POL Polls Show That The American People Are Extremely Angry... And They Are About To Get Even Angrier

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Incredibly, even though Biden has decided to impose vaccine mandates on millions upon millions of American citizens, even the White House Press Secretary is admitting that there will be no such requirement for the illegal immigrants that are being let into this country.

Members of Congress and their staffs are exempt from Biden’s new requirements as well.

But the rest of us are apparently fair game. Today, my wife walked into a store where the employees were openly talking about how they might soon lose their jobs because of these new mandates. Biden is dragging us into full-blown tyranny, and lots of American citizens are going to lose good jobs because of this.
And the last time this happened was for Obamacare and look how that turned out for We The People.
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
Imagine that Biden's poll numbers in 2022 are in the 20's but the Democrats win nearly every race?

The public will finally realize the game is rigged.
People already know this, even those that don’t want to know it. We’ve all known “the system is rigged” for a long time, decades at a minimum.

I don’t want to be a “abandon hope all ye who enter here” type. I think that is every bit as counter productive as the rose colored glasses people tend to wear. On the other hand I do believe we all eventually stand alone because people by and large are too chicken shit to stick together.

And everyone wants to be the boss and have a say in how things are going to go down, but no one wants to be as responsible as the boss must be because they are on tap for the mistakes of everyone they are bossing. You can’t be a boss without also being a servant.

Most people seem to enjoy complaining but you really can’t seem to get the work out of them necessary to repair the problem. And then continue the work necessary to prevent the need for further repairs down the road.
 

Blacknarwhal

President-Elect
People already know this, even those that don’t want to know it. We’ve all known “the system is rigged” for a long time, decades at a minimum.

I don’t want to be a “abandon hope all ye who enter here” type. I think that is every bit as counter productive as the rose colored glasses people tend to wear. On the other hand I do believe we all eventually stand alone because people by and large are too chicken shit to stick together.

And everyone wants to be the boss and have a say in how things are going to go down, but no one wants to be as responsible as the boss must be because they are on tap for the mistakes of everyone they are bossing. You can’t be a boss without also being a servant.

Most people seem to enjoy complaining but you really can’t seem to get the work out of them necessary to repair the problem. And then continue the work necessary to prevent the need for further repairs down the road.
It's also important to remember that the thing we're looking to "repair" has a finite shelf life anyway. Should we even be trying to fix the system at this point when it's entirely possible that Jesus Christ is coming to wipe the board on a big white horse anyway? It's a question people have been asking since about 20 minutes after Jesus died, but it's valid.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Writing letters and leaving voicemails - even protests in the streets (mostly peaceful or otherwise) - simply do NOT bother or register on people who DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. /reality

The only reason Jan 6 is even a thing, and people are imprisoned - still - most of them for simple trespassing in "the people's house" - is because it suited the political agenda of the "constantly oppressed, victimized" political empty suits and their handlers. More division, more fear-mongered among the naive, more projected accusations of guilt that actually belongs to them.

<spit>
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
People already know this, even those that don’t want to know it. We’ve all known “the system is rigged” for a long time, decades at a minimum.

I don’t want to be a “abandon hope all ye who enter here” type. I think that is every bit as counter productive as the rose colored glasses people tend to wear. On the other hand I do believe we all eventually stand alone because people by and large are too chicken shit to stick together.

And everyone wants to be the boss and have a say in how things are going to go down, but no one wants to be as responsible as the boss must be because they are on tap for the mistakes of everyone they are bossing. You can’t be a boss without also being a servant.

Most people seem to enjoy complaining but you really can’t seem to get the work out of them necessary to repair the problem. And then continue the work necessary to prevent the need for further repairs down the road.
Well we will just have to see how this all works out.

Perhaps the majority is useless as you seem to be suggesting. Or that non-violent attempts to correct the situation are doomed to failure.

Conflict has a way of forming comrades in arms

It's too early to give up. An individual is doomed against the power of .fedgov.

Remember either we hang alone or we hang together?
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Finally, some good news!

Fair use cited so on and so forth.


