CHAT Pray a little for me. I'm embarking on a course of action thats gonna cause the stirring of a hornets nest.

Loretta Van Riet

Trying to hang out with the cool kids.
Adding my prayers of protection. I'm thinking of when iboya had neighbors that would back their cars onto her property to exit easier. She had boulders placed. They were not happy. I think she moved?
 
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Cabinfvr

Contributing Member
I called code enforcement on a neighbor once. The inspector cited my neighbor and then said what's good for the goose is also good for the gander. He cited me for fire wood sitting on the ground. I had it cut and stacked very neatly but he made me build racks to raise it 2 feet off the ground.
Make sure your ducks are in order before you make the call.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Prayers from this corner, as well. I don't know the circumstances -- whether it's better to fight them or move -- but bear in mind that in 2023, there are a lot of people with zero to lose.

For that reason, I'd probably look into moving, but that's me . . .
 

Signwatcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Will be praying about justice for this situation and protection.

When I was snooping around trying to find out (for free online) about Fiancee, when we first met online and before we met in person, I discovered a LOT of police records associated with his name.

Asked him about them because he claimed to be a good guy (he absolutely is), but you have to get them. He had assured me that he would answer any questions I had.

Some were from his Ex going after him for child support for their blind , deaf Son AFTER she made sure he didn't have a pot to pee in and was living out of his car. She took the house and got total custody of the Son. She got everything except his older model jalopy. Yeah, she's a real gem and so far has avoided me at family gatherings.

The others were vehicle violations because he had no money to pay for plates, drivers license, etc AND a dispute with a neighbor next to a rental he had after he got on his feet a bit.

Over 72 calls to the Cops and he only made two of them.

Happily, the owner of the house is a retired lawyer. She sued him and won. He sold the house and moved away.

The retelling of events proved Fiancee is a good guy and in no way, shape, or form, a pushover. The lousy neighbor is a dangerous jerk and a PITA.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Lot of things I learned in life
Top three
Don’t fish on the company dock translates to don’t put your meat where you make your potatoes
Never loan money to a friend. Give it to them to keep the friend
Never screw with a neighbor if your not prepared to be screwed with in kind

That being said
Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do

Good luck
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
You sound like me. Go for it! I'm not the nicest neighbor anymore. I don't like dogs running on my property, chasing deer, etc. Garme wardens say it's illegal too. I let my chicken's free range; any dog who kills them, will be killed too.
I still remember the day one of his dogs got into my yard and killed the most favorite chicken I ever had. Most chickens have sort of a personality. That girl was special. She would rush out of the coop and leap into my lap and snuggle. His damn dogs got out and came thru the fencing and bit her. I crawled under the front porch where she hid. Got her out. The damn dog bite had gone into her back air sacs. She whistled with every breath. It was apparent she wasn't long for this world, so I put her down. And then there's the day my sister decided I couldn't take care of my girls and hired some guy to take them all. My soul died that day. It's like my whole family is embarrassed cause I live out in the boonies and want to do my things, not theirs. My astrology chart shows I am a quintuple Scorpio, with planets from 12th house on Into nearly the 2nd house.
And I am my OWN person. I seem to embarrass the family. And I don't give a shite. I'm getting maudlin now, so I'll stop.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
we used to own real estate, we kept the properties very nice, clean and tidy, and then Karen moved in. Karen found all sorts of shit that we never even knew could be wrong with our properties.

Apparently back in the day when Sears and Roebuck brought these houses in ONLY three trees were envisioned on the lawn... our rental had five... a Maple, a Redbud, and three pear trees... so on and so forth. FYI this was a HUGE corner lot.

Don't be a Karen cause we'll find out all sorts of shit about you that you don't want going public... just saying... BTW I destroyed our particular Karen. :)
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I still remember the day one of his dogs got into my yard and killed the most favorite chicken I ever had. Most chickens have sort of a personality. That girl was special. She would rush out of the coop and leap into my lap and snuggle. His damn dogs got out and came thru the fencing and bit her. I crawled under the front porch where she hid. Got her out. The damn dog bite had gone into her back air sacs. She whistled with every breath. It was apparent she wasn't long for this world, so I put her down. And then there's the day my sister decided I couldn't take care of my girls and hired some guy to take them all. My soul died that day. It's like my whole family is embarrassed cause I live out in the boonies and want to do my things, not theirs. My astrology chart shows I am a quintuple Scorpio, with planets from 12th house on Into nearly the 2nd house.
And I am my OWN person. I seem to embarrass the family. And I don't give a shite. I'm getting maudlin now, so I'll stop.
I’m so sorry.
People can be SO cruel.
And you’re NOT an embarrassment!!
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Neighbor wars are some of the most miserable tar-babies people can entangle themselves with. I'd advise not to escalate the situation unless you are willing to risk finding your dog's head in your mailbox, tires slashed, gas tank sugared, or your house torched some fine morning.

