CRISIS Post Crisis.....BOYCOTT anything Chinese!!

[ShadowMan]

There needs to be a payback for this current crisis. I have no doubt that this was a weaponize disease that got loose, whether by accident or on purpose. Either way, China should suffer and suffer hard. It's time for people to speak with their pocket book and BOYCOTT anything....and I MEAN ANYTHING CHINESE!!

The Chinese government has proven time and time and time again that they can't be trusted. They go out of their way to spy and steal anything they can get their hands on. We need to pull all our factories out of that country. Ban importation of anything manufactured there and bite the bullet if necessary to get our manufacturing back into this country. Screw the damn communists!! Cut them off from the world!! Send all their students back. Cancel all visas. Ban the lot of them. Let them stew in their own juices. They need to be the leper of the planet for this crap.

Something to think about: Who ever controls the "things" you need or want.....CONTROLS YOU!!

 

[summerthyme]

YES!

Summerthyme

 

[naturallysweet]

China is dead to us! We will not forget or forgive.

 

[NoMoreLibs]

Great, ANOTHER unrealistic boycott thread. Maybe somewhere in the very far future but unlikely.

Once the hype is gone over this and everyone goes back to normal life (and most will) Chinese crap will continue to be made because corp's like profit's and cheap cost of mfg'ing is helpful.

Even if it's made in Taiwan or Vietnam or someother place PERIOD, it's not made in the US and that's ultimately what we want. But it's not going to happen. From what I'm reading, get used to everything being made in Mehico.

You may not like them but where else is making your socks for under $10 right now? Yeah.

 

[JasmineAndLace]

I completely agree with eliminating the use of Chinese made products but don't really think that is a viable solution. As was stated before, too many manufacturers like the cheap labor and manufacturing costs of using plants in China--have to protect their bottom line you know.

 

[Pinecone]

We've been doing this since 2001 when a Chinese fighter collided with a USN EP-3 and kept the crew for over a week before releasing them.

We've had to purchase a few things made in China, (shoes, electronics) but we have been very careful to boycott any product we can get from someplace else. I can't tell you how many items we have not purchased after reading labels. It's amazing what we didn't need after all.

It may not have made a dent in the trade with China, but this Navy wife does not forget, nor forgive things like that.

This boycott needs to be done, to tell China we will no longer support their economy/government and to tell our businesses we won't be buying so stop ordering junk. Give American products and companies a chance!

 

[LawPoet]

Bill Whittle makes a powerful case for "only buy Chinese where NO OTHER OPTIONS exist":

1. China brought this contagion on the world.
2. It then concealed its guilt for [months?] weeks.
3. It has never provided critical information which could have cut short the contagion.
4. AS AN ACT OF EXTREME PERFIDY IT THEN ACCUSED OUR MILITARY AS THE "BAD ACTOR" WHO ALLEGEDLY BROUGHT THE VIRUS TO CHINA--unforgiveable.

SO, can we avoid China for EVERYTHING? NO, but we will buy elsewhere every time we can.

This is my personal pledge and promise so help me God.

 

[dozer]

Absolutely.

 

[questionable1]

I completely agree with eliminating the use of Chinese made products but don't really think that is a viable solution. As was stated before, too many manufacturers like the cheap labor and manufacturing costs of using plants in China--have to protect their bottom line you know.

We got new "product of china" headsets handed out at our office a while back. I asked a chinese coworker to translate the chinese writing on the box. It said "Made in Mexico"

 

[Countrymouse]

We don't NEED to boycott it.

They aren't MAKING anything to SEND here anymore.

 

[Milkweed Host]

It would be great to pick up something in the store that doesn't have China on it. It will be tough to put that bear back in the cage. I've noticed more and more the country of manufacture states, Made with domestic and foreign parts. It doesn't address what % was made where.

I have a real wood table with four chairs that was made in Vietnam. We also have clothing made in Vietnam. The quality of the real wood table, chairs and clothing is by far superior to that which is made here, except the Amish furniture that comes out of OH and PA. We have lots of Amish pieces and consider them to be heirloom pieces.

I do think now would be the perfect time to bring some of this manufacturing back home.

The only way I can vote on that issue is with my wallet.

 

[Jonas Parker]

Dear President Xi:

To err is human.
To forgive is not our policy.
We will ALWAYS remember!
It must suck to be you.

(s/s) The People of the World

 

[The Snack Artist]

Hold on now. Let's not be hasty! Where the hell am I going to get my bags of plastic dinosaurs?!! These things don't grow on trees you know!

 

[ktrapper]

I absolutely exhaust all efforts to not buy Chinese made crap especially now. I search high and low for any alternatives. Sometimes it’s in avoidable. I detest anything made in China now more than I ever have. I realize I don’t make a dent in the scheme of things but I feel better about my decision.

 

[Josie]

We don't NEED to boycott it.

They aren't MAKING anything to SEND here anymore.

