CORONA Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer ‘Limited, If Any Protection’

WTSR

WTSR

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Uhhmmm... said:
Well, there is the somewhat obvious fact that natural immunity cannot protect one from the ravages of the initial contraction of the disease.
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Obvious? If everyone's natural immune system didn't work on a specific new virus then everyone that contracted it would die on initial contact, but as we know only about 1% died. Or am I missing something. I would venture to theorize that everyone's immune system is NOT the same and therefore you will always have variables in effectiveness of an individuals immune system.
 
subnet

subnet

Boot
Uhhmmm... said:
Older data applies until it no longer does. Just like today with the Omicron and even the Delta variants.

The performance of the vaccine has changed with each new variant - small changes at first, but, as the number of mutations accelerated, so has the vaccine performance degraded. So far, not too bad. Nothing new here.

Look, no one disagrees that eventaully we will need a new vaccine. Right now, we have what we have and for the most part, with a booster, chances of survival are much improved. That is what the CEO said when the complete quote is considered. The OP is busted.
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Actually its looking like its still holding true with omicron mild symptoms for most
 
corona

corona

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wvstuck said:
Quote from CEO: limited, if any" protection against contracting current variants of the disease.

Thread title: Pfizer CEO: Our Vaccines Offer ‘Limited, If Any Protection’



I don't see the selective editing, the current variants are what are hitting people very hard, the CEO admits the vaccines they offer provide limited, if any protection against what is going around. Then recommends a booster of the same non-effective "vaccine".
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I agree.. He's talking about the current variants. This almost sounds like Facebook Fact checkers... I wonder how much you get paid to be a troll??
 
subnet

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Boot
Double_A said:
This is a screen shot of the hits for first query, took ten seconds...
Some of these you may deem not relevant, eh I just grabbed in a screenshot as much as I figured I could paste.
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Yet, none of those address the populous and the 80+% little to no symptoms claim, started from the beginning.
Take the latest from (where was it shitcago?) that tested their sewage and believe there are far more infected than the numbers say and we come to the realization that ...damn...maybe just maybe 80% was correct all along.
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Over 80% of people with coronavirus didn’t have key symptoms, UK study finds
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"Over 80% of young people may show no symptoms "

I can keep going, but I think my point is made.
 
corona

corona

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Double_A

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subnet said:
Yet, none of those address the populous and the 80+% little to no symptoms claim, started from the beginning.
Take the latest from (where was it shitcago?) that tested their sewage and believe there are far more infected than the numbers say and we come to the realization that ...damn...maybe just maybe 80% was correct all along.
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Over 80% of people with coronavirus didn’t have key symptoms, UK study finds
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"Over 80% of young people may show no symptoms "

I can keep going, but I think my point is made.
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The level of specificity you want, if you have doubts, you need to search Pub Med and National Library of Medicine. I have more of those docs on my computer, I will search.. I have not posted those to TB2K because their focus is much narrower than most here want or need.
 
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Double_A

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Double_A said:
The level of specificity you want, if you have doubts, you need to search Pub Med and National Library of Medicine. I have more of those docs on my computer, I will search.. I have not posted those to TB2K because their focus is much narrower than most here want or need.
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There is lots of info out there. D_A

Waning of immunity by Delta predominance in the general population

Real-world effectiveness of three COVID-19 vaccines
www.news-medical.net

Real-world effectiveness of three COVID-19 vaccines

Researchers from IQVIA Real-World Solutions have investigated how effective these vaccines are against severe disease.
www.news-medical.net www.news-medical.net

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) Vaccines in Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations Among Adults Without Immunocompromising Conditions — United States, March–August 2021
www.cdc.gov

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna...

This report describes COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against hospitalizations for all three vaccines, with Moderna as the most effective against hospitalization.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov


Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time

news.yahoo.com

Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time

A study of 780,000 veterans shows a dramatic decline in effectiveness for all three COVID-19 vaccines in use in the U.S.
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
 
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Double_A

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intowolves said:
40 second mark
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk6HNicFnOQ
and theres other reports of him saying he got the booster as well.

