[POL] Kerry Gave his Followers NO Exit Strategy

[expose']

As I read through thread after thread and watch my local news...I am shaking my head at the incredible agony displayed by the liberal democrats in America!

These people were fed such a rabid script by their Party candidates for two straight years - but were never given a exit strategy! I see them interviewed on the news - and they are completely lost! All they knew about the election was to HATE BUSH! They knew what was spoonfed them by people like Michael Moore and George Soros and some entertainers from Hollywood! Beyond that.......they knew nothing but the fear that their party and certain party supporters instilled in them over a Republican win....

They have quietly been chanting a mantra for 2 years...*I hate Bush* - They have become nothing more than workerbees for the liberals.....to the extent that they committed crimes and lied and have attempted fraud! Nothing to them was more important than the cause....Losing was never discussed and never presented as an option.......This is sad.

Our young people in college have perhaps been fed the most. Day after day and speaker after speaker - fear and loathing of a bogus draft and promises of oppression if Bush were to win...

How do we deprogram these people? How do we educate them and relieve their misguided fears?
Bush is not perfect by any means...but he is not the monster they have been led to believe......

Kerry made his concession speech and just walked away laughing all the way back to his cushy job....leaving these rabid, whining, fearful people to cower and sob on their sofa's....

KERRY AND THE LIBERAL DEMS GAVE THEIR FOLLOWERS NO EXIT STRATEGY!

But they took their money and their pride and security and especially their *hope* and ran to the bank....

It's time for you all to grow up - get educated and get a grip on reality.....The sky is not going to fall....

 

[sbelew]

I think it was intentional.

They have to keep the rage. It's all they have.

 

[old bear]

Bush IS the monster that we have been led to believe. He has done more damage to the Constitution of the United States of America than any President since the Civil War. Why should we sudden want to embrace Bush, just because he has 4 more years to try to destroy America? Only time and Bush having gone into history will heal the wounds that HE has created in this country. If you were expecting that we would hug and make up just because Bush won, then you were wrong. The one without the exit stratagy is Bush in Iraq. When the election is over we all can figure that we will have another shot at it in another four years, If this country is still here by then. With Bush's pet war the body bags just keep coming home. That is the difference.

 

[LMonty911]

Old Bear-

I see that you truly believe what you say. but I dont understand it.

Could you please explain why you belive this man "damaged the constitution"? If you are referring to the Patriot Act (I dont like it either) then IIRC, it was an entire house and senate full of Dems and Rebublicans (with very few dissenters) that voted that into being (including Mr. Kerry)-and it was a bipatisan effort to write it. Otherwise, I havent a clue how he could have done damage to the Constitution. I wish you could expain, so I understand. If there really is something Ive missed, I'd like to learn about it.

Just what kind of an exit strategy would you suggest for Iraq? First off, its not ready for exit. Nowhere near. No country that has been invaded in the past century has been ready until its own govt was recreated and in power for a while...many examples of that, from Europe, Japan, to Korea. Can you recall one that was? Other then Nam, and that wasnt ready either and that exit strategy was called giving up, and running with our tails tucked, leaving untold numbers to be slaughtered after we left. So IMO that choice would be out....Both party platforms included teaching and training the Iraqi natives to self govern and police. The only difference I heard, at all, between them was Kerry said he'd do it faster. Fair enough, thats a good point, we'd all like to get out of there ASAP_without destabilizing the gains, that is.

But the Dem platform never exactly explained how they'd accomplish that, so I've never heard an exit strategy from them either. Bottom line-theres no way we're going to be ready to exit from there for many years, and it was pure manipulative politics on the Dem's part to include that in their election strategy. Millions bought it.-to think we should or could. We must stabilize that region in order to secure our own nation. Even Kerry knows that. So except for that being used as a rallying cry for the naive who think such a thing was possible, to gain votes just what kind of exit strategy should he have done or do? That 4 year timeline he initially quoted was nothing but smoke and mirrors-theres no way it can happen, and theres no way he could have made it happen even if he's been elected.


I think the original post makes sense. Thats all there is, among so many, is hate-folks have been wipped into a frenzy of it with no logical reason. If there are REAL reasons, I'd like to hear them.Otherwise, to feed that hate, and not work together to common goals-we ALL stand to lose more.And that, is the thing that makes the least sense to me....

 

[expose']

Only time and Bush having gone into history will heal the wounds that HE has created in this country.

WRONG.

Bush did not create the wounds. Your Democratic party created the wounds and the fear - with the help of the media! You cannot even try to sort it out! You haven't been given instruction on free thought! Just the constant, vague - unverifiable rhetoric - force-fed to you daily...