Polls Show That The American People Are Extremely Angry... And They Are About To Get Even Angrier

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

This wasn’t supposed to happen. We were promised that once Joe Biden was in the White House that the tremendous anger that was building up in our country would start to subside, but that obviously is not happening.

In fact, as you will see below, Americans have been getting even angrier. Needless to say, the stunt that Joe Biden pulled last week is certainly not helping matters. When he visited Boise on Monday, enormous crowds of extremely angry protesters were waiting for him. And everywhere I go on social media this week, I am seeing huge explosions of anger.


What in the world is our country going to look like if all of this anger continues to grow?



Normally, it is either one side of the political spectrum or the other that is angry at any given time.

But here in September 2021, both sides of the political spectrum are very angry. Just check out these stunning numbers from a brand new CNN poll


Those numbers are crazy. Just a few months ago, there was so much optimism, but now the mood of the nation has completely shifted.

Surprisingly, that same CNN poll asked a question about illegal immigration, and it found that even most Democrats are concerned about “the movement of undocumented immigrants”


Ever since Joe Biden entered the White House, giant throngs of people have been surging to our southern border, and this has created an unprecedented immigration crisis.

Incredibly, even though Biden has decided to impose vaccine mandates on millions upon millions of American citizens, even the White House Press Secretary is admitting that there will be no such requirement for the illegal immigrants that are being let into this country.

Members of Congress and their staffs are exempt from Biden’s new requirements as well.

But the rest of us are apparently fair game. Today, my wife walked into a store where the employees were openly talking about how they might soon lose their jobs because of these new mandates. Biden is dragging us into full-blown tyranny, and lots of American citizens are going to lose good jobs because of this.

Another new poll asked Americans if they think that Biden’s tyrannical decrees are constitutional or not, and the results were absolutely overwhelming


If they get away with this round of mandates, they will undoubtedly try to impose even more.


In fact, Dr. Fauci is openly telling us that he is in favor of mandating vaccines for air travel.

Fauci does not care about you. The next time that you hear the corporate media heaping praise on him, just remember what he and his organization did to a bunch of beagles.

He sees you the same way, and he is going to keep pushing Biden to tighten the screws.

Already, we are seeing officials go door to door in some cities. In Washington D.C., there are times when workers will “go back to a house four or five, six times” until someone finally answers the door…


That should chill you to the core.

And what came next in that same article is also extremely chilling


The good news is that some red state governors are starting to fight back.

For example, Ron DeSantis just announced huge fines for any government entity in his state that attempts to mandate vaccines


Hopefully more red state governors will step up to the plate, because our politicians in Washington are completely and utterly out of control.

Not satisfied with angering millions of Americans with these new vaccine mandates, Democrats have also decided that now is the time to dramatically raise taxes


How would you feel if 61.2 percent of your income went to paying taxes?

Would that make you angry?

Of course it would.

But our politicians in Washington have to find some way to pay for their insane spending sprees. The federal government ran a 3 trillion dollar budget deficit last fiscal year, and with one month to go they are on track to do it again this fiscal year.

Everywhere you turn, there is more bad news. And everywhere you turn, things are starting to spiral out of control. So many of the things that I have been warning about are happening right in front of our eyes, and the months ahead are looking very bleak.

If Americans are this angry while things are still relatively stable, what is the mood of this country going to look like once things really start to fall apart?

As a nation, we are not emotionally equipped to handle any sort of a major societal collapse, but that is where the road that we are on inevitably leads.

These are such troubled times, and I have a feeling that really big surprises are just around the corner.
Almost as if it was planned (anger on both sides)...
 

Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
If all the people that should have been writing to their congress critter had actually done it then their offices would not have been able to hold it all. The percentage of those letter writers to the rest of the citizenry is minuscule. Same for callers, protest attenders, etc. The percentage is just minuscule compared to everyone else. Because with calls and letters they didn’t have to get their hands dirty and adjust their schedule to actually show up at the office.

And note that the violence of the BLM hasn’t worked in their favor either. It may have looked like it initially but it hasn’t done much in the long run. The violent locations are just more violent for those that live there. A few more black people in commercials? What the heck good does that do? They are burying more and more people of color due to violence, not less. Worse, they are mostly doing it to themselves for no good reason.