There will be stuff on the shelves for a while. After that, there will be no stuff, period. At that point either another third world country will step in and deliver cheap stuff or it will be brought home and made here. That's my prediction and as a disclaimer...I have no psychic ability other than feminine intuition and the ability to tell if my kids are lying or hiding something.

 

[Tripod]

I would like to boycott china but that's a tall order and very hard to do. Problem is we don't manufacture much here anymore.
Mike

 

[20Gauge]

China is dead to us! We will not forget or forgive.

Somebody is IRISH...... we never bought if we could avoid it...

 

[Publius]

Many of the corporations that do business in china have dismantled all the manufacturing plants here in the U.S. and it will take some time to rebuild. We also have the E.P.A. to thank for much of this and this government agency has been used to attack us in more ways than you know.

 

[zeker]

a few yrs ago I bot some elderberry cuttings from a lady in montreal

by the tone of our emails, she is an elderly Chinese lady

this week she started emailing me again after a log hiatus

we chatted about plants and the virus

she tells me she is getting flak cuz she is chinese

wtf

I have no idea how long she has been in Canada but she HATES the Chinese gov

I told her any flak should be at the chicom gov NOT the people

she went on about forced organ harvest and religious persecution

if the folks who ragg on her had a second to listen to her

they would see

SHE is not the problem

 

[Old Greek]

I will try to do 100%!!

 

[rbt]

Fishing equipment most high end fly rods most waders made in China.

 

[Walnut]

Definitely will try to

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

I don't think we need to boycott them; we need to SCAR them: Supplier Corrective Action Request. The details of the request would require them to take whatever means necessary to get control of their filthy rural virus generators, and then show the proof. Thereafter, there would be a 2% tariff increase on all their exports for every violation. They have the means and the iron fist capability to do it ( think Tienanmen Square ). They just need a bit of motivation.

Picking on China? Not really when you consider nearly all of the new flu strains originate in their country. They need to clean up their act, or it's only a matter of time before they're responsible for decimating the world population. Frankly, the same should apply to any nation that spawns new yearly virus strains thru poor hygiene or "cultural" practices.

 

[twobarkingdogs]

We need to pull all our factories out of that country.

We can not pull our factories out of china. Do you think the chinese government is going to let a company remove all of the equipment from a factory and ship it somewhere else. The widgets made in that factory are going to continue to be made and sold on the international market.

The only thing america can do is set up tariffs to make chinese goods uncompetitive. But even that has problems because if other 1'st world countries like europe add tariffs against chinese goods also we might run into an issue like in the run up to ww2 where we did our best to shut japan off from the oil market. China might feel and act the same as the japs did back then

tbd

 

[ShadowMan]

American consumers do have the POWER to cripple China and force manufacturing back into this country....it's the power of the all mighty dollar and consumer choice. When people began to demand recycling guess what.....manufacturers started to recycle. When we said we wanted dolphin safe tuna....we got dolphin safe tuna. An avalanche starts off with the movement of one snowflake and that ultimately can bring down the entire side of a mountain. Manufacturers listen when their pocket books start to bleed.

As for the EPA, it's simple. We demand that manufacturers overseas meet the same standards of environmental safety and employee pay as here. If not, tariff the snot to make things equal. That's what tariffs are for. If a company's headquarters and manufacturing is located outside of the USA....tax them accordingly. Make it in their best self interest to physically be in American or they are not an American company and tax and tariff them accordingly. If a company registers it's ships in a foreign country....it's a foreign entity and will be treated as such. MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS!!

Make is to their benefit to make it in America.

 

[To-late]

Well I love all the enthusiasm in this thread.
But who can truely afford buying only American products? If you cut wages, or leave them the same as they are the cost are prohibitive to buying power.
I agree that this country should be self sufficient.
But in truth it never really has been.
Take something simple like a simple chocolate bar. One of the Ingredients so far as I know has to come from South America.
So fighting to get back industry like this country used to have is a probably an un-doable task.
We have already made the turn down the path of no return.

 

[Faroe]

We can not pull our factories out of china. Do you think the chinese government is going to let a company remove all of the equipment from a factory and ship it somewhere else. The widgets made in that factory are going to continue to be made and sold on the international market.

The only thing america can do is set up tariffs to make chinese goods uncompetitive. But even that has problems because if other 1'st world countries like europe add tariffs against chinese goods also we might run into an issue like in the run up to ww2 where we did our best to shut japan off from the oil market. China might feel and act the same as the japs did back then

tbd

If somebody nuked them....well, no complaints from me.
Would solve a lot of the above.

 

[Satanta]

70's and 80's it was Taiwan and Japan that made a lot of our stuff. I think the best we can hope for is Medical Equipment, Foods and some other things, possibly Tools but we are still going to have to buy 'Stuff' from other sources. It may be India, which has similar numbers of people and low-labor laws will take over some manufacturing and other countries might start rebuilding their own manufacturing giving us more options-one thing, more than myself and some here suspect China did this intentionally. If it is proven or other countries around the world figure it out China is in for a Shitshow and likely no one is going to buy from them destroying their economy.