He's all bout these so called vaccines, but he seems to be against mandates, so thats a good thing
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Well that seems clear, yet it is in conflict with other statements he's made.
He indicates he got the "Vaccine" he generally says get "The Shot" but not here, he says Vax.
But has he had the Vax? any of the three? Booster?

It looks like I was wrong. If he has taken one of the approved vaccines AND had a booster, he's no longer fit to be President in my opinion.

What I heard was that he was conflating Vax's with his monoclonal antibodies treatment received.
He was doing this deliberately to confuse the media, which may be the case, but he's also confusing his supporters.
 
subnet

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Boot
Double_A said:
There is lots of info out there. D_A

Waning of immunity by Delta predominance in the general population

Real-world effectiveness of three COVID-19 vaccines
www.news-medical.net

Real-world effectiveness of three COVID-19 vaccines

Researchers from IQVIA Real-World Solutions have investigated how effective these vaccines are against severe disease.
www.news-medical.net www.news-medical.net

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) Vaccines in Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations Among Adults Without Immunocompromising Conditions — United States, March–August 2021
www.cdc.gov

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna...

This report describes COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against hospitalizations for all three vaccines, with Moderna as the most effective against hospitalization.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov


Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time

news.yahoo.com

Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time

A study of 780,000 veterans shows a dramatic decline in effectiveness for all three COVID-19 vaccines in use in the U.S.
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
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Looking at what you posted, I think we are getting our lines crossed here....the "80+% little to no symptoms" is for those that are not jabbed.
 
bassaholic

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In some other countries, it's only jabbed that are dying in hospitals. Lots of them. Like Saudi and Kuwait.

Can't even get care if not jabbed.
 
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Double_A

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subnet said:
Looking at what you posted, I think we are getting our lines crossed here....the "80+% little to no symptoms" is for those that are not jabbed.
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Yea , crossed. What has your searches shown? Have you come up blank? Seems to me lots of general info, but not for what you seem to be looking for. Good luck, I'm done searching.
 
subnet

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Boot
Double_A said:
Yea , crossed. What has your searches shown? Have you come up blank? Seems to me lots of general info, but not for what you seem to be looking for. Good luck, I'm done searching.
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Yup, the quotes I posted were from a quick search. I was shutting down Uhmm or whatever the name is for the false claims he? made.
 
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Mary Contrary

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Cacheman said:
you beat me to it. The side effects can't be denied and are increasing every day.
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My X's young 39 yr old girlfriend got the Moderna shot in the summer. Soon after she ended up in the hospital for 8 days cuz had blood clot in lung and leg. Home. Still very sick. Taking blood thinners. She says she can't breathe and even texting is hard for her to do. I don't know why. We don't talk much. She is not getting the 2nd shot.
 
intowolves

intowolves

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Double_A said:
Well that seems clear, yet it is in conflict with other statements he's made.
He indicates he got the "Vaccine" he generally says get "The Shot" but not here, he says Vax.
But has he had the Vax? any of the three? Booster?

It looks like I was wrong. If he has taken one of the approved vaccines AND had a booster, he's no longer fit to be President in my opinion.

What I heard was that he was conflating Vax's with his monoclonal antibodies treatment received.
He was doing this deliberately to confuse the media, which may be the case, but he's also confusing his supporters.
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It's ok man, we constantly hear different things and it's tough to wade through whats real and whats not at times.
We live in a world were a narrative gets pushed before the truth, so its easy for anyone to get things wrong.
Trump says alot of things, and he's been known to contradict himself on more than a few issues, and he has a habbit of exagerating things to make himself look good. He is a narcicissist, but he does know how to run a bussiness.
I wouldn't mind having pre covid trump in the whitehouse, but the post covid trump isn't doing us any favors.
 
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