USA Pentagon confirms leaked US Navy footage of spherical transmedium UFO that vanished into the ocean is real

[Terriannie]

Well yes, the fact that they are just now STARTING to come clean does raise questions for sure.

However, your Statement is not supported by the answers you gave, that is really just more supposition and conjecture. Is there anything that you can point to in the Bible that directly states that what you say is true ?

Well, yes. Starting with the Book of Genesis. The Creator created us in His image.

He knows how many hairs we have on our heads. (Mind you, that's every single, trillion/trillion/trillion head from the beginning of time.)

We have such a wonderful CREATOR, yet, not a single "peep" from the "aliens" who, as I remind all, know we do communicate even if it's with puny ant-brains compared to their supposed, highly intellectual (or demonic) brains.

 

[Henry Bowman]

Well, yes. Starting with the Book of Genesis. The Creator created us in His image.

He knows how many hairs we have on our heads. (Mind you, that's every single, trillion/trillion/trillion head from the beginning of time.)

We have such a wonderful CREATOR, yet, not a single "peep" from the "aliens."

But that does not speak to what you said at all. That only speaks to your belief in a Creator . Nothing in that backs up what you stated.

My question ( I will ask again ) is this: Is there Anything you can point to in the Bible that states that they do not exist?

If what you say is true, that God Created the universe and created Humans, surely in an expanse as huge as the universe ( nearly endless) there would be mention of nothing being created elsewhere right ?

In the Billions upon billions of stars and planets and solar systems and galaxy's , would it be PROBABLE that there is nothing else out there? Or would it lean more to the Probability that there is other beings ( Perhaps people, who knows?) out there?

So , can you point to ANYTHING that directly states that didn't happen or that the wide expanse of the universe is void of life other than this little planet known as earth?

 

[psychgirl]

He isn't the only one now. Beck, Ingram etc...are giving it mention and some going more in depth.

I agree, something is up for sure. While some it is "Hogwash" as DH says but with the sheer amount of stuff coming to light there is bound to be some truth in it.

Now, the WHY of the whole thing and the Why NOW of it is very ...interesting.

Very.
Interesting!!!

I don’t hear Ingraham anymore but do listen to Glenn Beck when I’m home... I’ll have to pay attention what he says for curiousoty sake

 

[Henry Bowman]

Very.
Interesting!!!

I don’t hear Ingraham anymore but do listen to Glenn Beck when I’m home... I’ll have to pay attention what he says for curiousoty sake

There is a video on this thread of his interview with the guy who was originally supposed to Debunk the alien visitor thing , hired by Petraious (sp) . Yesterday he spoke about it in depth for about 15 mins, very interesting but still more questions of course.

You can look it up on you tube, just search GB and alien show.

 

[Terriannie]

But that does not speak to what you said at all. That only speaks to your belief in a Creator . Nothing in that backs up what you stated.

My question ( I will ask again ) is this: Is there Anything you can point to in the Bible that states that they do not exist?

If what you say is true, that God Created the universe and created Humans, surely in an expanse as huge as the universe ( nearly endless) there would be mention of nothing being created elsewhere right ?

In the Billions upon billions of stars and planets and solar systems and galaxy's , would it be PROBABLE that there is nothing else out there? Or would it lean more to the Probability that there is other beings ( Perhaps people, who knows?) out there?

So , can you point to ANYTHING that directly states that didn't happen or that the wide expanse of the universe is void of life other than this little planet known as earth?

Now I get what you mean. No, the Bible does not say they specifically exist or not exist. Which would actually be another argument against aliens.

In my opinion, when people say we can't be alone in the universe, I say, why not?

Who's to say Our God created the entire universe with ALL of the multiple solar systems dancing around and around, ebbing and flowing in the cosmos just to support one, single, blue planet's dome in order to protect the humans He created in His image? Remember, we're talking about a God who is so immense, loving and big, He counts our hairs. I don't know about you but counting hairs would not be a thing I would think of and do but then I'm not God. He is certainly mysterious and when I pass through my time here on this blue planet and go to my true home, all the questions I have, will be answered.

Until then, I'm staying clear of the aliens and will be more watchful of the Pentagon's next move concerning them.

 

[Henry Bowman]

Now I get what you mean. No, the Bible does not say they specifically exist or not exist. Which would actually be another argument against aliens.

In my opinion, when people say we can't be alone in the universe, I say, why not?

Who's to say Our God created the entire universe with ALL of the multiple solar systems dancing around and around, ebbing and flowing in the cosmos just to support one, single, blue planet's dome in order to protect the humans He created in His image? Remember, we're talking about a God who is so immense, loving and big, He counts our hairs. I don't know about you but counting hairs would not be a thing I would think of and do but then I'm not God. He is certainly mysterious and when I pass through my time here on this blue planet and go to my true home, all the questions I have, will be answered.

Until then, I'm staying clear of the aliens and will be more watchful of the Pentagon's next move concerning them.

So ANY statements that they are "Demons" or "Nephilim" is pure conjecture and not based in and fact or even belief...it is something that for some unknown reason has been left out of any Biblical text.

You are entitled to that opinion and I thank you for giving a well thought out answer.

 

[PghPanther]

*Sigh*

WHY do people keep claiming extra-terrestrials to be “demons?” Any hard, rock-solid, proof? Are you people so wedded to the Dark Ages of superstition, that what you don’t know is “spiritual,” and must be always evil and of a ”religious” nature?

Really?

”God” help us, if and when we encounter E.T.- we’ll probably shoot first, and try to open lines of communication shortly thereafter... Nothing like opening an interstellar war based upon ignorance, arrogance, and stupidity. Shucks, we’ve started earthly wars over lots less...

Ronald Wilson Reagan, my favorite President quoted a Russian in saying, “Trust, but verify...”

