drawing much more than leakage current from them.

What you do with the CS is up to you, I am not going to give out medical advice. :)

Second suggestion: hie thee to thy bean repository, and do vitality tests on each batch of dry beans in your possession. Do the same for any whole grains you've got on hand.

If you get good results (if most of the seeds germinate within a few days and grow robust sprouts), and if you've got enough of them, then you're set. If you don't get good results, go buy more beans and grains -- and test each lot's vitality before committing to buying a large quantity from that batch.

The seeds that won't give acceptable germination results should be reserved for standard applications (grinding/cooking). The ones that do sprout nicely should be used for sprouting.

Sprouted legumes and grains are like eating fresh vegetables, only better. They have much higher nutrient levels than just about anything else on earth, and you can "farm" them year round in any environment.

You don't need anything fancy to grow sprouts. Mason jars (or any jars), with the lids replaced by window screen (clean screen, please!), or even squares cut from pantyhose.

Pick through them (remove rocks, bugs, obviously "bad" seeds that are split or broken or bug-eaten), then rinse and drain. Then soak overnight. The next morning, drain. Make sure you leave plenty of room for expansion when putting the dry beans into the jars.

Then, rinse and drain several times a day. How many times is not critical, and I don't think you can overdo it, but even once or twice a day will probably suffice.

Do not keep them in the dark! (And don't keep them in the fridge either!)

You don't want to have the bloated, blanched, waterlogged "store bought" variety of tasteless/nutrient-free sprouts. You want to have sprouts that are smaller, chewier, tastier, and green! When light hits them, photosynthesis will enable their vitamin and enzyme factories to kick into gear, and that's what you want.

It should go without saying that if you're thinking "ugh, beansprouts!" on the basis of an experience with the garbage found in cans and the vegetable aisle of the grocery store, you are in for a major shock. Those worthless sprouts are grown in a reduced atmosphere pressure, in the dark, to produce large, waterlogged, blanched sprouts of "commercial quality". They are to the kind of sprouts we're growing as whitebread is to "the staff of life".

Grains are a little different. When you're sprouting grains, do not let them grow much longer than the seed itself, or they'll turn into a stringy, tasteless mass that is nigh impossible to eat.

Another thing about grain sprouts (at least wheat, which is the only one I've tried this with) -- if you take them (once sprouted) and put them in the fridge (this will stop the sprouting process with beans or grains, and let you keep them for several days instead of having them grow past their prime), and then leave them there for a few days, they will produce a sweet flavor not unlike sweetcorn!

It's a very nice treat! (And one that's good for ya!)

You can also serve sprouts to your livestock. I've read that livestock really thrive on them. (I think the studies I read of were on poultry and cattle, and I can't recall where I read them, maybe someone else has a link.) As I remember it, the livestock grew faster and healthier on less feed when the feed was sprouted instead of being given to them dry.

I haven't tried this yet but I fully intend to do so for our poultry and goats.

I've worked up the design for an el-cheap "bulk sprouter" in my mind and plan on "building" one shortly. Take two 5 gallon plastic buckets. Clean them. Drill lots of holes in the bottom of one bucket. Cut a round piece of clean windowscreen the size of the bottom of the bucket, and place it into the bucket with the holes.

Put your dry seeds into the bucket with the screen. Fill the other bucket with water. Nestle the bucket with the seeds into the bucket with the water, and cover it with a piece of screen to allow air to ventilate but keep bugs out.

Soak overnight, then lift the seed bucket out of the water bucket, empty the water bucket, and then put the seed bucket into the water bucket. You could also use a shortcut -- remove the seed bucket from the water bucket, let it drain, and then several times a day dip it into the water bucket for maybe 30 seconds, then remove it and let it drain. You might want to cut some notches through the "ring" at the bottom of the seed bucket to allow water that drains from the bottom to escape instead of pooling up (and possibly molding).

Enjoy!

(Edited to add that you should REMOVE the wires from the batteries when you are not actually making the CS! If they short out, they might cause enough heat to start a fire, or leak their contents, or, as happened to us before my wife knew not to leave them connected :), they will definitely kill the batteries in short order!)