And if you want chickens, get some chickens.
 
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Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Neighbor wars are some of the most miserable tar-babies people can entangle themselves with. I'd advise not to escalate the situation unless you are willing to risk finding your dog's head in your mailbox, tires slashed, gas tank sugared, or your house torched some fine morning.

And if you want chickens, get some chickens.
That is the best advice. Stay off the radar. We have been in that situation before and were fortunate to have out waited them. There used to be a book called Don't get mad, get even or something like that. It was published by the survivalist people Paladin Press. Think outside the box.
The Revenge Encyclopedia by Paladin Press available on Ace Books 27 bucks used. A compilation of all their books.
 
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summerthyme

Administrator
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Neighbor wars are some of the most miserable tar-babies people can entangle themselves with. I'd advise not to escalate the situation unless you are willing to risk finding your dog's head in your mailbox, tires slashed, gas tank sugared, or your house torched some fine morning.

And if you want chickens, get some chickens.
Yep.

There was a woman who wrote for Hoards Dairyman magazine for years... a regular monthly journal about their life on the farm.

She suddenly disappeared, and several months later, wrote a final column, explaining.

They had a herd of registered Jersey cattle, and a neighbor (not next door... half a mile away or so) with uncontrolled dogs. They tried to work with the guy, gave him extra chances, but one morning, they found a cow who had been giving birth in the night on pasture, and the dogs had chewed up the half-born calf AND the back end of the cow, killing both.

The husband went over to the neighbor's to give him an ultimatum... apparently telling him he was going to the police... and the neighbor shot him dead. He was 28, with 3 small kids.

The neighbor tried to claim self defense, and I remember how heartbreaking it was to read how she told the cops she knew every mark on his farmer's hands, and he had NO new scrapes or bruises on his knuckles... there was no way he had punched the neighbor.

The thing is, people like this may not care for their dogs, may abuse them or neglect them. But they are just enough "off" psychologically that they lose it completely if someone tries to take them.

Be very careful! If possible, let the authorities handle it, and keep your identity out of it!

Summerthyme
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
My favorite idea living in a mostly Mexican neighborhood is to put out flyers mentioning the person might be a sex offender.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Do not engage this guy yourself, I had a friend that was shot and killed by his neighbor in the back because of many arguments that his neighbor started. Make sure everyone around you in your neighborhood is with you and on the same page. His story was actually on fear thy neighbor, and now it sounds like he has more people on his property to make life miserable for you. Hopefully the County or State can help you, just make sure the rest of the neighborhood is with you. If that does work out go back to my above post…
This I agree with. We don't know the full deal, so it is hard - no, impossible for us to advise what is the best thing for you. But there are some things to consider. These are real crazy times and people are just starting to get pushed to their limits. When they cross over a certain line, reason goes out the window and emotional rage takes over. Just be sure that it is not you who is operating in emotional rage.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Worked a homicide once over tree trimming
Trees were obviously on the suspect’s property
Junk trees. Mimosa and wild mulberry
Yard was a junk pile. Unkempt and over grown
Victim was a neat freak. Leaf blowing into her yard would get scooped up
These junk trees overlaped the property
She starting cutting the tree limbs overhanging her fence line
Dude shot her in face with a double barrel 12 gage

Worked another one over a six pack of beer. Coors v Budweiser.
Senseless
 
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LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Years ago I had an asshole neighbor. I had some things I wanted to get done. He was hyper about his trees being cut or encroaching on his land when I was cutting trees in my yard. He has many properties and hundreds of acres. I wanted to get all legal and write a strong letter about the trees he has leaning over my property and garage that risked severe damage.

I waited and cooled off. That asshole neighbor is now my friend. I give him free eggs and he let's me cut fallen dead trees for firewood.

Another asshole neighbor, who still is likely an asshole, but not my worry, had a step-son who was a teenage menace, sex offender and hung out with other rotten teens. They were smashing my mailbox. I approached the "father" and warned him that his kid was hanging out with some bad kids and that what goes around comes around. He said: "Are you threatening me?" My reply: "Absolutely not! I am just telling you that if those boys come smashing my mailbox, someday they are likely to smash yours, or worse." He got the message. His household was a freeking disaster. Big BLM supporter, human slouch and liberal dope. Not long after that, his kid commit suicide. Since then, the guy is not as visible and never again a problem with my mailbox.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Neighbor puts dog out on a staked out leash for an hour or so a couple of times a day starting about now in the Spring.