If what the DOD is alluding to, but not yet verifying, as ET’s here, and trying to get our attention, we need to listen. Hands on the butts of our revolvers, retention straps off, and weapon’s loose in the holsters, situational awareness on MAXIMUM, we should LISTEN...

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Just don’t forget to ease-off those retention straps or loops... Damned embarrassin’ if you do...

OA

Oh, and don’t get us into an intergalactic ”religious” war... The “regular” wars are tough enough, without the BS that ”legitimizes” all the inhumane aspects of our conduct. If species annihilation is warranted, so be it. I don’t want humanity to become extinct...

OA

Even more primative is the ideas we have about alien life looking or resembling us............

..........think about this.

Right now in our current state we are replacing more and more parts of the human body (carbon based) with synthetic parts.........over time we might end up someday replacing so much that we might question what is human or not.....

...........so even at this current state we are headed out of a carbon based state to a cyborg state.

...................at that point an advanced cyborg state would never stay the size we are now.

Its way too inefficient in the use and waste of energy.......so we'd begin to nano size our existence.

Who knows how far in the future that would be but imagine if we came upon alien existence that is 1,000s maybe millions of years in advance of us.............

Well they'd probably be long past a large carbon based body and well developed into nano size silicon based.................they could be here and we'd never know it.

Assuming aliens are in space crafts acting and looking like humans is a prejudice due to our being stuck in our current technological state.........its the stuff of 50s sci fi movies not what reality is telling us where technology is taking us.

 

[bassgirl]

I would recommend Dr. Michael Heiser‘s book, Unseen Realm. He gives a very well thought out biblical view of the Annunaki, why there are similar stories in the Bible and the Ugaritic (summerian) text.

It is God, and his created divine creations, aka the sons of God. And it is not Israel because they are still 2000 years away from coming into existence.

He talks about the beings who came down on Mt Hermon and the change it created. Angelic beings. They have names.

It is one of two things, either another alien civilization, or it is something created by God that is higher than us. Those beings can be good or bad. Depending on their free will. Just like ours.

as Paul said, “Do you not realize you will judge angels?”

 

[Mark D]

so it was written. you are primed and ready for the biggest show on earth. have you mask ready and line up for the vax too. and be sure the aliens through the world leaders and experts, will tell you that a carbon tax and a world tax is the only way to save the planet.

You lost me completely. What,exactly, are you trying to communicate?

 

[Melodi]

My concern is that this sudden "admission" from the Pentagon is combined with the well-published "disclosure" coming largely from a "former" CIA Agent.

Starting with, as one Company Man told me, "there are no former CIA agents, only unofficial ones" and ending with "why is the Pentagon now doing a 180-degree turn on this" well, color me skeptical about some of this.

This is not to mean I think that UFOs are not real, I've actually seen one so I know that they do in fact exist, but as to what they are exactly I'm not sure and they may very well be more than one thing.

They may also however be "useful" for certain narratives, and if in June when the report to Congress is supposed to come out (all or in part) I will really be suspicious if suddenly UFO's are the "next" scary threat we all have to build our lives around avoiding.

 

[mzkitty]

The Old Testament is loaded full of reference.

Read the following book. If you're going to skim it, then don't waste your time. If you're interested, however, read the whole thing. I think you'll be surprised.

Mauro Biglino The Book That Will Forever Change Our Ideas About The Bible ( 2013) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

OK, I read it. Goes with many other things I've read over the years. A history, if you will, that is quite different but not impossible, especially if you take into account what the meaning really is of words, and not just what we THINK they mean.

Thanks, FS.

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

OK, I read it. Goes with many other things I've read over the years. A history, if you will, that is quite different but not impossible, especially if you take into account what the meaning really is of words, and not just what we THINK they mean.

Thanks, FS.

... or what we were taught that they mean.

 

[FaithfulSkeptic]

Who knows how far in the future that would be but imagine if we came upon alien existence that is 1,000s maybe millions of years in advance of us.............

Well they'd probably be long past a large carbon based body and well developed into nano size silicon based.................they could be here and we'd never know it.

Assuming aliens are in space crafts acting and looking like humans is a prejudice due to our being stuck in our current technological state.........its the stuff of 50s sci fi movies not what reality is telling us where technology is taking us.

Evolving into something different is almost certain. I've always held that biological intelligence it transitory. It's limited, too slow, and too disorganized as individuals. Evolving into a singular super-intelligence is inevitable and I suspect that's what every intelligent species transitions into if they survive. The notion of ETs being millions of years ahead of us and still corporeal is nonsense. WE will be interstellar in another 1000 ( 5000 tops ) years, and I doubt that's all the farther we or any other species would advance. Whatever we/they become in a million years we couldn't even comprehend, much less recognize, and I doubt it will spend any time flitting around the stars observing the ants. Thus, any "visitors" we have are likely less than 50,000 years ahead of us, unless they're incredibly unimaginative and stuck in some sort of evolutional stagnation, or they're constantly suffering setbacks from wars.

ETA: It could be that Fermi's paradox has an explanation: By the time any civilization gets to the stars, their advancement is accelerating so fast that they don't really spend much time doing it, relatively speaking.

 

[marsh]

‘We don’t know exactly what they are’: Obama says UFO sightings appear real

The former president also said the government doesn’t have a stash of alien specimens.

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‘We don’t know exactly what they are’: Obama says UFO sightings appear real

By Lee Brown
May 18, 2021 | 1:03pm | Updated

And I know people are gonna be throwing tomatoes right now
Does the government have a crashed UFO?

Former President Barack Obama has laughed off rumors that the US government has a secret stash of aliens and their spacecraft — while conceding that there really are UFO sightings that the government can’t explain.

“When it comes to aliens, there are some things I just can’t tell you on air,” the 44th commander-in-chief teased James Corden in a video chat on “The Late Late Show” aired early Tuesday.

“Look, the truth is that when I came into office I asked,” Obama told the British comedian with a laugh.