 

[FREEBIRD]

I strongly distinguish between the PRC and Taiwan, for starters. And Chinese minorities, especially Christians, who suffer greatly at the hands of their communist government.

 

[fish hook]

I tried that,before the virus.Occasionally i still had to buy things.On most of it there was no other available source.First we must bring industry back to this country.

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

I don't want to ruin China's economy. It would have too much negative impact across the globe. A good Chinese economy with fair trade laws, without state-sanctioned market dumping and getting control of their rural viral filth is better for everyone. I honestly believe our leadership ( well, Trump anyway ) could diplomatically "convince" them to initiate effective clean-up programs. Any nation that can eradicate flies and sparrows by ordering its population a kill quota, can also clean up its virus gen problem.

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

First we must bring industry back to this country.

And who are we going to find to work factories in this country for $2.60 / hr? That's a higher end salary for a factory worker in a Chinese city. Rural is significantly less. Once you get rid of foreign slave labor, you'll no longer have low priced import goods.

 

[LawPoet]

Skeptic said: "Once you get rid of foreign slave labor, you'll no longer have low priced import goods." My reply--that's a good thing, let's do just that!

What this "unpleasantness" is teaching the common man is something the insightful and prescient knew long ago--"economics" is a form of war. To "win that war", I will pay more to get products made outside of China. They may be made in S. Korea, or Japan, or India, or in the US. My personal strategy includes these themes:

* Buy quality, buy once. Longer lasting, better made, and more feature rich goods are worth more. How often have I been disappointed in "cheap stuff" from...China Mart or "Big River" or Ebay ["direct from the factory to you!"] How many times have I read "Big River" reviewers lament their disappointment at cheap junk with the conclusion: "Not worth bothering to return, I'll just throw it away." [And, yes, I've thrown away far too much like that myself. It was wrong. I'll do better.]

* Reduce, if not eliminate "impulse buying"--I rarely need the "latest gadget or novelty" that captures my attention.

* Search for sales of quality US (or just non-Chinese) goods.

* Pay a fair price for "Made in USA"--and if that means SAVING UP before I buy, so be it. Otherwise, I'm giving "aid and comfort" to our nation's enemy, China, and that's one definition of "treason".

 

[fish hook]

And who are we going to find to work factories in this country for $2.60 / hr? That's a higher end salary for a factory worker in a Chinese city. Rural is significantly less. Once you get rid of foreign slave labor, you'll no longer have low priced import goods.

Didn't say i was looking for bargain,just would love to have an option.

 

[et2]

Change our income tax laws and every other tax burden that enslaves Americans and ridiculous business regulations. You’d be surprised what you (we) could afford. Our own government is what drives business to China. They get more & more of our money and we have to settle for less and less and .... cheap Chinese crap.

 

[Seeker22]

Great, ANOTHER unrealistic boycott thread. Maybe somewhere in the very far future but unlikely.

Once the hype is gone over this and everyone goes back to normal life (and most will) Chinese crap will continue to be made because corp's like profit's and cheap cost of mfg'ing is helpful.

Even if it's made in Taiwan or Vietnam or someother place PERIOD, it's not made in the US and that's ultimately what we want. But it's not going to happen. From what I'm reading, get used to everything being made in Mehico.

You may not like them but where else is making your socks for under $10 right now? Yeah.

Just like that old saw (true) We should've picked our own damn cotton-
I learned how to Knit, so I make my own socks. Youtube vids taught me. I learned to throw and then learned Continental because it was more like the Crochet that I was used to. And faster.

I know- that's probably more labor intensive than most people want, but wool socks that actually fit and stay up for much less than $10 a pop is a definite plus to me. And they are pretty. I get to pick the yarn and the pattern. The sense of accomplishment is cool, too.

 

[ShadowMan]

I've actually been looking for a home sock making machine for some time. They are not cheap and good ones are hard to find. I've been considering picking one up from Down Under where there are some folks building modern copies of some good machines. Last time I looked, several months back, very pricey.

LINK: Old Tyme Stockings - Sock knitting machines

 

[Pinecone]

First, we don't need so much "stuff."

Second, we need to have manufacturing spread out across a number of countries/regions so that no one has a monopoly and so that if there is a crisis of one type or another, the entire world isn't in a crisis.

 

[BluBloc]

I love this idea. Bring back our jobs!

 

[Seeker22]

I've actually been looking for a home sock making machine for some time. They are not cheap and good ones are hard to find. I've been considering picking one up from Down Under where there are some folks building modern copies of some good machines. Last time I looked, several months back, very pricey.

LINK: Old Tyme Stockings - Sock knitting machines

Sweet! I do it by hand because I like to, but if I had to make fifty pair a year, this baby would help.