The kind of violence that is going to be necessary to change the trajectory of this country is astronomically beyond most people’s ability to understand … or participate in.

You know those movies “The Purge”? Yes I know it is fiction but go with me here. People had one night, one night a year, to get it all out of their systems and there wasn’t even any legal consequences for doing so. Yet the vast majority of people fortified their homes and locked down rather than participating. They were too scared. Too lots of things. And that’s with no lasting legal consequences to deal with. Ha! The vast majority of the people in this country have the same damn mindset … let someone else stick their necks out, let someone else take the risk, I’ll go along to get along and will not have to deal with consequences. Or worse are the ones that just run their mouths on the internet and do little to nothing else.

Sure, people are angry. Their easy way of life is getting impacted longer than they bargained for … but they still voted for the idiot and the whore and are will to live with their buyer’s remorse because anything else is just too scary and takes too much sacrifice. People are by and large lazy. Weak and lazy. Sorry, I just don’t have much confidence in the human race in general and certain members of it in particular. I deal with too many people every day not to have had the rose colored glasses slapped off of my face years ago.
Many good and valid points. IMO, we’ve seen some good discussion on this thread, without rancor or dissing.

As you (KIF) know, many people are busy working, being productive, actually doing things that keep the wheels on this once nation. As such, those folks have limits to what they can do to voice or display their displeasure, if they want to. Many are simply doing what they can to prepare for the crash landing that’s coming, sooner or later.

Out opposition is often vested in their lifestyle of protest and demonstrations, getting paid one way or another to do this. I think the divisions on the country that many have been commenting on for decades are getting deeper, more pronounced and if you will,visceral. Those differences have (IMO) resulted in conflict between the various segments that align against each other. They just haven’t resulted in significant violence and mayhem…. Yet.

Jeff B.
 

Seeker22

Veteran Member
The Revolutionary War itself only had about six percent of the population fighting. Do you believe that over 95 percent of the country is "weak"?
Yes, I certainly do.

If by this time next year, we are still talking about it, I will rest my case.
By the way, it was TIME decades ago. Money ain't everything. If your principles aren't worth living every moment of the day you need to get better principles.
 

20Gauge

Has No Life - Lives on TB
People already know this, even those that don’t want to know it. We’ve all known “the system is rigged” for a long time, decades at a minimum.

I don’t want to be a “abandon hope all ye who enter here” type. I think that is every bit as counter productive as the rose colored glasses people tend to wear. On the other hand I do believe we all eventually stand alone because people by and large are too chicken shit to stick together.

And everyone wants to be the boss and have a say in how things are going to go down, but no one wants to be as responsible as the boss must be because they are on tap for the mistakes of everyone they are bossing. You can’t be a boss without also being a servant.

Most people seem to enjoy complaining but you really can’t seem to get the work out of them necessary to repair the problem. And then continue the work necessary to prevent the need for further repairs down the road.
Yep they want the money and prestige, but don't want the long hours or the headaches and risk.
 

20Gauge

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Perhaps the majority is useless as you seem to be suggesting. Or that non-violent attempts to correct the situation are doomed to failure.
No, it is just that to this point they have not worked. If we have slave collars around our necks, yeah they have failed. Until then there is hope.
 

vestige

TB Fanatic
I have read this entire thread and Kathy has hit the issue square on, especially in post #33.

I would recommend anyone just tuning in to start at the beginning and read through to the end.
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
Of course this weekend's "Support of the Political Prisoners" rally in Washington, DC will be made to be the classic "false flag."

Most MAGA humans are forewarned. I expect most will stay away on that account.

And I expect even with ZERO attendees of the MAGA/Trump crowd, there will still be seen to be THOUSANDS of errant destructive, illegal, even brazen protesters - and - very likely - someone will get shot, possibly even die.

Those in Washington WANT you to be to blame for their problems. It's called OPTICS.

They have the MEEDIA - they can make it say anything they want.

And they want you dead.

And making you to blame is where that process starts.

"Demonize" your enemy.

Dobbin
This why you don't want to be anywhere near D.C.
Don't fall for their trap.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Cold fury ....