“I was like, ‘All right, is there the lab somewhere where we’re keeping the alien specimens and spaceships?’

“They did a little bit of research …. and the answer was ‘No,'” he deadpanned to laughter.

“But what is true — and I’m actually being serious here — is that there’s footage and records of objects in the skies that we don’t know exactly what they are,” he said of growing reports of unidentified flying objects.

Barack Obama knows the truth about space aliens, government UFO files

Video on website 1:15 min

“We can’t explain how they moved, their trajectory … they did not have an easily explainable pattern,” he said of growing reports of sights, many recorded by the Navy.

“So I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. But I have nothing to report to you today,” he said, without elaborating on his own views on what the mysterious objects likely were.



Former President Barack Obama acknowledged that there are UFO sightings the government can’t explain.

Former President Obama wanted to know if the government had a secret lab keeping alien specimens and spaceships.AFP via Getty Images

Obama then joked that the show’s bandleader, Reggie Watts — who had first asked him about “them aliens” — might “secretly be an alien.”

“When he asks all these questions, he’s deflecting,” he joked, asking, “Do we know what he looks like behind those glasses?”

The former president also said life was “pretty darn good” now he has “less stress, less burden” of not being blamed for “every single story” in the news.

“I get a lot more time with Michelle,” he said of his wife, saying that they also had the “blessing” of spending lockdown with their college-age daughters.

“Michelle thinks I’m a little cuter now, a little sexier,” he said with a smile.

The US Navy captured images of an unidentified flying object off the East Coast of the United States.US Navy

 

[marsh]

Former Navy pilot recalls seeing hundreds of UFOs, calls them security threat

Could UFOs be a danger to the United States’ national security? Former Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves said he believes they are, in an upcoming “60 Minutes” interview.

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Former Navy pilot recalls seeing hundreds of UFOs, calls them security threat

By Jesse O’Neill
May 14, 2021 | 10:30pm | Updated

Former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves said in a new interview that UFOs are a threat to national security.DoD/AFP via Getty Images

A former Navy pilot says he witnessed UFOs flying in restricted airspace off the coast of Virginia nearly every day for two years beginning in 2019.

Former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves tells CBS’s “60 Minutes” that the unidentified vessels — like ones seen in a Pentagon-confirmed US Navy video near San Diego — are a security threat.

The latest firsthand account comes a month ahead of a Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense report on unidentified aerial phenomena, a measure that was including in a COVID-19 relief bill passed in December.

“I am worried, frankly. You know, if these were tactical jets from another country that were hanging out up there, it would be a massive issue,” Graves said, according to a clip of the report, which is set to air on Sunday. “But because it looks slightly different, we’re not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. We’re happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day.” 



A screengrab from part of an unclassified video taken by Navy pilots that has circulated for years showing interactions with “unidentified aerial phenomena.”DoD/AFP via Getty Images
Seamen who have seen the unidentified objects believe they could be a secret US technology, enemy surveillance devices, or something entirely different, Graves told CBS.

“This is a difficult one to explain. You have rotation, you have high altitudes. You have propulsion, right? I don’t know. I don’t know what it is, frankly,” the lieutenant said to correspondent Bill Whitaker as he watched an unclassified video.



In the “60 Minutes” interview, Ryan Graves said he was worried about the UFOs.
“I would say, you know, the highest probability is it’s a threat observation program,” Graves said, according to the report.

A former defense official who spent years investigating unidentified aerial phenomena told the network program that the vehicles have technology vastly exceeding any human invention.
Former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves says the unidentified vessels are a security threat.

“Imagine a technology that can do 600 to 700 G-forces, that can fly 13,000 miles an hour, that, that can evade radar and can fly through air and water and possibly space, and oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth’s gravity.

“That’s precisely what we’re seeing,” Luis Elizondo said.

The technology in these UFOs are superior to current military planes, one defense official said

 

[marsh]

Sen. Marco Rubio calls on US to take UFO reports ‘seriously’

Sen. Marco Rubio said the US should take the “threat” of UFOs “seriously” in an interview aired Sunday. The Florida Republican’s comments on CBS’ “60 Minut…

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Sen. Marco Rubio calls on US to take UFO reports ‘seriously’
By Tamar Lapin
May 16, 2021 | 11:20pm | Updated


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Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) raised concerns about UFOs in an interview.REUTERS

Sen. Marco Rubio said the US should take the “threat” of UFOs “seriously” in an interview aired Sunday.

The Florida Republican’s comments on CBS’ “60 Minutes” came ahead of a government report on UFO sightings that is set to be released before the end of June.

“Anything that enters an airspace that’s not supposed to be there is a threat,” he told the program.

“I want us to take it seriously and have a process to take it seriously,” Rubio said. “I want us to have a process to analyze the data every time it comes in. That there be a place where this is cataloged and constantly analyzed, until we get some answers.”

“Maybe it has a very simple answer. Maybe it doesn’t.”

As acting Senate Intelligence Committee chair in December, Rubio has asked for an unclassified copy of the report to be presented to Congress.

But Rubio told host Bill Whitaker that there is a “stigma” among some on Capitol Hill when it comes to UFOs, also known as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

“I mean, some of my colleagues are very interested in this topic and some kinda, you know, giggle when you bring it up,” he said. “But I don’t think we can allow the stigma to keep us from having an answer to a very fundamental question. ”


A screengrab from part of an unclassified video taken by Navy pilots that has circulated for years showing interactions with “unidentified aerial phenomena.”DoD/AFP via Getty Images
Former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves told “60 Minutes” that he and other members of his squadron spotted UAPs hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach “every day for a couple of years” beginning in 2014.

Graves said that the unidentified vessels — like ones seen in a Pentagon-confirmed US Navy video near San Diego — are a security threat.

“I am worried, frankly. … if these were tactical jets from another country that were hanging out up there, it would be a massive issue,” Graves said.