Your minds are screaming! ACK! Iraq is wrong! The Patriot Act is going to get me! The economy is bad! The rich got tax breaks! Children have no health care! I hate Bush!!!

But.....If you simply took a deep breath and truly looked at the situation ...You would find that Iraq was more important than even the Whitehouse is letting on right now. The Patriot Act has never oppressed Joe American citizen and was not written to do so. The economy is doing much better than anyone could have hoped for after 911. We ALL got tax breaks - which is great since it's our money to begin with... The majority of children with no health care are illegal immigrants who clog our Emergency rooms and get medical care anyway. ..

So there......seems kind of silly to be so upset over a Bush win that you would consider moving to another country......doesn't it?

 

[bw]

"leaving these rabid, whining, fearful people to cower and sob on their sofa's"

You have an overly dramatic view of liberals. Have you ever spoken with one, or do you just get this by fuming with other Republicans? You need to get out more.

What I'm hearing so far is more like: "well, we survived other trash, I guess we'll survive this".

bw

 

[night driver]

BW, while BOTH of us recognize that the plural of annecdote is NOT "data", let me offer this article which sugestws that there may well be some truth to Expose`'s suggestions:


Election leaves liberal New Yorkers in dark mood

By MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN
Associated Press Writer

November 3, 2004, 6:25 PM EST

NEW YORK -- The announcement came over the loudspeakers at the Park Slope Food Co-op shortly before noon: Sen. John Kerry was conceding. People looked at each other stricken over the soy milk and organic vegetables.

Pilates instructor Rachel Priebe ran weeping from the store.

"I'm heartbroken," said Priebe, 30, sobbing gently as she loaded her bicycle on a Brooklyn sidewalk. "The rest of the country must be pretty out of touch with reality."

While Democrats mourned nationwide Wednesday, the mood among liberal New Yorkers was particularly dark and foul as some of the country's most Democratic precincts digested the results of the election. From Park Slope to Harlem, there was despair, dismay and cynicism over President's Bush's re-election.

Upper middle class Brooklynites called red state voters misinformed and self-interested. And outside the Apollo Theater in Harlem, residents cried that the fix was in and Bush had stolen another election.

"I'm devastated," writer Emma Starr said as she left the nation's largest member-owned and -operated food co-op. "I have proposed that we should have two distinct nations. Why should we be forced to live together under the rule of an evil dictator?"

The overwhelming sentiment in West Harlem, Manhattan's most Democratic district, was skepticism about the electoral process, based largely on voting problems many blacks faced in Florida in the last general election.

"I didn't think he would be able to steal it again," said construction worker Charles Collins, 43.

"It's a fix," said transit worker Marselee Mitchell. "This is real messed up."

New York City in some ways was the political reverse image of most of the nation Tuesday.

One-third of voters surveyed in nationwide Associated Press exit polls called themselves conservative, one-fifth liberal.

The opposite was true in New York, where about one-third of voters called themselves liberal, compared with one-fifth who identified themselves as conservative.

Three quarters of the city's voters pulled the lever for Kerry, compared with 48 percent of voters nationwide.

Leonard Lopate, the liberal host of a morning talk show on public radio station WNYC, described left-leaning New Yorkers on Wednesday as stunned, despairing and alienated from the rest of the country.

"In the end it was issues like so-called moral values, gun control, things like that, that seemed to be much more important than the big issues that they felt were at the heart of this," Lopate said in an interview. "We are the symbol of the United States to everybody except the rest of the people in the United States."

Joanne Koeller, a 52-year-old graphic artist, struggled for words Wednesday as she paused during a walk on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and tried to describe her feelings about the election.

"I want to cry I'm so depressed," she said.

Dr. Charles Goodstein, a psychiatrist at NYU Medical Center, described the patients with whom he spoke Wednesday as deeply saddened.

"It's had a real impact on them," he said. "There's a sense of hope that's been given up, the loss of an ideal, a kind of pessimistic view of the world."

He said, however, that what he was seeing was not clinical depression and he expected the somber mood to lift eventually.

end

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/w...ov03,0,2269870.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire

 

[Slydersan]

...He has done more damage to the Constitution of the United States of America than any President since the Civil War.
... With Bush's pet war the body bags just keep coming home. That is the difference...

Hmmm methinks this is yet again another instance of democrats forgetting their history....

Let me remind you - WW-II and a Democrat FDRoosevelt put people in internment camps !!! and THAT wasn't more damaging to the Constitution !! wake up...

oh...and the "pet war with bodybags"....Hello - VIETNAM started by a JFK a democrat and carried on by LBJ also a democrat.

I must be nice to live in world with short term memories...and no recollection of History. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury.