Leash is just long enough that the dog can come a few feet over into our yard…where he tends to then do his business. And neighbor does not even attempt to clean it up.

We’re the new “old folks” in the neighborhood compared to everyone else so not wanting to go all Clint Eastwood, “Get off my lawn” and get into an immediate new neighbor confrontation with them over this, I did the following.

This is a very nice subdivision not exactly rural. Most of us have underground sprinkler systems. Mine is “scheduled” and generally “automatic” but of course, I also have remote control capability through both my iPhone Rainbird app and voice control thru Alexa.

So…

I programmed a routine on Alexa I called “Poop Alert”. When I notice the dog out there, (it tends to bark a lot as well) I simply say, “Alexa, Poop Alert” and that zone of my sprinkler system nearest the dog cranks on for 5 minutes as well as the zone for the front flower bed so it is not so obvious what is happening. “The sprinklers are just doing their thing.” The now wet dog retreats back to its yard AND stops barking.

After a few days of this exercise (last year), the dog learns and rarely ventures back into our yard to poop but when he does he gets the sprinkler treatment again as a reminder.

We’ll soon see if he remembers this drill from last year as I suspect they will start the “stake-out on the leash” routine any day now.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Neighbor puts dog out on a staked out leash for an hour or so a couple of times a day starting about now in the Spring.

Leash is just long enough that the dog can come a few feet over into our yard…where he tends to then do his business. And neighbor does not even attempt to clean it up.

We’re the new “old folks” in the neighborhood compared to everyone else so not wanting to go all Clint Eastwood, “Get off my lawn” and get into an immediate new neighbor confrontation with them over this, I did the following.

This is a very nice subdivision not exactly rural. Most of us have underground sprinkler systems. Mine is “scheduled” and generally “automatic” but of course, I also have remote control capability through both my iPhone Rainbird app and voice control thru Alexa.

So…

I programmed a routine on Alexa I called “Poop Alert”. When I notice the dog out there, (it tends to bark a lot as well) I simply say, “Alexa, Poop Alert” and that zone of my sprinkler system nearest the dog cranks on for 5 minutes as well as the zone for the front flower bed so it is not so obvious what is happening. “The sprinklers are just doing their thing.” The now wet dog retreats back to its yard AND stops barking.

After a few days of this exercise (last year), the dog learns and rarely ventures back into our yard to poop but when he does he gets the sprinkler treatment again as a reminder.

We’ll soon see if he remembers this drill from last year as I suspect they will start the “stake-out on the leash” routine any day now.
This is devious
Ingenious
Full of irony
Watering in the fresh fertilizer
I
Like
It
 
He can see me as I can see him thru the wood fencing, its not possible. BUT I can take pics of the 2 huge motor homes out back. People can store motor homes on their property here, but it's not allowed to have people living in them. I'm not situated in a perfect spot to see certain things. I think I have God at my back, though. HE will let me find a way.
document EVERY THING and take it to the local news
Always wave and say "hi"
IF he asks you anything, say you saw some sorta Barney Fife guy onnce and you are not outside watching much . . . should I look out for some thing . . ?
 
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Bones

Living On A Prayer
If not you, who?

If not now. When?

Go for it. Of course I pray for your safety, and of course your health, too. But be prepared for retaliation.

Always remember, Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Walrus Whisperer. Apply more pressure as necessary.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I’ll definitely pray for your safety, WW, and also for wisdom.

Be sure you have considered and planned for all the “what ifs.”
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Prayers from this corner, as well. I don't know the circumstances -- whether it's better to fight them or move -- but bear in mind that in 2023, there are a lot of people with zero to lose.

For that reason, I'd probably look into moving, but that's me . . .
Pretty sure WW is one of those with nothing to lose. :(
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Bad advice from a bad man who tries to act nice- until it's time to act nasty.

Either do nothing or do something definitive. No pussyfooting around. Do your homework, find out how much horsepower the guy has locally first. If he is an untouchable for you, leave him be or get him touched by someone far enough away that it won't bounce back on you.

You were warned - bad advice.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Neighbor wars are some of the most miserable tar-babies people can entangle themselves with. I'd advise not to escalate the situation unless you are willing to risk finding your dog's head in your mailbox, tires slashed, gas tank sugared, or your house torched some fine morning.

And if you want chickens, get some chickens.

And since this guy is tied in with local LEO's the fire department will probably be told to stand down, and your doors will be screwed shut from the outside. I've seen this happen in a small town not far from where my parents lived. This stuff can get ugly and real fast.
 
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