“But because it looks slightly different, we’re not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. We’re happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day.”

An ex-Pentagon official who says he ran the agency’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program told the network that UAPs have technology vastly exceeding any human invention.

The controversial whistleblower, Luis “Lue” Elizondo, said that sometimes there were “simple explanations” for the sightings — and others that were “problematic.”

“Ultimately when you have exhausted all those what ifs and you’re still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it’s real, that’s when it becomes compelling, and that’s when it becomes problematic,” he said.

In an interview with The Post last month, Elizondo said he believes the feds covered up the existence of UAPs, which he described as a serious national security risk.

He welcomed the release of the government’s report on the phenomena.

“The level of interest is reaching a critical mass,” Elizondo told The Post. “I think [government officials realize that] it would be like putting the cat back in the bag or like putting toothpaste back in the tube. Now that the government has acknowledged the reality of Unexplained Aerial Phenomenon [or UAP, which is synonymous with UFO] … it’s going to be real hard to backtrack.”

 

[marsh]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtMbBPzqHY
13:47 min

Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs

•May 16, 2021


60 Minutes

Bill Whitaker reports on the regular sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, that have spurred a report due to Congress next month. "60 Minutes" is the most successful television broadcast in history. Offering hard-hitting investigative reports, interviews, feature segments and profiles of people in the news, the broadcast began in 1968 and is still a hit, over 50 seasons later, regularly making Nielsen's Top 10.

 

[marsh]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfibbq-ih8o
5:28 min

Tucker says it's time for answers
May 18, 2021



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'UFOs' author joins 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' to discuss why US may have 'covered up' UFO information

 

[marsh]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIBPegtaa3I
8:32 min
Something in the air: The increased attention to UFOs

•May 16, 2021



CBS Sunday Morning

Our fascination with aliens has also led us to speculate about unidentified flying objects – unexplained airborne phenomena – that might be of extraterrestrial origin. Correspondent David Pogue reports on how, as the scientific community continues to question the legitimacy of possible alien visitations, the government's attention toward UFOs has become more serious.

 

[marsh]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz-6jRrbtuI
2:55 min

Leaked Video Shows UFO Flying Around Navy Ship Near San Diego

•May 17, 2021


TODAY

In a new, leaked video, what appears to be a UFO flies around a Navy ship off the coast of San Diego before suddenly disappearing after flying into the water. NBC’s Gadi Schwartz reports for TODAY.

 

[marsh]

Just the News Minute: Navy sees UFOs almost daily

Rumble video 4:59 min at 1:50 min
Rumble — JTN Minute - Minority Leader McCarthy opposes Jan 6th Commission, Navy sees UFOs almost daily

 

[marsh]

Ep. 1523 Are They About To Tell Us Something Major? - The Dan Bongino Show 1:02:45 min at 4:05 min

Ep. 1523 Are They About To Tell Us Something Major? - The Dan Bongino Show
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Is this the biggest national security threat of our time? Troubling new video about UFOs surface. In this episode, I discuss the controversy, along with the brewing controversy surrounding the Secret Service. I also address the new Spygate emails.

 

[marsh]

Former Senator Harry Reid Thinks Government Has UFO ‘Fragments’ Backs Ex-Pentagon Official Who Claims Cover-Up | The Daily Wire

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Former Senator Harry Reid Thinks Government Has UFO ‘Fragments’ Backs Ex-Pentagon Official Who Claims Cover-Up

By Emily Zanotti
May 2, 2021 DailyWire.com

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Former Nevada Senator Harry Reid told The New Yorker late last week that he believes government defense contractor Lockheed Martin is in possession of “fragments” of a crashed alien spacecraft salvaged from a wreck.

Reid, who, as a Senator, led the effort to bankroll a secretive Pentagon program charged with investigating reports of “unidentified flying objects” reported by military pilots, has been a vocal proponent of opening what he believes are secretive UFO files, including information he seems to believe has been “covered up” by government officials.

In his interview with The New Yorker, Reid claimed Lockheed Martin “may have once had fragments of a crashed UFO in its possession,” according to the New York Post. Reid told the magazine that “he had never actually seen proof of the remnants — but tried, unsuccessfully, to get approval from the Pentagon to find them.”

“I was told for decades that Lockheed had some of these retrieved materials,” Reid said. “And I tried to get, as I recall, a classified approval by the Pentagon to have me go look at the stuff. They would not approve that.”

“I don’t know what all the numbers were, what kind of classification it was, but they would not give that to me,” he added.

Before leaving office, President Donald Trump signed a COVID-19 relief bill that included a provision demanding the Pentagon release a comprehensive report on its Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.

“That report must contain detailed analyses of UFO data and intelligence collected by the Office of Naval Intelligence, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force and the FBI, according to the Senate intelligence committee’s directive,” per a CNN report. “It should also describe in detail ‘an interagency process for ensuring timely data collection and centralized analysis of all unidentified aerial phenomena reporting for the Federal Government’ and designate an official responsible for that process.”

The ex-Pentagon official who claims to have been in charge of the AAIP program, Luis “Lue” Elizondo, claims that while he ran the Pentagon UFO office, he discovered evidence not just of higher-level technology, but of “bona fide” alien encounters, according to Elizondo’s own interview with the New York Post.

“It was a holy-s–t moment,” Elizondo said of discovering evidence of alien visits. “Oh, my gosh, it’s real. Well, crap, now we have to do something about it.”

Elizondo indicated to the Post that the forthcoming Pentagon report may not contain a full assessment of his findings, though he believes the truth will eventually be revealed.

“The level of interest is reaching a critical mass,” he said. “I think [government officials realize that] it would be like putting the cat back in the bag or like putting toothpaste back in the tube. Now that the government has acknowledged the reality of Unexplained Aerial Phenomenon [or UAP, which is synonymous with UFO] … it’s going to be real hard to backtrack.”