The animating contest of freedom
Posted on September 15, 2021 by Mike 1 Comment
Peace at any price is no kind of bargain.

If the 9/11 terrorists were alive today to look at the changes they wrought in America with that one act, on that one day, how could they be anything but delighted? If the goal was just to kill Americans, they were successful. If the goal was to warp and distort the fabric of American life, they were successful beyond their wildest dreams. They succeeded in that because we decided that safety was more important than anything else.

If our founders had valued safety over freedom we’d still be British. And I suspect an increasing number of academics, intellectual elites, and government bureaucrats wouldn’t see the harm in that—one country, they think, is very much like another. Life in Canada isn’t so different from life here, etc., etc.

And that brings us to the coronavirus. This disease is not, as some thoughtless people have claimed, our generation’s “World War II”: For one thing, you can’t have a war without fighting back. It is rather another 9/11—a successful attack on the American way of life. The attack comes from China this time. But the results are similar:

Joe Biden said on September 9, just two days before the 20th anniversary of September 11, that he would force everyone to get the vaccine, and seek to punish those who do not: “This is not about freedom or personal choice. It’s about protecting yourself and those around you.” That sentence, among the most disgusting ever spoken by an American president, is music to the ears of the Chinese Communist Party. It’s music to the ears of the Taliban. It’s music to the ears of every America-hating bastard everywhere, including those who were born and live here and who are teaching our children in school to hate America.

A few months ago, you were a conspiracy theorist for suggesting that vaccine passports would even be considered. Today, you’re a conspiracy theorist for suggesting there might be something wrong with the idea.

Joe Biden’s America is America in name only, just as he himself is president in name only. You see people driving around alone in their cars wearing masks on their faces—so terrified of getting sick that they have become sickness itself. They wouldn’t have been willing to fight World War II. They’re peace-at-any-pricers: the people who would have been willing to accept a Nazified Europe in exchange for Hitler’s agreement to let Britain continue existing. (There were plenty of those people in Britain at the time; thank God they were not in charge.)

So I’m not going to get the vaccine. I’m not going to wear a mask, anywhere. If someone asks me whether I’ve been vaccinated, I’ll tell him the truth: That it’s none of his business.

If you prefer safety to freedom, that’s your choice: It’s a free country. You can even tell me “screw your freedom,” as a once-popular actor recently said. But I reserve the right to make my own choices too, and I’m for freedom. Freedom at any price. That is the essence of America.

Myself, I’m just happy to finally run across a column that acknowledges the plain fact that, just as American liberty could never have been secured without violence, it likewise cannot be maintained should any generation of the Founders’ posterity foreswear the use of violence in its defense. Calls for “freedom at any price” can only sound flat and flaccid when accompanied by such timorous, historically-illiterate backpedaling. Threats of “war” unsupported by any credible likelihood of follow-through harsher than rhetoric, lawsuits, and “voting” are no real threat at all, just empty bluster and bluff. And, as any poker player can tell you, bluffs will, sooner or later, get called.
 

The Snack Artist

Veteran Member
There is no way we will ever pay off the national debt. There has never been a fiat currency that when printed to infinity, and budget deficit spent, was paid back. It's never happened and won't here either. Why does the .gov even make us pay taxes? The money isn't real. Why don't they just print more?

Money is almost not a fungible asset anymore as we have nearly turned into a place where the dollar is worth less in the afternoon than the morning. Banana republic style. They don't really print it, it just is made from thin air and injected with dots and dashes into bank's deposits or buys T-notes. The Fed intends to inflate the debt away. So far they're getting away with it. Inflation is coming, big time.
 
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mrrk1562

Veteran Member
They want us to be angry .so angry that we go out a do stupid stuff so that can say look at what they are doing .be rational in thoughts and actions........red dawn is not I was thinking ..more along the lines of book Herbert w.mcbride wrote so long ago ..
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
Well we will just have to see how this all works out.

Perhaps the majority is useless as you seem to be suggesting. Or that non-violent attempts to correct the situation are doomed to failure.

Conflict has a way of forming comrades in arms

It's too early to give up. An individual is doomed against the power of .fedgov.