 

[fairbanksb]

The bashing is still going on in the media and it's pretty sick too listen to. I was channel surfing last night to listen to the views of the talking heads. It is pathetic. It won't get better. If anybody thinks that Dem leaders like Harry Reid, taking over for Daschle, and Nancy Pelosi, are going to try to work with Republicans, your crazy. They will fight everything. I see no compromises. The Democratic leaders are moving further to the left while the public is moving to the center or right.

 

[Aleph Null]

What I'm hearing so far is more like: "well, we survived other trash, I guess we'll survive this".

Yep.

People who are this rabidly obssessed with the "righteousness" of either major party are simply

-A0-

 

[Annmarie]

Today' Republican Party isn't the same as it used to be. It is filled with stupid sheeplike Bushbots. Tell them your a religious man and they will follow you anywhere and do anything for you. Studies have shown that the average IQ of Republicans today is much lower than Democrats. You can't debate with someone whose life is dominated by Armageddan and endtimes, and their cruel interpretations of the Bible. You can't deal with people who are greedy and so sure they are right and so fearful that God will get them if they don't toe the line. You can't deal with people who feel abortion is a sin, but it's ok to kill thousands of Iraqi children and excuse it by saying that it is collateral damage. You can't deal with people who preach one thing, but act out differently. Self-righetous hypocrites, you can stuff your phoney "concern" over people that don't see things your way. Thinking people can see right through it.

 

[Usually Curious]

"I'm heartbroken," said Priebe, 30, sobbing gently as she loaded her bicycle on a Brooklyn sidewalk. "The rest of the country must be pretty out of touch with reality."

We're out of touch with reality?!? Tell that to the farmer that provides Priebe's organic vegetables!

Annmarie,
"Studies have shown that the average IQ of Republicans today is much lower than Democrats."
WHERE? I want to see those studies. That is the most pompous, ridiculous, patronizing thing I've hear around here in a long time. Liberals think they are the intellectual elite. Gag. I imagine if you tested the IQ of all the welfare queens and lazy, jobless men hanging around the ghettos they would test much higher than the average Rep.

 

[Annmarie]

Curious - you are correct, my post was out of line, it was knee jerk reaction to the first post on this thread. There are studies that do show the relationship between IQ and party affiliation. Do a google search. That being said there are many Republicans who are very intelligent, Patrick Buchanan comes to mind.

 

[Deena in GA]

originally posted by nightdriver ["I'm devastated," writer Emma Starr said as she left the nation's largest member-owned and -operated food co-op. "I have proposed that we should have two distinct nations. Why should we be forced to live together under the rule of an evil dictator?"]

LOL! I actually said that to my parents this morning - that it was a shame the far northwest and California couldn't be placed together into a country of their own since they are so different from the rest of us "mindless sheeple idiots". {rolling my eyes}

As to the intelligent or lack of........I have a brother and sister-in-law who are rabid Democrats and are supposedly very intelligent. They can use lots of big words, but they have NO common sense or real intelligence when it comes to daily life. They live in a fantasy, university atmosphere.

 

[Green]

I sulked at work all day yesterday.

But I'm better now.

And I know I'll have so many opportunities to say, "Hey, don't look at me, I voted for the other guy."

 

[expose']

I sulked at work all day yesterday.

But I'm better now.

And I know I'll have so many opportunities to say, "Hey, don't look at me, I voted for the other guy."

Now THIS person......is mentally and emotionally healthy!

 

[Night Breeze]

Well Green at least we had a job to go to today and I still haven't got my draft notice and there were no political pollsters calling me today. I guess 11/03/04 didn't destroy the free world after all.

 

[notred]

stupid sheeplike Bushbots. .

This kind of stoooooopid crap used to make me mad. After the last 72 hours of the Loonie Lefties running round like tinfoil wraped chickens in an electrical storm...I have just started howling with laughter. There has been some extremely funny s**t said in the press, on this board. I was all tense before this election, now there is some of the best histerical comedy going on. Its like verbal laughing gas. Or maybe just gas...

 

[nanna]

In a way, I'm glad Bush was re-elected.

Now *he's* got to deal with the s*** he got us into ... the budget deficit, the tarbaby of Iraq, the increased intolerance and secrecy promoted by the style of his administration (Politicallly Correct starts at the top so far as I'm concerned) ...

This new administration won't be able to just blame its problems on the previous one.



nanna

 

[PentelPen]

Of course they will. And don't forget, they still have 9/11 to fall back on. Oh, 9/11!! {SOB!}

 

[Bearded Weirdo]

Actually Nana, I'm glad Bush got reelected for the same reasons. Bush not Kerry will get the credit as the economy contiues to recover, the war on terror's continues its success, we start having more good news come out of Iraq, etc. etc.