Reid said, recently, that he backs Elizondo.

“Mr. Elizondo has spent his career working tirelessly in the shadows on sensitive national security matters, including investigating UAPs as the head of AATIP,” Reid said in his own statement on the matter. “He performed these duties admirably.”

 

[marsh]

Bombshell UFO Report: U.S. Military Encounters UFOs ‘Every Day’ That Far Exceed Its Tech, Capabilities | The Daily Wire

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Bombshell UFO Report: U.S. Military Encounters UFOs ‘Every Day’ That Far Exceed Its Tech, Capabilities

By Daily Wire News
•May 17, 2021 DailyWire.com

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An explosive report featured on CBS News’s “60 Minutes” featured several former U.S. military officials who talked about what the U.S. government knows about unidentified aerial phenomena — UAP —more commonly referred to as UFOs.

The segment comes ahead of a report that the military is supposed to deliver to Congress by next month. Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said in a recent interview that the findings will shock people because “frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public.”

Newsworthy quotes from the “60 Minutes” segment:

• Lue Elizondo, former U.S. Military official that led the U.S. government’s effort to investigate UAP: “Imagine a technology that can do 600-to-700 g-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth’s gravity. That’s precisely what we’re seeing.”
• Elizondo on explanations for what people are witnessing: “In some cases there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing. But there are some that, that are not. We’re not just simply jumping to a conclusion that’s saying, ‘Oh, that’s a UAP out there.’ We’re going through our due diligence. Is it some sort of new type of cruise missile technology that China has developed? Is it some sort of high-altitude balloon that’s conducting reconnaissance? Ultimately when you have exhausted all those what ifs and you’re still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it’s real, that’s when it becomes compelling, and that’s when it becomes problematic.”
• Ryan Graves, former Navy pilot Lieutenant, on how often the U.S. Military encounters UAPs on the East Coast: “Every day. Every day for at least a couple years.”
• Graves on what he thinks the objects are: “I would say, you know, the highest probability is it’s a threat observation program.”
• Chris Mellon, served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence for Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush, and was on the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee: “… these vehicles seem to have unlimited loiter time, which we don’t have. We’re limited in terms of altitude, it’s hard to design something that functions well at ground level that can go, 60,000 or 80,000 feet and then drop down to the deck or drop to 20,000 feet. And you know, and it’s like a straight vertical line … in seconds. … Then the acceleration is beyond any, far beyond anything that we, that we’re capable of … There’s nothing we could build that would be strong enough to endure that amount of force and acceleration.”

The segment also documented a case from 2004 where two U.S. Navy pilots with the USS Nimitz carrier strike group were training about 100 miles southwest of San Diego and encountered a UAP that they claim descended 80,000 feet in a matter of only a few seconds.

The pilots said that when they got close to the object after tracking it that it disappeared because of the speed that it was able to accelerate.

60 min video 13:38 min

View: https://youtu.be/ZBtMbBPzqHY

 

[marsh]

Ex-Military Officers Sound Alarm On UFO Report: The Tech ‘Outstrips Our Arsenal By At Least 100 Years’ | The Daily Wire

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Ex-Military Officers Sound Alarm On UFO Report: The Tech ‘Outstrips Our Arsenal By At Least 100 Years’
By Daily Wire News
•May 18, 2021

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Former U.S. Military officials spoke to CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Monday following a bombshell report published by CBS News’s “60 Minutes” on Sunday night about UFOs that the military is encountering.

Both segments come ahead of a report that the Department of Defense is supposed to deliver to Congress next month. Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said in a recent interview that the findings will shock people because “frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public.”

Newsworthy quotes from the CNN segment:

• CHRIS MELLON, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR INTELLIGENCE: “…we have recurring violations of U.S. airspace by unidentified vehicles. They are very capable, in some cases, more capable than anything in our own inventory. This has been going on for years. The truth is just emerging. We’ve had a massive intelligence failure. And we now have a threat, an unknown threat that we need to figure out.”
• MELLON: “Well, we clearly are vulnerable. And this has been going on for too long. Finally, our Congress is learning of this situation. They’re beginning to react. So we’ve got a lot of catch-up here. But it is – it is very concerning. It’s not an imminent crisis or imminent threat. There’s been no hostility. But there’s a lot of activity. And it’s increasingly bold. In some instances, recently, we’ve had these things swarming around war ships off the coast of California, swarming around Strategic Missile Defense bases, in Guam, and other things. So, with all the tensions in the world, and China, and the rest, with the attack on the Saudi oil facilities, by drones, and so forth, it’s something we need to take seriously.”
• SEAN CAHILL, U.S. NAVY CHIEF MASTER-AT-ARMS (RET): “…the ‘five observables’ indicate a technology that outstrips our arsenal by at least 100 years to 1,000 years at the moment…first of all, the aircraft had zero control surfaces. It had no means of propulsion that we could detect. It moved at hypersonic velocities. And it preceded the pilots to their cap points. So, it seemed to have some knowledge of where the pilots were headed ahead of time. And we don’t possess those abilities to do that, in our arsenal at the moment.”
• CAHILL: “I think that we’re going to find that this phenomenon represents a very large spectrum of different things. At edges of that spectrum are going to be near-peer technology of our adversaries, here on Earth. At the other end of that spectrum is going to be something that we don’t yet understand, and haven’t identified yet. So, I hesitate to speculate on the source. But I can tell you that I don’t believe that this is within our arsenal of any human technology at the moment.”

TRANSCRIPT PROVIDED VIA CNN:

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: As if Congress doesn’t have enough on its plate, not that it’s doing anything with what is on its plate, they’re now looking into UFOs or at least they’re doing something, right? Next month, Congress is expecting a report, from the Director of National Intelligence, and other agencies, on UFOs or UAPs. Now, that’s the government term for them. It stands for ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.’