Remember either we hang alone or we hang together?
I haven't given up or I would just roll over and get the vaxx. That said, I really don't count on too many people being on the front line so to speak. It is going to require a different set of strategies and tactics and that isn't something you just blather about on an open forum.
 

Blacknarwhal

President-Elect
They want us to be angry .so angry that we go out a do stupid stuff so that can say look at what they are doing .be rational in thoughts and actions........red dawn is not I was thinking ..more along the lines of book Herbert w.mcbride wrote so long ago ..
Well, if we take the bait, they win.
If we refuse the bait, they also win, because they got to do all the stupid stuff that MADE us angry to begin with.
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
I haven't given up or I would just roll over and get the vaxx. That said, I really don't count on too many people being on the front line so to speak. It is going to require a different set of strategies and tactics and that isn't something you just blather about on an open forum.
What are you suggesting to be done?
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
There is no way we will ever pay off the national debt. There has never been a fiat currency that when printed to infinity, and budget deficit spent, was paid back. It's never happened and won't here either. Why does the .gov even make us pay taxes? The money isn't real. Why don't they just print more?

Money is almost not a fungible asset anymore as we have nearly turned into a place where the dollar is worth less in the afternoon than the morning. Banana republic style. They don't really print it, it just is made from thin air and injected with dots and dashes into bank's deposits or buys T-notes. The Fed intends to inflate the debt away. So far they're getting away with it. But, inflation is coming, big time.
Inflation is coming, I'm not sure it will be hyper inflation but it is going to hurt some people that aren't prepping for it. People need to get out of debt and stay/live that way. Fewer hooks for TPTB to get in you. Live within your means even if that means a lot of sacrifice. Because sacrifice now is going to be cheaper than the sacrifice they ask of you later.
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
Well, if we take the bait, they win.
If we refuse the bait, they also win, because they got to do all the stupid stuff that MADE us angry to begin with.
And this is why we have to stop letting them set the narrative and control the thinking. Success is only a reality when you operate differently than the enemy.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
If all the people that should have been writing to their congress critter had actually done it then their offices would not have been able to hold it all. The percentage of those letter writers to the rest of the citizenry is minuscule. Same for callers, protest attenders, etc. The percentage is just minuscule compared to everyone else. Because with calls and letters they didn’t have to get their hands dirty and adjust their schedule to actually show up at the office.

And note that the violence of the BLM hasn’t worked in their favor either. It may have looked like it initially but it hasn’t done much in the long run. The violent locations are just more violent for those that live there. A few more black people in commercials? What the heck good does that do? They are burying more and more people of color due to violence, not less. Worse, they are mostly doing it to themselves for no good reason.

The kind of violence that is going to be necessary to change the trajectory of this country is astronomically beyond most people’s ability to understand … or participate in.

You know those movies “The Purge”? Yes I know it is fiction but go with me here. People had one night, one night a year, to get it all out of their systems and there wasn’t even any legal consequences for doing so. Yet the vast majority of people fortified their homes and locked down rather than participating. They were too scared. Too lots of things. And that’s with no lasting legal consequences to deal with. Ha! The vast majority of the people in this country have the same damn mindset … let someone else stick their necks out, let someone else take the risk, I’ll go along to get along and will not have to deal with consequences. Or worse are the ones that just run their mouths on the internet and do little to nothing else.

Sure, people are angry. Their easy way of life is getting impacted longer than they bargained for … but they still voted for the idiot and the whore and are will to live with their buyer’s remorse because anything else is just too scary and takes too much sacrifice. People are by and large lazy. Weak and lazy. Sorry, I just don’t have much confidence in the human race in general and certain members of it in particular. I deal with too many people every day not to have had the rose colored glasses slapped off of my face years ago.


You have posted a lot on this thread and all good common sense points.
More people need to write their reps and do so in mass. Some say it's a wast of time, but they forget when we sent them millions of tea bags and other letters of protest like Hillary Clinton's healthcare/power grab and it got their attention fast and got results.
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
You didn't answer the question.

Ad hominem attacks mean you realize you have no case.
And poor reading comprehension and always asking for other peoples' solutions mean you will never get answers you can use.

