Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Or go around popping up att manhole covers. Chuck in some gas/diesel and a match and there goes the fiber.
TERRORISM Police and FBI investigate power poles cut with chainsaw in Snohomish County
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Musbrandy, you put your reply inside the quote.
I'd say it's more than probable arson in Oregon.
I'd say it's more than probable arson in Oregon.
Turret Buster
Gruntpa
I've got family from there, this interests me greatly.
modernbeat
Dallas, TX
Sounds like someone has been reading The Monkeywrench Gang.
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
For even more fun, plant 4 or 8 foot Fluorescent tubes vertically under those transmission lines. You can either have one end in your hand, or one end planted 6 inches in the dirt underneath. There are pictures of whole fields of them. It just has to be under the lines. Off to the side won't work.
Loup
MountainBiker
Veteran Member
A test to see how easy it is to do?
MinnesotaSmith
Membership Revoked
And, nothing says only one saw, or a single perp, could be part of an op.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
That's the first thing I thought of.Keep in mind the new NiCd (battery operated) chainsaws are damn near silent. Just FYI.
samus79
Veteran Member
I’ve been worried about this happening for some time, looks like they’re just getting started. I would expect a lot more attacks against ANY infrastructure targets in the near future, especially in areas or locales deemed to be “conservative“.
One of my main worries is them waiting until winter really gets going during a cold snap and taking out the power and not being able to heat your home. I wonder if they have managed to infiltrate any of their goons into any infrastructure jobs where they would gain more knowledge of how to sabotage and better access to sensitive sites.
One of my main worries is them waiting until winter really gets going during a cold snap and taking out the power and not being able to heat your home. I wonder if they have managed to infiltrate any of their goons into any infrastructure jobs where they would gain more knowledge of how to sabotage and better access to sensitive sites.
Krayola
Veteran Member
Is Snohomish County a conservative county? Just asking because it's been said that the fires have been targeting conservative areas.
ETA: Looked at map and seems like this area is near Seattle so probably not a conservative area. Locals please correct me if wrong. I know nothing about that area.
ETA: Looked at map and seems like this area is near Seattle so probably not a conservative area. Locals please correct me if wrong. I know nothing about that area.
Paladin1
"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
Those are probably Class 5 poles, especially if they're dried out. Normally these should be around 9"-10" in diameter at the birthmark (about 5' off the ground) as they take a 12" bolt with two 1/2" spacers, a cable clamp and a couple of nuts for a single cable attachment if it's not a corner at attachment height.
A Class 3 pole, at the birthmark, should be between 13" - 14" in diameter and are the standard ELCO pole in use. If it's a hard corner or one with a lot of equipment on it, it could be anything from an Class 1 all the way up to a Class 00, but those are MASSIVE beasts that are closer to 30" in diameter at the birthmark and usually only seen in the 75' and above rating.
Just for reference, most drop poles to a customer's home/business/whatever are Class 7 poles, are usually only around 6" at the birthmark, and are light enough that a single man can carry, set, and frame it by himself if he's of average build.
Mtsilverback
Veteran Member
I can see the commies applying this tactic in areas where there isn't a fire danger.
Most important thing to note here...
They are now targeting infrastructure.
This a major turning point.
I just got done saying to watch out for attacks on regional power systems. I was speculating during the winter.
Paladin1
"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the MH and what's in it. If there's dead air, you're not getting a burn no matter what you do. OTOH, if it's a gassy hole, you're likely to send that MH lid into orbit and pop a few on either side of the run.
That's assuming they've got the upper body strength and tools to pop one of those lids. They're NOT light and about half of them are locked, especially in urban areas.
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
Great info Paladin1. I love learning new stuff. Thank you.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
I was running a 20" Echo up in a basket.
A lighter electric saw sure was appealing, right about then,
No thank you...nope....no.
Paladin1
"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
Not a problem, I've been doing this kind of work for 21 years now (as of 9/13) and the Plant is something that everyone sees but not many think about, much less know the strengths and weaknesses. Time may come when there won't be enough people like me to put things back right, so every little bit I can pass along helps.
Paladin1
"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
Looks like about 25 or 30 feet up. I've been a lot higher, and was at 40 feet when I fell back in 2003, but it ain't for everyone.
Bones
Living On A Prayer
A .270, 30.06, even a .357mag or .44mag, close range at a string of substations would put a SOL situation in play for many weeks. Would take 5 seconds and be gone.
Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I thought this was current when I posted it. Wonder if there backpedaling trying to hide it. I'll look for another source latter.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
I thought kitty's like to climb !
Bps1691
Veteran Member
Heck, these communist have the Chinese CCP, the Ruskie CCP and George Soros behind them, I'm thinking that they all get any kind of weapon system and appropriate ammo at cost for their useful minions.
Just like they and the USA funneled all kinds of nasties into all those 3rd world countries for decades, my guess is the communists have been moving the "goods" in from south of the border for a long time. It will be interesting to see if this is their "right time".
Safetydude
Senior Member
Yep I can cut darn near a cord of wood based on an 8-10" diameter logs on one battery! I have a Greenworks 40V 16" bar (upgraded mine with an Oregon bar and chain) it does have a bit of a whine due to the nature of the drive but don't need hearing protection. BUT, I wear a sawyer's helmet with the whole face shield chip screen and chainsaw chaps.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Some years back, I was working in an attic, when I saw Misty climbing the ladder. Here, Princess will easily climb a ladder onto the roof, and back down.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
And make no sound and look like a ninja doing it.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
The ladder squeaks a bit, but she is very elegant.
Some cultural appropriation?
Paladin1
"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
I'd love to see the light show, as long as I wasn't near it. I've seen what 19.9kv does, so I can imagine 69kv or higher.
We brought 12.5KV into one of the plants I worked at.
I didn't like that room.
I didn't like that room.
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This goes back to Bill Ayers play book. They started out dropping power lines and moved on to other commie plots. One of their plots was the training and placement of Obama. Another the corruption of the education system. His head is still not on a pike ShadowMan.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
YES! I would suspect Antifa too!!I can see the commies applying this tactic in areas where there isn't a fire danger.
Most important thing to note here...
This a major turning point.