Why? Well, a retired U.S. Navy pilot came forward to say he and his crew witnessed an Unidentified Flying Object on the coast of the Atlantic several times. And he’s not the only one. Joining us now, someone who has personally witnessed sightings, retired Navy Chief Master-At-Arms, Sean Cahill, joined by Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Thank you both. Appreciate you for joining me.

SEAN CAHILL, U.S. NAVY CHIEF MASTER-AT-ARMS (RET): Good evening, Chris.

CHRISTOPHER MELLON, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR INTELLIGENCE: Pleasure, thank you.

CUOMO: All right, so let’s dispense with the obvious here. Chris? People are going to eye roll and say “Boy was Cuomo light on what to talk about tonight?” Why is this worth discussion?

MELLON: Because we have recurring violations of U.S. airspace by unidentified vehicles. They are very capable, in some cases, more capable than anything in our own inventory. This has been going on for years. The truth is just emerging. We’ve had a massive intelligence failure. And we now have a threat, an unknown threat that we need to figure out.

CUOMO: So Sean, it’s not that you’re worried about something out of a movie coming to get you. It’s about the threat, right here on Earth, and how it’s being motivated, without our knowledge and ability to counter.

CAHILL: That’s correct, Chris. In 2004, I was the Chief Master-at-Arms onboard the USS Princeton. And the technology that we witnessed with the “Tic Tac” was something that we would not have been able to defend our Forces against, at the time.

CUOMO: Help me understand that. As the uninitiated, what does that mean to us?

CAHILL: Well, through that – that means that what we – what we saw on the “Tic Tac,” and what Mr. Luis Elizondo describes as the “Five observables” indicate a technology that outstrips our arsenal by at least 100 years to 1,000 years at the moment.

CUOMO: A 100 years to 1,000 years? So, meaning like what kind of technology was at play that you were able to identify it, but know that you can’t match it?

CAHILL: Well, first of all, the aircraft had zero control surfaces. It had no means of propulsion that we could detect. It moved at hypersonic velocities. And it preceded the pilots to their cap points. So, it seemed to have some knowledge of where the pilots were headed ahead of time. And we don’t possess those abilities to do that, in our arsenal at the moment.

CUOMO: What does that sound like to you, Chris Mellon?

MELLON: Well, we clearly are vulnerable. And this has been going on for too long. Finally, our Congress is learning of this situation. They’re beginning to react. So we’ve got a lot of catch-up here. But it is – it is very concerning. It’s not an imminent crisis or imminent threat. There’s been no hostility. But there’s a lot of activity. And it’s increasingly bold. In some instances, recently, we’ve had these things swarming around war ships off the coast of California, swarming around Strategic Missile Defense bases, in Guam, and other things. So, with all the tensions in the world, and China, and the rest, with the attack on the Saudi oil facilities, by drones, and so forth, it’s something we need to take seriously.

CUOMO: You answered the question, partly there, but let’s fill it out a little bit. This is not new. People play with this. And they play to all kinds of conspiratorial thinking. But a lot of real Military, and policy people say, “Look, there are things out there that we got to keep track of that we can’t.”

But why now? What’s new in terms of the urgency, Chris? And I’ll ask you both about this.

MELLON: Sure, happy to address that. So what happened was a couple of years ago, Lue Elizondo, in the Pentagon, who was managing this activity, with almost no resources, he and I, and a few others, became aware that this was going on, at a very significant scale, on the East Coast, at the time, and our pilots were not getting any support.

The Intel community was not responding. Nobody was helping these guys out. And it wasn’t being reported up the chain. It wasn’t until that got into “The New York Times,” it got to the attention of Congress, that finally our leadership, in both branches of government, became aware this was going on. So, this has only just come to light.

CUOMO: Sean, what do you think is the likely universe of explanation that will come up, at the end of these reports, and addressing of this?

CAHILL: Chris, I think that we’re going to find that this phenomenon represents a very large spectrum of different things. At edges of that spectrum are going to be near-peer technology of our adversaries, here on Earth. At the other end of that spectrum is going to be something that we don’t yet understand, and haven’t identified yet. So, I hesitate to speculate on the source. But I can tell you that I don’t believe that this is within our arsenal of any human technology at the moment.

CUOMO: So, when you say that, it almost guarantees that not just your good looks, but that statement will get this picked up, and sent all over the internet, because there’ll be a legit Military person saying that “Maybe this is from outer space.” Do you want that to be [the message people receive]?

CAHILL: Well, that would be taking my words out of context. What we can say is that we don’t know what this is. And it’s here. It’s going to take all of us to figure this out together.

CUOMO: And Chris, what’s your comment on that? They’ll say, “Look at the resumes of these two guys. They’re both saying that it might be from another world.”

MELLON: There’s no scientific reason or basis to doubt that possibility. That’s a hypothesis that could explain the facts. People need to be open to that. We’re spending billions looking for extra-terrestrial civilizations. We’ve got spacecraft that have already left the solar system. It’s possible somebody found us before we found them.

CUOMO: And the age-old question that I’ve been watching in movies my entire life, “If they are smart enough to come here, and have such advanced technologies, why don’t they talk to us?”

MELLON: Well, if they’re that smart, what would they have to learn from us? When you go to the zoo, do you talk to the animals?

CUOMO: And I got to tell you, Sean, right now we’re not presenting as exactly the best kind of people to be talking. We’re eating ourselves down here right now. I could understand why they’d want to keep in arm’s reach.

MELLON: The main point, Chris, is–

CAHILL: Yes, if there is–

MELLON: –all unanswered questions.

CUOMO: Go ahead, Sean. Go ahead. Last word you.

CAHILL: I was just going to say if they are as smart as we think they are, then I think we’re kind of silly, thinking that we can guess their motives.