(Edited again to add that the reason I said to get three batteries or more than three in multiples of three was so that you'd have spares, and not that you should connect more than three at any time! Do NOT connect MORE than three batteries together!)

(Edited one final time to add a half-suggestion): You can make "wheat grass" by "planting" wheat in a flower pot, a roasting pan, or anything else you've got handy. Fill it with good soil (pre-moistened if it's dry), then sprinkle a liberal amount of wheat on top. There should be enough seeds so that they're nearly touching. If some do touch, that's OK, it's not critical.

Press the wheat into the dirt, and then put an eighth inch or so of dirt on top of the seeds (depth not super critical), and press down.

Water frequently enough to prevent it from drying out.

Inside of a few days you'll have blades of wheat grass growing. It will remain tender until it's fairly tall, maybe 6 or 8 inches. If you have cats, they will love "grazing" on it. So much, in fact, that if you want to keep any for yourself, you'll have to keep it where your cats can't get near it. It's good for them too, and they won't puke it up like they do when they eat lawn grass.

If you have a wheat grass juicer, you can make wheat grass juice. If not, you can just cut it with a scissors eat it like a fresh vegetable. It's very nutritious.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I am OVERJOYED to see that I maintain a perfect track record on predictions... 0 for however many.


Chuck, who thinks you all MIGHT want to continue to add links etc.
 

amishmum

Inactive
I second that opinion. However, we're not out of September yet. Then again there was October of last year on a bright, sunny Sunday morning when we went into Afghanistan. Yup good idea to add to those prep links. In this instance glad for your track record.:D Nothing like more time to PREP
 

offline

Membership Revoked
Here's some decent info on sprouts (from the International Sprout Growers Association).

This is the nutrition page (I belive the vitamin numbers on that page and the linked table are based on "store bought" type sprouts, and you'll get even higher levels when you let the sun hit them):

http://www.isga-sprouts.org/nutritio.htm

Excerpt:

<blockquote>It is really only in the past thirty years that "westerners" have become interested in sprouts and sprouting. During World War II considerable interest in sprouts was sparked in the United States by an article written by Dr. Clive M. McKay, Professor of Nutrition at Cornell University. Dr. McKay led off with this dramatic announcement: "Wanted! A vegetable that will grow in any climate, will rival meat in nutritive value, will mature in 3 to 5 days, may be planted any day of the year, will require neither soil nor sunshine, will rival tomatoes in Vitamin C, will be free of waste in preparation and can be cooked with little fuel and as quickly as a ... chop."

Dr. McKay was talking about soybean sprouts. He and a team of nutritionists had spent years researching the amazing properties of sprouted soybeans. They and other researchers at the universities of Pennsylvania and Minnesota, Yale and McGill have found that sprouts retain the B-complex vitamins present in the original seed, and show a big jump in Vitamin A and an almost unbelievable amount of Vitamin C over that present in unsprouted seeds. While some nutritionists point out that this high vitamin content is gained at the expense of some protein loss, the figures are impressive: an average 300 percent increase in Vitamin A and a 500 to 600 percent increase in Vitamin C. In addition, in the sprouting process starches are converted to simple sugars, thus making sprouts easily digested.</blockquote>

Here's their main page, lots of interesting links: http://www.isga-sprouts.org/index.html
 

Landrover

Contributing Member
Man even after reading this board for several years you all still suprise me with your links and ideas.I'm comparing my links to see what I have that is any different. This thread with a good library, including printed out copies of these sites may just save your life.
I have a web tool called web dumper that allows me to copy the whole site at just put it on my computer for CD production later. Maybe it is time to make a CD or two with all this info that has been listed
 

Blu3duk

Contributing Member
making a stove

For a lightweight survival stove you can manufacture in your spare? time, and add to your pack and vehicles, there is a variety of different ones found here all from folks who are dedicated ultralightweight backpackers...

http://wings.interfree.it/html/main.html

make one and learn to use it beofre you have to, in fact test any and all your gear every so often to prevent failure of certain parts of your kits.....

survival isnt what we do after someting goes wrong, its preparing in case that something happens in the first place!
 
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