When you express your opinion I don't automatically assume you are attacking people. Your current conversational habits may well change that however.

Don't throw a hissy fit just because you aren't getting what you want.

Develop strategies and tactics that fit your own personal situation. What I do and why I do them won't work for you. Nor will I blather them online for someone to screw up my situation. Sorry if you can't handle that.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
I am only gonna say it once, so pay attention now...




I am calling dibs on that freezer and all of the ice cream in it.



So....whenever, whoever does whatever...make sure tou get it packed up right and sent to me at. ...


Mountain side cave #32. north by northwest, elevation 3247...somewhere between bum$#@%egypt and...ya all gotta pretty mouth...

That is all.
 

Aunt Pittypat

Contributing Member
The basic problem is the corruption of The Media. The MSM that colludes with Big Tech that colludes with The Dems that colludes - or influenced by or bribed by -- Communists.

The result is that more than half (or more) of the population don't have the real story about anything much. They were told that Bidet was competent. They were told that the Afghanistan catastrophe was an "extremely successful" operation. They were told that the people who showed up at the capitol on January 6th were wild anarchists intent on bringing down the government and therefore deserving of imprisonment. Move on sheeple; nothing to see here.

And although those of us who are paying attention are alarmed and upset at the direction this country is heading, many people are not. For instance, my brother is constantly questioning my sources when I bring up something he doesn't know. He tells me he has the full story because he reads The New York Times and The Washington Post, which according to him are credible sources, while mine are not. There is no fact that I can mention that will penetrate his bubble. Ironically, he's basically a moderate, a little Center Right, in fact.

So that's the problem, folks. People like my brother are easily satisfied by the talking points of The Media. Yes, there are problems but it will work out because The New York Times tells him so. In his world, the only real problem in this country is the presence of Trump Supporters, racists, and domestic terrorists. And that's because that's what he is told.

My hope is that the consequences of just one (or more) of Bidet's catastrophic policies will finally penetrate his bubble. In that case, a question about what he's told will pop into his mind. He would begin to question the status quo. He might wake up. If this happens among the masses, then we can look forward to real change.

The Lord works in mysterious ways.
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
And poor reading comprehension and always asking for other peoples' solutions mean you will never get answers you can use.

When you express your opinion I don't automatically assume you are attacking people. Your current conversational habits may well change that however.

Don't throw a hissy fit just because you aren't getting what you want.

Develop strategies and tactics that fit your own personal situation. What I do and why I do them won't work for you. Nor will I blather them online for someone to screw up my situation. Sorry if you can't handle that.
Again you are evading the question.

You were the one making sweeping assertions about how the people are unable or unwilling to cope with this crisis.
 

Blacknarwhal

President-Elect
I am only gonna say it once, so pay attention now...




I am calling dibs on that freezer and all of the ice cream in it.



So....whenever, whoever does whatever...make sure tou get it packed up right and sent to me at. ...


Mountain side cave #32. north by northwest, elevation 3247...somewhere between bum$#@%egypt and...ya all gotta pretty mouth...

That is all.
I only hope your generator is up to the task.
 

Samuel Adams

Veteran Member
It's also important to remember that the thing we're looking to "repair" has a finite shelf life anyway. Should we even be trying to fix the system at this point when it's entirely possible that Jesus Christ is coming to wipe the board on a big white horse anyway? It's a question people have been asking since about 20 minutes after Jesus died, but it's valid.
Thank God The Revolutionaries of the 1770s were able to snap out of that fog just long enough to do something about their problems with tyranny and oppression.
 
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The Snack Artist

Veteran Member
You have posted a lot on this thread and all good common sense points.
More people need to write their reps and do so in mass. Some say it's a wast of time, but they forget when we sent them millions of tea bags and other letters of protest like Hillary Clinton's healthcare/power grab and it got their attention fast and got results.
I write them every week. It's super easy and I'm actually getting responses from my creeps.
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
Again you are evading the question.

You were the one making sweeping assertions about how the people are unable or unwilling to cope with this crisis.
And again, you are trying to start a fight you will not win because I will not give you one. Get over it already. I don't need your approval and you shouldn't need my answers.
 
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