CUOMO: Look, and for me, look, there is no “them.” I am a “facts first” kind of guy on this. I am open to everything, because there’s so much I’ve learned in life that I would never have imagined. But I do know this. I worry about the safety of men and women like you, Sean, and Chris, the people who wind up having to cross the policy line to get into practice. I worry that you’re safe. I worry that people aren’t beating us at our own game, and that we have to learn through spending blood and treasure that was unnecessary. So, any exploration, any research, any report, any hearing that helps us understand how to keep our fighting men and women safe is the only way to honor your sacrifice. So, thank you for your commitment. Thank you for having the conversation. Chris, Sean, as you learn things, or that you learn that you don’t like that it’s not being looked at the way it was supposed to, let me know. You’ve got a friend at this platform.

 

[glennb6]

demons and lizard people and aliens and OMG the .mil says UFOs can out-gun them...

would be foolish to completely discredit the possibilities of alien ufos, ya know because it's a big universe. however I've never seen one. and naturally the .mil looks at supposed ufos as armed enemies - hammers and nails thinking at it's best. If anything could with a slim possibility be true it would be that these ufos are secret govt project flying thingies and everything else is a cover story.

But I find it rather BS that the best pics of ufos look like grainy arcade game images. That's the best the .mil can come up with to show?
And never mind the military crap pics and vids. There have to be 100 to 1 the number of commercial aircraft and private aircraft flying around for every one military aircraft. So where are the pictures and vids? I would think that if Mabel and Fred are on a 757 headed to Hawaii and they see a ufo thingie out the window that the first thing they'd do is get pics/vids and yell at everyone else on the flight to do the same. Never seen anything like that. Same for private aircraft. It's just impractical to think that there is no photo and vid evidence other than pong and packman from .mil

 

[Bps1691]

Now I get what you mean. No, the Bible does not say they specifically exist or not exist. Which would actually be another argument against aliens.

In my opinion, when people say we can't be alone in the universe, I say, why not?

Who's to say Our God created the entire universe with ALL of the multiple solar systems dancing around and around, ebbing and flowing in the cosmos just to support one, single, blue planet's dome in order to protect the humans He created in His image? Remember, we're talking about a God who is so immense, loving and big, He counts our hairs. I don't know about you but counting hairs would not be a thing I would think of and do but then I'm not God. He is certainly mysterious and when I pass through my time here on this blue planet and go to my true home, all the questions I have, will be answered.

Until then, I'm staying clear of the aliens and will be more watchful of the Pentagon's next move concerning them.

There is a school of thought that the UFO/Aliens are satanic demons who have pestered man kind from the beginning.

 

[Red Sky]

Well not really because it does not really mention them in an exact fashion . These are interpretations , which may or may not be right.

My question was, is there ANY mention that they do not exist?

I guess I do not understand your question. But do those scripture examples I gave sound like human beings to you? If not, they are something else. That in itself shows there is something out there strange that does exist according to the Bible. If you don’t want to believe the Bible, then I cannot prove something to you that you don’t want to believe. The Bible says that demons exist, fallen angels exist, and conspiracies exist. What more do you need?

 

[Housecarl]

My concern is that this sudden "admission" from the Pentagon is combined with the well-published "disclosure" coming largely from a "former" CIA Agent.

Starting with, as one Company Man told me, "there are no former CIA agents, only unofficial ones" and ending with "why is the Pentagon now doing a 180-degree turn on this" well, color me skeptical about some of this.

This is not to mean I think that UFOs are not real, I've actually seen one so I know that they do in fact exist, but as to what they are exactly I'm not sure and they may very well be more than one thing.

They may also however be "useful" for certain narratives, and if in June when the report to Congress is supposed to come out (all or in part) I will really be suspicious if suddenly UFO's are the "next" scary threat we all have to build our lives around avoiding.

I can't help but compare this to the "handling" by TPTB of the "Phoenix Lights" events back in 1997.

 

[Henry Bowman]

I guess I do not understand your question. But do those scripture examples I gave sound like human beings to you? If not, they are something else. That in itself shows there is something out there strange that does exist according to the Bible. If you don’t want to believe the Bible, then I cannot prove something to you that you don’t want to believe. The Bible says that demons exist, fallen angels exist, and conspiracies exist. What more do you need?

The question is clear enough. Is there any mention that there is NO life elsewhere in the vastness of the Universe.

Nothing is ever stated that earth is the only place where there is life, not does it mention any other possible form of life.

In other words, if the writers wanted to make sure that it covered everything , other lifeforms ( other that what some believe to be demons, etc...and I am not saying they do not exist ) should be spoken of. It's a pretty important point to make if you want to make sure people understand IMHO.

 

[Housecarl]

I have to also wonder what this may be intended to distract the public from.....

 

[Henry Bowman]

I have to also wonder what this may be intended to distract the public from.....

I was thinking the same thing, why admit it NOW ? But who knows what they have up their sleeve.

 

[colonel holman]

Sen. Marco Rubio calls on US to take UFO reports ‘seriously’

Sen. Marco Rubio said the US should take the “threat” of UFOs “seriously” in an interview aired Sunday. The Florida Republican’s comments on CBS’ “60 Minut…

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Sen. Marco Rubio said the US should take the “threat” of UFOs “seriously” in an interview aired Sunday.

The Florida Republican’s comments on CBS’ “60 Minutes” came ahead of a government report on UFO sightings that is set to be released before the end of June.

“Anything that enters an airspace that’s not supposed to be there is a threat,” he told the program.

“I want us to take it seriously and have a process to take it seriously,” Rubio said. “I want us to have a process to analyze the data every time it comes in. That there be a place where this is cataloged and constantly analyzed, until we get some answers.”

“Maybe it has a very simple answer. Maybe it doesn’t.”

As acting Senate Intelligence Committee chair in December, Rubio has asked for an unclassified copy of the report to be presented to Congress.

But Rubio told host Bill Whitaker that there is a “stigma” among some on Capitol Hill when it comes to UFOs, also known as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

“I mean, some of my colleagues are very interested in this topic and some kinda, you know, giggle when you bring it up,” he said. “But I don’t think we can allow the stigma to keep us from having an answer to a very fundamental question. ”
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A screengrab from part of an unclassified video taken by Navy pilots that has circulated for years showing interactions with “unidentified aerial phenomena.”DoD/AFP via Getty Images
Former Navy Lt. Ryan Graves told “60 Minutes” that he and other members of his squadron spotted UAPs hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach “every day for a couple of years” beginning in 2014.

Graves said that the unidentified vessels — like ones seen in a Pentagon-confirmed US Navy video near San Diego — are a security threat.

“I am worried, frankly. … if these were tactical jets from another country that were hanging out up there, it would be a massive issue,” Graves said.

“But because it looks slightly different, we’re not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. We’re happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day.”

An ex-Pentagon official who says he ran the agency’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program told the network that UAPs have technology vastly exceeding any human invention.

The controversial whistleblower, Luis “Lue” Elizondo, said that sometimes there were “simple explanations” for the sightings — and others that were “problematic.”

“Ultimately when you have exhausted all those what ifs and you’re still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it’s real, that’s when it becomes compelling, and that’s when it becomes problematic,” he said.

In an interview with The Post last month, Elizondo said he believes the feds covered up the existence of UAPs, which he described as a serious national security risk.

He welcomed the release of the government’s report on the phenomena.

“The level of interest is reaching a critical mass,” Elizondo told The Post. “I think [government officials realize that] it would be like putting the cat back in the bag or like putting toothpaste back in the tube. Now that the government has acknowledged the reality of Unexplained Aerial Phenomenon [or UAP, which is synonymous with UFO] … it’s going to be real hard to backtrack.”

Consider this: Picture the Carib’s and related Indians of the Caribbean in 1492 when they encountered Columbus and his world arriving in the “new world”. Those natives had absolutely no clue who or even what these arrivals were. But that marked TEOTWAWKI for them. Now picture “us, today’s society” suddenly finding ourselves at a very similar moment in time.

 

[Housecarl]

Evolving into something different is almost certain. I've always held that biological intelligence it transitory. It's limited, too slow, and too disorganized as individuals. Evolving into a singular super-intelligence is inevitable and I suspect that's what every intelligent species transitions into if they survive. The notion of ETs being millions of years ahead of us and still corporeal is nonsense. WE will be interstellar in another 1000 ( 5000 tops ) years, and I doubt that's all the farther we or any other species would advance. Whatever we/they become in a million years we couldn't even comprehend, much less recognize, and I doubt it will spend any time flitting around the stars observing the ants. Thus, any "visitors" we have are likely less than 50,000 years ahead of us, unless they're incredibly unimaginative and stuck in some sort of evolutional stagnation, or they're constantly suffering setbacks from wars.

ETA: It could be that Fermi's paradox has an explanation: By the time any civilization gets to the stars, their advancement is accelerating so fast that they don't really spend much time doing it, relatively speaking.

Issac Arthur on his youtube channel explores this sort of subject matter a lot.

 

[Terriannie]

I have to also wonder what this may be intended to distract the public from.....

My thoughts exactly. What is the intention?

UFOs are the top woo subject anyone (except the government) can join in and either share or dismiss.

After decades of silence and being silenced, we got nothing from the gov. except now with it's public confession to THE top conspiracy subject of all recent modern times???

Whatever the distraction will be to cause the military to swallow an enormous amount of pride, it has to be bigger than UFOs and for the life of me, I can't think of what it could be.

Maybe we could put out some possibilities?

Mine would be proof positive video and documented evidence of some tippy-top politician or politicians involved in child sex crimes. ( Nah. Even a UFO landing on the white house lawn wouldn't distract me from that. )

 

[Housecarl]

My thoughts exactly. What is the intention?

UFOs are the top woo subject anyone (except the government) can join in and either share or dismiss.

After decades of silence and being silenced, we got nothing from the gov. except now with it's public confession to THE top conspiracy subject of all recent modern times???

Whatever the distraction will be to cause the military to swallow an enormous amount of pride, it has to be bigger than UFOs and for the life of me, I can't think of what it could be.

Maybe we could put out some possibilities?

Mine would be proof positive video and documented evidence of some tippy-top politician or politicians involved in child sex crimes. ( Nah. Even a UFO landing on the white house lawn wouldn't distract me from that. )

Yeah, the next one on that list is the JFK/RFK Assassinations, but those are too close to TPTB even now.

Heck recall the TV series The Lazarus Man turned out to be all about a cover-up of Lincoln's assassination and it never ends up in the rerun mix?.....

 

[TorahTips]

The reason that the gov is about to disclose is because the nephalim are about to manifest. Then everything will change. We are about to enter a dark place in history.

 

[Troke]

Is the US Navy the only entity in the world that sees UFO's every day? Nobody else has a clue?

Anybody know?

 

[marsh]

The report ordered by Rubio's committee comes out in June. Allso, didn't Trump declassify the UFO info also for that time period?

Clif High anticipates quite a bit of public discussion about the info [and technology] in the forthcoming months. As others have said, perhaps it is not a distraction as much as a preparation for what might be revealed.

 

[Red Sky]

The question is clear enough. Is there any mention that there is NO life elsewhere in the vastness of the Universe.

Nothing is ever stated that earth is the only place where there is life, not does it mention any other possible form of life.

In other words, if the writers wanted to make sure that it covered everything , other lifeforms ( other that what some believe to be demons, etc...and I am not saying they do not exist ) should be spoken of. It's a pretty important point to make if you want to make sure people understand IMHO.

If it is not mentioned as you stated, it is not important to the Writer for us to know. Since it is stated as I mentioned, then it is important to the Writer for us to know because He included it so we would know that there is other life in the universe. It is just not the life that man wants to accept.